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March 27, 2003 03:38 pm ET - research by amateras

3/26 - Korean Live Server publish announcement

Lineage - Korea announces (https://bbs.lineage.co.kr/lineage/new_announcement/update/read.asp?ListNum=143&PageNum=1) the following changes to the Korean Live servers on 3/26:

All level 45 quests are now active.
Pledge managers will be available in every town. In order to create a pledge now, you need to talk to them.
Aden wedding system has been added.
New housing is now available in Aden.
Volume controls for music level and sound level have been added to the options menu.
Aden tax system has been adjusted and the cheap NPC in the "slum" area inventory has been reduced.
Giants now throw stones when their HP gets low.
Ken Rauhel and Kerenis HP has been adjusted.
All Tower of Insolence monsters can now see polymporphed players.
Fixed the pledge chat color.
Adjusted Gelatinous Cube strength and range.
Fixed Lindvior spawn rate and chance of escape.

Jude1004.com also reported (http://lineage.jude1004.com/news/index.asp?pg=/news/view.asp&cts_id=5108) that the sword swing sound has been removed (we'll try to find out "from what") and that the Auction Board now blinks the house of interest when you choose "more info".

March 27, 2003 03:41 pm ET (#1)

forciano
Loyal Fan
120 posts
10-01-02

volume options, at last, it took nc a while to implement this option

March 27, 2003 03:44 pm ET (#2)

Tweak
Loyal Fan
456 posts
10-21-01

Volume controls for music level and sound level have been added to the options menu.

oh NC, omg u are so fast.....take about 2 years?

March 27, 2003 03:52 pm ET (#3)

melanor
Loyal Fan
61 posts
10-15-02

cool the new quest are in.

but boo to all mops in toi see poly. now they just made it almost impossible. cause there is way to many mops there to hunt effectively.

March 27, 2003 04:09 pm ET (#4)

PebDiGaetano
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-12-02

OO ADEN gunna make mad $$$$$$$ now hehe

mmm TOI agressive >< damn those swords hurt especially when you get like 4 or 5 on you >.< so Aden is harder to hunt now but...... Drops still suck

mmm jelly cubes are they stronger??? shoot farther????

If Giants can throw rocks can we catch them or throw rocks back????? will giants throw rocks if they are blind???

March 27, 2003 04:46 pm ET (#5)

Avari_Dep
Loyal Fan
18 posts
11-14-02

Awsome now i can blast music without the lin sounds going crazy. I wonder how long it will take them to program this into the mac client. Maybe they will fix the 5 month old window bug now too.

March 27, 2003 05:11 pm ET (#6)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

#2: It actually took like 6 years o.O

Where's the skull drop still ~.~
Everyone else looks good cept the giants. Each rock will hurt pretty bad.

Btw.... we're getting this maybe tomorrow on test and Wed on live servers o.o

March 27, 2003 05:15 pm ET (#7)

h2ombre
Loyal Fan
333 posts
02-28-02

"Volume controls for music level and sound level have been added to the options menu."
I've been waiting my whole lineage life for this.

Other than that I think we get hit w/ the nerf bat with this publish. o.o

March 27, 2003 05:17 pm ET (#8)

Fangar
LC Reporter
125 posts
06-05-02

1 - Yay! Cancel spellbooks will rocket to 100K
2 - Meh.. Who cares...
3 - Should be fun, but will cause people to bitch and complain
4 - Who the hell cares
5 - Thank the freakin lord. I honestly have to keep the sound lower than my lowest setting for it not to be BLARING in my ears
6 - I want details on the tax system. NC needs to be upfront to see if Aden is worth sieging
7 - Great another reason to not hunt the Giant area
8 - To what?
9 - This blows. The spawn can be too much for 8 45+ players on floor 5. SOSC was the only thing saving us. Maybe LOA has a chance here...
10 - YAY! No more radiation therapy by way of Alliance Chat
11 - BAH! probably weaker. No more easy DM wins
12 - Maybe yay.. Hopefully he will end a bit easier...

March 27, 2003 06:20 pm ET (#9)

Rincewind
Loyal Fan
279 posts
02-12-02

Yes!! Volume controls finally!! x.x;

And it's about time they changed the painful color of alliance chat.

