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March 13, 2002 05:55 pm ET - research by NCSoft - Korea
test server updates of 3/13
Official Korean site announced updates https://secure.lineage.co.kr/new_announcement/pre_lineage/read.asp?ListNum=16&NoticeID=2&PageNum=1 for 3/13 to the Korean Test servers:
  • Green potions weight lowered.
  • More level up bonuses:
    • Knight gets +1 to hit every 3 levels.
    • Elf/Prince gets +1 to hit every 5 levels.
    • Knight gets +1 damage every 10 levels.
    • Elf gets +1 damage with bow every 10 levels.
  • Based on your class, MR will now start at different percents. Currently, it is based on your WIS. Now, it will be based on WIS and class:
    • Elf starts with extra 25%.
    • Mage starts with extra 15%.
    • Prince starts with extra 10%.
  • For mages, based on your INT, the MP necessary to cast spells has changed. For example, an INT 18 mage will now get 20% discount on casting level 6 magic.
  • The damage bonus for STR and the hit bonus for DEX has been slightly modified.
  • When using a mana staff, if you don't inflict damage on the target, you will now be unable to drain mana on that hit.
  • March 13, 2002 06:00 pm ET (#1)
    Linny
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    166 posts
    05-01-02

    no moo?

    March 13, 2002 06:02 pm ET (#2)
    speedlab
    Loyal Fan

    124 posts
    11-27-01

    no moo.
    Korea seems to be getting a steady flow of updates, hopefully one day we'll be greeted to an annoucement that the US test server is getting some of these.

    March 13, 2002 06:03 pm ET (#3)
    hbg_star
    Loyal Fan

    4 posts
    01-12-02

    this would be great! my lvl 32 elf will have 16+25=41% that would be great, not perfect but great

    March 13, 2002 06:03 pm ET (#4)
    Dust
    Loyal Fan

    150 posts
    01-29-02

    i like the sound of these updates
    finally nc is doing something

    March 13, 2002 06:04 pm ET (#5)
    Linny
    Loyal Fan

    166 posts
    05-01-02

    bosses hunt will be easier witha little mr bonus

    March 13, 2002 06:05 pm ET (#6)
    BigPope
    LC Admin

    622 posts
    01-18-02

    Sorry guys i didnt do this post so i not gunna tag it with the moooo

    March 13, 2002 06:08 pm ET (#7)
    Etikilam
    Loyal Fan

    381 posts
    02-12-02

    mages get... nothing per level?

    March 13, 2002 06:30 pm ET (#8)
    BigPope
    LC Admin

    622 posts
    01-18-02

    Yeah mages suck

    March 13, 2002 06:36 pm ET (#9)
    DarkIntruder
    Loyal Fan

    51 posts
    03-07-02

    Mages do NOT suck!!!!!! Come to Ken and say that to me! I kill you easily!!!!!

    March 13, 2002 06:49 pm ET (#10)
    acidtrance
    Loyal Fan

    63 posts
    02-25-02

    AHHHHH!!!!!! NC, Plz do an update like this for the U.S. servers. I kills me to read whats happening in Korea. Throw us a bone!!!! U.S. DEP SERVER FOREVER

    March 13, 2002 06:53 pm ET (#11)
    tlhung
    Loyal Fan

    102 posts
    12-07-01

    NC, Do something to US (ken/dep) server pls!! Its abit unfair for us

    March 13, 2002 06:59 pm ET (#12)
    UkLord
    Loyal Fan

    36 posts
    11-17-01

    mages get the discount on spells
    stop windgin :P

    March 13, 2002 07:03 pm ET (#13)
    computerguy
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    113 posts
    01-09-02

    you dare say mages suck and i will kill you on ken for once we get all the spells all u pitty little knights and elfs will bow before us or be killed cause will have disintegrate to kill the strongest knight in 2 hits and meteor strike to kill a bunch o u and we will be able to poly morph you into floating eyes and ressurect our dead mage freinds mages forever we rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 13, 2002 07:08 pm ET (#14)
    LUSITANO
    Loyal Fan

