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March 12, 2003 03:55 pm ET - research by NC

NCsoft Announces Future Plans for Lineage

Yeah, that's right, a new *class*.

Seoul, South Korea, February 21, 2003-Amid much suspense, future plans for Lineage have finally been unveiled. NCsoft announced plans to launch Part II of Lineage in June with the release of a new episode under the theme Conquest.

Since the release of its first episode Talking Island in September 1998, right up to the most recent release of episode 12 Aden, NCsoft has been servicing Lineage Part I, built around its signature Blood pledge theme. Because the company has kept its future plans for the game discreet, it had aroused the curiosity of game players and industry alike.

Major features of Lineage Part II include the first-ever addition of a new class to the existing four: prince, knight, elf, and wizard. The introduction of a new class will expand the scope of characters players can choose from and deliver a more diverse range of player experiences.

Special dungeons and new monsters will add to the thrill of the game, while added realism will enhance the siege war system, making completely new forms of castle sieges possible.

On the graphics front, in response to gamers’ preference for the current 2D mode over a shift to 3D, Lineage [Part] II will maintain its 2D platform, although improvements in its graphics engine accompanied by an overall graphics renewal are expected to deliver an upgraded interface.

Lineage Part II will be comprised of 6 episodes. The first will be introduced to test servers sometime in June, followed by consecutive releases in 6-month increments over 3 years.

NCsoft is committed to continuing its development of new episodes to reciprocate the outpouring of love shown by game users, credited as the driving force behind Lineage’s growth into a foremost online game leader

March 12, 2003 03:56 pm ET (#1)

Hoggle
Loyal Fan
34 posts
12-22-02

Sweet NEw CLASS wooot!

March 12, 2003 03:58 pm ET (#2)

Bishop
Loyal Fan
42 posts
04-30-02

wonder what it's going to be

March 12, 2003 04:00 pm ET (#3)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Ewww... 6 month releases now.... we've been chopped of an episode per year o.o

March 12, 2003 04:02 pm ET (#4)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

yeah but they might have new mops etc. just added in on a whim, not relying on actual episode update scheduals to make a significant change to the game.

im relieved that there will continue to be new lands to explore, and lineage didnt "end" with aden update.

March 12, 2003 04:04 pm ET (#5)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

Flyz they are completely rewriting the client side of lineage to have 3d graphics, as well as keeping then normal 2d lineage client updated at the same time. I think 6 months isnt that bad. But you gotta remember they are going to want to start focusing on lineage2 a little more.

March 12, 2003 04:04 pm ET (#6)

Hoggle
Loyal Fan
34 posts
12-22-02

BUT NEW CLASSSSSSSSS WOOOOOOT!!!! I CANT WAIT. I kind of want it to be dwarf cuz itd make sense, but if they came up with somthin totally new itd be even cooler, but heck we'll see!

March 12, 2003 04:05 pm ET (#7)

sisyphus
Loyal Fan
56 posts
05-03-02

Wonder why they bagged the 3d release? People dont "prefer" this 2d mode...which is why Lineage is continuing to be one of the last 2d environments out there. Oh well.

BigPope...reread the main article, then my post...then you will see they ARENT developing for both!

March 12, 2003 04:08 pm ET (#8)

Jasuda
Loyal Fan
26 posts
03-13-02

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH new class. I WANT MORE CHARACTER SLOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and I DO prefer this 2D mode. I think 3D will suck.

March 12, 2003 04:09 pm ET (#9)

zinnestro
Loyal Fan
63 posts
05-01-02

That'll be cool its either the engineer or thief class if you notice there weapons on the website. (rifle and ninjas stars) hint hint. Thats cool

March 12, 2003 04:15 pm ET (#10)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

sisyphus' right o.O...
They're bagging 3D mode of lin.

And I thought they had 2 teams of people working on the 2 separate lineages.

March 12, 2003 04:15 pm ET (#11)

lungshou
Loyal Fan
69 posts
06-11-02

Prefer 2D, sorry. That's one reason I'm here. :>

March 12, 2003 04:44 pm ET (#12)

kwiver
Loyal Fan
106 posts
04-07-02

well if they make it look cool 2d like Never winter nights without zooming functions its all good :)

March 12, 2003 04:52 pm ET (#13)

xBlackShadowx
Loyal Fan
2 posts
01-16-03

Im confused didnt they say they were adding this to Lineage part II???
Isnt that Lineage 2 or is lineage 2 and Lineage Part 2 totally different im confused to me I read it as being that lineage 2 (one thats not in us yet) is getting a new class and updates evry 6 months but then again maybe lineage 1 bah im confused...

