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July 23, 2003 05:06 am ET - research by amateras

7/16 - Dark Elf base stats changed

Lineage Playforum reports (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=4568) that the base stat distribution for the Dark Elf class had been adjusted on 7/16. Compared to last time, a point has been removed from CHA, WIS and INT and added to the pool for player distribution.

Below is the new initial Dark Elf creation screen.

I can't say for sure, but it looks like players will now be able to create CON 18 or STR 20 Dark Elves.

July 23, 2003 05:07 am ET (#1)

Whipits
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93 posts
01-14-02

can't, cap is 18 (but 18 con is now possible yes)

July 23, 2003 05:11 am ET (#2)

Cody
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510 posts
09-10-02

old :P

July 23, 2003 05:15 am ET (#3)

nhojuhc
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6 posts
07-01-02

Isn't con limited to 15? Or is that old news?

July 23, 2003 05:41 am ET (#4)

McLeans
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137 posts
09-17-02

they should take 9 more points from cha and add em to that pool ^_^

July 23, 2003 05:43 am ET (#5)

MADMADMAN
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2 posts
06-29-03

18 is cap for elf but they start off with less str 20 is real cap

July 23, 2003 05:43 am ET (#6)

lite
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9 posts
05-30-02

Why create a 18 con DE when you can make a 18 dex 19 str DE and kill everything so fast with max ac o.o?

July 23, 2003 06:11 am ET (#7)

Cynrcr
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2 posts
03-08-02

Str can be made up with items & spells, but hp is hp. The longer your hp lasts, the more you can kill.

July 23, 2003 06:14 am ET (#8)

McLeans
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137 posts
09-17-02

#7 No...
If you got base str 19 then with a spell you can get 24.
If you got base str 12 then with a spell you can get 17. ^^

Besides, DE won't even have dex/str spells, so unless you always have a mage/elf around... o_o

(also notice you can get +100hp or more)

July 23, 2003 06:24 am ET (#9)

TeronElf
Loyal Fan
185 posts
09-21-02

max str is 18 and dex 18... can't make 20 str DE

July 23, 2003 06:50 am ET (#10)

Javihut
LC Reporter
180 posts
10-24-02

u can make 20 str de.. if u have 10 points to give out, and base str is 12 u can put 8 points into str which well make it 20 str then u well have 2 points left over...

July 23, 2003 06:57 am ET (#11)

Reboot
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6 posts
06-05-03

Javihut: no, DE's STR is capped at 18, so you can't add more points to STR. STR18, CON18, and one left for others.

July 23, 2003 08:10 am ET (#12)

AsianKing
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65 posts
10-25-02

not bad, look like DE goin to be fun to play with.

July 23, 2003 08:13 am ET (#13)

Elric
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337 posts
10-29-02

18dex 18 str o_O

July 23, 2003 08:14 am ET (#14)

Yoshiki
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667 posts
12-13-02

Are you sure, Mage can make 20str, prince and knight can also, I think its strange De str its capped... Making 20str its just normal elf cant do cuz not enough points..

July 23, 2003 08:18 am ET (#15)

cabroa-style
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45 posts
10-07-02

but remember, u dont have the magic to boost str and dex like normal elfs got
btw i remember de s str was capped at 19 and this was just because u only had 7 points to add =)so maybe str 22 is possible

July 23, 2003 08:38 am ET (#16)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

All classes can get over the 18 str cap. Why would this change for de's?

July 23, 2003 08:41 am ET (#17)

Scaleb
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224 posts
10-24-01

I could have sworn that the DE con cap was 15 (which meant it was pointless to put *any* points into con...). Maybe it's changed now, but I'll be putting all my points into dex/str anyway - killing as fast as possible is the way to spent less pots ^.^

July 23, 2003 08:43 am ET (#18)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Their con was capped at 15 because there were only 7 points to distrubute, now there are 10.

July 23, 2003 09:11 am ET (#19)

MADMADMAN
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2 posts
06-29-03

u can have 20str or 18dex =.=

July 23, 2003 09:17 am ET (#20)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

You can have 20 str and 17 dex ^_^.
You can have 19 str and 18 dex too.

You can have 18 con, but you would only have 15 dex and 12 str. That means you would be weak in what DE's are supposed to be strong in (sword play), but you would have plenty of hp (pointless stat choice = 18 con).

July 23, 2003 09:31 am ET (#21)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

19 str and 18 dex is best.

and like i counted in previous article, a 8 con level 50 dark elf will have above 500hp with items, thats enough.