    26 posts
    10-10-01

    mages are suposed to be good but at that time when u have desintergrate and meteor elfs will have 60 ac with bow 70% mr and level 1 to 6 spells including those lovely shields of fire earth etc.. and knights also will have improved ac and damage so come get some u lousy mage!!!! =PP

    Mages are nothing without those fat guys doing all the job for them ahahahhahahahaha

    March 13, 2002 07:15 pm ET (#15)
    DumbPig
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    54 posts
    02-28-02

    ya i argee......fat boy help us do the work.......so what? Thatz what we should get we have less hp ac and weaker weapons then all other classes.....
    and by the way if u on dep sever come talk to me and my 10 fat boy behide me i don't think i will need any fancy spell to end u just the fat boys r more then enough ^_^ Mages ROCKS!

    March 13, 2002 07:37 pm ET (#16)
    HEADHUNTER
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    49 posts
    03-10-02

    LOL mage kills a knight if the day comes the knight should quit...

    March 13, 2002 07:37 pm ET (#17)
    Rincewind
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    279 posts
    02-12-02

    Ummmm, weaker weapons? LOL...Knights WISH they could use SOF!! 9/9, +3 dmg bonus, +3 STR...please.

    March 13, 2002 07:46 pm ET (#18)
    Etikilam
    Loyal Fan

    381 posts
    02-12-02

    sof owns you all, but so rare now...

    March 13, 2002 07:47 pm ET (#19)
    thesimbul
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    39 posts
    01-22-02

    Finally some changes that I certainly hope would make it to the US servers SOON. This should have priority over any of those silly events they have planned in future.

    March 13, 2002 07:58 pm ET (#20)
    speedlab
    Loyal Fan

    124 posts
    11-27-01

    What's up with ken/dep members getting T-shirts? At first Melantus said NC wasn't sending t's out, but now people are reporting they are getting t-shirts in the mail ??

    March 13, 2002 07:59 pm ET (#21)
    VenomOfWest
    Loyal Fan

    36 posts
    11-20-01

    Whoa, this sucks partially for mages(aside from the int discount on mana prices... Hoho, I knew I would be happy for making Int 18 mage). I am sure it will take 3-6 months for us to get these, we still dont have Dex ac bonus on Test or normal servers. @@a

    March 13, 2002 08:18 pm ET (#22)
    InToTheFire
    Loyal Fan

    142 posts
    11-27-01

    man korea needs to give NCi a big kick in the arse and get them to do some work we havnt gotten any improvments in forever

    March 13, 2002 08:21 pm ET (#23)
    Scaleb
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    224 posts
    10-24-01

    Mages get 20% discount on lvl6 spells? so lots and lots and lots of erupts :D
    Might actually start using that spell....

    Darn me for making a con mage :( - Lucky I have a dex elf :D

    March 13, 2002 08:23 pm ET (#24)
    Scaleb
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    224 posts
    10-24-01

    Hmmm - Does this mean the game for higer lvl players will get much easier.

    Mages can cast more spells. Elves and Knights get lots more MR (considering knights started with 0%), lots more AC, more dmg.....

    Those lvl50 mages + knights are gonna be REALLY scary (so are the lvl45+ ones ;)

    March 13, 2002 08:25 pm ET (#25)
    SteelEye
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    37 posts
    12-10-01

    InToTheFire ... Read the text ... its TEST server update, meaning that they are testing things out. Its normal that we don't get it over here yet.

    Imagine the testing cycle. 1st Korea test server gets the update. Korean players test things out. They could also update US test server, but its a new server software version, and must be adapted to work on the US test server. By the time things are adapted, the thing is already tested and if good implemented on the live servers.... So we don't get a test server version, but directly an update...

    March 13, 2002 08:27 pm ET (#26)
    BavmordaX
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    72 posts
    02-15-02

    then tell me what server you play on headhunter, you might be quitting soon....because it doesn't matter what class you play, if you know how to pk, you can beat any other class.

    March 13, 2002 08:30 pm ET (#27)
    QuickShadow_
    Loyal Fan

    173 posts
    02-05-02

    This is VERY unfair for us mages...

    March 13, 2002 08:31 pm ET (#28)
    QuickShadow_
    Loyal Fan

    173 posts
    02-05-02

    This is VERY unfair for us mages... if it evers come out of test.

