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May 15, 2003 04:37 pm ET - research by Briel
Korean Test Server updates: Monsters and Items
We found this over at Lineage: The Fact (http://netcity7.web.hinet.net/UserData/actc/news/200305/20030515.html):

Monsters and NPCS
Balrog FollowerLamuda
DicardingAncient Man

Also mentioned but with no graphics: Unicorn, Vampire, Guardian Armor and Seer.

Items
Fire Demon Sword Fire Demon Eye Fire Demon Foot Fire Demon Heart
Death Blade Fire Blade Fire Bow Golden Sceptre Crystal Ball of Mana
Ancient Key of Royal Ancient Key of Knight Ancient Key of Elf Ancient Key of Mage Key of Apocalypse

Unknown Items:

May 15, 2003 04:38 pm ET (#1)
haximus
Loyal Fan

2 posts
09-12-02

looks awsome to bad i will never play lineage agian :/

May 15, 2003 04:38 pm ET (#2)
deathskye
Loyal Fan

81 posts
01-09-02

darn. T.T they roxors

May 15, 2003 04:40 pm ET (#3)
DIVERSAL
Loyal Fan

138 posts
10-06-02

a bow isa sword?

May 15, 2003 04:42 pm ET (#4)
PowerRangers
Loyal Fan

posts
04-28-03

nooooooo...i wanted first postttttttttttttt.......

May 15, 2003 04:44 pm ET (#5)
WooT
Loyal Fan

14 posts
10-24-02

Awsome! can someone pls post where u can read more in english?? or anyone knows what the items give in dmg and so on? ^^...tyty

May 15, 2003 04:47 pm ET (#6)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

hmm..... imp elder o.O
Some sort of ring... maybe more variety in marriage rings? Belts... and new meats!

May 15, 2003 04:48 pm ET (#7)
reddragon
Loyal Fan

3 posts
10-12-02

death blade looks so cool x_o

May 15, 2003 04:49 pm ET (#8)
Cody
Loyal Fan

510 posts
09-10-02

omg death blade rox o.o;; but it looks like knights will have to do something with prince and there aint much lvl 50 prince...o.o;;

May 15, 2003 04:51 pm ET (#9)
PowerRangers
Loyal Fan

posts
04-28-03

lamuda looks funny...hahahahahahhaha

May 15, 2003 04:51 pm ET (#10)
MrTiM
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-20-02

wohoo! ^^
Imp Elder gotten fried and started to follow Balroq? :D

May 15, 2003 04:52 pm ET (#11)
EvilAngel
Loyal Fan

38 posts
11-04-02

woha! amazing wepons! maybe fire bow shots fire arrows? 0.o

May 15, 2003 05:01 pm ET (#12)
PowerRangers
Loyal Fan

posts
04-28-03

how do i find a prince/princess for my quest!? T_T....
someone make a lvl 50 prince/princess...quick quick!!

May 15, 2003 05:10 pm ET (#13)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

wonder if the lvl 50+ characters can help other quest dwellers on their quests as well
even after they completed it on their own that is

seems like u need to collect all 4 pieces of valok to obtain a weapon
maybe since unicorn is back int he game, we will see unicorn horn like back in beta days?
vampire....more undead mops which r easy to kill with mith/silver/ori weapons hehe
Guardian Armour? hmmm.....
those imp looking devil creatures would probably follow valok around and cast magic.....

dammit

we need more info!
lol

I swear
Lamuda is an archon from starcraft!

May 15, 2003 05:12 pm ET (#14)
Rincewind
Loyal Fan

279 posts
02-12-02

o.o

May 15, 2003 05:20 pm ET (#15)
Prince Drathen
Loyal Fan

223 posts
12-04-02

The Unicorn was never in the game to begin with, so how can it be back in the game?

NCSoft is getting lazy. We keep seeing more and more recycled item/monster animations...too bad.