March 27, 2003 06:28 pm ET (#10)

FrozenYak
Loyal Fan
125 posts
09-30-02

sure....100k on dep.....1m+ on LoA for cancel

and the ToI is almost not worth it anymore like that, i have at least 7 screens where ive counted 12+ swords at once

sure...i realize they cant pack up like that if we kill them - but even then, theyve just turned 5f into an easier floor than 4f now...(for me anyways)

March 27, 2003 06:31 pm ET (#11)

marak2001
Loyal Fan
105 posts
07-14-02

Aden castle will still have problems making money since no one buys supplies in aden. A castle makes money from taxes it collects from shop npcs. If no one buys there castle will make little or no money.

March 27, 2003 06:55 pm ET (#12)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

Nooooo ToI mops o_o~!

March 27, 2003 07:12 pm ET (#13)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

o.o; how about the money aden castle can get from other castles?

and why is cancel so expansive now ^^;?

Guess the Volume control will be very very very useful ^^;

March 27, 2003 07:32 pm ET (#14)

Fangar
LC Reporter
125 posts
06-05-02

Marak.. Actually if Aden gets the tax money from other castles then it can be extremly profitable. You have owned Giran, you see how much the tribute to the king of Aden is...

Well that's a huge earnings potential and the way it should be...

March 27, 2003 08:42 pm ET (#16)

WindElf
Loyal Fan
16 posts
12-12-02

ouch.

#7 and #9 will simply futher reduce episoder 12 hunting grounds into the dustbin of irrelevancy than they already are.

Before this update, at least a few people would hunt Twilight Mountians and TOI.

After the update... yeah, right.

If NC was TRYING to made episode 12 any worse than it already is, I honestly can't think of how they could accomplish that. Utterly ridiculous...

March 27, 2003 09:23 pm ET (#17)

FrozenYak
Loyal Fan
125 posts
09-30-02

just think positive...
um...
uh...

......they didnt make lesser dragons as fast as FI ettins?

March 27, 2003 09:28 pm ET (#18)

brandon
Loyal Fan
86 posts
03-31-02

ha, when i read all that i was gonna say exactly what #2 said. i guess everyone feels that way though

Volume controls for music level and sound level have been added to the options menu

about time

March 27, 2003 10:06 pm ET (#19)

americorps
Loyal Fan
36 posts
01-16-03

NC makes me want to vomit sometimes. They always say crap like "they adjusted jello" or something like that, but they don't say if they adjusted it up or down for whatever reasons. they are a bunch of idiots who know nothing about customer service...in Austin or Korea. If it wasn't for people who actually care about us players, like Amer, I would have quit lineage long ago. I love the game but think NC hires the biggest idiots since Enron.

March 27, 2003 10:45 pm ET (#20)

FuTyOu
Loyal Fan
73 posts
07-01-02

#6 At least we can still walk by the giants to get to ToI... that is.. if you want to go to ToI anymore >_<

March 27, 2003 11:33 pm ET (#21)

Brute Squad
Loyal Fan
10 posts
07-09-02

just to let you know, when they changed jellos on korean test it was to make there distance attack weaker

March 28, 2003 12:20 am ET (#22)

Prince Drathen
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-04-02

Stop whining. I don't know how many of you know this, but Giants already have the rock throwing attack. There's just no rock yet. And they use it so rarely, it won't change things at all. I see maybe 1 in 100 Giants use it. As for the Tower Of Insolence, the tower was never intended to be for solo hunting anyways. It's meant for party hunting, just like Forgotten Island. So polymorph or not, if you're using the tower how it's meant to be used, this won't affect you at all.

March 28, 2003 12:31 am ET (#23)

Forsaken
Loyal Fan
87 posts
12-14-02

NC's way of thinking:

Adjusted = Nerfed, lowered, crippled, turned into nothing more than pure $h1t

March 28, 2003 03:26 am ET (#24)

Alexei
Loyal Fan
34 posts
09-11-02

I've party hunted ToI and when we lost SOSC it got mad crazy on 4f.
We had lvl 52+ Knight,lvl48 water elf, 2 lvl 48+ mage and lvl 44+ mage all with summons and those swords just keep on coming like mad. So if all mops ignore SOSC it will reduce the number of people that hunt there. Strong chars can still go I suppose but the few borderline ones will hunt elsewhere party or no.

