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July 10, 2003 04:21 am ET - research by amateras

Episode 13 Lightning Round!

Assorted items from Lineage Playforum reporting on the Korean Test server:

http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=4511

The exit from Silence Cave has been moved from DV to the north Large Wasteland.

http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=4516

Castles now give HP recovery. Also, a golem dropped Headband of Darkness which is AC -1, safe to +4 and gives MP regen (a WIS 11 Dark Elf gains 5 MP per tick with blue and 7 MP per tick with blue and headband)

http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=4499

A Silence Cave Spartoi dropped Robe of Darkness which is AC -5, safe to +6 and gives HP regen (a CON 8 Dark Elf gains 1 HP per tick and 6 HP per tick with robe)

http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=4527

A player did some tests with a +9 Damascus Claw. On a level 48, AC -46 player, 10 hits with no enchants took off 250 HP. Using Armor Break and Shadow Fang, it took off 210-320 HP.

Also, Bring Stone has been changed from 10 MP to 5 MP.

Finally, tests also show that Final Burn takes off the amount of MP you use in HP, plus 2-3. So, if you have 200 MP, you will inflict 202-203 HP damage with Final Burn. (Corrections made -am) We'll test on the US Test server, to see if there is a significance to the +2/+3

July 10, 2003 04:23 am ET (#1)

irre
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15 posts
10-13-02

A Silence Cave Spartoi dropped Robe of Darkness which is AC -5, safe to +6 and gives HP regen (a CON 8 Dark Elf gains 1 MP per tick and 6 MP per tick with robe)

u mean HP regen/tick?

July 10, 2003 04:42 am ET (#2)

IntothePain
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163 posts
11-01-02

yes irre its a typo~

July 10, 2003 04:42 am ET (#3)

IntothePain
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163 posts
11-01-02

i wonder if its armor or cloak... robe usually is cloak but sometimes armor...

July 10, 2003 04:44 am ET (#4)

Elric
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337 posts
10-29-02

cool ^^

July 10, 2003 04:46 am ET (#5)

BWolf_Argento
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5 posts
10-11-02

A -5 ac safety to 6, must be an armor.

And still dont get very well about the final burn spell. But anyways... I CANT WAIT TO EP.13 COMES HERE T.T

July 10, 2003 04:50 am ET (#6)

uselessmitch
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132 posts
06-21-02

*Finally, tests also show that Final Burn takes off the amount of MP you use in HP, less 3*

I wonder if thats only for dark elfs
if its for mages mages will kick ass in sieges (to kill someone)

July 10, 2003 04:58 am ET (#7)

McLeans
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137 posts
09-17-02

Final Burn still leaves u with 1 hp left? =/
Else a wis DE would be fun^^
get 500 mp... hehehehehehehehe o_o

Anyways, it leaves u with 1 hp left, right?

July 10, 2003 05:01 am ET (#8)

IntothePain
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163 posts
11-01-02

i did lvl up calculator with 18wisdom elf which i think dark elves would get same mp as... and 18 wis at lvl 48 would have around 300mp... which is still enuf to end mage/elves... so i think alot of people are going to go 18 wisdom...
but me~ im going 18dex 16str =) i wanna lvl up!

July 10, 2003 05:09 am ET (#9)

uselessmitch
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132 posts
06-21-02

lol.. #7 it clearly says it leaves you with 3 hp...

July 10, 2003 06:10 am ET (#10)

phil
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147 posts
04-05-02

wooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooo Castle Regen ^_^.

July 10, 2003 07:39 am ET (#11)

Shinoda
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66 posts
03-17-03

Moved to wasteland? B-S! That sucks. No one likes a challenge anymore?

July 10, 2003 07:43 am ET (#12)

Shinoda
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66 posts
03-17-03

#9-
No... I think they are talking about the damage you do to other characters... I dont know what hp you end up with, but If you spend 200 mp for 197 worth of damage, I hope you're not left with 1 hp.... You would die in a second.

I dont get it o_o

July 10, 2003 07:44 am ET (#13)

Yoshiki
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667 posts
12-13-02

oh man thats awesome damage on the claw...

July 10, 2003 07:58 am ET (#14)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

Magic resistence%, elemetal resistence% and another factor hit% better help against Final Burn.

July 10, 2003 08:42 am ET (#15)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Amer, look at the calculations on playerforum...The MP of the caster is 110 and does 113 damage to the target not 107. That means it does current MP + 3, not current MP - 3.

July 10, 2003 09:05 am ET (#16)

mshah2k
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58 posts
12-05-02

That spell is useless except in very rare circumstabnces....

You do 200 damage but you have 1left h, and you die in next hit, ur barely done casting the spell and u die next hit.

It will be useful if someone else is on the guy, you are final burning, and then you can final burn them from behind, and drink pots quickly before they turn around to hit you.

But its soooooo dangerous....If your 49, you dont wanna lose exp like that cause if you get hit with even a dagger once before you can drink pots, ur gone.

July 10, 2003 09:17 am ET (#17)

Jaire
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74 posts
02-12-02

Or....concept....team work. A mage could full heal immediately after casting final burn.

But if someone is going to use final burn, they are probably using it in a sneak attack and are ready to immediately use a pot after casting.

July 10, 2003 09:18 am ET (#18)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Go to these sites:
http://image.playforum.net:8080/column/10051004/4527/2.jpg
and
http://image.playforum.net:8080/column/10051004/4527/3.jpg

Those are result pics of final burn, note it is not current MP - 3, but it is MP + 3.