March 12, 2003 04:57 pm ET (#14)

Malakar
Loyal Fan
66 posts
10-25-02

if they add a new class, it won't be the first time... mage class as added quite a while after lin was out

March 12, 2003 05:24 pm ET (#15)

zBluntz
Loyal Fan
49 posts
10-13-02

T_T And i was looking so forward to seeing Lineage Forever.
I like the 2D thing, but that movie on Lineage Forever taht was posted
some time ago.....DAMN IT LOOKED GREAT!

March 12, 2003 05:32 pm ET (#16)

IntothePain
Loyal Fan
163 posts
11-01-02

SWEET!!!! hope its stronger than knights LOL!

March 12, 2003 05:35 pm ET (#17)

Prince Drathen
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-04-02

I seriously doubt everyone wanted to keep those 2D graphics. The people in Korea must not try too many games. Lineage is way behind the curve! The direction Lineage Forever was heading was great. Not I'm not so sure as to what they're doing with it.

March 12, 2003 05:45 pm ET (#18)

benjo
Loyal Fan
99 posts
10-14-02

2d all the way, not sure if soem comp can show 400 ppl sieging in 3d, with all da effects.

O.o

March 12, 2003 06:17 pm ET (#19)

Elric
Loyal Fan
337 posts
10-29-02

oh, if no 3d lineage2 wait for me ^_^

March 12, 2003 06:19 pm ET (#20)

WaRLoRD
Loyal Fan
92 posts
01-28-02

#13, Lineage 2 and Lineage Part 2 (Also known as Lineage Forever) are Different. Lineage 2 is a new, completly different Full-3D game, where as Lineage Part 2 is still Lineage: The Blood Pledge but just a new class, new lands to explore and monsters to kill, and a new graphics over-haul while still maintaining the 2D nature of the game. Hope this helps :)

March 12, 2003 06:20 pm ET (#21)

Xdragonelf
Loyal Fan
39 posts
01-18-03

dam i ll be like lev 52+ why play new characters T_T

March 12, 2003 06:23 pm ET (#22)

Chum
Loyal Fan
116 posts
10-17-02

new class and monsters, that sounds good. I bet ya the new class is rouge. Just seems like the only class that is missing really.. or maybe a merchant class thing like L2 is gonna have.

March 12, 2003 06:30 pm ET (#23)

thefreak
Loyal Fan
1 posts
10-04-02

awesome i hate 3d mode more computer lag 2d rules!

March 12, 2003 06:34 pm ET (#24)

SkyLin
Loyal Fan
82 posts
04-20-02

2D is why im still here. 3D is good but i perfer 2D it isn't as realistic but thats what these fantasy RPG's are for. Plus some 3D games' graphics totally make me turn away from them cause they are so bad. I like lineage the way it is, if they ever wanted to just keep going on Lineage the blood pledge in 2D i'd be there.
And alot of people perfer this 2D mode though some people wouldn't mind Lineage 3D doesn't mean they don't like 2D.
Sure alot of news from NCsoft now huh?

March 12, 2003 06:37 pm ET (#25)

Toi
Loyal Fan
79 posts
09-21-02

haha new class oor what name ... i guess we'll get to pick a custom hairstyle or something... and considerthat a new 'class' psh... i hope to hell we get something more than a new interface. we've gotten that a few times now and big woop! no one cares give us the ability to look different from other people jeeze! show helms and armors and shield etc etc etc hell show our weapons at least! god :( is that really so much to ask?

March 12, 2003 06:38 pm ET (#26)

JestRique
Loyal Fan
134 posts
05-09-02

i hope with this new class they put in an extra space, because im sure ppl dont want to delete their current chars to play the new class :( (i know i dont)

March 12, 2003 06:55 pm ET (#27)

chipersoft
Loyal Fan
11 posts
06-11-02

I prefer the 2d isometric view that we have now, but I would love to see it updated to a 3d engine like warcraft 3. I love WC3s line-of-sight system, it'd be awesome in lineage.

I see four posibilities for a new class:
1) Dwarf, for the obvious reasons
2) Rouge / Thief
3) Trader, earns money from buying/selling and moving products around Aden
4) BeastMaster, (I outlined this on the main boards) focus on taming & training mops

March 12, 2003 07:05 pm ET (#28)

WindElf
Loyal Fan
16 posts
12-12-02

This announcement doesn't surprise me. I always though it would make no sense for NC to be running two, Lineage-based 3D games at once (Lineage Forever and Lineage 2). From a marketing standpoint, that is just stupid. So decideing to keep Lineage as 2D was an expected move.

