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May 01, 2002 02:08 pm ET - research by amer, MageOfEvil

High levels unite!

Well, looks like Beleth, Baphomet, DK and Ant Queen levels have changed. We can't find anywhere yet that gives us information on what level they are now, so I ask for your help in determining their level.

MageOfEvil reports that Beleth and DK both have Gold names to level 48, and DK has Gold name to level 49. This means that Beleth is somewhere between level 51 and 57 now, and DK is somewhere between level 52 and 57.

We need *your* help in determining his level. If you are level 42+, my request is that you swing by Bapho, Beleth, DK, Caspa group, Necromancer, Dark Elder or Ant Queen, and snap a screenshot and email it in. The name will either be red or gold. If we get enough different screenshots, we will know for sure what level each boss is, and also be the first to have their exact "new" level. I'll post results in this news so we can keep track of the results.

This new chart summarizes the results so far. Just one screenshot can narrow it down to a few levels, so please, if you are in the levels listed in the "need help from" column, just go take and send in a SS. :)

player		monster			need help from:
name	level	name	name color	deduced level	need help from:
AdaM	49	Baphomet	Blue	50	thanks everyone!
PR0FESSI0NAL	52	Baphomet	Green	50	thanks everyone!
Orcide	46	Beleth	Gold	51-54	42+
FallenSoul	48	Beleth	Gold	51-54	42+
FallenSoul	48	Death Knight	Gold	52-56	44-47, 50+
FallenSoul	49	Death Knight	Gold	52-56	44-47, 50+
Brinkman	45	Giant Ant Queen	Red	54+	46+
h2ombre	47	Phoenix	Red	56+	48+

May 01, 2002 02:12 pm ET (#1)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

sweet ill help yeah out amer

May 01, 2002 02:23 pm ET (#2)

Arioco
Loyal Fan
119 posts
11-01-01

Wow that are really high levels :(

May 01, 2002 02:28 pm ET (#3)

TP
Loyal Fan
18 posts
11-26-01

hey amer i was at DK yesterday and to my lvl 49 knight he was a goldie

May 01, 2002 02:35 pm ET (#4)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

about what level is bapho? my mage is 47, ill try to find him alive =)

May 01, 2002 02:44 pm ET (#5)

speczenit
Loyal Fan
5 posts
04-30-02

lol too bad i am not high enough lvl i would love to help u amer. Soon my time will come

May 01, 2002 02:53 pm ET (#6)

metroid05
Loyal Fan
68 posts
02-07-02

cool i knew GMs would do soemthing like this sooner or later
i'll try to help out also
{*.*}

May 01, 2002 03:02 pm ET (#7)

Lancer
Loyal Fan
9 posts
05-13-02

ill help if i ever get to see one actually alive. Im lvl 45 rite now in test and dep.

be ready, bow down
your Master is here

May 01, 2002 03:48 pm ET (#8)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

They will all probably be green for me

May 01, 2002 03:56 pm ET (#9)

Li
Loyal Fan
62 posts
03-05-02

they'll probably all red names for me....im not even lv 40 >,<....

May 01, 2002 04:02 pm ET (#10)

Rincewind
Loyal Fan
279 posts
02-12-02

My mage is still at 45 thanks to those Fafu hunts...I saw Necro a couple times yesterday and he was green.

May 01, 2002 04:49 pm ET (#11)

ElfBlue
Loyal Fan
21 posts
12-11-01

They really become the Boss class Mop now! lol

May 01, 2002 05:02 pm ET (#12)

Iamaelf
Loyal Fan
94 posts
04-12-02

I am lvl 45 and he is gold to me if that helps

May 01, 2002 05:18 pm ET (#13)

aupairKing
Loyal Fan
320 posts
03-11-02

How about this. Hey mel at Veteran Questions and Answers, what level are these guys and thank you for making it more competitive with the changes.

