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May 20, 2002 06:35 am ET - research by amer
Episode 11 teaser
Looks like Episode 11 is coming soon. (From the official NC - Korea website).

May 20, 2002 06:45 am ET (#2)
nihiliumdefence
Loyal Fan

51 posts
03-21-02

WOOT!!!

May 20, 2002 06:50 am ET (#3)
Raveen
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-10-02

Well, I naturally want to say "sweet" as well, but I can't even tell what the heck I'm looking at. Anyway, YAY Ep 11.

May 20, 2002 06:54 am ET (#4)
Sorelore
Loyal Fan

75 posts
01-28-02

umm..YAY..i was scammed of everything tonight :(...i hate Lineage..too bad i wont be around for ep 11..i quit

May 20, 2002 07:01 am ET (#5)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

you hate lineage because you were scammed? grow up

May 20, 2002 07:04 am ET (#6)
PeNTeL
Loyal Fan

299 posts
12-11-01

yay i was banned last night

May 20, 2002 07:10 am ET (#7)
Pantera
Loyal Fan

12 posts
04-02-02

banned or not, episode 11 is going to rock :)

May 20, 2002 07:12 am ET (#8)
oblivion1981
Loyal Fan

22 posts
05-16-02

Wow i can hardly wait

need to reach lv 45 + b4 that gets here so i can have a shot at the ice queen ;)

May 20, 2002 07:26 am ET (#9)
OLDMAN
Loyal Fan

100 posts
04-04-02

I think its going to get really really boring quickly. Just like episode 10, although the new changes coming to elf (are they coming in this episode?) should make it more interesting for the elves.

I might even consider starting one myself to try out the new ways you can progress. Elfs are rather easy to level up (dex elves of course, because you can kill stuff before it even reaches to you).

On the other hand it's just a plain old update that adds new items, spells, monsters and stuff. Which is just what we are always asking for. Just a question: Have they started making the 12 new episodes already or will it be decided after the last one has been released in here. I think end of days is rather near (1 year or so). This game cant compete with this kind of contents.

I'll just list some of MMORPG's here that i recall coming in next 1-2 years. And some that already excist. They come in numbers, and there definately wont be enough players for every game. Unless all people in China, Africa and India start playing them :) I presume even Lineage isnt making profit in USA, but it does not really matter since it is doing so well in other countries..

Here is the list (add your own):

Everquest
Asherons Call
Dark age of Camelot (add on later this year)
City of Heroes
World of Warcraft
Dragon Empires (Codemasters's Lineage ripoff ;-) Much cooler though)
That Star Wars game?
Shadowbane
Lineage 2

Must be more but i really cant remember now, im too tired. You figure out the rest. What will determine the success of these games? Warcraft will manage, earlier games have so much fans that. DaOC will propably keep on going, an add-on (large ones, unlike lineage) won't usually drive people away from the game.

May 20, 2002 07:46 am ET (#10)
noida
Loyal Fan

12 posts
03-08-02

man thats 1/4 of the game i know that are coming or are on there way
lineage in usa isn't if it isn't losing profit at the moment they sure will by the end of the year ... there are way to many MMORPGs and there isn't enough people to play them all all u ahve to do is do a search on MMORPG's and u get thousands... most arn't out yet just do search through www.google.com

May 20, 2002 07:59 am ET (#11)
LordVermon
Loyal Fan

30 posts
05-14-02

ummmm i think if lineage (US) gives the ppl what they ask ( drops) that more ppl will stay and keep playing. but NC just doesnt do it.

May 20, 2002 08:20 am ET (#12)
Sevenblade
Loyal Fan

157 posts
02-26-02

This is so STUPID! -_- AARGH!!
Nci keeps making changes and updates while other components like DS, FAF, VAL, ANTHA, are still bugged.
NCI GIVE US THE DEX UPDATE AND OTHER STUFF IN GOOD SHAPE FIRST BEFORE YOU THINK OF A NEW EPISODE!!!

May 20, 2002 09:15 am ET (#13)
DarkFlameX
Loyal Fan

22 posts
03-04-02

Seven u smart ass their more then likely gonna fix most bugs and such in episode 11 >.<

May 20, 2002 10:02 am ET (#14)
OLDMAN
Loyal Fan

100 posts
04-04-02

For some reason i highly doubt that DarkFlameX, history will repeat itself..