May 15, 2003 05:46 pm ET (#16)
TheCollector
Loyal Fan

351 posts
09-07-02

bahaha instead of just "meat" you can now choose between the LIGHT meat or the DARK meat muahaha turkey day~

er....

hey at last the demon blah and fire weapons look new graphics. altho that first sword in the unknown pics looks like a mailbreaker someone urinated on. yay~

May 15, 2003 05:54 pm ET (#17)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

he means the unicorn horn. 12/12 2-handed. it was dropped by orcs and stuff LONG ago..

May 15, 2003 05:55 pm ET (#18)
Rincewind
Loyal Fan

279 posts
02-12-02

That's the sprite for a dwarvish short sword, not a mailbreaker. o.o

May 15, 2003 06:00 pm ET (#19)
loazeus
Loyal Fan

19 posts
09-25-02

Unicorn horn yes was a weapon when lineage first started, but acourse few would actually know.

May 15, 2003 06:01 pm ET (#20)
loazeus
Loyal Fan

19 posts
09-25-02

Perhaps you dont need another lvl 50, perhaps they were lazy and combine the key for 2 classes

May 15, 2003 06:33 pm ET (#21)
Hejsan
Loyal Fan

162 posts
01-20-03

Cool

May 15, 2003 06:58 pm ET (#22)
Substance
Loyal Fan

186 posts
09-25-02

o.o
nice

May 15, 2003 07:14 pm ET (#23)
Pepsiman
Loyal Fan

1 posts
04-18-03

I think the Demon things like Demon sword etc etc are gonna be a set and u can poly into that mop ^_^

May 15, 2003 07:25 pm ET (#24)
FreaX
Loyal Fan

158 posts
11-13-02

nah pepsiman, those are probably quest items only...the kind needed to complete the quest...

May 15, 2003 07:42 pm ET (#25)
RKZ
Loyal Fan

35 posts
05-04-03

great! o.o
i wanna be the art man of LC~ ~.~

May 15, 2003 08:56 pm ET (#26)
Shah
Loyal Fan

87 posts
06-10-02

that sword neither looks like an mb nor a dwarvish sword, it looks more like a silver sword

May 15, 2003 08:57 pm ET (#27)
Pepsiman
Loyal Fan

1 posts
04-18-03

FreaX well if u think about it The Sword is the sword :P, the eye is the helmet, the feet are the boots and the Heart is the armor...hehehhe im just thinking outside the box t.t

May 15, 2003 09:00 pm ET (#28)
Haleft
Loyal Fan

53 posts
10-18-02

O.O #16 lol
demon pieces seems to be like Diablo II 3rd world quest(khalim's will)
eek, how revolting! we'll need horadric cube or something like?
damn dude, again, nothing interesting for mages (i hope the yellow/orange new pots will be some kind of braves for princes/mages)

STOP THE CLASSES NERF!~!~!~!

May 15, 2003 09:03 pm ET (#29)
Haleft
Loyal Fan

53 posts
10-18-02

#13, i agree...seems to be an archon( maybe air elemental iffrit)
#27 pepsiman, where are the gloves of the set?

May 15, 2003 09:08 pm ET (#30)
Firien
LC Reporter

93 posts
11-26-02

Hey Taera... vial of soy sauce and meat with soy?

I'd guess the unknown golden sword and item next to it are part of the quest to get the death sword and the sceptre, eg that's before and after being imbued with holy magicks, ie the quest item and the reward.

Gold/silver/ruby/emerald rings? + to a stat maybe? eg ruby is str, gold is cha, silver is dex and emerald int, matching KPEM

So many keys... I bet they're for higher levels of TOI

May 15, 2003 09:36 pm ET (#31)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

Death blade looks cool o_O~~~ I want~! Firien the rings might be more wedding rings too o_o Ruby and Emerald the other too look like LOTR rings o.o~

May 15, 2003 10:52 pm ET (#32)
Darklight
Loyal Fan

35 posts
10-19-01

so only chinese test server got these? koreans didn't? those pictures doesn't look like in game pictures~! how do we know chiense people just lying?