    March 13, 2002 09:20 pm ET (#29)
    Ramza
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    722 posts
    01-11-02

    haha who says elfs suck us elfs will end u mages forever muhahaha having all ure fat boys doing the work for you hah. Elfs forever! Long Live Dep Server!
    "Welcome to the world wich i created" ~Machine Head~

    March 13, 2002 09:26 pm ET (#30)
    PikaPoo
    Loyal Fan

    59 posts
    01-24-02

    Computerguy i thikn ur wrong.. if disintegrate was 2 hit to kill "THE STRONGEST KNIGHT" it will be a lil bit unfair to other ppl wouldnt it..
    ull almost be doing the same dmg as valakas. This is all About diversity.. if mages can du dat.. this game will suck ballz cuz then the classes will be unbalanced.......

    March 13, 2002 09:30 pm ET (#31)
    FlyZ
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    791 posts
    11-11-01

    The damage bonus for STR and the hit bonus for DEX has been slightly modified.

    NC has probably thought of this before you people thinking high level knights and elves would be scary. Maybe that's why they're balancing it back out.

    SteelEye, good point there. But another reason is that they got 3 test servers with more people than the entire subscriber base in US. They could test things out more thouroughly instead of testing on our 150 population test server.

    March 13, 2002 09:57 pm ET (#32)
    L
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    481 posts
    01-16-02

    i feel kind of bad for using mage now /___\

    March 13, 2002 10:02 pm ET (#33)
    gigi
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    641 posts
    05-01-02

    spell discount...
    ...20% discount on using spells...o.....sounds like buying things...- -"..
    so...if 20% discount on a spell that require 100mp...that means only need 80mp..
    and eruption is 25mp..so...with discount is 20mp ..o...
    so i can finally cast 20 erupts in a roll...consider i have that many hp on an int mage (aside from pump pots)...that didnt help much....
    while the con mage can still cast 16erupts..(the old 25mp..no discount)...4erupts dont make up the 100-150hp difference..does it?.....

    hit bonus...
    knight still get the best hit bonus....- -"...that means...even 18dex elves would end up having worse hit bonus than a 12dex knight...great work nc...for making knight another step superior above other classes...
    elf...need hit bonus?...make a dex elf...then u'll have better hit bonus to start with....
    prince?...all prince need is BETTER GEAR...at least a better shield than shield of reflection....prince cant even wear elven shield....not to mention tower shield...and stuck with sor..- -"....
    i dont see anything mage get for hit bonus....

    mr starting bonus...
    elf (12wis) 0%+25%mr = 25%mr at lv 1
    mage (18wis) 10%+15%mr = 25%mr at lv 1
    prince (10wis) 0%+10%mr = 10%mr at lv 1
    ...dont help much on prince....just balanced elf and mage on mr...i think..that's what nc try to test that out...

    hit dmg bonus...
    knight get 1dmg bonus per 10lv ON EVERY WEAPON
    elf get 1dmg bonlus per 10lv ONLY ON BOWS....
    mage and prince(ss) still get nothing - -"...

    another good "knight"-patch i guess this is....
    with some "lame"-side-patch for other classes.....

    GiGi, from dep

    March 13, 2002 10:16 pm ET (#34)
    Elbryan
    Loyal Fan

    180 posts
    01-21-02

    Good analysis by GiGi - I have to agree with her (him?)
    Most koreans seem to play knights anyway, and I see why. The Hit Bonuses are lame for the other classes. Dex Elf hit bonus is negated compared to knights, and elf is forced to use bows for better damage. The AC bonus from dex for all classes is negated because knights get some monster hit bonuses and a damage bonus (with EVERY weapon). Prince gets some (minor) tweaks - but they need more. Mages get MR and spellcasting bonus - but in Lineage they have to melee a lot too...

    March 13, 2002 10:20 pm ET (#35)
    mincho
    Loyal Fan

    3 posts
    02-26-02

    If you play lineage you should know NCI has balanced all classes to be the same (except for princes obviously) what class is better only depends on how good are you with each of them, i play better mage, but probably any of you plays better the knight, so if you lose in a class fight; it will depend on how good you are or how much u can save during your hunts, so you can get better items...

