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June 04, 2002 07:23 pm ET - research by NC - US

Lineage Dev Chat

Come and join us for a Lineage Dev Chat, tonight at 7pm Central US time! The chat will be taking place on Stratics IRC, in the channel #lineagehoc. Members of the US Lineage staff will be on hand, discussing Lineage and answering questions.

Hosted by Stratics Network, the moderated chat will be held at irc.stratics.com in #lineagehoc.

If you’ve never attended an IRC Chat before, just download an IRC client (such as mIRc) and connect to one of the following servers:
irc.stratics.com
irc.stratics.dhp.com
stratics.frws.com
riot.tac.net
stratics.truefear.net

Once connected, stop by #lineagehoc.

We look forward to seeing you there!

For those of you who cannot use mIRC or any chat client, you can also connect using the LC #lineagehoc Java Applet.

Chat is over. Lineage Stratics has posted a transcript.

06/04 #lineage House of Commons transcript

June 04, 2002 07:26 pm ET (#1)

Agamemnonz
Loyal Fan
37 posts
01-17-02

Pretty late anouncement o.0

June 04, 2002 07:45 pm ET (#2)

Drathus
Loyal Fan
61 posts
05-08-02

3rd post ? ;p hm.. moderated chat.. as in .. some people get to ask questions.. alot of others dont...

June 04, 2002 08:07 pm ET (#3)

InToTheFire
Loyal Fan
142 posts
11-27-01

I TOLD YOU HAHAHA, no one would believe me when i told them that the dev chat would be today. i even e-mailed amer :P

June 04, 2002 08:39 pm ET (#4)

Rhayde
Loyal Fan
64 posts
12-29-01

Drathus, there'll be Question Takers who you message your question to, who relay it to the chat moderator, who asks the NC officials in the channel.

June 04, 2002 08:50 pm ET (#5)

DarkArmada
Loyal Fan
56 posts
01-25-02

i can see the presidential election answers happening all over again...
player: "so (a good question about up coming game updates)"
NC-i: "(lots of words not answering the question but leave u with the feeling that it might have missed what he was saying)"

June 04, 2002 09:01 pm ET (#6)

TOOL
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-28-01

umm....its not working for me i just see the little triangel,cricle,square symbol on the top left corner.

June 04, 2002 11:28 pm ET (#7)

FrozenSoul
Loyal Fan
119 posts
10-14-01

Gaffer is such a joker =)

June 05, 2002 12:02 am ET (#8)

The Shadow
Loyal Fan
16 posts
04-24-02

Unless we get to scream and yell, i really dont see the point of these chats. Seems if we talk in a calm and orderly fashion, we arent listened to.

June 05, 2002 02:02 am ET (#9)

OYE
Loyal Fan
74 posts
10-11-01

one thing they didnt talk about is the exdous connection lag some time -_-

June 05, 2002 04:26 am ET (#10)

SELain
Loyal Fan
39 posts
04-06-02

They just made vague points about upcoming stuff, but didn't talk about any issues. They could use these to get some valuable feedback but instead they waste it on plugging their latest update (and poorly at that). If anyone actually felt heard by this, plz, say so

June 05, 2002 04:30 am ET (#11)

Drathus
Loyal Fan
61 posts
05-08-02

The "cannot send to channel" message means the channel is moderated(+m).. its standard IRC. Only people with a + or a @ before their names can talk. Only people with a @ before their name can set a + on someone.

June 05, 2002 04:53 am ET (#12)

Schwartz
Loyal Fan
134 posts
02-08-02

Did anyone like them joking back and forth between each other... that, and the 3-8 minute pauses between each question... You'd think someone with a little KNOWLEDGE could have shown up to actually answer questions, instead of these middle-managers that had to doublecheck everything they were about to say with each other.... what a waste of time. I could email myself the questions and expect more feedback. I'm going to bed disgruntled.

June 05, 2002 06:00 am ET (#13)

The Shadow
Loyal Fan
16 posts
04-24-02

lol u all, are u all really that surprised? wake up....these guys are worse than our politicians, and this 'chat' confirms my suspicion that NC has very little interest in what it's consumers have to say. Play lineage til you find something better, then bail. And when you do, (and oh yes, u will quit lineage), make sure you mail them with why you left. If not, plz dont whine about Lineage2.

June 05, 2002 06:34 am ET (#14)

JaggedEdge
Loyal Fan
10 posts
05-12-02

These chat sessions are incredibly lame, counter-productive, and insulting to anyone with an average intelligence. The pauses between questions clearly showed that these peoples had nothing to say and proved they were just going to run the same ole rhetoric at us. NC Austin has mastered the art of answering a question without addressing the issues in the question. (They should work for Bill Clinton)
If they got nothing to say then say nothing. If ya got something to say then say it, but don't insult us. Atleast have that much respect for us!!!!!

June 05, 2002 07:09 am ET (#15)

Orcide
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-05-01

arghhh buug... amer on your monster page i can only see first monster and

Drops: ,
Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e10'
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Too few parameters. Expected 1.
/monsters.asp, line 302

:P

June 05, 2002 10:46 am ET (#16)

KnightSpirit
Loyal Fan
137 posts
04-27-02

i asked the first question, yayyyyy
but then there cannot be a worse possible answer -.-

June 05, 2002 11:09 am ET (#17)

tiktak
Loyal Fan
3 posts
06-03-02

guys, this was actually a very good chat. I usually get bored, disgusted, or both, and get myself banned, but this time I actually had a really fun time and got a good response.

June 05, 2002 12:06 pm ET (#18)

Fangar
LC Reporter
125 posts
06-05-02

Well I am rather mixed on the chat. While it was nice to see them taking the time to talk with us, there was a lot of dancing going on and I didn't feel that they truly answered any of the tough questions. I for one would have loved to have a dialogue about the whole exp system.