And i promiss u when dark elfs start complan, they will get to use hom:p and hom:c thus make up spell STR adn DEX and DETECTION. They cant make a class that cant cast detection, think about it. Well, they could if u consider blank scrolls, but still.

July 23, 2003 09:48 am ET (#22)

McLeans
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137 posts
09-17-02

#11 Str isn't capped at 18 for DE -_-
Can at least get 19...

July 23, 2003 09:49 am ET (#23)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Well, DE's can learn lvl 2 spells, so detection is not a concern.

I think I am going to put all my points into wis in my other open slot and see how that goes ^_~.

July 23, 2003 09:50 am ET (#24)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

With the stat selections we have here, the str is capped at 19 for DE's, in Korea, it is capped at 20 now because of the added stat points. I guess some people don't believe that all classes have a str cap of 20, if their stat distribution points allow it.

July 23, 2003 11:04 am ET (#25)

Scaleb
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224 posts
10-24-01

Hey you could have a 21int, or 20wisdom de. Mages could only dream of such stats. Mind you an elf could only dream of having 18dex and 19str...

July 23, 2003 11:08 am ET (#26)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Cap for all stats, except for str, is 18.

July 23, 2003 11:10 am ET (#27)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

*drools* 21 int dark elf and also int shield and amulet, those fire arrows hurt ^^

legolas: ok lvl 2 spells, thx

July 23, 2003 11:11 am ET (#28)

superdad
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38 posts
02-20-03

Hmmm this may be a fun class to play after all?
but so far basicly it seem's like a Str knight that knows magic.
I wonder what thier Bow speed is..?

July 23, 2003 11:16 am ET (#29)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

I think it was reported that their bow speed was between that of a knight and elf. So elves are still the bow kings, but the DE x-bows have a chance to crit during an attack.

July 23, 2003 11:17 am ET (#30)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

Wonder if ppl will race DE to lvl 30, 45 and 50 just to be official first ^^

July 23, 2003 11:37 am ET (#31)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

hehe, maybe...I know I won't...I need to save up pots first...

July 23, 2003 11:47 am ET (#32)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

Another aspect on this issue...

I vote that we do not get another charachter slot for this episode.

U ask me why, and i tell you... if we all just had one charachter to play, we would take better care of it and identify us to it further then today.
Thus making lineage a better game.
No cancel mages, no chaoticmaker elfs, no suicide knights and no inactive royals.

To handle the part about if u do something so whole server hate you, they could add a NPC that can change your nickname for an amount of 30k.

July 23, 2003 11:48 am ET (#33)

Substance
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186 posts
09-25-02

the point is...if u put all points into dex and con....ur hp will go low as hell.cant hunt boss >_<...

PS i think the best stat for DE is 18str 18dex 9con or 11wis

July 23, 2003 11:58 am ET (#34)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

str/dex DE's will be able to do descently against some bosses, but not all.

July 23, 2003 12:00 pm ET (#35)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

So many files left to d/l and i bet only 1/4 of them is any use for me.

The rest is for Mac users and those who choosed exil in LoA, also 1000+ wave files i never listen to with all sound off.

July 23, 2003 12:02 pm ET (#36)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

hehe...I turn the sound off as well. I usually turn on my MP3's when I play.

July 23, 2003 12:03 pm ET (#37)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

if we rank the classes based on how much they own the other fools.

1. Mage
2. Elf
3. Knight
4. Dark Elf
5. Prince

July 23, 2003 12:06 pm ET (#38)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

I think they actually did a test on korean test servers with a lvl 48 DE vs. a lvl 48 con knight and the con knight won with 80-90 hp left. That is pretty close if you ask me. I am getting more and more hopeful that this class will be able to take out knights easier than the other classes.

July 23, 2003 12:33 pm ET (#39)

xZorbisx
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6 posts
04-24-03

wut stats was the DE????? str/dex??

July 23, 2003 01:48 pm ET (#40)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

I can't read Korean, so I don't know all the info.

July 23, 2003 02:53 pm ET (#41)

lungshou
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69 posts
06-11-02

#32 i agree with ability to change name. I would like to just swap with existing char though. Everyone knows me on old char but I rarely play him now. :<

July 23, 2003 03:08 pm ET (#42)

MegaMan
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56 posts
06-26-02

is dark elf out on test?