May 16, 2003 12:13 am ET (#33)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Darklight: This was on a Chinese website referring to the Korean Test server.

May 16, 2003 12:39 am ET (#34)
Darklight
Loyal Fan

35 posts
10-19-01

hmm ic. any korean site got this info? i wanna read it in korean x.x

May 16, 2003 02:40 am ET (#35)
VisualAMP
Loyal Fan

1 posts
04-05-03

hahahaha I would laugh if these were only implemented on the loa sever. If you rememeber the last letto and captstum interview they said a BIG BIG update comming to loa. MORE sowrds for knight and so forth. Most of tese items are in the game but not released yet. USE "$#### 1 - 5000 I think works. You will get item messages like Blood Sword, Staff of Water god and really neat stuff. If you know more about lineage its one of the lin files on your hard drive =P

BTW the lvl 10 spells are under "$#### slots too think around the 700 number. So if anyone asks will they ever release the lvl 10 spells? The answer will be, yes they are somewhere hidden in the NC's sever of nothiness and it's there to tease you. ><

May 16, 2003 03:27 am ET (#36)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

#35 that file is encrypted now

May 16, 2003 06:21 am ET (#37)
Firien
LC Reporter

93 posts
11-26-02

Doomscythe - more wedding rings? If they're better than diamond, they'll have more charges and will cost a ton. Usually ruby and emerald aren't better than diamond, so they'd hold between 2 and 4 charges... or do something different? Like the Mage's non-existent Reflecting Pool spell, you get to see what your partner is doing... hehe

May 16, 2003 06:59 am ET (#38)
superdad
Loyal Fan

38 posts
02-20-03

Just watch Ten months of saving for a TSU, and they'll bring something into the game that drops the price in half on me again. Can I hold out on buying it? I dunno...?

May 16, 2003 08:17 am ET (#39)
phil
Loyal Fan

147 posts
04-05-02

I bet firebow is a piece of crap.....
Probably like a Yumi with Fire Weapon, only on a bow instead of sword....


MAKE SAYHA BOW EASIER!!!!

May 16, 2003 08:18 am ET (#40)
Glorfindel
Loyal Fan

72 posts
11-24-02

doesnt the level 45 quest give you a "Piece of ancient key"? or something like that? maybe all 4 classes have to work together to get their keys and then compine to make the key of apocalypse that will open the door(s) to Valok? like mage and elf make theirs and knight and royals make theirs...?

anyways, They better make the knight swords 2-handed otherwise the knight will be way overpowered......oh wait, they already are! (grumble) if these arnt 2-handed, the tsu should go back to being 2hand like it should have been all along.

lol #16

and yes #15, recycled images are bad....they need new graphics people.

May 16, 2003 08:38 am ET (#41)
ILOVESORIM
Loyal Fan

15 posts
04-12-03

wooo looks like the "one ring".. death blade looks even better than ds.

May 16, 2003 09:09 am ET (#42)
zizi
Loyal Fan

32 posts
10-14-02

Knight gets Death Blade
Elf gets choice of Fire Bow or Fire Sword
Prince gets Golden Sceptre
Mage gets Crystal Ball of Mana.

Mage's quest item sux~~~~~ T.T
Well, I never will be 50 with mage anyway...>.<

May 16, 2003 11:15 am ET (#43)
Kishi
Loyal Fan

8 posts
02-18-02

Actually Shah, that golden sword is the Dwarvish Short Sword sprite.

May 16, 2003 04:17 pm ET (#44)
Nic
Loyal Fan

5 posts
04-28-03

for all of u complaining about mages and items suck look at spells in lineage
players guide bad enough mages are to damn powerful but if u playing a mage all of u get greedy i know for i play a knight and havnt really gotten anywheres wit him and he is 46lvl lol. the reason mages dont get anymore is the balance issues wit the other classes so if u play a mage and whining shut up for u cant really even defeat a mage now.

