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January 12, 2003 08:00 pm ET - research by Taera
Player Spotlight: DreamCatcher

I remember when I first met DreamCatcher. It was perhaps mid-October when I was hunting me some ghoul teeth and FCA delivered another wonderful present to my doorstep. After Yeildarb had killed me, and I had killed him, I called in some elfy backup from Deeqs.

One of the elves that Deeqs brought was DreamCatcher. Dreamy was a big help, though sadly he could not save me from a second death at the hands of three more FCA. Ah, memories.

But we arent here to talk about my constant dying to FCA and DreamCatchers help. No, we are here to talk about DreamCatcher himself!

Dream is a level 48 Earth Elf. He has 18 dexterity and obviously usually uses a bow. But after a year of arrow shooting DreamCatcher finally has a reason to switch over to a sword.

What could possibly make an elf want to switch over to a sword? Well, his unsealed Ancient Sword might have something to do with it. With 35/20 damage usable by knights elves or princes his friend Deeqssss(Con elf) beat a level fifty knighttwice! When they tried it out on my elf, level 43 with 49 AC, ten hits did 300 damage. Thats 30 damage a hit on average!

Not just the sword is special to Dream; the story of how he got it is pretty spectacular as well. Me and some ElvenKings and ElvenGuards were hunting, He told me excitedly. [There were] Three of us. Anyway, we hunted about 15-20 minutes then I got off to go to work. I didnt even know I had the sword till after the hunt, and you know how hard it is for elves to get drops! I must admit, that is a rather nice surprise to come home to!

The sword has very odd damage, which might be a plus or a minus for Dream. His knightly friend did over 54 damage in one hit once while sometimes the sword does no damage at all! With a sword like that though you can expect to see DreamCatcher leveling up a new strength knight!

Dream would like to thank AngelsFire, Poison420, SmokeTree, BusyB, Sivitri, Dizoz, Deeqs and all of his pledge, ElvenKings and ElvenGuard.

Hard work really does pay off!

January 12, 2003 08:11 pm ET (#2)
Loyal Fan

444 posts

it rolls 1-35
thats y it has disadvantages over a +9tsu...which would roll more constant high dmg
anyways thats damn cool
no will sell me an unseal scroll for ill stick with my 3/2 dmg :P

January 12, 2003 08:25 pm ET (#3)
Loyal Fan

36 posts

my +10 xbow owns it

January 12, 2003 08:47 pm ET (#4)
Loyal Fan

47 posts

calix : magnuz : newb : embargos friend

January 12, 2003 08:56 pm ET (#5)
Loyal Fan

146 posts

+9bowgun owns +10xbot

January 12, 2003 09:02 pm ET (#6)
Loyal Fan

185 posts

wonder how many ppl have +9 bowgun ... ohh the sword owns..q.q

January 12, 2003 09:25 pm ET (#7)
Loyal Fan

200 posts

Ya it rolls 1-35 damage but do u notice its +0? -.-

January 12, 2003 09:30 pm ET (#8)
Loyal Fan

18 posts

Calix is a n00b, well that sword rox!!!!! So Lucky man!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!

-Keato [Retired] (DEP)
-Darkwizord [Retired] (DEP)
-AngelOfChaos (LOA)

*Forever Will FirstLove Reign Supreme ForEver*

January 12, 2003 09:33 pm ET (#9)
Loyal Fan

4 posts

This is AnGeLsFiRe! Way to go Dream!! You are the man! I am so proud to say that I have you as back up. The sword rulez but also the elf who holds it!

January 12, 2003 09:36 pm ET (#10)
Loyal Fan

4 posts

Dream here! I have to tell ya'll that the sword is phanomenial-I have already beaten 5 knights and it is one of the best swords I have seen in the game. I will eventually have a strenght knight. Thanks for the great interview~


January 12, 2003 09:55 pm ET (#11)
Loyal Fan

8 posts

hmm.. to bad deeqs with this uber sword still didnt beat a certain elf.. o well.. i guess his death will have to go unanswered ^^

January 12, 2003 09:56 pm ET (#12)
Loyal Fan

54 posts

Lol calix i doubt you have more than a +6elven bow :(

January 12, 2003 09:57 pm ET (#13)
Loyal Fan

23 posts

CONGRATS Dreamcatcher! Excellent drop^^! Hope you have some fun with that new toy! (Get a STR Knight Fast!!!)