    All of you who posted some offencive coments against a class diferent than the one you prefer, let me tell you..
    learn to play other classes before talk SHIT! about them.

    March 13, 2002 10:22 pm ET (#36)
    mincho
    Loyal Fan

    3 posts
    02-26-02

    Im not saying i am better player than anybody, just dont complain and play what you know how to play

    March 13, 2002 10:32 pm ET (#37)
    Scaleb
    Loyal Fan

    224 posts
    10-24-01

    It seems NCi have decided that con elves are a bad thing and only bow/dex elves should be allowed. I supose that is fair enough, elves are meant to be bow-using creatures....
    And that con mages aren't good either. Well time to start playing our classes truely, str knights, dex elves, int mages ;).
    Char princes??

    Well at least EVERY class has some kind of boost, so really no one can complain.
    I'm just glad NC are making some fairly fair (tho mages seem to have a hard time now) changes to the class balance... dex/ac boost, and now this.

    March 13, 2002 10:48 pm ET (#38)
    xLondonBroilx
    Loyal Fan

    200 posts
    10-02-01

    Glad my mage is 18 int/18 con just in case something like this shows up here :)

    March 13, 2002 11:28 pm ET (#39)
    Etikilam
    Loyal Fan

    381 posts
    02-12-02

    wouldnt an 18 int / 18 con mage be able to cast just as many erupts with the int bonus as a 18wis/18con because of the lack of mana?

    March 13, 2002 11:34 pm ET (#40)
    hannibaln3
    Loyal Fan

    3 posts
    01-13-02

    Gigi ... knights use swords.. if an idiot knight wants to use bow.. yippe.. +1 dmg.. but maybe you meant elf ... which is supposed to use bow... but then again con elfs r trying to match knights...so look at my analasis
    50knight +5 dmg +6 b-kat + haste and brave
    50elf +0 dmg +6 b-kat +haste and waffer
    u see how elf swings faster than knight with waffer and haste... this +dmg kinda boosts knight back up to melee champ .. that is all... and 5 dmg .. being lvl 50 is understandable...

    Poseidon= lvl 61 +8 tsurugi and -73ac(dex bonus) +6 dmg ( dmg bonus) and 30 str when all pumped up is...+7 on str +8 on weapon +6 on bonus and with tsu equals ...

    16+21/10+21 or

    37/31

    hm ... i hate NCI US...



    March 13, 2002 11:38 pm ET (#41)
    FlyZ
    Loyal Fan

    791 posts
    11-11-01

    I think with these bonus.. Poseidon would become 1 step more scarier o.O

    March 13, 2002 11:55 pm ET (#42)
    BlueMasK
    Loyal Fan

    110 posts
    11-07-01

    http://boards.lineage-us.com/cgi-bin/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=Discussions&Number=121629&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&part=

    go to this site read my Lineage: story ...

    March 14, 2002 12:01 am ET (#43)
    Orim
    Loyal Fan

    4 posts
    03-13-02

    Elf get 25% MR bonus? crazy.. mage should get 20% then.. they are the pros.. and elves shoul get hit bonus more often than knights.
    Elves are very agile, but not that magical..

    March 14, 2002 12:53 am ET (#44)
    LadyBritish
    Loyal Fan

    207 posts
    01-28-02

    elves are natural born talented at magic. mages are humans don't know magic till they start studying it. that's the way it's suppose to be in a roleplaying and typical fantazy story... so i think the elves get higher mr at start is brilliant.

    my str/con mage is nurfed. boohoohoo~~~ T.T

    March 14, 2002 01:00 am ET (#45)
    LadyBritish
    Loyal Fan

    207 posts
    01-28-02

    btw i think nc usa will modify this update in attempt to show that they are "original"

    only thing nc usa has done with differs from lineage servers world wide is 2 things. made tsu a 2hs, and have nearly no events other servers can envy.

    HA! can't ban me here can ya? NC =P

    March 14, 2002 01:02 am ET (#46)
    Elbryan
    Loyal Fan

    180 posts
    01-21-02

    Hannibaln..
    You miss the strength difference between elves and knights. Elves have 11-12 str most of the time, and knights have 16+ str (and strength spell from a low level). That itself makes the knight stronger, even with elf wafer. The extra damage should be for bows AND swords for elves, IMHO.