May 01, 2002 05:38 pm ET (#14)

AdaM
Loyal Fan
34 posts
04-26-02

A lil something about DK:
-From what I observed(not sure if true), healing DK LITERALLY heals it, because our pledge wasted 800+ mp on dk, and it didn't die, but cost our knights 500+ clears EACH KNIGHT. We needed 3 runs to kill it (we weren't afraid of time, since nobody else can kill it.) The best way is to morph into a ghast or DK if you are PROFESSIONAl to kill it. DK is impossible to 1:1 and i have a feeling mages can't get it no more. Also mages probably can't 1:1 because of it's heal problem (its no longer undead).
BAPHO:
it is blue to my lvl 49 knight = lvl 50 my prediction. Bapho does NOT take 4 people to kill it. I was in axeman, with 2 others and we still ended Bapho(the reason for only 3 ppl chopping was becuz we wedged it into a hole). with axeman, im only -22 ac and he only made me pump 70 orange. 1:1 i can probably take it out with 100 orange/ 50 clears, so to those in test who say it cannot be done, after i find a moment when bapho is alone, i will 1:1 and take ss :)
ANT QUEEN: i use knight so i dont bother. Back then i used +6dama to 1:1 it with lvl 40 dogs, but ever since update, i havent tried. From what my frends say, she hurts as much as faf(200-400 per hit)

May 01, 2002 06:04 pm ET (#15)

Arioco
Loyal Fan
119 posts
11-01-01

Ant queen 400 per hit? a mage can't handle that much!

MageOfEvil level up to 49 making screenshots of bosses ^^ congrats man!
Will you be next lvl 50 mage?

May 01, 2002 06:33 pm ET (#16)

TCUBED
Loyal Fan
109 posts
03-18-02

i know a few lv 49.xx mages ^&^)

May 01, 2002 07:07 pm ET (#17)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

So that means i never gonna get coi =(

May 01, 2002 07:18 pm ET (#18)

Smokie
Loyal Fan
139 posts
02-26-02

I am glad compendium is making a good progress for gathering information about lineage for the users...

Also a questions, if monsters level change, does that mean so does there armor class?

May 01, 2002 07:55 pm ET (#19)

MysticSassie
Loyal Fan
32 posts
03-15-02

No, I'm "MageOfEvil" (not really the one on ken)..my old e-mail adress name said that my name was MageOfEvil..i chnaged it and they should update it soon to "FallenSoul" (my prince)..the info was gotten on my lvl 48 knight and some level 49 friends.

May 01, 2002 07:55 pm ET (#20)

MysticSassie
Loyal Fan
32 posts
03-15-02

Sassie is my knight if anyone had questions you can ask me on ken ^^*~

May 01, 2002 08:02 pm ET (#21)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

That's just not fair. As soon as I get to a high enough lvl to kill bosses they all go up in lvl :(
At least Ifrit, B-elder, necro, and caspa & co are still good as old.

I want mid-lvl bosses.....

May 01, 2002 08:09 pm ET (#22)

TCUBED
Loyal Fan
109 posts
03-18-02

you can cronos o.O

May 01, 2002 09:07 pm ET (#23)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

Did you know....
USA is the only country that has those colors around the names of the monsters.

May 01, 2002 09:20 pm ET (#24)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

Cronos lol - You get lvl 8 bosses, then the next boss is lvl 40... :/

Ah nm, I'll put my ac back on the elf and go kill ifrit.

May 01, 2002 09:40 pm ET (#25)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

TLF: Which is why it is up to us to tell the world their new levels. :)

May 01, 2002 10:22 pm ET (#26)

Arkaine
Loyal Fan
153 posts
04-23-02

yup i have never hunted bosses before (cept when i run into b-elder in DV) but maybe i will with new drops cuz im as good as broke ><

May 01, 2002 10:38 pm ET (#27)

KnightSpirit
Loyal Fan
137 posts
04-27-02

for the next month, I dont' think anybody will get to see bapho alone =]

May 01, 2002 10:52 pm ET (#28)

DrunkenKnight
Loyal Fan
81 posts
04-25-02

In the item guide why doesn't tsu say 1 handed?

May 01, 2002 11:08 pm ET (#29)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

DrunkenKnight its because sometimes changes are made to the game and we dont update right away. I will change that right now just so you can smile and know you helped us out.

May 01, 2002 11:20 pm ET (#30)

AdaM
Loyal Fan
34 posts
04-26-02

Amer: NECRO is GREEN to lvl 49... i guess that doens't help... but i was para'd on the first try :\

May 01, 2002 11:25 pm ET (#31)

RGConqueror
Loyal Fan
221 posts
03-22-02

#29 What class is that! What school? Tell me! I want to join a Lineage class. Only fun class in school ever! (:

#31 Huh. Necro knows para?