July 23, 2003 03:54 pm ET (#43)

Whipits
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93 posts
01-14-02

MAX POINTS YOU CAN ATTRIBUTE TO A DE WHEN STARTING OUT IS 18!!! str/con/int/wis/cha/dex all max 18.

July 23, 2003 04:01 pm ET (#44)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

Then why can all other classes have 20 str, if the available stat points allow it?

Why can I make a 19 str DE currently?

Why would NC change things for just one class?

Where did you read that DE's can only have 18 str max?

Who died and made you the king of all knowledge?

July 23, 2003 04:10 pm ET (#45)

K-ZS-M
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925 posts
05-04-02

make 18 wis dark elves

final burn everyone....@_@

July 23, 2003 06:10 pm ET (#46)

Onlyone
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247 posts
02-07-02

I think these stats have been maid wisely by nci, All stats can be 18 to make any of them be full :) Nice choice nci!

July 23, 2003 06:57 pm ET (#47)

Kaiousama
Loyal Fan
49 posts
11-19-02

Well, for those who think you should go CON: You aren't being very wise -.-

This class is practically made for PK and Melee. 18 con = No strength and 15 dex, so melee isn't going to be very good.

20 str, 17 dex. Same +bow damage as 18 dex elf, same sword damage as STR Knight, and you WONT MISS! 20 STR Knights can hit bosses very easily with B-Kat. 18 dex elf can also hit quite often. Now you have a VERY HIGH +hit with those stats, and best possible damage whether you choose bow or melee weapon.

And why not CON? DE's have:
+50 HP Boots, slight ac drop for them.
+30 HP Cloak, same AC as CoP.
+50 HP Belt
+20 HP Ammy
-----------
+150 HP from items in slots that aren't going to kill you if you use +HP items.

Dex Elves GENERALLY have about 140-190 HP less than CON Elves (when comparing level 45+), meaning with those items, you wil have same HP as a CON Elf, with same bow damage as DEX Elf, same melee damage as STR Knight. (AKA: GOD!)

July 23, 2003 08:28 pm ET (#50)

WraithFire
Loyal Fan
54 posts
12-06-02

i'm putting in as much as i can into str then the rest to dex, de's aren't meant to be hunters so whoever said they wanted the hp for hunting should use another char to make cash. with soft ac these guys are probably gonna cost as much to lvl as a knight. if they had braves/wafers they'd be gods, now they are just real strong. ppl that are making de's to lvl 45 for final burn suiciding with 18 wis are gonna hurt bad. if 2 wis de's jump out and final burn even a con knight then their victim is dead. put a +50mp belt on them and each one should have like 350-400 max mp.... ouch!

July 23, 2003 09:26 pm ET (#51)

hilarius
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7 posts
07-23-03

o_o

July 23, 2003 09:33 pm ET (#52)

theperv
Loyal Fan
74 posts
10-11-02

I am going the wis de elf. There are so much potentials for them just like a lvl 50 wis nature blessing elf.

Im tired of seeing nb elves keeping a group of knights/elves nearly invulnerable in sieges.

They arent going to be gods unlike regular water elves in mop hunts but the dark elves can bring back the fun in sieges instead. They'll add a new element instead of a group of well equipped elves with nb elves as back up or a group of fb mages hitting a few keys then venz. Instead of seeing a group of elves taking castle doors, here comes a group of dark elves and they're scrambling out of formation hitting nature blessing like crazy because they've finally met their match.

Now we just need a few brave souls to sign up for kamikazes.

July 23, 2003 09:51 pm ET (#53)

hilarius
Loyal Fan
7 posts
07-23-03

make 19/18 str/dex the best + str ammy,and the belt for de +1 dex so ull have 20 str and 19 dex dark elfve o.o

July 23, 2003 09:51 pm ET (#54)

hilarius
Loyal Fan
7 posts
07-23-03

|^_^

July 23, 2003 09:55 pm ET (#55)

Firebug
Loyal Fan
3 posts
12-08-02

Mages will finally put the manadrain spell to good use on de's.

July 23, 2003 11:31 pm ET (#56)

BeBi
Loyal Fan
7 posts
05-06-03

arh. Here is somethign you should take in to consider.

If yah going for str and dex, you hp will be low.
thus hunting boss is not as good as adding con.

they say with DE con have no effect on lvl up.
But that is wrong. 5-9 hp gains.
if you have low con. you get tthe lower hp gain.
while if you have high con.
your hp lvl up would be better.
It's so simple.
yet no one realse.

