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June 11, 2002 07:05 am ET - research by amer
Episode 11 New Items
Looks like Lineage Playforum (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=1890) got the details on all the new items. More information to come when amateras wakes up :)
ARMOR
Boots/Gloves
NameACweightDetails
Stone Gloves -250Reduces weight by 10%
Leather Gloves 050
Crystal Gloves -320Knights only
Yeti Gloves 020+1 hit bonus
Fate Boots 010Prince, Elf, Knight only. Hastes wearer.
Cursed Boots -230As you become more chaotic, your STR increases.
Underwater Boots -215Allows you to breath underwater.
Demon Set
Demon Gloves -215Set Bonus: -2 AC. When you wear this set, you are morphed into demon (without scrolls). If you remove any part of the set, you unmorph.
Demon Armor -6250
Demon Boots -315
Demon Helm -250
Death Knight Set
Death Knight Gloves -215Set Bonus: -4 AC. When you equip the set, you automatically morph into Death Knight. If you remove any piece of the set, you are back to normal.
Death Knight Armor -7250
Death Knight Boots -315
Death Knight Helm -350
Amulets
Pearl Amulet 05Provides elemental resistances.
Emerald Amulet 05
Ruby Amulet 05
Amethyst Amulet 05
Diamond Amulet 05
ARMOR
Belts
NameACweightDetails
Belt of Troll 05Elf, Knight, Prince only. Increases carrying capacity by 10%.
Belt of Ogre 05Increases carrying capacity by 20%.
Belt of Titan 05Increases carrying capacity by 50%, but you are always slowed.

WEAPONS
Namedamage hands range weight Details
Sayha's Bow 4/4 2 30 Elves only. When arrows are not available, this bow collects the energy of the wind and fires magical arrows.

June 11, 2002 06:12 am ET (#1)
PeNTeL
Loyal Fan

299 posts
12-11-01

keke first post o.O im boredddddddddd T_T no one cares o.o

June 11, 2002 06:12 am ET (#2)
Tairal
Loyal Fan

50 posts
05-14-02

cool

June 11, 2002 07:07 am ET (#3)
lechtung
Loyal Fan

19 posts
01-11-02

Some special action for cursed or underwater boots?

June 11, 2002 07:11 am ET (#4)
Nitrogun
Loyal Fan

229 posts
03-17-02

I hope i will get all this items the day they come on the servers so i'll be rich then ^^

June 11, 2002 07:23 am ET (#5)
ElfBlue
Loyal Fan

21 posts
12-11-01

What?! Crystal gloves for knight only again!
It's not fair why the Fate boots for Knight, Elf and Prince only! It haste the wearer too! That's sux

June 11, 2002 07:35 am ET (#6)
Dit
Loyal Fan

3 posts
05-30-02

... ogre belt looks like it belongs to batman..maybe the ogre beat him up and stole it?? o.0

June 11, 2002 07:54 am ET (#7)
OLDMAN
Loyal Fan

100 posts
04-04-02

Titan belt will kick some butt. Seriously. More pots :D

June 11, 2002 08:26 am ET (#8)
JestRique
Loyal Fan

134 posts
05-09-02

stupid things... NO FAIR!!

y never any mage only items huh!!

and dont go say that spells or anything like that... those arent items

y cant we wear anything good >.<

dont say anything like mage set... mage set is all we got!! Q.Q

we want something!! B(

June 11, 2002 08:33 am ET (#9)
Kandy
Loyal Fan

90 posts
10-20-01

Who can wear the Demon and DK set?

June 11, 2002 08:33 am ET (#10)
Lostheaven
Loyal Fan

185 posts
10-06-01

JestRique want me to superglue PM on you? Mages are not tanks , they are range and spellcasters. How much you want to bet , Sayha's Bow will cast that Wind Cutter spell when out of arrows and will be much weaker than silver arrows.
I don't see much I want, I would be happy with a pledgemate getting those items.