May 16, 2003 05:33 pm ET (#45)
Anime
Loyal Fan

212 posts
12-25-02

i dunno why everyone complains about mage...
mage not nerfed at all..
and now with alll this extra + mp regen stuff mages can hunt like mages...
back in beta i knew a lot of people who hit 40+ with mage with only -10ac max..

i knew some who even hit 45 with mages like that...
mages soft ac -_- big whoop mages dont need ac.. they need mp only...

May 16, 2003 06:18 pm ET (#46)
LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan

81 posts
04-15-02

to all the people out there complaining about mages being nerved,can i remind u that mages r for the moment the class who had the most updates,also mages have as many stuff than knights
i hear mages complaining about their low ac/soft ac,well how come the mages i know (whom dont complain) manage well FI or ToI with just -10 ac ???? mages dont need ac....mages weapons sux ??? why would u go melee ???to get some mp ??? bah use csom....one of the best items (many people think like that)
spells sux ??? need new ones??? oh yeah i c mages getting more exp in owl/ivory tower using turn undead than any powerfull elves,i c mages gathering orcs in orc beach and kill them with 1 blizzard (when they r full lawfull)....i can go on ages about mages not being nerved but some people will always think that their class is nerved
also its a dumb reaction to say that the mage item suxs when u dont even know the stats of it....u dont even know if the other items r good or not so plz stop complaining especially when u dont know what the f*** u r talking about.
I have knight/elf/mage on dep/ken/loa -all lvl 45+ - and i can tell u that the only problem for mages is their lvl 50 bonus (i think they sh ould have +1 sp and +2 mp regen per tick) and that the balance between classes is almost finished (if u would play all classes u would know that the main problem is prince/ss and not mages/knights being nerved)

May 16, 2003 06:28 pm ET (#47)
Firien
LC Reporter

93 posts
11-26-02

Nic: "look at spells in lineage". Yeah, they're nice. But most of the level 9 spells and all of the level 10 spells are out of game, and no word or hint on them ever coming in.

"u cant really even defeat a mage now"

level 10 knight 1v1 level 10 mage knight wins
level 20 knight 1v1 level 20 mage knight wins
level 30 knight 1v1 level 30 mage knight wins
level 40 knight 1v1 level 40 mage knight wins

See a pattern?

With the extra +mp stuff mages can finally hunt like mages, yes. But if you have a mage with no ac, then you can fight only one mop at a time, and not bosshunt. A knight can survive a swarm of mops; a mage has to cast fb or fc hard and fast, or get out. If you're hunting bosses and have to keep healing yourself, you're getting less damage in and so get almost no drops. Mages need ac too.

May 16, 2003 07:08 pm ET (#48)
Darklight
Loyal Fan

35 posts
10-19-01

knights are suppost to 1v1. mages are not.

May 16, 2003 08:21 pm ET (#49)
PK03
Loyal Fan

posts
04-27-03

Yo!!

that's NOT Korea server-_-

That's china server-_-

babo!!!!

May 16, 2003 10:32 pm ET (#50)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

level 40 knight 1v1 level 40 mage knight wins


hmmmm...
don't think so
knight runs up to mage
mage para or cancel/slow the knight
knight is virtually useless
mage uses summons and beats the knight to death as the knight is para

I think it is the fact that too many ppl in the game, rely on mages to be melee
I mean
what kind of mages r u ppl making?
most important to me is int, then wis, then con.....
bet the ppl bitching r str/con mages since they really suck with magic and have to go melee in battle
hell, if u want your mage to go fight melee so badly, go get -6x or -7x AC for your mage, difficult to do, but it is possible and u'll be hunting melee alot
even on my elf, with 75% MR, an 18 int mage still has high chances of para/slowing me, I had it happen to me by pkers, int is the key for mages to be powerhouse killers
like y r mages the FS sucide killers in sieges? ppl who go to big sieges seen them before, they rape the frontline of elves with ease and burn them into nothing but blood spilling on the ground