The Qusetiong come how you going to play.
BOss hunting, lvling, Siege or over Zelging.

Overall performance. CON be much better of.

July 23, 2003 11:31 pm ET (#57)

UltimateOne
Loyal Fan
41 posts
10-31-02

Man pking is gonna be terrible with these guys. I wouldnt wnat to piss one off. imagine a gorup of them in coi.

July 24, 2003 12:00 am ET (#58)

Converse
Loyal Fan
16 posts
10-08-02

hrmm....wonder what the bonus amount of dogs DE gets?
+2 like elves maybe
if that's the case, make 18 CHA DE and go for 5 dogs
o_o

July 24, 2003 12:55 am ET (#59)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

BeBi, do you not realise that Dark Elves will not have access to str and dex spells? The math comes out that a str/dex DE with good +HP items will have around 500 hp (that is for all DE's with con 8-15). An 18 con DE will have to put all 10 stat points into con; therefore, they will only have 15 dex and 12 str and DE's don't seem to be designed for bow use because their swords are so good. As far as I have seen, I have yet to see a DE screen shot (from korean test server) with points added to con, maybe there will be some that test it out, but con is not the make or break stat for any class.

I have seen str knights beat the crap out of con knights, I have seen dex elves beat the crap out of con elves, I have seen an int/wis mage pound a int/con mage into the ground, and I have seen the opposite of those three examples. It will all come down to a matter of preference, but I seriously doubt you will see many con DE's popping up. 12 str isn't the end of the world, but without the str spell, 12 str is a handicap.

In your questions you raise about what do we want to do...I want to enjoy the class, end mops fast, help in sieges, and help out with boss hunts. With 400-500 hp I can do all that and survive a lot of boss attacks, but not even with 600 hp can I take a hit from some bosses.

Something to think about: With str/dex near 20, you can always add points into con when you hit lvl 51, or get lucky and get constitution elixirs and add 5 to con, but I would rather get 2-3 str elixirs and 2-3 dex elixirs than waste my elixir use with 5 constitution elixirs...

Well, I know there is no changing the minds of those 18 con people, but I will laugh when I see a dex/str DE beat a con DE senseless...

July 24, 2003 01:20 am ET (#60)

FuTyOu
Loyal Fan
73 posts
07-01-02

forget NB elves
just final burn em ~_~ at the same time o_O

July 24, 2003 05:04 am ET (#61)

Tissot
Loyal Fan
180 posts
06-22-02

Only noobs will choose 17 dex as base.

The AC/DEX bonus maximal affect is at 18 DEX, so why sacrifice AC points for a STR point that might not matter (since only each second str point counts).

And wearing a +DEX item dont help that, since AC/DEX is controled by base stats.

July 24, 2003 06:46 am ET (#62)

Whipits
Loyal Fan
93 posts
01-14-02

last time i'm posting this, max for everything as of now is 18. i'm sitting here looking at my character creation screen and seeing how 18 is the cap for all stats. get cocky you little ignorant son of a bitch. IT ALL MAXES OUT AT 18. don't ask why just accept it, at least for now.

July 24, 2003 06:57 am ET (#63)

Haleft
Loyal Fan
53 posts
10-18-02

O.o i wonder 3 or 4 wis DE in a PK party finalburning somebody at the same time... that means 500+ hp dmg OMG !!!
CON DE are pointless... if we make high DEX, the ER + the spell UNCANNY DODGE will make us "unhittable"...i thought u all miss that ^^
STR is the aim

July 24, 2003 07:50 am ET (#64)

Yoshiki
Loyal Fan
667 posts
12-13-02

#37 Tissot that u only play mage dosnt means mage its best or that only 1 slot its needed. Why u rank De 4th place? U played it already? BTW Can you stop flooding the posts please. U Got 166 posts for 3 articles man.
#62 Whipits what game you testing it? Lineage or another game? Cuz I make Knight 20str Mage 20Str Prince 20Str, Elf, got only points till 18 -_-
#17 Scaleb cap was 15con cuz u only got 7points to distribute b4, now they taken 3 from cha,wis and so u get 10.
#52 I Agree with you! Sign up the Kamikaze pledge! kekeke

July 24, 2003 08:42 am ET (#65)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

Okay, whatever you say, Whipits...We shall listen to thee, you almighty god of knowledge...

I was just in my character creation screen yesterday and I made a 20 str mage, prince, and knight, I also made a 19 str de and an 18 str elf. I guess you are right, all stats are capped at 18.

