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May 09, 2002 05:25 pm ET - research by NCSoft

Q1 2002 report for NCSoft

In summary:

For US servers, peak load (the highest number of people on at once) is down to 1700 from 2000, but daily access (the number of logins in one day) is up to 5500 from 4800. And a new figure "monthly access", which is presumably the number of people who log in during a month, is 16,300.

NCSoft Q1 '02 report (Microsoft PowerPoint format)

May 09, 2002 05:26 pm ET (#1)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

1st post o.O
is that good or bad?

May 09, 2002 05:35 pm ET (#2)

Underlord
Loyal Fan
78 posts
12-03-01

is that individual login ins, different accounts or just people who login more than one time :-)
Also 16300 people , wow that's a bunch of money isn't it ?
If so why do we have so bad support.

May 09, 2002 06:02 pm ET (#3)

Jaire
Loyal Fan
74 posts
02-12-02

So if they release there financial report, are they a publically traded company? If they are does anyone know what stock exchange, Korean only? and what their letters are?

May 09, 2002 06:19 pm ET (#4)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

BOR-ING

May 09, 2002 06:20 pm ET (#5)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Hey I just noticed the new format on the home page O.o NIce amer

May 09, 2002 06:57 pm ET (#6)

Luffarmasken
Loyal Fan
97 posts
05-02-02

I would pay 1 USD more if thats whats required for getting Events as much as koreans do, more kewl updates, better support...

May 09, 2002 07:14 pm ET (#7)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

I'm not done reformatting the page, just doing it piece by piece. :)

May 09, 2002 07:20 pm ET (#8)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

how much USD is a W (korean currency) ?
and how much USD is a NT (taiwan currency) ?

hmmm in Japan and HK the monthly payment is slightly more expensive than US..
like 1-5USD difference

...what's royal when they show that barchart of different method of accessing lineage in korea?

...they have 24hr call-in help desk..in korea...and un-interrupted power supply for server o.o...and IN-GAME gm support 24hr too >,<

..it says they "invested" 7billion "W" in US servers and development....

lineage3D version beta in 2nd half of 2003 (next year...in korea i presume) with full 3D graphics and patches
lineage2 beta in 2nd half of 2002 (this year...IN KOREA NOT USA) full 3D graphics

oh my....they develop apple (mac) version of lineage as a stepping stone toward a "console" (like ps2 xbox gamecube dreamcast) version of lineage...

...they claim stable server operation....why usa servers crash more than the others?

T1(1.544Mbps) T2(10Mbps) T3(45Mbps) E1(2.048Mbps) OC3(15.5Mbps)...
total bandwidth 669Mbps in Korea...not in usa - -^
let me guess what's usa server bandwidth...56k? o.o

..slide #33 is what amer post at the top..check out the "korean" numbers o.o
in Mar 2002 users concurrently:
korean highest: 136,219 in total of 38 servers...OH MY....
taiwan highest: 145,600 in total of 30 servers....oh..they beat the koreans o.o
US highest: 1,700 in total of 2 servers...guess they dont count test server o.o
HK highest: 3,800 in total of ONE SERVER!!!!!! o.o......oh my.....

the presentation shows "many" $$ features of lineage - -" from ncsoft...

..if anyone can tell me the rate of exchange for W and NT with USD then we can really see if "service" = amount paid per month o.o

May 09, 2002 07:23 pm ET (#9)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

oh my...my ie browser crashed cause i post too much o.o

May 09, 2002 07:41 pm ET (#10)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

(top right corner)
prince sitting -> prince standing

May 09, 2002 08:05 pm ET (#11)

Xenite
Loyal Fan
4 posts
04-26-02

Those stats are wildly misleading. Dosnt include the fact of multiple same person log-ons from isp drops, coming back after a break etc. I log into lineage prolly about 10-15 times during an average day.

May 09, 2002 08:32 pm ET (#12)

Isidur
Loyal Fan
11 posts
04-26-02

yup...my brother and i go on evey other hour each on a diffrent server...

May 09, 2002 08:33 pm ET (#13)

Pooch
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-10-01

Current exchange rates:
$15.00 USD = 19,204.56 KRW
or
1 USD = 1,280.30 KRW

And

$15.00 USD = 516.780 TWD
or
1 USD = 34.4520 TWD

Should answer your question for both the Won and Taiwan currency.