June 11, 2002 09:05 am ET (#11)
vL
Loyal Fan

23 posts
05-06-02

damn fate boots r nice

June 11, 2002 09:05 am ET (#12)
Bloodlust
Loyal Fan

63 posts
11-06-01

Alright so if demon and DK set lowers the lvl requirement to morph into those morphs, ill bet only knights are usable of them!

June 11, 2002 09:53 am ET (#13)
Agamemnonz
Loyal Fan

37 posts
01-17-02

those magical arrows cost MP or not...?

June 11, 2002 10:47 am ET (#14)
SpaceBar
Loyal Fan

54 posts
04-23-02

crystal gloves are knight only.........what a surprise....

stone gloves are pretty good too though, those with titan belt would be great for a wis/int mage :) gimme! gimme!

is there any info on what drops these? ...i bet yeti drops yeti gloves..

June 11, 2002 10:55 am ET (#15)
Tweak
Loyal Fan

456 posts
10-21-01

I WANT BELT OF TITAN !!

June 11, 2002 11:10 am ET (#16)
Protocol
Loyal Fan

271 posts
03-26-02

dk set will b for knightz only (obviously -.-) amer any word on the extra str bonuses that come with the sets? lets take a small vote. which is better overall. Stone gloves or Crystal gloves? =) jus becuz an extra ac is for knightz only doesn't make the item alwayz that great ^^ oh yea i'm wondering.... is stone items gunna have a limit its safe zelled point? o.o outta curiousity

June 11, 2002 11:19 am ET (#17)
Mixilplic
Loyal Fan

10 posts
04-30-02

Knight only; Prince, elf, knight only; Elf, Knight, Prince only. Ok... And what about mana regen pots? I thought this update was gonna be about mages/magic. Where's the belt/gloves/boots of spell power or anything mage like? I know there's about 25 mp belts out. w00t

June 11, 2002 11:55 am ET (#18)
Fangar
LC Reporter

125 posts
06-05-02

Alright, unless there is some serious hit bonus Sayha's bow is completly not worth it... Who the hell cares about a 4/4 base damage? If I wanted to melee I would use my rap or better yet play my dusty knight.

I would imagine that the magic arrows cost mana, but if they don't I am not going to be bothered if they are not as effective as silver arrows.

Well at least I don't have to deal with colletcing dragon scales.

June 11, 2002 12:02 pm ET (#19)
SpysLikeUs
Loyal Fan

89 posts
03-04-02

Damn, someone at NCSoft really hates Mages!

Make that 50% weight-off Belt; NO Knights!

-----------

AMER every Mage wants to know ONE Thing!

Does e11 on the Korean Server lift 13.SP Cap!?

June 11, 2002 12:14 pm ET (#20)
Raveen
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-10-02

How about......What are the amulets for? Are they their just to make my knight feel pretty?

June 11, 2002 12:29 pm ET (#21)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

wow i wish it realy is true about the level requirement changes for the morphs, thats gonna be the best thing to happen to alot of people (eh'em myself) keke

oh yeha JestRique the mages have something i really always wanted too Staff of Strength or Staff of Force as some call it

oh and about the Stone Gloves; it says it reduces weight by 10% and it weighs 50 as apposed to crystal glove which only weighs 20 with 1 more ac, that makes the stone gloves lose weight about 5% compared to crystal gloves...hmm i think i'll stick with 1 more ac, and the titan belt your gonn be mine mine i tell you miiiiiine!!!! ^^

June 11, 2002 12:40 pm ET (#22)
Elbryan
Loyal Fan

180 posts
01-21-02

Everyone knows that base damage on a bow isn't added to overall damage. Sayha's Bow better have some serious hit and damage bonuses - to the tune of +7 or more damage, and +3 or more hit - or else it isn't worth spending 15+ million buying dragon scales.

I agree that NC is giving the mages too few of the good items this update. The new belts at least should be wearable by mages - knights will get uberstrong carrying 50% more pots (400+ clears? madness - if anything, these belts should be mage/prince/elf). Fate boots aren't a big deal - it's AC 0, and mages will get the greater haste spell -better stick with your +5 iboots^^. And the DK set is knight only, (if the translation is right)and rich knights will be able to morph into DK at will - would have been nice if it were for all classes.