May 20, 2002 10:21 am ET (#15)
UTOPIAX
Loyal Fan

7 posts
04-17-02

I think more people leave lineage each month then people join, in that case lineage is on deathrow and its just a matter of time. The things that make people quit are:

bad customer support (in game and through email), I know its difficult for NCi to hire some more ppl for support because the game isn't making any profit and its to cut losses.

lack of events, I really almost thought they were changing that with the LB arena event but it was only to catch the mac players for subcription, after the mac players decided to stay they went back on the old business again.

stupid balancing issues,
remember tsurugi, it was meant to stay 2h for awhile so many people count on that now some nci idiot thought it was fun to change it to 1h overnight. Also there is a habit to get things out of the game due to balancing issues (Cray's Quest, Valakas, Fafurion) and not to put them back in. How long ago was cray's quest put out of the game? 1,5 years ago? i guess nci had enough time to fix it and make the quest work again.

Also nci are louzy in fixing bugs, see how antharas is still out there invincible due to the burrow bug. And there are so many bugs to mention.

Oh well, have fun playing lineage, and OLDMAN, plz say hello to Shaolin for me and especially Eversholt.

cheers,
Dragnaer|UtopiaX

May 20, 2002 11:34 am ET (#16)
Sevenblade
Loyal Fan

157 posts
02-26-02

Heya drag...
#14 O_O look at dragonslayer... why isnt it fixed... they had 1.5 years the time to fix that... episode 11? after 11 comes 12... THEN comes lordbritish with his ideas...
Ill stick around... TILL they make it 3d... then its... BYE lineage

May 20, 2002 12:21 pm ET (#17)
aupairKing
Loyal Fan

320 posts
03-11-02

I agree fully with OLDMAN and Seven, they have had more than enough time to fix these problems and yet still they do not.

I mean look at it this way, do you remove a cars tires to fix a wheel balancing problem and then half way through rip the dashboard out to adjust the damn Air Conditiong????? You fix one thing at a time, and NCI or maybe it is NC-Austin do not seem to understand this.

Like my Old Man used to say "You can't fix the problems, if you can't hear the complaints! So pull your head out of your ASS and start listening!!"

May 20, 2002 12:34 pm ET (#18)
Sevenblade
Loyal Fan

157 posts
02-26-02

lol he's right :)

May 20, 2002 01:07 pm ET (#19)
Iphegenie
Loyal Fan

58 posts
05-02-02

Come on,.... you think other online games are without bugs? It's a little more complicated than that,.... hey, why don't you try developing your own game if you think its soo easy. As well, customer support might be easier if all of the customers spoke english... or korean.... they don't.... enjoy the game, or quit. The fewer unhappy jerks, the fewer PK's we have to put up with in-game :)

May 20, 2002 01:49 pm ET (#20)
zinnestro
Loyal Fan

63 posts
05-01-02

I think the PRINCE/CESS should have there own swOrd. Like Excalabur or in lineage terms the Great Sword. Make it 1 handed only for prince. What prince you know that had stuff this weak in any story?? Let me know what you think?

May 20, 2002 02:12 pm ET (#21)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

US lineage is probably losing money but it doesn't matter because Korean servers are their backbone. Bugs there are fixed in a matter of hours since they don't want to upset their customers there. Lose customers there = dead lineage.

Everygame dies in a matter of time. But lineage has held up to 5 strong years and doesn't seem to die just yet.

May 20, 2002 03:10 pm ET (#22)
Smokie
Loyal Fan

139 posts
02-26-02

wow, looks awsome still...

May 20, 2002 03:40 pm ET (#23)
Tueur
Loyal Fan

60 posts
04-05-02

Zinnestro -- great idea about a powerful prince/ss sword. :)

aupairKing -- creating a game is not like fixing a car. The people working on bug fixes are very likely NOT the same people who are creating pixel models of the ice queen. It makes NO SENSE to put the artists on hold because there's a specific problem w/ an area they have no expertise in fixing. Would you like a bunch of artists trying to fix the Antharas hiding code?

Amer: great site!

Melantus: don't let the negative criticism fool you. Yes, there are a few problems, but as with any other product, the dissatisfied customers are the ones who speak the loudest. There are many, many happy customers out here.

I'm personally looking forward to Episode 11 and hope that there's something good coming for princes. :D

May 20, 2002 03:50 pm ET (#24)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

god guys stop complaing about NC if you dont like the game quit. I am looking forwerd to EP:11 it will be fun.

May 20, 2002 03:55 pm ET (#25)
cruelgame
LC Reporter

290 posts
04-04-02

Pentel you got banned you babo? Can you come back?