Well, I am wrong and you are right...

July 24, 2003 09:00 am ET (#66)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

Yoshiki: u have been declared stupid so many times by now, and your words r still poison.

July 24, 2003 09:52 am ET (#67)

Reboot
Loyal Fan
6 posts
06-05-03

......

DE's STR is capped at 18, you can't add MORE points to it while creating char. That's it. I have a STR18, DEX18, and CON9 DE. Of course I want STR20, but sorry, NCSoft doesn't allow you to add more points behind 18 for STR.

I know other classes can add up to 20 for STR, but just not DE. It has been this way since Build 30716.

July 24, 2003 09:57 am ET (#68)

Daiju
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27 posts
06-21-03

July 24, 2003 09:58 am ET (#69)

Daiju
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27 posts
06-21-03

Yoshiki...
Tissot shares useful information, where you just run your mouth like a fool. Do us all a favor and just don't post that kind of badgering. Tissot has earned his right to have an opinon, and you don't have to read it if you don't want to. I for one think he's totally right.
I did it the hard way, starting out with a dex elf... trust me the mage is better, I wish i had made it first long ago so I didn't struggle so much. Oh I still enjoy playing my elf, but even at lvl 24 I was making 20-50k per poly with Mage.
Don't bad mouth people who are only trying to share thier experience.

July 24, 2003 10:04 am ET (#70)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

So, you have downloaded the update from the Korean Test server because my current build is 30527 and I can get a DE's str to 19. If Whipits would have said that it was inplace on the Korean Test server and showed that he downloaded the update from that server, then we would have believed him. I won't believe it until I see it though.

Instead he decided to insult us and be rude about it.

July 24, 2003 10:40 am ET (#71)

w00tage
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43 posts
11-21-02

sluta skriva Tissot,din lilla j�vla tjuv ingen vill h�ra vad du s�ger.

July 24, 2003 11:22 am ET (#72)

vL
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23 posts
05-06-02

i think final burning can miss..not sure tho

July 24, 2003 12:34 pm ET (#73)

Darksideex
Loyal Fan
9 posts
10-20-02

DE Str aint caped u can alrdy see them on the char creation screen but the stats aint been changed to match this post...

July 24, 2003 12:59 pm ET (#74)

Yoshiki
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667 posts
12-13-02

Tissot and Daiju call me stupid and so, but its no problem I just gave my point. He shares information? It seems to my only its only his opinion, he said what he thought, I did same, but I am stupid and foolish for doing that. I think articles its what gives information and because of that I do comment it and reply to others posts. Am I wrong for doing that? I dont insulted anybody but if I hurt someones pride/ego, come on, Im sorry.

July 24, 2003 01:58 pm ET (#75)

True_egg
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25 posts
09-13-02

LINEAGE 2 IS WICKED AHAHAHA. After 2 years of waiting I can finally leave you people behind ^_^ muhahahahaha...

Lineage 2 - Eggx (Dark elf fighter -> dark elf assasin)

LATES

July 24, 2003 03:39 pm ET (#76)

Daiju
Loyal Fan
27 posts
06-21-03

That's kewl Yoshiki.
Daiju is a lvl 47 strength Prince
MY POINT: see me getting upset over Tissot's ranking me at bottom of list? Of course not...
Emotion can be read into text when it's not there, but you seem way to upset to me. Of couse, I still read your opinions without complaint... could you turn down the outrage?

Anyway the topic is DARK ELVES. (sorry everyone^^)

I still like idea of 18 dex / 17 wis, I think #52 said it best. I'll be stuck to the Bow but AC always helps. My only doubt is that perhaps the Dark Elf will not have "enough" resist to be the Mage's assasin... if not he'd make an excellent support player, I'd wager.
We shall see.

July 24, 2003 03:54 pm ET (#77)

Samwise
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57 posts
05-07-02

Everyone dun forget you cannot kill someon with final burn. Even if you have 2 ppl final burn someone in a row they will have at least 1hp at end.

July 24, 2003 04:48 pm ET (#78)

Whipits
Loyal Fan
93 posts
01-14-02

ugh, you're so dumb. i just get frustrated at retards when i tell a simple little FACT and you ppl get butthurt about it. as of right now those who can actually make and play de don't have one with any stat above 18 thank you.

July 24, 2003 08:48 pm ET (#79)

Reboot
Loyal Fan
6 posts
06-05-03

Darksideex:

You really don't get it, do you? STR is 12 and you have 10 points to distribute. Of couese we all want to set STR to 20 (means 8 points to it), but it is capped at 18. Now wake up.