10 knights vs 10 mages
mages will definitely fight
unless none of the mages r int
then u're all fucked

if u can manage some decent -4x or -5x AC, u can definitely hunt without much problems
but like every game, there is always ppl who bitch about everything cuz they WANT everything to be perfect for the characters they play

May 16, 2003 11:04 pm ET (#51)
demonicarrow
Loyal Fan

10 posts
10-13-02

well spoken K-ZS-M

Mages are ment to use magic
Knights are ment to beat the shit outta things w/ a sword
Elves are ment to hit from afar, or use a sword
Princes/se are just ment to get raped =P

People, just Deal with It...

May 17, 2003 01:47 am ET (#52)
Cwata
Loyal Fan

51 posts
07-04-02

of course the fire items are quest items, but i think the fire demon items are to buff you up, the sword will be a good sword, the eye and foot probably armor, but the heart. think it might be a new ammy or something that buffs hp or reg. rate

May 17, 2003 02:08 am ET (#53)
VisualAMP
Loyal Fan

1 posts
04-05-03

have you guys ever tried hunting on mage..... the ones that are saying stop complaning? Try giran 4th floor switch to som and back to sof a few 1000's of times see how you like that.... its really annoying! Than try mlc more switching!!! dvc alot of switching.... hiene 1-3 have no mp... NC liked to nerf the mp on mops... That, in it self is meant to hurt mages... for those who do not have 18 wis the csom and mana cloak are useless without mana pot and hotel I rather be out switching som to sof on ogre beach.

one the other note knights arent hard to own with mage. A good elf will own mage... also may own knight.

Use water elf with b2s....

elf vs knight slow cancel para if he likes than wack wack wack...?? whats this knight blowing pots? wait the kngiht using +8tsu ? hes gonna win!?!?! WAIT! w-b w-b w-b >< ouch looks like knight has a -7 tsu oO and the elf waters 5 times... no pots and elf has 70 orange left to blow oO

elf v-s mage pluck pluck pluck oO g-h wait no mp >< time to vens if you lagg its fatal! mabe if the mage casted freeze it would stop him?!?! bah he has high mr.... blasted elf spells...

knight vs mage if you are ready for a knight freeze para kill with summons.. wait he alt tabs and force quits... This is a disavantage to mr mage ><. best way to cancel v-t slow para if you like sunburst or c-l ^^

pk kight with money in swl?
coi knight run run run pops out of coi on helpless mage fighting evil black kight's pack. Wack wack wack! with the tsu and oO ded mage. with a int mage with 2 summons even with kbbs he is helpless. hes more worried about his low hp and to heal after casting firestorm than to attack. Next thought is to tele home or to cancel him forever....

On another note... This does not include loa sever cuz mages are beasty there. Boss hunting on mage really stinks.... Yes a mage with 4kbbs could clean stuff up but most have 2 or 3. A good mage will only use 2 or none what so ever. With the higher level spells mabe mage might have a better chance on ending bosses. its not like kbbs could hurt the ant queen they tickle her. Dk? well kbbs are ended so quick its humiliating. Caspa? it can be done but first you gotta find him before the 5 lvl 52 dep knights find him first.

Fianl Note...
IF you have read the spells that are not in the game they aren't that un balancing. Thats why we complain! why be level 50 when you get nothing new? Why level to 50 when you get no bonuses besides the bapho morph. level 52 mages takes a long time and alot of people I know that have tried it have gone mad in the process only getting level 49. Well I think a lack of sleep has something to do with it besides that they get very very strange......

May 17, 2003 02:34 am ET (#54)
NodDegamra
Loyal Fan

15 posts
03-28-03

Is it just me or do the graphics for Fire Demon Sword through Key of Apocalypse look rather high rez as opposed to normal screenshot graphics? The items on the bottom (the unknowns) looks a bit more believable and more to the nature of Lineage screenshots, but the others look as if they have higher pixel counts or higher color depth. I just can't place my finger on it.