May 20, 2002 04:19 pm ET (#26)
PeNTeL
Loyal Fan

299 posts
12-11-01

dun think so o.o

May 20, 2002 04:41 pm ET (#27)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

suxs pentel to bad u got banned. there goes another strong ass player from lineage anotehr vet T>T

May 20, 2002 05:12 pm ET (#28)
SpaceBar
Loyal Fan

54 posts
04-23-02

#25
your right

why do you people complain yet you continue to pay? if you dont like the way they run their company STOP PAYING THEM. I personally dont care about the drops, yes i would like better drops but there arent so dont complain. And as for the events...we get them monthly right? well the spring fair was last month, lets wait and see what we get for may.

Stop complaining if you dont like it quit.
(and if you do quit make sure u holla at spacebar and give him all your items :P!)

EP11 looks good though nice job nc

May 20, 2002 05:13 pm ET (#29)
SpaceBar
Loyal Fan

54 posts
04-23-02

#25
your right

why do you people complain yet you continue to pay? if you dont like the way they run their company STOP PAYING THEM. I personally dont care about the drops, yes i would like better drops but there arent so dont complain. And as for the events...we get them monthly right? well the spring fair was last month, lets wait and see what we get for may.

Stop complaining if you dont like it quit.
(and if you do quit make sure u holla at spacebar and give him all your items :P!)

EP11 looks good though nice job nc

May 20, 2002 05:50 pm ET (#30)
cruelgame
LC Reporter

290 posts
04-04-02

Pentel what you do to get banned?

May 20, 2002 05:53 pm ET (#31)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

You know... I'm getting irritated with people badmouthing NC. Whomever said to "go make your own game" was right. To people on global trying to create waves by saying "I quit," I say GOOD RIDDANCE. The game is better off without complainers. How many of you play for the people??? I know I do... The game is what you make of it, and the fact that its NOT some structured, prepackaged POS sitting on the shelf at BestBuy is what gives it its appeal. But I digress...

My humble suggestion.... is if we could have one place to PUT suggestions, where we feel as if they have been received. I tried out the lineage.com messageboards, but found it unsatisfying. Since Amer is the man...umm.. again, I digress.. since Amer's site kicks butt, I feel comfortable posting my 2 suggestions here.

1) I would like for the effect of Polymorph scrolls to take effect immediately without a restart. I'm wondering if the scrolls were really originally designed to require a restart, or if it is a bug that just got overlooked. They made the weight gauge update in real-time...I'd appreciate it if poly scrolls did too.

2) It has come to my attention that the Elven Spear, a weapn whose only selling point is the fact that it can hit 2 squares away, does not have this ability when in polymorph. I'm guessing this is because there is no animation for a skeleton swinging a spear....but I don't know. I'm guessing this would be harder to fix, but it seems to me that the form of the person holding the weapon shouldn't change the properties of the weapon, itself.

If you have read this far, you have too much time on your hands...
not unlike myself.

See you in the game. May the Schwartz Be With You!!!

May 20, 2002 05:57 pm ET (#32)
Elbryan
Loyal Fan

180 posts
01-21-02

Schwartz - a lot of the 'whiners' and 'quitters' started off like you - supporting NC and making a 'few' suggestions for NC to fix. They wait, and wait, and wait and they become annoyed with what they percieve as a small bug that NC should fix quickly, but can't/won't. That's how the next generation of complainers and quitters are born.

May 20, 2002 06:11 pm ET (#33)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

Hmm.. good point, I guess. But I really dont think that group gave NC enough thanks for the MAJOR change of Exp loss with death. that is CLUTCH! I think that should at least earn them a bit of respect, if not more patience.

May 20, 2002 07:06 pm ET (#34)
SpysLikeUs
Loyal Fan

89 posts
03-04-02

SwartzWiz

1. Leave SOSC alone. Some like having MOP hostile with SOSC, some don't. Personally, I like MOP to be hostile, and I like having the choice, so I don't need to restart. So stop complaining.

It's newbies like you who complain about what they assume are annoying bugs, and ruin this game for the rest of us!

2. Elven Spear will work while morphed as long as you morph into a 2x reach MOP. Try your Spear with a pole carrying Tribal Orc, and you will see it works quite nicely.

This thread is symtomatic of Lineage shutting out expired players from their forums. All the players who would normally bitch about the game and NCSoft there, are now here!