January 12, 2003 10:00 pm ET (#14)
Loyal Fan

69 posts

Be a con knight with that sword o.o

January 12, 2003 10:37 pm ET (#15)
Loyal Fan

925 posts

the damage may be random

but still a good weapon


January 12, 2003 10:44 pm ET (#16)
Loyal Fan

163 posts

ok let me use my amazing brain to show you guys why its better than +9tsu

tsu = 16/10 dmg
averaged out 8/5 + 9 = 17/14 average hit

ancient sword = 35/20
averaged out 17.5/10 average hit

now whats better? 17/14 with tons of ndais? or 17.5/10 with no ndais! and for other classes as well!

January 12, 2003 10:47 pm ET (#17)
Loyal Fan

8 posts

bleh.. unless you get ur own unseal scroll, its a pain to have to buy it.. for 20 mil..

but yea.. ancient sword is undoubtably the best overall sword O.o;; but it looks sort of ugly.. sort of like elven con helm O.o i rather die than be caught wearing that travesty of a helmet..

January 13, 2003 12:32 am ET (#18)
Loyal Fan

925 posts

sword ain't that bad looking

works like this

+9 tsu

so 10-25/10-19

ancient sword

10-25/10-19 vs 1-35/1-20

I would personally choose +9 tsu for the constant damage
sure the ancient sword may sometime hit 10 more sword damage on your opponent
but not all the time and u may hit 1 damage sometimes
as well as
if u're fighting someone 1v1, could mean life or death for yourself
constant damage assures u certain damage per hit
reason it is better

but ancient sword is definitely the best sword for an elf or prince

January 13, 2003 01:04 am ET (#19)
Loyal Fan

6 posts

can that sword not be +'ed ?

January 13, 2003 01:19 am ET (#20)
Loyal Fan

33 posts

no it cant -_-;
else it would rule more o.o;

January 13, 2003 01:30 am ET (#21)
Loyal Fan

36 posts

Strength increases the likelyhood of the wielder rolling higher damage. Which is why he is making a Str knight and not a Con knight. with str spell, pgs, and knight he will roll roughly 30-35 a swing without damage additions and such added on due to lvl. Its quite possible he could hit for 50+ every 10 hits or so, and roll around 30-40 on average.

January 13, 2003 01:52 am ET (#22)
Loyal Fan

925 posts

if ancient sword could be daied
it would be the best sword ever

the str has a big affect on increasing the amount of damage u do on someone
your str + sword damage
as well as +1 damage added every 10 lvls for a knight and elf

it is quite possible
it may be possible to hit 1 sword damage with the ancient sword 10 hits as well

still an awesome weapon
I wouldn't mind having that on my elf and beating the crap out of knights hehe

January 13, 2003 02:05 am ET (#23)
Loyal Fan

11 posts

kzsm your wrong. i was using my amazing math skillz first you average out damage~ which means taking the max amount of damage possible then using half of that. Then you add the damage bonus, NOT BEFORE.

Not to mention ancient sword has +5 hit rather than +2 hit

So ancient sword is the best sword hands down. Your math is flawed. Yes you will get constant damage with tsu around 8+9 WHICH = 17, But the average damage you will get with ancient sword is 17.5!

sure you will hit for maybe 1 dmg sometimes, but it will make up for it when it hits for 54 damage or more.

Yes it does mean life or death, but death will more often occur when your facing a person with ancient sword rather than with tsu. Because they might get lucky and get 3 60dmg hits ^^ or something. But tsu will never get that high.

January 13, 2003 02:33 am ET (#24)
Loyal Fan

1 posts

Most of you guys are wrong... this sword has been tested extensively in korean test server as well as us test server. Though i have wasnt there at korean test server when my friend was testing he told me the results were as follows:

9tsu lvl 48str -60ac vs Ancient Sword lvl 48str -60ac
1st winner : 9tsu hp left 140
2nd winner : 9tsu hp left 131
3rd winner : 9tsu hp left 50
4th winner : AS hp left 100
5th winner : 9tsu hp left 30

both of these str knight had hp the same as well as same enhants and everything else. hp diff was 3hp

then later test was with 8tsu
1st winner: AS hp left 89
2nd winner: AS hp left 39
3rd winner: 8tsu hp left 45
4th winner: 8tsu hp left 72
5th winner: 8tsu hp left 54

A knight lvl 49 with -80ac took 10 hits from the sword
Knight using AS was str knight 20 str with pg and str spell

1st hit 28dmg
2 miss
2nd hit 23
3rd hit 16
4th hit 32
5th hit 3
6th hit 25
7th hit 16
8th hit 4
9th hit 19
10th hit 21

This sword misses way more than 9tsu

9tsu results on average were much better and didnt miss as many times..

