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October 24, 2001 08:53 am ET - research by amer
heine dungeons
Just a quick half chart I made while wandering around Heine Dungeons. There are 4 levels but I only got to 3 of them before a beholder made dogmeat out of my dogs. 4 times. :(
Floors Name Aggressive
to SOSC
DK?
1f 2f 3f Ratman no  
1f Troglodyte no yes
1f 2f Vakuuk no  
1f 2f Ramia no no
1f Lizardman no no
1f 2f 3f Alligator no no
2f 3f Crabman no  
2f 3f Beholder yes yes

October 24, 2001 03:47 pm ET (#1)
amer
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864 posts
07-11-01

Not really. Vakuuk and Ramia poison you over and over again, which sucks. Ramia takes longer to kill than Vakuuk does, it's almost like fighting an Ogre. Ratman and Lizardman are the same - they just try to hit you alot, so that's also no probelm. Alligator and Crabman are really easy. Troglodyte is easy but hits dogs. I'm mad at Beholder. Stupid things kill dogs first, get them out of the way, then kill you.

October 24, 2001 03:58 pm ET (#2)
Opethal
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58 posts
10-22-01

Seems like sometimes beholders attack dogs sometimes they don't. Because 2 of the 3 i killed didn't dk.

October 24, 2001 04:32 pm ET (#3)
LifeStealer
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275 posts
10-04-01

Maybe they just like the way your dogs taste amer?

October 24, 2001 05:16 pm ET (#4)
Warrior
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34 posts
10-15-01

my bugbears kill new mops very easily, beholder took awhile tho..he has high hp i suppose.

October 24, 2001 05:17 pm ET (#5)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Hmm maybe Beholder is one of those mops that decide who to hit based on who hit it harder, like ungoliant. Perhaps I should try lame little mana staff on it, and instead point blank e-bolt with +1 SP. I'll try that and tell you what happens. ^^

October 24, 2001 05:38 pm ET (#6)
Kandy
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90 posts
10-20-01

Beholder has so much HP and hurts ALOT >_< and it paralyzes you too and continues hurting you if you don't teleporting home... I think it is comparable to Muryan??? Maybe less

October 24, 2001 07:22 pm ET (#7)
ConKnightCon
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2 posts
10-23-01

I know that this hasnt anything to do with this but RKS is now +2 damage except the +1 str now.. Check it out.. It is much better now Try it out..

October 24, 2001 07:37 pm ET (#8)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Can you send me a screenshot of it please? :)

October 24, 2001 07:57 pm ET (#9)
xmagox
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20 posts
10-24-01

the 4f is the underwater world, but is there any deeper floor?

October 24, 2001 08:52 pm ET (#10)
knightspirits
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88 posts
10-02-01

Beholder is CRAZY STRONG... I heard they drop summon around 1/300 chance though o.O//// also,.... is it just me, or did drop rates get lowered? cuz yesterday everything i kill gave me b-tele, now i can't get any

October 25, 2001 02:44 am ET (#11)
Pooch
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103 posts
10-10-01

I took on a Beholder, got frozen after a couple secs, couldn't tele home (not updated hotkeys after update, they didn't work), and my dogs took it out. it took a combined 420HP off my dogs, one dead, one down to 10hp left. ^^ but they won. ;p Underwater Dungeon stuff... Sharks don't DK, Crabmen do Don't attack anything with a Sea Dancer on screen if you're not a mage and wanna live. ^^ They have the same AI as Imp Elders, passive unless you become aggressive towards anything, and then have a range magic attack that hurts. You can't kill with sword, don't bother trying. mages can take them out with a few erupts, and are supposed to drop good spellbooks. Coelecanth drops magic gems, that's all I've seen of 'em... :)

October 25, 2001 03:57 pm ET (#12)
Crazykilla
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26 posts
01-06-02

ur crazy i was with nig and ken server and he owns those sea dancers (im elf with dex spell and i cant even hit them)

October 25, 2001 03:57 pm ET (#13)
Crazykilla
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26 posts
01-06-02

by the way he does not use dex spell either

October 25, 2001 04:27 pm ET (#14)
EdgyAsHell
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128 posts
10-11-01

Knightspirits I did notice a severe decline in MOP drops last night. It seemed to have gone way down and then up just a little below yesterday. Also, none of my friends got the 2 N-Dai and 3 Zelgo that they got yesterday =). So I would say there have been some modifications to the drop rates.<br><br> <font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="red"> <b>EdgyAsHell</b> </font>

October 25, 2001 04:27 pm ET (#15)
EdgyAsHell
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128 posts
10-11-01

damn amer dont strip the html!

October 25, 2001 04:27 pm ET (#16)
EdgyAsHell
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128 posts
10-11-01

=)

October 26, 2001 09:41 am ET (#17)
ash
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23 posts
10-22-01

Really? I own Sea Dancers with my knight. They are naked, so why wouldn't I? :) No really, just bring dogs and hit sea dancers a little til you get a successful hit, then let the dogs do the job. just run behind obstacles for a while.

October 29, 2001 05:44 am ET (#18)
LifeStealer
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275 posts
10-04-01

Beholders take off 20~30 hp per hit, good thing their hp is low. Dunno what type of attack they use though, an elf with -30+ ac and my lvl 28 dob both had the same hp drop when attacked by a beholder.

October 29, 2001 02:42 pm ET (#19)
Crazykilla
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26 posts
01-06-02

i erup sea dancers 1-3 times and they usually die like 3 seconds later from dog...

October 30, 2001 03:01 pm ET (#20)
WolfRider
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2 posts
10-30-01

alligator will DK if pinned in..just a lil note guys

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