PS: Is necro caspa's boss?

May 01, 2002 11:29 pm ET (#32)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

RGConqueror, Frist of Necro comes with 2 eyes and about 6 ghouls. The eyes are what froze him. Necro is just another mage like caspa and orim. But unlike orim he didnt go agaist the "great wizzard" like orim did so caspa isnt searching for him. so i think Necro is just hunting 6th floor for the weak heros out their trying to go agaist the true king. or something like that. ^^

May 01, 2002 11:52 pm ET (#33)

RGConqueror
Loyal Fan
221 posts
03-22-02

How can necro go around hunting when he has a book beside him. He cant just leave all his stuff and wonder off.

Sorry I forgot about the gouls and eyes. I played lineage since late beta. Never killed caspa. Only killed nerco once.

Got hacked 2 times. Not playing now. Just argueing and debateing =p.

Its hard to tell anything about the lineage plot. It starts and ends in many places. Like what happend to the great wizard. What happend to enhasad and the evil guy. The evil god... you know... Same god that gave amer his pop up poll. How does eva the god of h2o come in place? a good, evil and water god?!?!

PS: Who is amerantus? Amer's wife? brother? sister? amer's other name?
What is an amer? Why is BigPope's name in green? ahh I know nothing t.t

May 01, 2002 11:55 pm ET (#34)

Arkaine
Loyal Fan
153 posts
04-23-02

hahaha rg is tha funniest guy i like how he uses ps on every post

May 02, 2002 12:09 am ET (#35)

RGConqueror
Loyal Fan
221 posts
03-22-02

Amen. I dont even know what PS means. Someone tell me.

PS: I was hacked. If anyone can donate me -50+ ac and a +tsu on test server ill come back. Know you all miss me. (:

May 02, 2002 12:37 am ET (#36)

DrowElf
Loyal Fan
76 posts
01-16-02

RG, I believe PS means post-script...

May 02, 2002 12:45 am ET (#37)

RGConqueror
Loyal Fan
221 posts
03-22-02

AHH! Sup man (: Long time no see!

May 02, 2002 01:52 am ET (#38)

AdaM
Loyal Fan
34 posts
04-26-02

Ken server,::
Has your bapho spawn time been changed as well? In dep, the bapho hasn't spawned for 6 hours +. Maybe it spawned overnight, but I waited 4 hours, and other ppl also said they've waitied more but with no show. GM cam on and told everyone bapho is not down. I have a feeling bapho in dep doesnt spawn once per hour anymore T.T

ppl playing in KEN plz answer if bapho spawns hourly over there?

May 02, 2002 03:13 am ET (#39)

Asclepius
Loyal Fan
23 posts
05-01-02

Necro is red to lvl 27 ^^ i tried to kill him but i venz after wasting 60 reds and 40 oranges and 20 clears, ^^

May 02, 2002 03:32 am ET (#40)

Orcide
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-05-01

beleth to my lvl 46 mage is yellow name also.
bapho to my lvl 46 knight is yellow name also.

sorry dont have ss -.- too busy ending it -.-;

May 02, 2002 05:34 am ET (#41)

h2ombre
Loyal Fan
333 posts
02-28-02

phoenix is red to 47 O.O

May 02, 2002 06:14 am ET (#42)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

o.0 scary

May 02, 2002 06:37 am ET (#43)

xanth
Loyal Fan
11 posts
12-06-01

Oh great...now that all those uber people HAVE their +7-9 tsurugis, the rest of us wanting to get one of our own has 0 chance (drake is camped so tightly you'd be lucky to just see it). Thank you for adding in another feature that only the select few will EVER get to take advantage of. God Lineage is starting to become the butt of every damn joke that MMORPGs have. Imbalanced classes, bad gameplay, dated graphics, bad staffing (sometimes), immortal monsters, and my personal favorite catering only to "special" people. How many of us will actually see a benefit from the 1 handed tsurugi? I'd say on the Ken...maybe as many 50. Maybe less. Of the total game population, that's probably not even 10%. Will the rest of us ever actually get to use one of our own...not unless you spend months trying to out-bid high-power characters for the ultra-rare items it needs to be made (TQD and Ash). I hate to point out mistakes and poor judgement, but those people in charge of "balancing" and "adding new features" have got to have their heads in the clouds. The only thing this buisness with the tsurugi has done is piss me off. I won't help my pledge in sieges anymore because it's just a waste of my time. My puny little rapier can't compete with even the weakest of tsurugis, so why bother risking xp and wasting money.