8tsu i would say compares to it but stillf or kngihts 8tsu is better than AS unless u get super lucky in whcih case manage to pull of some high roles

I did a little testing in us test server with a good friend and found that this was infact true for knights this sword is not worth unsealing. It miss more than 8tsu and the hits are way to random. Even though the hits are random the missing is really bad with ppl with 7x ac
This sword is only good for elfs/prince is best sword for their class

January 13, 2003 05:33 am ET (#25)
Loyal Fan

127 posts

omg... the fanatics... good thing theyre here tho!
whats an unsealed as worth anyway?

January 13, 2003 06:48 am ET (#26)
Loyal Fan

337 posts

so, its good, or its bad? lol

January 13, 2003 08:54 am ET (#27)
LC Reporter

333 posts

#2- in the classic RP style, which I am not sure if lineage follows or not (ask yammie or amer, they know everything @.@) damage is on a roll. The +s act as a modifier, so if you rolled 1 and had a +7 enchant you would do 8 damage.
#7- did you notice that all forgotten island items except for the bowgun cannot be enchanted?
#21- str is a modifier, I believe it does + the roll depending on your str.
#25- alot!
#26- consider the fact that, though this sword might not roll as good as the tsu, an elf or PRINCE can use it. Imagine marak with one of these :)

January 13, 2003 01:15 pm ET (#28)
Loyal Fan

144 posts

Lol tearas right imagine Marak.... o.o hel be leading his armys into battle and ppl will venz from him and not his members hahahaha.
damm thats a nice drop... i never get anything from Fi
my friend ask me to go i said no i had things to do.
i see him day after he got apm-- then went again at night got unseal scroll!!!!! can u imagine the luck!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!?!?!?!? i mean... OMG!!!!!
-- i hate him so bad

January 13, 2003 01:18 pm ET (#29)
Loyal Fan

63 posts

+9 tsu = +2 to hit and +4 to hit (from dais) so +6 to hit :)

Congrats dream, nice weapon :)

(and Firmus has [had] the only +9bowgun, so far)

January 13, 2003 04:39 pm ET (#30)
Loyal Fan

1155 posts

+9 Tsu better than Ancient Sword in duel... but Ancient Sword powerful and used by Prince, Knight, Elf o.o!!!! Thats a very good advantage

January 13, 2003 07:03 pm ET (#31)
Loyal Fan

127 posts

im jelous

January 13, 2003 07:40 pm ET (#32)
Loyal Fan

51 posts

wasabi2003 shut up u made that up -.-

January 13, 2003 08:12 pm ET (#33)
Loyal Fan

925 posts

u don't average the damage rate
it wouldn't be accurate
the damage is rolled
imagine hitting max 35 sword damage 10 times in a row, sure, u would own whoever u're fighting
but what if u hit 1 sword damage 10 times in a row? u'll be losing your battle
the +9 tsu has a fixed 10 sword damage base when u hit, it won't go lower than that

u can look at it this way:

Ancient Sword
1-35, 35 different rolls
about 25.7% chance of doing 1-9 sword damage
about 28.6% chance of doing 26-35 sword damage
about 41.6% chance of doing 10-25 sword damage
each roll has about 2.86% chance of occurring in other words

+9 TSU
10-25, 16 different rolls
100% chance of doing 10-25 damage
31.25% chance of doing 21-25 damage
each roll has about 6.25% chance of occurring

constant damage is better than random damage
the odds r better for a constant damaging weapon than random damage

if u're an elf or prince
well, they can't equip a tsu
so ancient sword will be the ultimate weapon
if u're a knight
+9 tsu would be the best choice
u wouldn't want to take chances doing random damage
sure 28.7% chance of doing that big amount of damage which is better than +9 tsu
but also got 25.7% chance of doing terrible damage which is worse than +9 tsu

ancient sword has +5 hit
+9 Tsu has +6 hit

what really makes this sword great, it is for 3 classes and not only knight
so if u're able to obtain this weapon
go for it....^_^

January 13, 2003 08:23 pm ET (#34)
Loyal Fan

84 posts

did he blow it up? o.o

January 13, 2003 09:10 pm ET (#35)
Loyal Fan

4 posts

January 13, 2003 09:13 pm ET (#36)
Loyal Fan

4 posts

hheheh, yes nice dream , though i still beat u with my +7 bowgun , :) though u have beat me to :( good wep , very good ,

i still want firmus's +9

January 14, 2003 01:07 am ET (#37)
Loyal Fan

163 posts

well~ this im not gonna write any more after this~ but all my posts are based on logic from what I read on these sites and based on their stats. The fact that in duels 1 knight wins the other is stricty luck, but if you were a math wiz like me, you would use numbers instead of tests.