Crystal gloves would have been nice, but people will switch to stone gloves I think - the 10% carrying capacity with 1 AC more than igloves will be good.

June 11, 2002 01:15 pm ET (#23)
cruelgame
LC Reporter

290 posts
04-04-02

Haha Titan Belt...sweet. Most of us will BE level 52 before we ever get an entire DK set LOL.

June 11, 2002 01:16 pm ET (#24)
cruelgame
LC Reporter

290 posts
04-04-02

Also does stone glove make you be able to carry less cuz Amer says "reduces weight by 10%" with the belts he says "increase carrying capacity"

June 11, 2002 01:22 pm ET (#25)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

fate boots sound like newbie item (0 ac? o.O)
what do cursed boots do?

June 11, 2002 01:38 pm ET (#26)
Fangar
LC Reporter

125 posts
06-05-02

I would imagine fate boots would be used like the B-axe is used now...
I will probably put em on my lacky char to buy and sell things in giran...

June 11, 2002 01:39 pm ET (#27)
TCUBED
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-18-02

yeah fate boots look like the berserker axe of armor ^^

June 11, 2002 01:46 pm ET (#28)
LordVermon
Loyal Fan

30 posts
05-14-02

i want DK set? what drops it death knight?and can u make it?

June 11, 2002 01:53 pm ET (#29)
Rincewind
Loyal Fan

279 posts
02-12-02

Super sweet.

June 11, 2002 02:04 pm ET (#30)
TCUBED
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-18-02

grrRrRRrR server maintenance my arse

June 11, 2002 02:08 pm ET (#31)
Kandy
Loyal Fan

90 posts
10-20-01

Cursed Boots? Couldn't they name it something else? its gonna get confusing for newbies..
Knights get DK morph T_T they level up fast enough as it is now they get super morph that swings faster then ghast and all ac... Give it to the Prince/ss and mages who take longest to level up >_<

June 11, 2002 02:15 pm ET (#32)
Earthsiege
Loyal Fan

56 posts
10-10-01

man, that sux, when you wear titan, you're always slowed

June 11, 2002 02:16 pm ET (#33)
Fangar
LC Reporter

125 posts
06-05-02

I agree Kandy... This is going to create an even bigger imbalance with the classes. Now granted this set will cost a fortune, but that morph allows people to gain levels like they are nothing. Look at what Pr0 has been doing since he got 52... Crazy...

June 11, 2002 02:24 pm ET (#34)
Blaatje
Loyal Fan

89 posts
10-26-01

im comming to collect my DK set where is it????? ^^
btw long maintenance today

June 11, 2002 02:27 pm ET (#35)
FlaRrRr
Loyal Fan

103 posts
06-06-02

keke, 1 minute after last post ^^ i want it all... bye

June 11, 2002 02:30 pm ET (#36)
Jailrune
Loyal Fan

60 posts
05-25-02

The news came from Lineage News Letter

http://www.lineage.co.kr/lineage/aden_world/newsletter_no6_full.html

More information concerning the new sets: during the interview, chief game developer says there will be a small penalty, since Demon and Death Knight are not Lawful monster.

Return to Nature does not untame dogs, because they are not tamed by magic.

You can not have element(storm element, etc.) and any other tamed ones(dogs, tamed monsters, summon monsters, etc.) It means the elements are very powerfull.

Belts : Increases maximum carrying capacity

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Edit: well looks like you got it now. I'll leave some.

June 11, 2002 02:39 pm ET (#37)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

Mages already *got* mana regeneration pots, just not on the US servers. Right now the korean *LIVE* servers already have mana regeneration pots.

Fate boots will be great for bow elves, as AC is not so important for them (trust me on this, I noticed it yesterday after a 20 minute hunt in firelands with AC 3).

Titan belt is not so great as it seems, sure you can carry more pots, but you will also need to use em because you hit/run darn slow.