July 10, 2003 09:21 am ET (#19)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

I don't know if MR would help resist final burn because they did show final burn end a mage in 1 casting.

Go to this site for the video (remember you need DivX to view it): http://www.templar-gaming.com/lineage/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16188&highlight=Final+Burn

I think the link to the video might be dead.

July 10, 2003 09:58 am ET (#20)

mshah2k
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58 posts
12-05-02

"Or....concept....team work. A mage could full heal immediately after casting final burn."

Or.....concept....time..even if the timing was almost perfect (which is doubtful in mmorpg), even a single hit will kill you. The exp cost that you would incur by doing this is too great.

July 10, 2003 10:42 am ET (#21)

WindElf
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16 posts
12-12-02

That's the point everyone...final burn is not supposed to be a spell you use again and again. (Thus the name, "final".) It is basically a kamikaze/suicide spell.

Don't forget, dark elves are supposed to be assasins...not an alternative form of firestorm mages for sieges.

July 10, 2003 11:28 am ET (#22)

Gannondalf2
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5 posts
02-27-03

o_o......Coming up in the new Episode 14 is dun dun dun....the playable Death Knight class!!...no longer wil you have to wait til level 52 to look like a death knight!!!!!( dreaming) i wish!!!!

July 10, 2003 11:36 am ET (#23)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Well, the Dark Elf class does not look like the dark elf morph. It doesn't shoot arrows as fast either. Dark Elves only have an advantage because they can use claws, x-bow, 2 sword, class specific weapons. The thing to remember, they don't seem to be able to use shields.

You can't compare the Dark Elf morph and the Dark Elf class because you are comparing apples to oranges.

Kthxbye.

July 10, 2003 12:16 pm ET (#24)

Malachite
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3 posts
12-20-02

yikes take like 4 of these DEs with that minor invis spell, detect them out and final burn someone. Kill mostly everyone in one second. kinda unbalanced i think, but neat.

July 10, 2003 12:38 pm ET (#25)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Yes, that would be a nice PK party. I would rather hunt chaotic ppl with 4 lvl 45+ DE's than PK lawful ppl.

July 10, 2003 01:14 pm ET (#26)

Valerius X
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21 posts
04-28-03

Food for thought....I wonder what Level 50 bonus DE will get? I bet its something a lot better than the elf ROTC effect!

July 10, 2003 01:17 pm ET (#27)

Chum
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116 posts
10-17-02

just when you thought firestorm mages were the most annoying parts of seiges.. now you will see 10 darkelves pop out of nowhere exploding on lvl 52+ people and killing them instantly, giving them no defense.

July 10, 2003 01:27 pm ET (#28)

TheCollector
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351 posts
09-07-02

and here i thought kamakaze was a japanese word. silly!

July 10, 2003 01:44 pm ET (#29)

L
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481 posts
01-16-02

sounds good o.o;
must be hard to get then lol

July 10, 2003 02:03 pm ET (#30)

FlaRrRr
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103 posts
06-06-02

is final burn a close range magic such as the curse spells or is it long range like sunburst?

July 10, 2003 02:34 pm ET (#31)

Kishi
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8 posts
02-18-02

Probably 1-cell.

July 10, 2003 02:50 pm ET (#32)

KamiKazi
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34 posts
01-13-03

zzz DE final burn use invis spell they get so duh

July 10, 2003 03:45 pm ET (#33)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

From the looks of it, it is more than 1 cell, it may be 2-5 cells.

July 10, 2003 07:49 pm ET (#34)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

Final Burn so good
but watch them not put it into the game when released on live servers
or drop from bosses only meaning it is going to COST alot

we'll have to see

July 11, 2003 08:02 am ET (#35)

mshah2k
Loyal Fan
58 posts
12-05-02

Yea, 10 DE will pop out and insta kill a level 55 knight. But then his friend, mr. mage standing 2 feet away, casts one fireball, and you have 10 dead dark elves!

July 11, 2003 02:22 pm ET (#36)

Nimuialwing
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23 posts
01-31-03

10 Dark Elves cast Final burn on one knight a good tactic? If that knight is the last one standing then yes, otherwise no.

You see, Final Burn drains ALL HP-1 and ALL MP-1. Damage is based on the REMAINING MP. So a Dark Elf can have 200 MP, but if he only has 50 MP left he will only do 50+1~3 damage, not the full 200. It will be hard to keep your MP at maximum all time, because u spent MP's on other spells too, it's easily drained, so a good tactic is needed when using Final Burn.

Greetingz,

Nimuialwing

July 11, 2003 06:08 pm ET (#37)

ArthurDent
Loyal Fan
26 posts
09-21-02

Anyone else seem to think of the boss hunting aspect of final burn? If Final burn works on bossess the possibilities of these kamikaze warriors are endless. Furthermore if the range is 2-5 cells and not just one then there may be a few serious balance issues for one reason... Lindvior being huntable. Surround Lind several times over and on the count of 3 all the DEs let loose one big wallop. If all the DEs had 200 mp at the time, and all casted at the exact same instant. ~30 Dark Elves could end Lind instantly. If successful 1 dead dragon 0 dead dark elves. Thats if they all hit at the exact same instant.

July 11, 2003 08:06 pm ET (#38)

mshah2k
Loyal Fan
58 posts
12-05-02

Nah, Lind would resist 29/30 of them.

July 14, 2003 12:38 am ET (#39)

Firebug
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3 posts
12-08-02

Manadrain might be usefull now =]

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