Kzsm U DO AVERAGE IT OUT!!!!!!!! cause thats what the laws of probability are for.

PS: SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehe

AS RULEZ +) from a math point of view

AND WASABI SUCK ON IT! i dont believe what you said... tsu missed less than AS??? how the hell is that possible... tsu = +2 hit, AS = +5 hit

I think these people just own a couple tsu's and don't want it to lose value.
I play mage so I don't care either way.

January 14, 2003 03:12 am ET (#38)
Loyal Fan

23 posts

Jeez what happened to this thread? Congrats to DreamCatcher on a nice character and sword. Good Luck on the road to fifty or whatever goal you may have for yourself.

PS +9 tsu=60+million vs Ancient Sword=15million How is that even a reasonable comparison?

January 14, 2003 03:40 am ET (#39)
Loyal Fan

30 posts

grats dream ^^

how is ancient sword 15m O.o?

January 14, 2003 03:43 am ET (#40)
Loyal Fan

925 posts

the weapons when it comes to price
that is a whole different story

ummm....I don't own a
and +9 tsu is +6 hit
compared to AS which is +5 hit
+1 hit does make a difference
so I wouldn't be surprised
reason ppl compare the AS = +8 tsu

if u want real proof
go have two equal lvl/AC/HP/stat knights
and let them duel it out
testing the actual weapons will get u results
not basing it all on numbers

that will determine who the real winner is
have u done those tests?
I haven't
I don't think u have either
so I won't say anymore

January 14, 2003 07:21 am ET (#41)
Loyal Fan

63 posts

Ill say again #37.. +9tsu = +6 to hit not +2

January 14, 2003 09:43 am ET (#42)
Loyal Fan

106 posts

Grats Dreamcatcher, very nice :)


January 14, 2003 11:27 am ET (#43)
LC Reporter

333 posts

guys, the math really isn't that hard. Ancient sword is 1D35 or dice with thirty five/twenty sides. +9 tsurugi is 1D16+9 or dice with sixteen/ten sides plus an extra 9 damage. Now, if tsu was knight/prince/elf I would laugh in the face of ancient sword. But, as I believe knights are the "stupid people"/"lazy people" class I am all for the ancient sword.
Dont get me wrong, knight players, nothing wrong with you. Just that knight is the easiest character to play/level to 50 :) elf is getting close these days; hence the reason that I really cheer for a prince sword thats good and the new prince quest. As for mages, I pity you :( even I gave up on my mage.

January 14, 2003 12:03 pm ET (#44)
Loyal Fan

21 posts

Great blade Dream!! You're a great guy and I'm glad you got this drop :) Couldnt have happened to a nicer guy ^_^

January 14, 2003 06:33 pm ET (#45)
Loyal Fan

10 posts

AS!!!!!!!!!!! I want one for my Str elf! QQ

January 15, 2003 03:07 am ET (#46)
Loyal Fan

82 posts

ctrl + c
ctrl + v

AS!!!!!!!!!!! I want one for my Str elf! QQ


January 15, 2003 12:27 pm ET (#47)
Loyal Fan

444 posts

ill laugh at u when it takes 3 hits to kill a goblin

January 15, 2003 02:58 pm ET (#48)
Loyal Fan

19 posts

Doh! You have a spotlight!
Damn, you have to love Dream! He is such great guy and deserve the sword. Hope you are having fun using it. Keep on, thought you would have level 50 by now. Seems family life is keeping you busy now :). Go on, I cross the fingers that you get elf teleport soon.

January 15, 2003 03:58 pm ET (#49)
Loyal Fan

19 posts

Does anyone have a clue what drops AS i ask ppl on test but those babos never answer any questions there -_-;;

January 15, 2003 10:11 pm ET (#50)
Loyal Fan

722 posts

evil math whoi needs it lol j/k good job dream hope u have fun with it ^.^

January 16, 2003 11:37 pm ET (#51)
Loyal Fan

641 posts

the main point is....
for elves/prince(ss) this is the ultimate sword...

where as knights have the easy way out that can choose between the
or the ancient sword -_-

so stop saying it's a junk sword...
for u freaking knights with all those pro-knight updates going on for so long
leave more for the prince(ss) and elves to use --"

it hurts by the 250hp dmg or so on my elf in 10 successful hits -_-" elf's ac is around 4x...