March 28, 2003 05:15 am ET (#25)

WindElf
Loyal Fan
16 posts
12-12-02

Whether mops see sosc or not, TOI is not for solo hunting, so the change won't make a huge differnece there.

But as a group hunting spot, this update nerfs TOI badly. I've hunted there in a group (6 ppl all lvl 45+) with everyone polyd, and the same group without poly. HUGE difference. Poly'd, it is doable. Without poly, it darn near approaches suicide. There is no doubt in my mind that this update is goign to mean fewer and fewer groups hunting TOI.

March 28, 2003 08:37 am ET (#26)

Jailrune
Loyal Fan
60 posts
05-25-02

there is 1 more change made. now mages start with e-bolt spell from the beginning.

March 28, 2003 09:31 am ET (#27)

Nitrogun
Loyal Fan
229 posts
03-17-02

nobody will ever goto toi 6th floor again now lol...

March 28, 2003 11:04 am ET (#28)

FrozenYak
Loyal Fan
125 posts
09-30-02

prince...it really sounds lie you've never been to ToI.

I dont think any class can solo it(well, ive tried, but havent lastedmore than half an hour), things there just have too many hp - by the time you kill them 2 other things are already on your screen.

ToI is already very hard even in a party hunt, lesser dragons have area attack and if you find yourself trapped between two of the in a hallway there isnt much you can do. Now...add swords flying past the dragons that are closing in on you....

March 28, 2003 12:19 pm ET (#29)

Chong
Loyal Fan
21 posts
11-11-02

So does reduce the inventory mean reduce prices or items in the slum npcs?

March 28, 2003 05:42 pm ET (#30)

Prince Drathen
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-04-02

"I dont think any class can solo it(well, ive tried, but havent lastedmore than half an hour), things there just have too many hp - by the time you kill them 2 other things are already on your screen."

Thank you for repeating what I've already said.

The Tower Of Insolence is meant to challenge players who are Level 52 or higher (NCSoft even said this when it was implemented). So if a group of Level 52+ players (the people it's meant for) go to the tower, they should do well. And by group, I don't mean 2.

March 28, 2003 08:04 pm ET (#31)

WindElf
Loyal Fan
16 posts
12-12-02

Actually in one of the releases (forget where I read it) NC said TOI was designed for players lvl 60+.

And, um, how many of those do we have on all 3 US servers combined?

So is NC in touch with the US-player base? No.

And I would be curious to hear from some lvl 52's out there who have gone to TOI in groups and found hunting there so easy that they were hoping NC would make it more difficult so as to be a worthwhile challenge. Anyone prepared to assert that? Anyone?

March 28, 2003 08:57 pm ET (#32)

Anime
Loyal Fan
212 posts
12-25-02

Ive hunted toi alone on a 52character -_-
hurts but its doable... just hunt lower lvls
but thats how it should be not like fv where the toughest challenge is remember not to fall asleep....
hunting toi in group is ever better cause then you can move further up the tower -_-

March 28, 2003 10:19 pm ET (#33)

Chong
Loyal Fan
21 posts
11-11-02

U want to get higher level players to be more risky and have more fun when they hunt? . . . decrease % loss on death to 1 or 2%. Otherwise they live in fv with all the other ppl serious about safe leveling.

March 29, 2003 08:04 am ET (#34)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

polymorph does affect how u hunt ToI alot

will make ToI more difficult than it already is

at least the lvl 45 quests we can look forward to

March 29, 2003 03:29 pm ET (#35)

DIVERSAL
Loyal Fan
138 posts
10-06-02

silly people... toi is for lvl 60+ pll on kor servers.... now they will lvl up faster with their sexy dk morphs o.o

March 30, 2003 02:54 am ET (#36)

marak2001
Loyal Fan
105 posts
07-14-02

Answer to #14 yes i know the tribute to castle to king but you forget to mention that aden castle pays all the upkeeps of the towns and guards and npcs. So it dosen't make much money from other castles. And if wanan know how much aden castle makes on ken anyway it made 90k in 4 days time. So to me its a worthless castle.

Now with toi mops seeing coi it for sure will be a ghost town and map. I liked hunting toi but it will really suck to hunt there if everything is agressive to sosc. No point since i know nc will leave the drops the same even though make the mops agressive to sosc.

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