And for others, Yes, STR was capped at 19 in pre-Ep.13 client build but NCSoft has changed it to 18 since Build 30702.

July 24, 2003 09:31 pm ET (#80)

DumbPig
Loyal Fan
54 posts
02-28-02

yea they will have 1 hp at the end but if just 1 more knight/mage/elf hits him he is gone.

July 25, 2003 12:42 am ET (#81)

Darksideex
Loyal Fan
9 posts
10-20-02

heh if 1 any thing hits them they dead (dogs?)

and Reply to Reboot: ok so why is DE only class that has a 18STR cap
and to me that dun mean ne thing i was gunna make it 18 STR 18 DEX and rest into CON

July 25, 2003 12:47 am ET (#82)

Darksideex
Loyal Fan
9 posts
10-20-02

reply to post # 56
if u max out ur CON yes u maybe able to take a couple hits from a boss
but u would be spending all ur time just trying to hit them with only 10 STr and 15 Dex...

AND even if u do hit them it wont be for very much dmg with stats like that...

July 25, 2003 09:53 am ET (#83)

Daiju
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27 posts
06-21-03

Darksidex Do you really think a con of 9 has any real advantage over 8?

July 25, 2003 10:53 am ET (#84)

Darksideex
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9 posts
10-20-02

slightly faster regen
what would u put last point into...?

July 25, 2003 01:45 pm ET (#85)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

Like I said, Reboot, we are not in build 30720 yet, we are in 30527. That means we don't have the update here yet, we will soon, but it isn't here yet. Ok, so Str is capped at 18 for DE's, I'll just place the rest in dex and con.

Whipits, why can't you be nice about this in any way, shape, or form? If you downloaded the Korean Test client, all you had to do was say that it is like that there. How many people would have contested you then? I wouldn't have, but you just came out and said it was capped at 18 without explaining to us how this was discovered. And ignorance is a strong word for this topic because we were going by what was on our servers not what is currently on the korean test server. The definition of ignorance may be not knowing, but most of us only care/know about what is on our servers. We may not be in-the-know about the Korean test server, but I am still partially informed, so I am not ignorant, I am just hard-headed :P. Something you would be wise to do next time, think before you speak and support your statements.

July 25, 2003 08:58 pm ET (#86)

Murond
Loyal Fan
78 posts
02-06-02

w00t! 18CON DE for me

i've read somewhere that DE's bow attack speed is about halfway between prince and elf (2 fastest bow users), so it is still slower than an elf. however, put that DE in scout morph, and bam, you've got the same speed. anyways, why use a bow when you've got double swords that attack extremely fast? especially if you get silver ones. silver double swords would DESTROY any undead real quick. it's just my opinion that anyone who plans to mainly melee should have 18con (or max str....but thats not as good as con IMHO).

and to the person who said earlier that an 11con DE can have 500+ hp at 50+ with items, why not have an 18con DE with 650+ with items, and add your points into dex or str?

of course, i've said this all without playing the class once, so who knows which'll be the best combo. i'm gonna play around with a few different combos before i settle down to the one i like.

July 26, 2003 09:28 am ET (#87)

Daiju
Loyal Fan
27 posts
06-21-03

I wish poeple would stop talking about Lin2... Lin2 is the death of this game. All you casual players GO and shut up!!!!! That's what your kind does scrables around looking for something new.
I for one am old enough now to know the coming death of a good game when I see it. I know many of you don't understand, and that's fine... I'm not going to bother trying to explain it.

July 26, 2003 02:43 pm ET (#88)

TeronElf
Loyal Fan
185 posts
09-21-02

dark elf so unbalanced zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

July 26, 2003 02:49 pm ET (#89)

Murond
Loyal Fan
78 posts
02-06-02

it really is.... even though it looks AWESOME.

i think if they are adding all this stuff for DE, they need to add just as much for all the other classes. there are so many things they could do

July 30, 2003 03:55 am ET (#90)

Genesis
Loyal Fan
19 posts
07-21-03

I dont think the double swords are that good all the matches de vs knight they all used claws, claws do seem bout same in small mop but double swords weak in large mops. dama claw 16/14 its like having a tsu and a kat all in one but better and lighter. i wonder what de bonus will be, they should get some melee bonus like knights +1damage every 10 lvls and +1 to hit every 3 lvls

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