But let's give these guys some credit. The pauses were there so they could give accurate and well thought out responses. The worst thing that could possibly happen would be for someone to blurt out the first thing that came to their mind (which of course we would jump on them for too)...

And Schwartz - I think these "middle managers" are the ones that are most in touch with the game. These are the people that execute the actions and come up with the ideas. Anyone higher up would be out of touch. That's generally the way it works in any business.
Oh and I liked the banter between each other - we always complain that the Monitors are not fun or human, well they were both...

It's a work in progress folks... Alright I've rambled on long enough.

June 05, 2002 01:48 pm ET (#19)

wrecker
Loyal Fan
9 posts
05-29-02

Well at least give NC some credit, it's good that they take time to acknowledge the problems/questions of the Lineage members. But they make it seem as if this is a "treat". NC should have these chats held on a weekly basis, since indeed that we are paying customers of the game.

June 05, 2002 02:21 pm ET (#20)

Elbryan
Loyal Fan
180 posts
01-21-02

I was there..

Yes, they took a LONG time to answer questions.

And the answers we got were the usual politically correct corporate speak, with the addition that they didn't tell us anything we didn't already know. They ask us to focus on pre-ep 11 stuff and when asked what they had planned as a direct question, they mention the newbie dungeon?? What about Int/MP savings, Summon changes, hit/dmg changes and ALL those changes that are in the korean servers right now?

This chat was primarily a face-saving mission after the exp fiasco. Not a lot of face was salvaged, however.

June 05, 2002 02:45 pm ET (#21)

spasmodium
Loyal Fan
7 posts
04-30-02

NC-Austin is so lame. It was like watching the Presidential Debates. Lineage is slowly dying and they can't do anything about it. They were saying they expect subscriptions to increase, when in fact they are slowly fading into oblivion.

June 05, 2002 03:22 pm ET (#22)

SpysLikeUs
Loyal Fan
89 posts
03-04-02

What a bunch of Spin Doctors.

I learned absolutely nothing from reading that transcript other than now instead of being one month behind Korea, we are TWO months behind! What a bunch of useless puppets these NCSoft people are in Texas...
Baah!

I've said it before; when you read that Exp.change apology statement from NCSoft it's so clear only one person decides what happens with this game, and that one person does not have a clue how to balance this game properly.

To adjust the death penalty vs. exp gained in order to keep veterans from hogging newbie MOP is ridiculous when the solution to this problem is so much simpler!

Increase all MOP drops, and make drops value correspond to MOP Level. Why kill a lvl.3x Dark Elf for 65 adena when I can kill a lvl.0x Gremlin and get metal worth 650 adena!

If they simply RETURNED to what the drop system used to be in this game, then problem solved. Frankly, I've never heard of noob's complaining that veterans are hogging their lowly MOP. If anything, I hear more about Veterans complaining that noobs are stealing their MOP in harder areas like DV, FV, AC where noobs don't belong!

June 05, 2002 03:31 pm ET (#23)

TheQuickWind
Loyal Fan
145 posts
04-15-02

They said nothing..... :P
They wasted my time reading it...
Next time they better have somthing inportant to say.\ . /

June 05, 2002 03:36 pm ET (#24)

Irwin_Gamer
Loyal Fan
26 posts
05-07-02

LOL... It was Lord British playing each different character. He is gearing up for the final update where we all get sticks and stones to kill mops with.... oh, for less experience of course.

June 05, 2002 03:36 pm ET (#25)

TheQuickWind
Loyal Fan
145 posts
04-15-02

Hogging mops... If nc was to keep the exp loss low the way it was for that .. week or so, people would hunt harder places with out fear of dieing from lag.
They wanna make it harder for everyone to lvl up.
Its all bull shit they are just lieing to us to slow are lvling.
And i'm 30 sec from quiting and telling them to go and #&*@ them selfs.

June 05, 2002 06:52 pm ET (#26)

Agamemnonz
Loyal Fan
37 posts
01-17-02

I think the chat was fun and good.
I think it would be nice of they had this like every week or 2 weeks.

June 05, 2002 08:05 pm ET (#27)

DarkArmada
Loyal Fan
56 posts
01-25-02

"They just made vague points about upcoming stuff, but didn't talk about any issues. They could use these to get some valuable feedback but instead they waste it on plugging their latest update (and poorly at that). If anyone actually felt heard by this, plz, say so"
sound like most of u are saying this... being a lineage refugee i posted this ahead of time:

i can see the presidential election answers happening all over again...
player: "so (a good question about up coming game updates)"
NC-i: "(lots of words not answering the question but leave u with the feeling that it might have missed what he was saying)"

lineage will always have problems and the koreans will always have better stuff, however quit crying about it if u don't like the game quit just post something like i would want that or i don't like that not "dam it NC-i is of the suck!" (yes yes is of the) as long as u quickly make ur point they will change it... 1h tsu... drop increse... test server... dog hp bars... (who wanted those dam new names >.<???)
they will always be shelobs to me ^^

June 06, 2002 02:18 am ET (#28)

SELain
Loyal Fan
39 posts
04-06-02

I beleive the name change was due to some copyright issue, but thats just something I heard from a guy on the street. I'm kinda confused though, darkarmada, was that post with me or against me?

June 06, 2002 01:27 pm ET (#29)

mp3
Loyal Fan
193 posts
02-12-02

what kind of answer is that for the tsu issue..... just tell us YES/NO.
Well either way i'm just gonna keep my tsu for longer. But it will only be a matter of time before US follows the other asian servers. Oh and its not just KR servers now ... HK server decided to consider making tsu 2 handed again. HK lin is testing 2 hand tsu on their test server now.

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