Now...just a guess on my part:

info #1: new class being added
info #2: "completely new forms of castle sieges possible"
Conclusion: new class will be the engineer class, and engineers will have the ability to create (from raw materials of some sort) siege warfare machines (catapults, etc.)

March 12, 2003 07:14 pm ET (#29)

Nennius
Loyal Fan
39 posts
09-09-02

Damn, I was looking forward to the "NeverWinter Nights" look..... 3D chars, mops, and gfx effects are really cool when mixed with a 2D isometric maps.....

Hope they make a new interface like the one that's in the video....

March 12, 2003 07:32 pm ET (#30)

WaRLoRD
Loyal Fan
92 posts
01-28-02

BeastMaster would kick ass, I would so make one.

March 12, 2003 07:48 pm ET (#31)

xyhthyx
Loyal Fan
7 posts
02-12-03

I hope the keep the current Lineage client updated for those of us with not-so-great computers.

March 12, 2003 08:40 pm ET (#32)

sisyphus
Loyal Fan
56 posts
05-03-02

These are MY understandings of the games and not to be taken as official word!

I think a clarification is in order. 3d can mean many things. To most of us it is the ability to see something truly in three dimensions. Right now Lineage is a true 2d engine. We get one site and can see height and width but NOT depth. Lineage Forever was going to add the depth into our perspective. It was basically going to be "upgraded" to a Diablo type interface. Lineage II is a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER so to speak. You can look all around and will change perspective as well as line of sight. This indeed will require much more graphically intensive cards. Etc. Using numbers VERY loosely I would guess a 10-15% increase in graphics capability with the pre supposed revamping fo Lineage Forever and at least TRIPLE that to Lineage II.

Remember guys just my opinions. Doesnt reflect Compendium or NCI

March 12, 2003 10:24 pm ET (#33)

Ansaga
Loyal Fan
35 posts
12-25-02

Windelf you are a genious o.o I would have never thought of that and ironically I have been playing Stronghold and I still didn't think of it LoL

March 12, 2003 10:25 pm ET (#34)

WizSnake
Loyal Fan
260 posts
06-21-02

mage with 18int 18char is beastmaster...rouge would be best as dwarf is a mop, and merchant is just dumb in lineage 1 environment since every class can buy/sell any and everything...mayb a merchant class if overenchanting odds got better at high lvls...but other than that its dumb...theif/rouge would b best in my eyes...im not sure what they would b a ble to do but...thats for nc to find out

March 12, 2003 10:40 pm ET (#35)

ultimaslayer
Loyal Fan
221 posts
06-24-02

can't wait~ wonder wat the new classes will be...o.o but isn't 6 months too long for an episode to be released ~_~ i mean these 12 episodes weren't released 12 months apart...speed it up~

March 12, 2003 11:01 pm ET (#36)

brandon
Loyal Fan
86 posts
03-31-02

i hope they put lin2 in usa soon, not like in the middle of the summer... i can NC doing that... like the other meaningless things they have done... i have thought to myself many times... "What do they do all day, nothing?" I am not talking bad about NC, just saying I HOPE THEY COME WITH LIN2, how long do we have to wait! I do respect how good they are keeping lin up and all, i think they do a good job. Well they better, they get paid roughly 35k a month.

March 12, 2003 11:55 pm ET (#37)

dshank
Loyal Fan
34 posts
04-01-02

the new class will NOT be rouge.
heheh
:-P

rouge = A cosmetic used for giving a red color to the cheeks or lips.

(rogue = A deliberately dishonest person; a knave; a cheat.)
;-)

March 13, 2003 12:44 am ET (#38)

Kaiousama
Loyal Fan
49 posts
11-19-02

I'm just waiting for this new class to be the ultimate mage nerf!

Imagine these two classes to nerf mage so much a slime could kill one at level 50.

1. Cleric! All healing spells and curing spells taken from mage and added to a seperate class, making both classes the worst in the whole game!

2. Summoner! Summon taken away from mage, given to new character who has multiple summon spells, each one creating a variety of monsters based on level and the spell used.

Two perfect examples of a way NC would use a "new class" to nerf mages beyond our imagination.

March 13, 2003 12:49 am ET (#39)

UltimateOne
Loyal Fan
41 posts
10-31-02

I sugested ninjas a long time ago. Some people didnt think it was a good idea. But i think they should be given spells like invisiblility, and adena theft stufff like that.