(including me ^^)

May 20, 2002 07:38 pm ET (#35)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

SpysLikeUs - not in my experience. Go to a PvP zone, and have two friends line up. You can't hit the 2-cell away friend (I've tried with Duda-Mara orc and Skeleton Pikesman/Soldier)

May 20, 2002 09:04 pm ET (#36)
InToTheFire
Loyal Fan

142 posts
11-27-01

same here it wont work spys

May 20, 2002 09:05 pm ET (#37)
Luckie
Loyal Fan

151 posts
03-19-02

....
PanTel banned? grrz the list of vets is so short now i bet you could count how many are left with your hands

awww wellz new update looks ok... but im gunna agree with seven and OLDMAN and the rest of em they should fix whats wrong first... grrrz i would really like to see crays test back ive been wanting to do it since well beta... ive had all the items in my storage since then.. bring back the dragons beef them up again make them summon like the bosses do now.. back to old anthuras that i first heard about summoning drakes... make valk summon ifrits.... faf summon sea dancers dunno that seem like it will even them out a bit more... there lots of thing you could do to make them harder to kill wihtout having to take them out for long periods of time... grrrz but still updates are great but make sure everything is working before an update starts seem more professional to me... and calm down on banns geeze i mean i got 500min chat ban yesterday nite jsut for sayin fuk.. sorry amer.. the new update is gunna be full of bugs.. if you add it that just means more bugs to fix so why not fix some of them now before u ahve too many to handle

May 20, 2002 11:08 pm ET (#38)
Arkaine
Loyal Fan

153 posts
04-23-02

#28 no one would stop paying because then what right do we have to complain and also lots of people are addicted to/enjoy lineage and dont wanna stop playing

i agree with seven and all them that they should fix many of the bugs which have been in Lineage for a long time

May 21, 2002 12:05 am ET (#39)
Septonian
Loyal Fan

93 posts
10-29-01

I personally think Anarchy Online is the best... Mind you, I'll become an Advisor of Rubi-Ka (those are the support people, dedicated to live in-game support) soon so I might be biased ;) It has in-game live support like I've just said, a lot of player-driven events and even more by the company (FunCom), costs $12.95 a month with a free client like Lineage, has an excellent quest system, has a very wide variety of monsters, has terrorists that will sometimes attack (they're called the Dust Brigade =), has a veeeeerrryyyyyyy vast world (which implies driving cars and aircrafts and watercrafts =), is set in a future (non-apocalyptic for once though :D) so there's a lot of robotic stuff, but there is also a lot of old myth stuff, with dragons and the such..... and the best yet, there are monsters called Leets! Cute little brown hamster-like furry things :)

Oh yeah... and they have nightlife. Yes, *nightlife*! There are bars all over the planet with live DJ's streaming on WinAmp and people dancing and socializing and all. I give it 10/10 =)

For more information, visit http://www.anarchyonline.com. Don't worry, the people and the customer service reps are very newbie-friendly it's easy to start out :)

Oh yeah, those who played during the beta/shortly after it went commercial.. Play it now! I played the beta too and it got SO MUCH BETTER since then!

May 21, 2002 04:49 am ET (#40)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

listen guys i am a vet been playing 2 years planning on playing even more yes i do my fair share of complaing but i also notice people complaing way more then they should give NC a chance 5 years is still pretty new for a company let them work out there quirks then see if they turn around and help us. you notice what they said in the update that nc is changing now to make customer support or in game support more of a reality. They read our comments well atleast mel does and he realys the information back to the company in Texas. now i know i am going to get dissed for putting this out on the boards but you know i dont care. i will just sit back and see what happens.

May 21, 2002 08:00 am ET (#41)
Azzere
Loyal Fan

39 posts
12-11-01

hey does anyone know if lin2 will be free to play at first? i lost my credit card and too lazy to get a new one..... since i was banned from lineage1 i cry myself to sleep at night becuase of all these new damn updates :'( i wanna play soooo bad.... so i guess lin2 will be fun for a while... if it ever comes out! :P cyall amer i miss goon tell him im gonna come back soon plzzzzzz

May 21, 2002 06:35 pm ET (#42)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

SPYSLIKEUS dude... you were totally (ok, only partially) right! :) I'm a moron for not seeing the great benefit of using a poly scroll WITHOUT restarting. I just spent a few hours in the antcaves in skele poly (swinging fast, cause I"m a mage) but not restarting, and it was AWESOME! actually got reasonably good exp for the first time in antcaves since lev 30. ;) later

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