May 17, 2003 03:26 am ET (#55)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

Ummm, what U mages fail to realize is that the mages that came before U screwed it up for all of us. NC employees have verified this time and time again. The reason summon was changed: too many uber PK mages. The reason soft ac was created: mages, elves, and royals arent supposed to be as strong as knights, also, mages & elves arent supposed to melee. If they choose to melee they have to deal with the fact that that's not how those chars were designed to play.
I used to play a mage, then I decided I'd rather whack things to death so I went back to my knight full time. And for those who think it's so easy to play a knight, making money with a knight is twice as hard as making money with a mage or elf. But U rarely hear us complaining about that. And about updates!!! Ummmmmm, knights have gotten another lousy red knight sword and a red knight shield that does almost the same exact damned thing that an elven shield does. While mages keep getting great items that allow them to regen mana at a fairly nice rate and elves got a shiny new tshirt after their kool elemental spells.
I do agree that mages need a decent lvl50 bonus tho. U guys also have to realize that NC austin can only do so much. They can do whatever with LOA server, but dep & ken are ruled by Korea. Korean servers are 80-90% knights....... Money talks people. They are gonna try to keep the majority happy as long as possible. It's called good business. But it would be nice if they let NC Austin have a lil more control over the american servers. After all were not in Korea damn it....
OK I think I'm done bitchin now.
Basically what I'm saying is: QUIT YOUR FREAKIN WHINING AND GO LVL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~K~

May 17, 2003 09:17 am ET (#56)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

Firien
About that lvl 67 Mage in Korea that uses VT to beat lvl 65+ knights 1v1~ o.o You forgot about him~!!!

May 17, 2003 03:01 pm ET (#57)
Firien
LC Reporter

93 posts
11-26-02

Mmm, I didn't get that far in my testing yet :P

May 17, 2003 03:01 pm ET (#58)
Arq_dude
Loyal Fan

6 posts
07-04-02

Ok Flexy...you seem to want and blame the so called "nerfs" on knights because of mages? Riiiiight ok, lets go back to the Big update where soft ac,-3hit on som, and whatever the the rest of the updates were. NONE of it was good at all. I can remember not 10 min after this update was put into affect global was being swarmed with complaints of death. Ppl died every time they tried to hunt whatever they used 2. It was more so worse for mages,elves, and princes. I would know very well the situation...i have a mage that i will not give up on.Sure they nerfed mages bad but why play a knight like everyone else? Back to the point, Mages, elves, and princes died continuosly due 2 soft ac, and mages because they couldnt hit anything. So with the way society works all the knights start 2 complain. So now u say that elves princes and mages are getting the best of the updates? Sure mages get mana regain put up with all these new items but it still is nowhere near enough to take out a knight. And mana is our only way of hunting if ur a wis/int mage....u tell us to stop complaining and go lvl. Do you realize how long it takes to lvl a mage? Because of us only having to use mana, wich is limited unlike the swing of a sword,half of the time not only do we have a higher chance of dieing on top of everything else we have 2 have knights complain about stuff they dont even have to go through. And we have to listen to u guys tell us to do this and do that when u dont have the slightest clue and how hard it would be 2 live up 2 knight standerds as a mage. So plz stop badmouthing the mages...becauz u have not a clue and how hard it is ,with the shining new items that help but only slightly , so get ur facts straight and stop complaining about what u dont have because sure we may have more but none of it is as nearly as good as what u have!
Arq-ken server

May 18, 2003 12:05 am ET (#59)
VisualAMP
Loyal Fan

1 posts
04-05-03

from above
Flexy24k, "The reason summon was changed: too many uber PK mages" that may be true.. but the fact ws the many dogs on the sever caused uber lag.