March 13, 2003 01:15 am ET (#40)

evilmidnitebombr
Loyal Fan
2 posts
02-22-03

Has anyone even considered if this will be slaved to Korea like it is now? If so then we will never have the voice to make change. Nerfs will continue and people will keep leaving. I sincerely hope that NCAustin will have autonomy over the game on the North America servers.

BTW, I am playing Lineage because it is 2D. If it went 3D I doubt I would stick around.

March 13, 2003 01:49 am ET (#41)

DeathToCome
Loyal Fan
posts
01-17-03

Why would they put summon on differnt char thats goign to make ppl mad b/c they goign to have to make a new dam char.
going to take 6 months by the time we get that im not going to b play.
i bet ppl wouldnt like 3d mode b/c it would make more lag the 2d

March 13, 2003 02:01 am ET (#42)

Kaiousama
Loyal Fan
49 posts
11-19-02

DeathToCome, perhaps you should lookup Sarcasm in a dictionary -.- If you think I was serious about them taking away summon from mage and putting it this mystery new class...i'd hate to think how you would react so someone selling you an un-identified +10 B-tsu.

March 13, 2003 03:08 am ET (#43)

Eantax
Loyal Fan
3 posts
12-12-02

can we just see the GM in the Giran DM so that we can see them take out valk in one hit plz

Beer is Good

March 13, 2003 04:54 am ET (#44)

random2
Loyal Fan
5 posts
11-08-02

I would die to see lineage part 2 to be fully 3d... because.. itll be just like a Teaser for Lineage2 except lineage2 has a better 3d engine. =) i know my computer CAN take 300 people seiging one castle.

March 13, 2003 06:25 am ET (#45)

Nitrogun
Loyal Fan
229 posts
03-17-02

Nice.... didn't expect to get a new class ever :P

March 13, 2003 06:58 am ET (#46)

LordJustice
Loyal Fan
15 posts
01-02-03

Merchant? Rogue? Thief? Engineer? Dwarf? Whad do you think the new class will be?

March 13, 2003 11:26 am ET (#47)

superdad
Loyal Fan
38 posts
02-20-03

I'm sure not to many ppl will have a pc able to handel the 3d grafics from what I've read about the requirements.
I must say, I think NC could do a much better job of pleasing the customer base they already have. Maybe they do in Korea. Seeing as though the market there is 100 times what it is in the USA, but this is the MOST popular online game in the world. I doubt that is true for market share in the USA however. Meanign of coruse thier running behind other games in the US market. Guess that just makes us less here Less important to them.
As for the new class.. Hmmmm I"m hoping it's something in the relm of Mytholigy myself. Not Dwarf however. Sorry a little brain cramp going on here. (trying to think what it would be that we don't already kill) Oh well, guess I'll just have to adopt the wait and see thing. (never was any good at that)

March 13, 2003 11:32 am ET (#48)

Carol
Loyal Fan
42 posts
01-21-02

I'm glad its staying 2d...

They made UO3D and that was sux... None use the 3d client, its just a waste of time for the dev team, and resources...

If people who play Lin wanted 3d games, they wouldnt be playing. There are many 3d games out there, they play lin cuz they like the old 2d school, wich doesnt mean they can't improve it. UO is 2d and it has way better graphics then Lineage, and a lot of customization too.

March 13, 2003 05:00 pm ET (#49)

FAHAD
Loyal Fan
54 posts
10-12-02

i just have a suggestion to LC ,it would be helpful to put a link to lineage II (forever) as a part of LC where all the news and movies SS and whatever u have is under a mini manu. otherwise good job
i blew my -60 ac base and +8 tsu 2 days ago went into deep deprssion all day even trying to wake myself not believing i did it lol, so lineage forever would bring me back so a lil more fun for me thanks

FAHAD (lvl 49 knight on dep with 2 ac and a dagger)

March 14, 2003 02:41 am ET (#50)

loazeus
Loyal Fan
19 posts
09-25-02

If they are talking about a new class for LINEAGE ONE, then its either the THIEF or TECHNICIAN. The Technician is the only one who is able to weild the gun in Lineage.

March 14, 2003 02:55 am ET (#51)

M3GzX
Loyal Fan
19 posts
10-01-02

Argh! keeping 2d? People on lineage dont know what they want. If it were switched to 3d it would be better overall. Content would come on servers faster and there can be more than just 1 Class put in there could be many classes put in..its easier to edit 3d content than 2d content..thats what most people dont realize...with it remaining 2d, content will remain at a snail's pace.