And about the weight reducing belts... I have a lvl 46+ mage, and I already played all classes (except prince). Mage class is the only class that has absolutely *NO* problem with being overweight all the time. They don't need to regenerate MP when out hunting, they need to reclaim it with their SOM. So I guess its not such an disadvantage for mages not to be able to use some belts. The lower amount of pots they can carry is compensated by the healing spells they have at their disposal...

June 11, 2002 02:40 pm ET (#38)
KoHo
Loyal Fan

18 posts
06-18-02

this update is for damn knights, where's my dk set for mage, i wanna swing super fast with my sof too. nc favours knights way too much.
mages will probably be camping dk and just full heal him to death everytime and sell the set to the knights for like 10mil each set

June 11, 2002 02:42 pm ET (#39)
Mixilplic
Loyal Fan

10 posts
04-30-02

Or blow the items, just to spite them o.o

June 11, 2002 02:42 pm ET (#40)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

Koho, so you say you want NC to make you stronger in melee? Then play a knight for gods sake. Let them improve the magical capacities of a mage, not the melee capacities.

June 11, 2002 02:51 pm ET (#41)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

Sure, but they are giving mages more aggresive spells. The new magic list is not bad at all for mages. Most ppl here complain because they compare the future knight against the current mage. They should compare the future knight against the future mage.

June 11, 2002 02:52 pm ET (#42)
Mixilplic
Loyal Fan

10 posts
04-30-02

Problem there is, we have been waiting how long now for magic/items/POTS that would allow a mage to be a magic user instead of melee/healer?

June 11, 2002 02:55 pm ET (#43)
Mixilplic
Loyal Fan

10 posts
04-30-02

or better yet, past and current mages against future mages. Mages should never, and will never, be the melee gods of knights; but at least allow us a chance ^^

Sorry, that last post was edited and knocked down below Steel

June 11, 2002 03:03 pm ET (#44)
cruelgame
LC Reporter

290 posts
04-04-02

Holy SH$+ IMAGINE BEING MORPHED INTO DK AND NO ONE CAN CANCEL YOU!!!

June 11, 2002 03:04 pm ET (#45)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

Why a chance? Its true that everybody plays their character like they want, but that doesn't have to say that NCsoft should provide us with the means to do so. They created magic user, and in my opinion they should focus on improving the main goals for that user: magic. Not melee.

June 11, 2002 03:06 pm ET (#46)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

Imagine wearing DK/demon set, but because dk and demon are chao, u *always* lose something upon death. (didn't say it will be like that, but just imagine).

June 11, 2002 03:07 pm ET (#47)
Mixilplic
Loyal Fan

10 posts
04-30-02

With that i'm in complete agreement Steel, even if my statements are a bit muddled

June 11, 2002 03:16 pm ET (#48)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

SteelEye, take a good look at those "new" spells... alot of them just elemental versions of our current spells with new icons.

June 11, 2002 03:24 pm ET (#49)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

Etikilam, the lower level spells yes. The higher are not. Don't you see the power of decreasing str/dmg spells, or taking away the ability from a knight to drink pots?

June 11, 2002 03:29 pm ET (#50)
xLondonBroilx
Loyal Fan

200 posts
10-02-01

It's getting very tempting to come back.
I think I'd be quite lost though with all this new stuff. It'd be like a new game for me.

June 11, 2002 03:33 pm ET (#51)
L
Loyal Fan

481 posts
01-16-02

Hiyo ppl~
so does the dk and demon morph off when cancellation casted on you o.O?
why would ppl use yeti glove since bracer is better....
how come a Sayha (god of wind) bow will shoot out fire arrows o.O
what happened to the sapphie amulet.....
cursed boot will be one of the most favorited boot in the game ^_^ full chao o.o
only the glove and the boot in demon set worth collecting, since it less weight
TONS of elemental resist items are out =) without the spells coming out...
why would mages and elves learn any of those elemental attack spell now o.o
they're totally resisted... *NEED SOME STRONG AXE,WITH ATTACK LIKE....30/20 =)
is the crystal glove gonna be broken when it's dropped on the floor?
Belt of Titan was stolen from Squall in Final Fantasy VIII o.o
mmm..... did i say too much o.O but no one forced you to read anywayz -____-;
BIYO BABO(s)<--- need a "s" or not? =) j/k.... wakkakakaaakakaaa