    March 14, 2002 01:11 am ET (#47)
    Alanc
    Loyal Fan

    167 posts
    02-09-02

    mages r just getting more and more disadvantages... no level up bonuses... i think mages should have +1 magic bonus every 3 levels, elfs every 5 levels, princes/princesses every 8 levels.

    March 14, 2002 01:17 am ET (#48)
    L
    Loyal Fan

    481 posts
    01-16-02

    -____- of cux knights are better for sword, or what else will knights be for?
    elf are born naturally attacking fast, and most fairy tales write them using bow
    so they just CAN"T be better off with sword lol, breaking the rule o.o
    o___o too bad mage are human, why do mages have to be human -____-
    good update for high lvl elf get better bow damage ^_^ but i have no elf /.\
    and elves alwayz rape my mage.... mmmmm.... well it's still good
    US will take about a year to think of giving it to us or not anywayz
    since we're just an extra income for their company

    March 14, 2002 01:18 am ET (#49)
    Vail
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    260 posts
    02-27-02

    Oh please. It was not a Knight patch. If it was, then all of Episode 10 must've been for Mages since they're the only ones who can hunt successfully in the Liar of Valakas. Mages need to stop whining about this and that. The fact is that Mages have it the easiest right now, bonuses or not. I can't wait until they do something to Summon. Then maybe you'll have something to complain about. And don't get confused. Disintegrate won't be doing quite enough damage to kill high Level Knights in two hits. And that +3 Str for SOF must really help out alot when your Strength is 10. All of you shouldn't have made those Con Mages...It was never reccomended. Same goes for Elves who use Swords. Stick to the Bows. A good Bow is alot better for hunting anyways. Knights were always the melee champs. How about Level 3 Spells for Prince/ss at Lev 30 though? Aynone?

    March 14, 2002 01:27 am ET (#50)
    Vail
    Loyal Fan

    260 posts
    02-27-02

    Another thing that comes to mind is the current items restrictions. Why can't Prince/ss use EPM, ES, Rapier? Elves can use all of that, and humans are supposed to be physically stronger. How come the supposedly weaker Mages can use ES, but Prince/ss can't? Same goes for ELH. It can fit on everyone's head right?

    March 14, 2002 02:14 am ET (#51)
    FlyZ
    Loyal Fan

    791 posts
    11-11-01

    O yea... with that news on ep 11. it's even stated that it's a mostly mage patch. Just wait a lil o.o

    March 14, 2002 02:37 am ET (#52)
    LadyBritish
    Loyal Fan

    207 posts
    01-28-02

    i don't mind the update if that's what u people are thinking. It's just that i feel left out that my str mage has no additional bonus even though a string of bonus updates came out in korea. we are still ontop after all. muahahaha... ahem... -.-

    only thing i AM complaining about is no lv50 bonus for mage. Summon KBB, Create Scroll, whatever!!! just send it out!!!

    March 14, 2002 07:10 am ET (#53)
    Nitrogun
    Loyal Fan

    229 posts
    03-17-02

    there are no lvl 50 mages on US anymore -.- gentile has deleted his char

    March 14, 2002 07:50 am ET (#54)
    Drow999
    Loyal Fan

    24 posts
    02-06-02

    deleted his char??? Y??? awww.... -.-

    March 14, 2002 08:19 am ET (#55)
    DumbPig
    Loyal Fan

    54 posts
    02-28-02

    ya mage needs some lv50 bonus!!!!!!!!

    March 14, 2002 09:41 am ET (#56)
    Nitrogun
    Loyal Fan

    229 posts
    03-17-02

    i'm almost lvl 48 mage on ken, but it will take me untill summer until i am lvl 50 >.< Then i want bonus ^^

    March 15, 2002 02:18 pm ET (#57)
    aupairKing
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    320 posts
    03-11-02

    I think the bonus should be free Bruno Magli gloves!
    These gloves give COI to former NFL running backs.

    March 15, 2002 04:55 pm ET (#58)
    xTICTACx
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    58 posts
    02-20-02

    all i gotta say is you..ppl are buncha tinkle bells...

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