I could forgive nc for all the nerfs if they gave mages the use of a brave.
takes me 2 hours at level 49 to get 1% while knights get it at 1 hour. I dont have time now to dedicate my life to lineage 24/7 and its frustrating to see this. No Spartio should be abel to deal out 15 damage to a mage with -50 ac!!!! magic... lets way wis int what people think mages are suposed to be... puff puff puff no mana lets head back sit afk for 20 mins and regain the 450 mp we just blew... yay fun...

May 18, 2003 01:32 am ET (#60)
Alpine
Loyal Fan

5 posts
10-24-01

Man all u guys b***hing and moaning about what mages dont have... yet they've been given so much compared to before.. blues/wiz/som/sof/mage set, etc...
Try hunting with a gradius/rks and some junk armor old school style and i bet you won't complain about how they're so weak and nerfed.

May 18, 2003 01:34 am ET (#61)
thibz
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-02-02

not hard... 2 dragon slayers for fire demon sword and death sword
and a gradius for the fireblade.....


if mage gets braves..... mage gonna kick ass and own anything in duel....

thats what I think.,,... prince deserver braves..... they do.. increase the drop for them theyu never complain about it but they deserve it... increase th drop rate for Royal Nectar and essence of nobility

thx

May 18, 2003 01:51 am ET (#62)
thibz
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-02-02

hahahaa just read about that mage are weak.... are they ?
they own everything when they really want it.. look... elf start attackin mage turn do FREEZE he has all the time he wants to kill dogs and to get close to him the moment he move slow para freeze again....
and everything worked with a 75% MR elf.... on the first shot....

hmmm elf wants to do r-c... silence him...

Knight much more easy cancel slow para freeze w-b w-b w-b kill him with summons if he ha the chance to get un para... v-t him till death...

mage weak ?... stop sayin bullshit

mage are weaks against critical physical dmg... this is normal... normal that mage cant get close to phoenix or DK orDragon or Demon... but he got heal pledge to heal all his summons... my friend made 700K in 4 days with a lvl 45 cha mage
stop whining.. and go lvl up its true that cha mage are hard to lvl but the moment u get to 40 it doesnt take long before hitting 45

IMagine Loa Server

May 18, 2003 03:26 am ET (#63)
JestRique
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134 posts
05-09-02

THE ONLY THING PPL CAN SAY A MAGE IS BETTER AT THAN A KNIGHT IS MAKING MONEY...

but guess whos better at making money than a mage? elves... ive seen an elf make 1m in 1 day by just hunting non-stop... mages cant hunt non-stop even with all there lame regen items... regen still takes time, regen is slow when walking regen is faster when not moving... so you have to sit to gain mp. that wastes time that elves get money cuz they only use arrows....

mages still cant do shit in the leveling area, they go so damn slow.. ever tried to lvl a mage to 50?! no all you stupid retardes who tell us to stop bitching have only used a mage to make money so you can boost your knights ac/weap. you dont give a fuck about your mage, you dont even try to lvl it, so you shut up and stop your anti-bitching. point of the game isnt to pk, a mage wins a pk fight? wow that makes mage the best char, wow! WOW! i feel so much better i can kill someone easier... who the fuck cares really? all i want is to be able to lvl easier, and faster, i dont care about pking or anything, and most mages who try to lvl DONT care about pking.

to you idiots who say we have gotten the most... your blind... weve gotten several things.. yes.. but everytime we get something, NC NERFS IT!

iam so sick of hearing you ppl telling us to stop bitching, we have that right. i bet if nc made your tsu's 2 handed agin you bitch and moan till they changed it back.. cuz they listen to knights.... mages are just nothing to them, they could care less....

once my mage has 1000 mp and 25 int ill stop bitching, till then, shut the fuck up and let me bitch.

http://www.templar-gaming.com/lineage/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14216&perpage=6&pagenumber=2

go there for my full ranting... and read it all dont just read parts.

May 18, 2003 06:06 am ET (#64)
kobraky
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5 posts
10-16-02

~~ Ok...why is there SOOOO many posts about mages Complaining????

Go Play LoA its the best server!