June 11, 2002 03:39 pm ET (#52)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

L, where is it stated that the bow uses 'fire' arrows? I guess u misread: it says that the bow FIRES magical arrows (FIRES = SHOOTING)

;o)

June 11, 2002 03:42 pm ET (#53)
Elbryan
Loyal Fan

180 posts
01-21-02

L - it FIRES magic arrows after collecting the energy of the wind - doesn't say anything about fire arrows 0.o.

The Belt of Titan slowing you should only be for knights hehe...

If knights can DK morph at will with the DK set, then all the new spells and elemental magics won't save the other classes. Elves need a good boss like morph and a set that lets them shoot arrows at a higher speed.

June 11, 2002 03:58 pm ET (#54)
L
Loyal Fan

481 posts
01-16-02

HIYO AGAIN~ "Hiyo"<--- my personal greeting , gotta pay me if using it, i am 100% sure i am the first person using this word to greet since it's weird =) who ever uses it have to give me 5 mil of copyright fee ~.~ gimme b4 i quit *.*
O~ ICIC then the bow is cool ^______________^
it's morning -_-; just let me misread something =)
i am feeling sad for the prince(ss) now o.o
they really need good weapons and armor -_-
no good magic... no good attack.... no good defence....
have magic but sux... have kat but sux... have ..nothing good at armor -_-
BIYO AGAIN~ >.-;

June 11, 2002 04:00 pm ET (#55)
Drathus
Loyal Fan

61 posts
05-08-02

Peeps.. the stone gloves may take off 10% weight.. but i wonder what they way themselves.. i mean.. stone gloves.. sounds heavy

June 11, 2002 04:18 pm ET (#56)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

about the elves:
all elves need is VERY COMMON elven magics...particularly the lv 4 and 5 elemental summons
and...they should make elves ultra strong to compete with knights by making range dmg of bow added to the base dmg too....
and...hmmmmm...make elven wafers common as braves and make it increase all speed on walking sword bow attack speed like braves =) *punching the stupid ent for 5min and it ven without giving you a fruit* >,<

about some deadly combos for knights that is economical for hunt/siege:
fate boots (haste wearer) + titan belt (slow wearer) = normal speed (should be o.o) + lots of pots to carry O.o
max chao str knight + p-g + str enchant + cursed boot (increase str) = crazy str

about the amulets i think they do the following when u wear them
pearl amulet: increase all elemental resistant by some fixed %
emerald amulet: increase earth elemental resistant by some fixed %
ruby amulet: increase fire elemental resistant by some fixed %
amethyst amulet: incrase water elemental resistant by some fixed %
diamond amulet: incrase wind elemental resistant by some fixed %

belt of troll: probably drop by troll or made from ingridients drop by troll
belt of ogre: probably drop by ogre or made from ingridients drop by ogre
belt of titan: probably made from ingridients of various monsters such as troll, ogre, cyclops, and other monsters that have great strengths; or drop by boss

June 11, 2002 04:42 pm ET (#57)
DemonGeist
Loyal Fan

69 posts
03-22-02

don't see what's so great about titan belt, you can't haste, for brave no brave, elf no waffer. i like the dk set tho ^_^, too bad will only be for knights...

June 11, 2002 04:58 pm ET (#58)
dracolyte
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-29-01

wahoo!! dk set kicks ass

June 11, 2002 05:00 pm ET (#59)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

hmmmm.....or maybe they'll surprise us and put a titan mop in the game......

I wonder if u can counter the titan belt the "slowed" part with fate boots haste...
if u can....wouldn't be so bad after all...

what they do with cursed boots will be interesting.....dep will be run by pkers.....

I see fate boots being more useful than the b-axe we already have...
will be good for everyone...