May 09, 2002 08:56 pm ET (#14)

SoulFire
Loyal Fan
19 posts
05-09-02

Well there is a simple answer to your problems NC, notice the payments are all by Credit card,paypal,money order, 1 way to extend accounts being activated would be Game cards) also the money is paied in USD notice that most players are from Toronto and anywhere else in Canada so that $15.00 a month USD adds to roughly $24.60 CDN thats alot to pay for a online game, i have friends who would play but dont have 24.60 to pay per month,even a little less of a charge would result in greater business. just some simple ideas

May 09, 2002 09:19 pm ET (#15)

Warizon
Loyal Fan
22 posts
05-09-02

If it was less expensive I would be far more likely to feel like letting that charge remain on my account month after month. I get so frustrated I have to get away from the game for days at a time and don't get much use out of my account as a result. Then there was the introductory offer where I was supposed to get the second two months at half price, which didn't happen....then there's the fact that the last two times I got lagged out/disconnected the game decided to take my most valuable possessions away from me when I was miles away from any mops, and....oh forget it....I'm paid up through July and that's when it will end for me.

May 09, 2002 09:31 pm ET (#16)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

taiwan pays 10.71USD/month roughly....that's slightly cheaper than usa's 4month rate
and....according to that W rate u gave....
korea pays at least double what we usa server players pay...

hmm....taiwan got more lineage addicts than here...so they can afford to lose customers by giving great events...
korea's pay rate is the most expensive but they got a lot more ppl too...and therefore they'll HAVE to give customers more events to satisfy them or the customers will come up to nc's office and start killing ppl...(in real life)...

May 09, 2002 09:46 pm ET (#17)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

-.-/ Gigi Taiwan is about 20$ us but most in tiawan use the playing cards they buy from store unstead of the set rate. and korea is about 23$ us. but anyways. The cheapest place to play lineage right now is the US. thats why on ken for so long we had 1/2 the server being people from tiawan. but they all gone now for some reason. I think a ip bad.

May 10, 2002 12:26 am ET (#18)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

linspatz i think you are wrong. Taiwan currency it is 369 a month, which is about 10$ USD. Or, you can sell 250k adena to pay for two months (what my cousin does)

May 10, 2002 02:48 am ET (#19)

Pooch
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-10-01

Good old foreign servers with their easy adena to real money systems. ;)

May 10, 2002 03:22 am ET (#20)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

....in korea...players pay roughly $30USD/month way before us server go commercial...that's why there are people who live in korea play here...because it's cheaper...even after usa server go commercial...1month in korean is like 2month of usa lineage o.o...who wouldnt want that?...but...fewer of those ppl ever since nc austin say they block ip from korea, japan, hk, and other stuff..

by far..the customer service in usa is the worse of all the live servers worldwide....they "claim" they invested a lot of $$..but...i guess only like 1-5% of those $$ goes to customer service...

May 10, 2002 04:52 am ET (#21)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

TLFmaster no your are wrong. -.-
gigi its 23$ a month. i pay for my korean account and i pay that much -.-

May 10, 2002 05:09 am ET (#22)

noida
Loyal Fan
12 posts
03-08-02

yerh well damit Australians have to pay 30$$ a month :( we get it bad ....

May 10, 2002 05:21 am ET (#23)

TheQuickWind
Loyal Fan
145 posts
04-15-02

Oo?
Dose this have anything to do wiht dex ac bonus?

May 10, 2002 05:54 am ET (#24)

TheOnlyOne
Loyal Fan
42 posts
05-06-02

Dex / AC bonus is becoming a legned...
How long do we actually have to wait...?
It seems like seeing this one every post..."You will get it the next update"..

May 10, 2002 06:02 am ET (#25)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

lol quickwind. Jezze man u guys sure invest alot of time into this i think math suxs. I pay my monthly fees every month and i dont complain but damn why nc austin get rid of korean tawin(sorry for mis spelling) and japan away from us server i mean its more money to them and alot more people on lineage. I thought it was great back in beta when i was playing with japanese people or koreans. well i am still palying with koreans but damnit i miss the old times! nc get rid of the block isp i want lineage back to 1k + people seiges more fun and pledges more tightly packed as a group! ><

May 10, 2002 06:25 am ET (#26)

Akvavit
Loyal Fan
23 posts
01-15-02

#3 Jaire, yes they are a publically-traded company. They are traded under the KOSDAQ, Korea's version of the US's NASDAQ (Mostly high-tech companies). They went public back in June 2000, with an IPO of 70,000 Won, which, in today's USD would be about $55.00 per share. Currently, they are trading at about 223,500 Won, about $175.00 USD. So they seem to be doing pretty well.