January 26, 2003 01:23 pm ET (#52)
Loyal Fan

20 posts

in giran siege i go fight Dreamcatcher to test his sword damage....
it just like +7tsu weak
lucky i no buy it .....that sword suck....
i use +9tsu on him,,, i see him pumping clears non stop....
i eat orange o.o
that's the difference...

January 27, 2003 07:21 pm ET (#53)
Loyal Fan

4 posts

this is for 101.........

for 1. u have never fought me witht this sword 101! and for 2. u couldnt buy it if u had all of first love helping u! so plz stop speading lies and making urself look good! cuz u suck!

January 29, 2003 05:22 am ET (#54)
Loyal Fan

20 posts

this is for babo Dreamcatcher........

for 1. he thought that with that babo sword he is so powerful and fight us at the giran siege with sword not bow, but it is just like a kid's damage.

for 2. after a careful determination and friend's suggestion, with all
the experience in korean server, i wont buy this babo fi sword even i have money, and firstlove never give me money or help me buy items, i just bought a
+9 TSu from Firstboy in Dep for 55m low price without any helps.
PS: i am not just a babo noob elf like you cause have damn luck in Fi to get a item and dream to sell people 50m +.....LOL....and i want to tell you that you are so suck.....
Just a level 48 babo Earth Elf enough to appear in LC spotlight? your name said.....always day Dream in Class and catch by your Teacher.....

January 31, 2003 07:55 am ET (#55)
Loyal Fan

152 posts

AS is not that expensive -o-

February 02, 2003 05:53 am ET (#56)
Loyal Fan

45 posts

actually FL is really rich Dream lol.... ccgirl can prob buy alone if she "really" wanted too

February 03, 2003 04:50 pm ET (#57)
Loyal Fan

65 posts

you wonder why you won 1o1? cause elf have SOFT ac

February 03, 2003 11:23 pm ET (#58)
Loyal Fan

1 posts

101 this is for YOU! You are obvioulsy not as tough as everyone thinks you are. This is becuase you obvioulsy LIE about how tough, or rich you are. Dream
asked, Dream DEMANDED that you duel him during the DK event, and you said no. In fact, you were such a good sport about it, that you brought your mage and
canceled him, then came back on 101 and said "oops". This not only makes you a coward, but makes you weak in my eyes.

What dream ment by, you couldnt buy that sword with ALL of FL's help, is that
his is the only one known to be on this server. Granted there may be another, but not that we know of. And if you think, for one second, that Dream would EVER sell you that sword, your crazy. Not all the adena in aden would make him want you to own that sword. Your a lier, your a fraud, and you cant even put one sentence of english together without making the world laugh at your
ignorance. This is my first post on LC, cause your the first person that i ever
saw post, that made me laugh uncontrollably. Thank you for being the reason we all look in the mirror, and am happy with what we see. Thank you very much=)

PS. My knight delt 54 damage with that sword, have you ever dont that? I think not =)


February 03, 2003 11:35 pm ET (#59)
Loyal Fan

4 posts

ahhh sooooooooooo true "1o1" ran like a girl when i asked him to duel me!. why he has to come here and lie to make himself look better is beyond me... but he will soon see whats better! and btw "1o1" this fire elf will beat u in any duel anytime anywhere! i just doubt u have the balls to accept! you see when u get cancelled and cant hang with no braves and im waffered and killing u! thats why 1o1 runs like girl!

February 04, 2003 10:59 am ET (#60)
Loyal Fan

18 posts

what was that? is 1o1 trying to laugh at dreamcather? or is he trying to humiliate himself? seriously, i dont get him, can anybody tell me?

February 04, 2003 10:00 pm ET (#61)
Loyal Fan

3 posts

̶ ϰ Ѥ..

February 10, 2003 05:42 am ET (#62)
Loyal Fan

163 posts

hey dream~ i beat you in duel~

remember at mother tree? about 2 days ago~ we dueled ~ u cancelled me in duel~ I kept hitting you, you cancel again~ blah blah ~ you started pumping clears.
So I think I won that duel, am I wrong?


If I am wrong~ we can duel again... this time no pumping clears in duel :P

February 11, 2003 07:11 pm ET (#63)
Loyal Fan

29 posts

congrats Dream, nice sward

February 12, 2003 06:48 pm ET (#64)
Loyal Fan

63 posts

Contraversy Contraversy Contraversy o.o what is wrong with this world.....

Nice Sword Dream ^^ go and beat some more knights now o.o hehe

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