June 11, 2002 05:29 pm ET (#60)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

Yes SteelEye, I see thier power. I also see them not being droped because they are deemed "unbalancing" at the last minute. Dont believe me?
You also said in an earlier post "Sure, but they are giving mages more aggresive spells" We already have agressive spells. Extremly powerful ones that we were never give'n because of thier power. Just because they make the art for it, doesnt mean we will get it. Disentigrate use to look like ebolt, now its a cool spear from god type thing. Does that mean the spell is going to be droped? No, they even said it wouldnt be. Why they make the art? I have no idea...

June 11, 2002 05:51 pm ET (#61)
GovernMent
Loyal Fan

137 posts
04-30-02

you under stand that with the titans belt ur haste pots mean jack? in fact u have to use a haste pot to go to normal speed and THEN use a brave *if ur a knight* to become hasted

June 11, 2002 06:49 pm ET (#62)
computerguy
Loyal Fan

113 posts
01-09-02

ok the demon set and dk set will be very highly prized. The boots will be 2 but most of all the stone gloves and crystal gloves will be the new glove to use. so say bye bye to i glove and mags can say hi to the stone glove

June 11, 2002 07:21 pm ET (#63)
PinPointy
Loyal Fan

54 posts
05-02-02

Ya, all the lvl 52 people will be so p***ed, come on they were on caffiene pills through the week and coffee on the weekends and u see a lvl 4 knight wear a DK set hittin WWs gettin 52+ in 2 months, i mean be serious there should be a lvl limit, i havent seen any of the items yet but i will very soon ^^.

June 11, 2002 07:31 pm ET (#64)
DrunkenKnight
Loyal Fan

81 posts
04-25-02

WOOT WOOT I BETTER LEVEL UP FAST TO KILL SOME DKS ^^ ME WANT DK SET
BUT I THINK ITS GOING TO BE A VERY VERY HARD TO COLLECT OF THEM

I THINK THE DEMON SET IS GOING TO BE FOR ALL CLASSES THAT GOOD FOR MY MAGE TO ^^

June 11, 2002 07:37 pm ET (#65)
PinPointy
Loyal Fan

54 posts
05-02-02

Demon set is like one notch slower than Skele morph...not too usefull

June 11, 2002 07:52 pm ET (#66)
Bloodlust
Loyal Fan

63 posts
11-06-01

im glad i quit lineag :) look at all of u, u all complain and call Nci stupid things, still u stay in game, hoping for btter futures, u pay NCi which gives them even more economical support to be jackasses. wow its kind of a bad cirkel

June 11, 2002 07:52 pm ET (#67)
Bloodlust
Loyal Fan

63 posts
11-06-01

im glad i quit lineag :) look at all of u, u all complain and call Nci stupid things, still u stay in game, hoping for btter futures, u pay NCi which gives them even more economical support to be jackasses. wow its kind of a bad cirkel

June 11, 2002 08:16 pm ET (#68)
BladeKing
Loyal Fan

43 posts
03-21-02

LoL sucks to be Yubgi and Pr0

We'll all be like them now muwahahahhahaha

June 11, 2002 08:20 pm ET (#69)
SteelEye
Loyal Fan

37 posts
12-10-01

These sets are going to require lvl 4O to be weared, and Pr0 and Yubgi still rock because they *are* lvl 52...

June 11, 2002 08:47 pm ET (#70)
DarkArmada
Loyal Fan

56 posts
01-25-02

why do people want to have titan belt IT SLOWS U CONSTANTLY that does look cool at a glance but i don't care if u have pots elfs will rock ur b00ty(with bows)

June 11, 2002 08:49 pm ET (#71)
L
Loyal Fan

481 posts
01-16-02

but with the set, that person don't need to use maple or sosc =)

June 11, 2002 10:42 pm ET (#72)
Spyder
Loyal Fan

148 posts
12-04-01

lol dont u think pr0 and yub will be the only people who can actually get these sets anyway? =P
...and elf should be able to wear, u see lvl 50 elf in no time

June 11, 2002 10:44 pm ET (#73)
Zedicus
Loyal Fan

33 posts
04-29-02

Have to agree with that bloodlust, morrowind is the best game ive ever played.

oh and just a thought

Str Mage with a +9 sof ,and a dk set is just pure f'ing evil ^^ Add in cursed boots when you get lvl 52 omg so wrong ^^ But no way will NC allow mages to be the god's they should be.