March 14, 2003 04:04 am ET (#52)

Azzere
Loyal Fan
39 posts
12-11-01

i dont wanna see guns in this game.... it would completely destroy the mythical and magical way lineage is... guns are just too modern for this game

March 14, 2003 06:13 pm ET (#53)

SoulKnightz
Loyal Fan
8 posts
10-11-02

I RMEMEBER HEARING ABOUT AN ENGINEER CLASS!!!! AND A GUN!! OMG GAY GUN! IF THEY PUT A GUN IN THE GAME.. THEY BETTER PUT A FREAKING BAZOOKA IN TOO!!

March 14, 2003 10:00 pm ET (#54)

ryuha
Loyal Fan
3 posts
07-12-02

HEHHE I Wish NC will add Monk as a new class..!! martial artist! cool!!!

March 14, 2003 10:27 pm ET (#55)

VisHilde
Loyal Fan
4 posts
10-13-02

Thankyou #37 for clarifying the difference between ROUGE and ROGUE...was getting on my nerves, lol. I was gonna do it but you beat me to it =P

Anyways, I like 2d better, I'm quite happy with it. Not all of us can afford super comps just to play a game that we have to pay for to begin with. Besides, some 3d games make me ill when I play them =\

And I agree, they better give us an extra char slot when they introduce the new class O.O

March 14, 2003 10:28 pm ET (#56)

SpysLikeUs
Loyal Fan
89 posts
03-04-02

If you consider the game mechanics
this game has not yet explored,
you'd have to make a Ninja class next;

Ninja Class would be;

As Fast as Knight on Brave normally, fast as Pumpkin Costume when on Green
Best with poll/spear weapons, and this class has tohit% bonus.
MOP not hostile in SOSC or COI (accept bosses)
Nurfed -AC like Mage, no bonus pet like Mage, lousey with Bow too.
but higher MR% then even Elf get's, and can use Elf Magic crystals.
Magic level would incriment every 6-Levels for Book Magic,
but every 12 levels for crystal magic.

The Strategy of Ninja would be Hit & Run tactics.

Ninja would Hit MOP, and their superior tohit% and 2x reach
would stun lock MOP longer then usual. Once MOP recovers enough
to hurt Ninja, he'd move at least 2 cells away, then come back
to inflict more stun lock damage until MOP died. Ninja would
come in very handy in stun locking Bosses while other classes
helped finish them off. Ninja would get the same HP/MP/SP
as Elf but have the HP Regen rate of a Knight.

A skilled Ninja would be able to kill 2 MOP's as fast as
most kill one if he'd hit first MOP, run, hit second MOP,
run to first MOP hi, then run to second and so fourth.
Using this tactic he could kill 2 MOPs while taking little
damage since each time the first MOP has recovered from stun
lock the Ninja is working over the second MOP out of reach.

This would be a welcome and balanced new class idea
that would work within the confines of this game.
I'm sure NCSoft will come up with something a lot
more lame, trust me...

Since this is a Korean game, not a Japanese one they'd
probably call them Assasin or Spy class, not Ninja's.

March 15, 2003 04:12 am ET (#57)

drock
Loyal Fan
8 posts
11-07-02

i agree with u vis...i dont want to delete any of my 3 chars. if i did id b heart broken QQ lol
and spy u make a valid point too :)

March 17, 2003 11:35 am ET (#58)

WindElf
Loyal Fan
16 posts
12-12-02

Interesting #56, only...magic? What? Ninjas using magic, and being better at it than elves? No way...in terms of consistency, that just doesn't make sense. Elves are by their very nature magical creatures. To give any other class "elven" spells completely ignores what elven spirit magic is supposed to be. Personally I don't think a ninja/spy class should have any magic whatsoever. Or if they do, give them only a few spells that are neither mage spells nor elf spells, but rather, spells that are completely their own, and related to their profession.

The rest of you ideas sound okay....basically they attack fast but have really lousy ac for protection. Seems like a fair trade-off.

March 18, 2003 01:23 am ET (#59)

SpysLikeUs
Loyal Fan
89 posts
03-04-02

I suppose it could be ninja/spy could gain book magic every 12 levels.
It just seemed to me with all the HOM:s and scrolls in this game now,
even knights are capable of such magic.

I suggested book magic every 6 level's sort of between mage & elf.
I suppose the crystal magic can be left out. Seems such a shame
to keep such useful magic only to that one class, but I suppose the
elven magical mystic may need to be maintained...

BAH, why do we waste out time here.
NCSoft will screw it up, regardless.

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