And yes, I own a few shares. Certainly not as much as TJ Kim, but...enough. ;^)

May 10, 2002 07:31 am ET (#27)

IcyFlame
Loyal Fan
3 posts
11-13-01

bigPope..
it's 369 NT per month in taiwan...
it IS roughly 10 USD...
how much u paid for ur korean account doesn't equal to how much taiwanese paid for their account...

May 10, 2002 07:31 am ET (#28)

Vail
Loyal Fan
260 posts
02-27-02

#6 We get the same Updates the Koreans do, with minor variations. On top of that, our US servers tend to get small Updates that the Korean Server do not.
#8 Our US Servers almost never crash, and if they do, they're up within minutes. Of course they don't count the Test Server. It's not a real Server, and they warn players not to play there regularly.
#11 Why do you even bother playing if you only log in 10~15 minutes a day?
#16/17 I believe players in Taiwan pay by the hour.
#18 It's not up to Melantus, or anyone working for NCSoft in the US on which time we get Lineage 2 here.
#27 Most of the people who can't play here, just pay more to play in Korea anyways. They really don't make more by letting them play here.

The customer service in the US (seeing as we have so few registered players) is pretty good. The fact is that when you guys have problems, you're usually just too lazy to E-Mail NCSoft. Instead, you waste your time asking the GMs to help you on Chat. And those of you who E-Mail them and they refuse to help you...It's usually because you did something stupid that violated the Terms of Service. Everyone just needs to chill.

May 10, 2002 11:08 am ET (#29)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

IcyFlame now that i think about it. Taiwan deosnt even have a monthly fee. They pay for lineage by buying gamina cards. and pay a set amount of money for a set amount of game time.

May 10, 2002 01:06 pm ET (#30)

Pooch
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-10-01

I'm personally glad that they block IPs. I think the US server should be for people in north america, and english speaking europeans as it is, since they don't have one of their own. And english speaking australians if so. But I think, personally, that it's not fair for koreans/chinese/etc to come here if they live within said countries and have local service available to them. People will probably call me a racist, but that's stupid. This has nothing to do with race, it just has to do with practicality. I shouldn't have to learn 3 foreign languages to enjoy lineage here. If I played on a different server I would expect to. I shouldn't have to be excluded and harassed by a group of players from wherever, I think it's wrong when a group of people band together based on ethnicity in general because it creates racism. And another main reason is, those players can easily take advantage of us. They know a lot more about the game, they know little things about our updates that we don't, can and do cheat people out of things because of it. It's just not even grounds. I want the game to be on even grounds and not have people playing a "race card" and starting crap like that.

Longest post(aka waste of time) I've made in a good long time.

May 10, 2002 04:24 pm ET (#31)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

em....you DO need to learn "some" korean cause almost 1/3 to 1/2 of the lineage players in the usa server (especially dep) speaks korean...
unless you turn "on" your "english only" feature...you can always see the korean language 24/7 any town - -"...
...usa lineage servers only blocked chinese and japanese fonts but not korean fonts...where as the server has chinese, japanese, koreans, europeans/austrailian ...well you know it...the point is..if u get a korean mad o.o...you r most likely be toast...if you r on dep or test server that is.>,<

May 10, 2002 04:35 pm ET (#32)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

Gigi they didnt block the font. They just didnt make a font for it and call up a windows font for the font used in lineage. o.0 Your a confused little boy.

May 10, 2002 04:47 pm ET (#33)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

~~...........ppl updated their lineage clients every episodes says it the OTHER way...they can see the fonts before the update, then they cant after the update (especially ep10)...what's up with that then?

May 10, 2002 08:46 pm ET (#34)

IcyFlame
Loyal Fan
3 posts
11-13-01

yea bigPope..
369 NT for a fix amount of time[30 days]..
so i think that might count as a "monthly" fee..
or r u talking about the "per hour rate" thing?
not a lot of ppl from taiwan use that option..
since that's way too expensive compare to the monthly fee of 369NT..

May 11, 2002 06:26 pm ET (#35)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

gigi, are you a girl?

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