June 12, 2002 12:05 am ET (#74)
GovernMent
Loyal Fan

137 posts
04-30-02

mage cant use DK set and its the way it should be. anyways lvl 52 mage would be better. and im sure this "Hiden bonus" is ither -hp,slow allways,you do less dmg, or an added hidden weight.

June 12, 2002 12:14 am ET (#75)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

#63-Why would the Lvl 52 be angry? If they had a DK set they probably wouldn't be able to be cancelled!

June 12, 2002 12:06 pm ET (#76)
Raistleen
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60 posts
05-16-02

Are you sure the DK is still hurted by healing spells? I say so, because a friend told me he encountered DK by chance, and after 7 full heals he had to venz because the dk was still fresh as new.

Just wanted to know for sure before risking a week of slow lvling up ;)

June 12, 2002 01:09 pm ET (#77)
Etikilam
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381 posts
02-12-02

Heal still hurts it, its makes the ploik sound as far as i know. However, a single mage can no longer full heal it to death like they use to...

June 12, 2002 04:44 pm ET (#78)
Raistleen
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60 posts
05-16-02

Thnx etikilam, i'll have to organize a DK hunting mage party (beer, burgers and coi!!!! ) heheheh

June 12, 2002 07:21 pm ET (#79)
brandon
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86 posts
03-31-02

"Increases carrying capacity by 50%, but you are always slowed."
geez that sucks

June 13, 2002 01:09 am ET (#80)
JestRique
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134 posts
05-09-02

to whoever said mages have sof...
knights have 1 handed tsu and already have str, so shadup O.o

to whoever said mages arent melee so they don't need ac...
BS, mages need ac more then knights because of their o so bad hp, 1 hit from a boss and your down to what 1/4 1/3? not for knights, nope, they can sit there and pump pots and stay at their wonderful 500+ hp's, mages run out of pots trying to keep their 300-

if you think this is fair, then you truly are a brainless knight >.<

and it wasnt PM i was talking bout, it was good ac in general for every other class but mage, we cant wear ecm, epm, etc... best base ac we get is something to +4 that gives us maybe 8 if that. knights and any other class can where the ecm which is -5 base and elven, +6 ecm = -11 ac... that a +8 mage armor? elfs and knights can wear epm which is -6, +6 epm = -12 that a +9 mage armor. princes can wear the cpm (i know its heavy, just proving my point) as well as the others, and is -8, +4 ecm = -12 same as epm.

sure mages arent melee, but they could still use some good armor. why do you think we rely on our bb's?! because we cant do nothing else without em (this is for normal mages not str or con) give us strong magic spells that arent duplicates of present ones (and yes alot are) such as destroy or meteor, then well have the advantage. till then, we are to waek to fight alone against what you knight and elfs can solo alone at lvl 40 (lvl 30 for knights)

dont try to tell me mages have it best, sheesh

id like it if fate boots were mage usable to. and the troll belt... y is it knight, prince, elf only? y do we have to get te bigger one? i dont see y crystal gloves give more ac then stone... doesnt make much sense if you compare to r/w things. and just what we want, more knights getting to lvl 50 quick, and even quicker with the dk set. knights lvl 50 getting kinda boring, so few other classes lvl 50. a mage/elf/prince makes 50, GREAT WORK! knight makes 50, welcome to the club of 50+, feel free to pick on the few that dont fit in.

JUST ME BABBLING ON CUZ MODEM IS FRIED >.<
o and you didnt have to read this, but you just did, HAHA! o.O

June 13, 2002 01:25 am ET (#81)
Fishstik
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97 posts
04-24-02

JustRique...if u've got so much to complain about then stop playing.
You don't think it's fair..neither do I. However..mages get the most points to add to their stats. A mage can even have 18con and 18str but then u won't get any magic advantages. If u are a int mage, then no one (except mebbe another mage) can kill you at all. All you have to do is para-freeze them and what can they do?
When mages para-freeze me, I always have to Alt+tab and then quit if i dont wanna die. I think this very well makes up for their lack of advantage to knights.