May 02, 2002 06:52 am ET (#44)

h2ombre
Loyal Fan
333 posts
02-28-02

Ash isnt ultra-rare and I dont think everyone at a siege has a tsu. Tsu is a great weapon, does that mean everyone and their mother should be able to buy one on a whim? I dont think so.

May 02, 2002 07:44 am ET (#45)

Carlsbad
Loyal Fan
32 posts
04-25-02

#39: from what I've seen on global, bapho doesn't spawn on ken every hour as well. But I do hear that its drops have improved drasticaly.

May 02, 2002 11:02 am ET (#46)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

xanth.. I made a Tsurugi in 2 days, and I'm not a "special" catered to person that you are refering to (although I know what you mean). See my Forum post for more details. Also, I've heard that on korean server bapho spawns twice every 24 hours? Dacomeon on Dep was saying that on global, I don't know if it's true.

May 02, 2002 01:29 pm ET (#47)

Solnac
Loyal Fan
113 posts
10-25-01

They are all green to me... ^.^

May 02, 2002 01:34 pm ET (#48)

Elbryan
Loyal Fan
180 posts
01-21-02

RG,
Lineage2.com has some lineage history for you - more than you'll find anywhere else..
And the new bosses are pretty much knight only - they're the only ones that have the HP to take hits from these monsters. Elves using bows will never get drops because of range,low HP, and bad power of yumi compared to knight swords, bugbears will be obliterated in a matter of seconds..
Bravo NC for 'balancing' the game for ALL classes. All classes for you obviously mean knights. The others are mere footnotes to be ignored.

May 02, 2002 04:52 pm ET (#49)

Aegir
Loyal Fan
7 posts
11-08-01

The online guide has already updated beleth,bapho and phoenix with their new levels...etc check it out.

May 02, 2002 05:08 pm ET (#50)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

According to : http://www.lineage.com/guide/monsters2.html

Beleth is 52 with 850hp -51ac
Bapho is 50 with 800hp -50ac
Necro is 39-41 (!?) 450hp -32ac
Phoenix is 58 700hp -48ac
Dk is 45 650hp -60ac
Giant Ant Queen is not on the list.. no black elder or caspa either..

DK's lvl looks a bit wrong :/ -60ac is mad tho'. I have a feeling his MR has shot up - So he'd take much less dmg from healing spells? Oh, and Necro's lvl is just amusing...

The online manual is a bit useless, they have living armour on there for some reason...

Edit: Oh, Ifrit is 43 (compendium says 40) but still has 300hp and -28ac.

Mind these stats are from the nc monsters guide and is not accurate >:(

May 02, 2002 05:13 pm ET (#51)

Aegir
Loyal Fan
7 posts
11-08-01

Yeah i thought the DK level looked low(comparatively speaking).

May 02, 2002 05:42 pm ET (#52)

Macrossf1
Loyal Fan
49 posts
04-20-02

You know one would think this would encourage the low level players to work together and end the bosses, or knights.

Greed is good except for when you can't get what you want. Then it's just plain annoying.

May 02, 2002 09:29 pm ET (#53)

Litmus
Loyal Fan
8 posts
04-24-02

reply #23
um.... i see the mop name in korean.... but it still has colored names --;

May 02, 2002 11:55 pm ET (#54)

AdaM
Loyal Fan
34 posts
04-26-02

#54, He meant USA Servers

Litmus were you talking about Korean Server or USA Server with Korean Font?

May 03, 2002 01:56 am ET (#55)

DrowElf
Loyal Fan
76 posts
01-16-02

There's no way DK is lvl 45...my knight is lvl 45 and DK was Gold!!! Also ScaleB, the lineage guide said that his AC was -45, his alignment is -60.

Pretty cool to end him tho, he dropped some1 a old belt of soul (or something like that)...all I got was plate mail

PS (hehe): Hi RG, yea, it's been awhile :-) I miss ur razzing

May 04, 2002 04:27 am ET (#56)

PROKNIGHT
Loyal Fan
40 posts
02-20-02

when professional fought deathknight the name was blue.

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