But overall..they do need better ac..so i don't know wat i'm talking about :P

June 13, 2002 02:33 pm ET (#82)
Etikilam
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381 posts
02-12-02

fish, you obviously have never heard of magic resistance. A knight with a mr set is unstopable to a mage, the best a mage could do is cancle the knight and run.

June 13, 2002 09:55 pm ET (#83)
Fishstik
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97 posts
04-24-02

Etik..if the knight had nothing but an mr set...then a con/str mage can prob kill him. If the mr set was +'d really high, then its not a disadvantage..the knight is just a pro with good ac.

...or somthing like tat... o.O

June 15, 2002 08:25 am ET (#84)
pascalmout
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2 posts
04-03-02


July 03, 2002 09:40 pm ET (#85)
Cogency
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64 posts
12-05-01

Chao Boots!!! lalalala

July 04, 2002 05:58 pm ET (#86)
YoshiElf
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1 posts
07-04-02

ARG! I'm SICK of you mages B#####ing that you suck so much. If u dont like mages DONT BE A DAMN MAGE there be three other classes to chose from why not be a knight since all mages whine that knights are so much better. Ask your self one thing though well actully 2...

1) why did u become a wizard?(the official lineage name for mages in case readers are n00bz)

2)What do wizards do?... THEY CAST SPELLS! yuo get new spells instead of now armor if u dont like it dont play the class. magic IS strong.

and one last thing THIS IS A GAME!!!!!!!!! relax if u dont like change thats the whole idea its for fun not for life u can quit or restart or do something else at netime no one is holding you here making yuo play a class that is not equal... *and if lineage is your life* you SHOULD know that life ISNT fair all ur whinning makes lineage unenjoyable you should be banned all of you who think ur too good to play this game but play neway. I dont want you to whine ne more. you can change what you dont like that is your privelage and maybe if u email nci with yuor suggestions and comments maybe they will change things they dont listed to spamming on world chat -.- and i want all you mages who posted today to go back and read what you whote you sound like 3 year olds!(well 3 year olds who can play lineage):P

Remeber lineage is a good fun community i dont want to play with people like you yuor ruining 12 hours out of my day 7 days a week. I play this game casue i like IT not YOU and update looks great NCI keep em coming:P

*i fully respect if lineage is ur life its mine after all, it all i do :P*

July 04, 2002 09:16 pm ET (#87)
DMX1467
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39 posts
07-04-02

I hope they sell those set items in the stores!! hehe

July 04, 2002 10:46 pm ET (#88)
DMX1467
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39 posts
07-04-02

(#51)Bracer isnt better then yeti gloves, maybe to elves it is but bracer adds bow damage and yeti gloves have +1 to hit

July 05, 2002 06:02 am ET (#89)
TheOnlyOne
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42 posts
05-06-02

bracer doesn't add damage.
Breacer sucks..

July 05, 2002 03:18 pm ET (#90)
BlueSkye
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9 posts
06-19-02

deathknight set cool but then every1 would say i'm levl 52 0.0 a little lame but i like it :) ty for all items

July 06, 2002 12:35 am ET (#91)
ironhand
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4 posts
07-05-02

Hi all ^^ i just wanted to add to NC that in the dark ages that mages did in fact help in battle in the back of the pack. healing and reducing the enemys forces with powerful spells of the gods..... in the game you don't have enough mana to help the forces. lvl 33 mage with all help (mage set, belt mama 50) still under 400 mana that only 10 full heals in a seige and you dont even full heal them then out for at least 3 min. plus to use any powerful spells you have to be with in 2-3 cells I think a mage should be able to help at least 4 knights and 2 elfs in battle... the new spells are nice but not that effective..... the range is too close!!!! it just like melee... mr for every one is very high

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