I don't think the drops are as good on LoA but you have a chance to get good ac with a mage...I solo DVC 4-5f all the time using 1 or 2 kbbs....

Also I can't wait to see what this new crystal ball does! Hopefully + To Mp/Hp or maybe it will be a new shield and still add the +1 to int...

Oh i am kinda curious if anyone else has noticed....I Have used a Mage for the last couple months on LoA and i used a Knight before that...My mage has -6x ac and I seem to take 1/4 the hits my knight would take with the same ac....I mean i am able to walk through a room full of skeleton guards/fighters/marksmen and get hit maybe 2 or 3 times...yet my knight or my elf friends go do something like that and they are getting hammered on and losing over 100 hp after fighting 2+ skeles....dunno just thought that it was awsome how mages ac seems harder than knight or elf cause god knows we need it...YOU HAVE TO USE SOM TO KEEP MP UP CSOM IS NOT THAT GOOD!!!

kk...i'm done...GL to you all !

May 18, 2003 06:51 pm ET (#65)
IG88C
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9 posts
10-11-02

Wonder what the keys do... Maybe when u get em all together u get the Key of Apocalypse and that does something special. Just a guess

May 18, 2003 08:40 pm ET (#66)
Arq_dude
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6 posts
07-04-02

HMMM idea! I bet that the Fire demon sword,eye,foot,heart, i bet all of those u get as drops from valok, then someone...prince,mage,knight,or elf turns it in for his or her quest item. therfor it would be very difficult for ppl 2 complete this quest

May 19, 2003 03:03 am ET (#67)
Celebirin
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13 posts
04-08-03

stop wining!
Can some korean(or chinese(what ever tha language is)) make a translation of that caft page we beg for information!!!PLEASE;)

hmm wonder do mages get new spells...!dont look at me mages r over powerfull allredy why shouldnt they get power next to demons and dragons think they could tamm a dk and walk to skt or valakas newbies r gona b freakt out .lol ye we need more power to other classes elves could get new spells but knites...well they get ultimate wepons like dragon slayer and some unbelivible armour hhm why not knites get spells from lv 50 and up like at lv 55 hed get lv 2 spells and so on? what do u think?

May 19, 2003 04:52 am ET (#68)
flexy24k
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215 posts
12-10-02

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... I still hear you crying!!!

#58. U obviously didn't read my whole post, or U were unable to understand what I wrote out in plain and simple english. I never said the "nerfs" ( a word i never used ) on knights were the fault of the mage class. All I was stating is that the past few quest items that we got were quite redundant. While the other classes have gotten some pretty kool new and unique items. If you're still ending because of soft AC maybe you s hould find another game to play. Sure after the soft AC update many elves, royals, and mages ended because of it. Same as when they did the pot update and took out double/triple pumping and implemented the pot delay. MANY royals, elves, mages, AND knights died many times after the pot delay update. Then we learned how to cope with it. Now we hunt like there's always been a pot delay. After the soft AC update it was much harder to hunt with my prince. So I changed my hunting style. This made it just as easy as before or even easier. If something isn't working for you maybe you should change your style. Adapt!!! Those that don't or say they can't usually get left behind. Why would a mage want to live up to knights standards? And how are you going to tell me a knight will own a mage in pvp. If a knight and mage at the same lvl (40+) and ac fight the mage will win 9 times out of 10. Unless the knight has 200% mr and great luck. Oh ya, U play ken server. Move your lineage career to Dep then try to tell me about pvp... =)~
The way I see it is that we're playing a game thats based on the fantasy genre. That being said, in most fantasy books or movies what do you see? A bunch of knights and a handful of mages. The mages are usually very old and very powerful. Which means it took them a long time to get where they're at and become as strong as they are. While most of the knights are young, vigorous, and full of energy. Your royal class is rarely seen fighting or hunting, yet they're usually considered to be among the best at these things. Being a leader is much harder than being a soldier. It takes more training, more discipline, and more time. It seems to me that most of this is in direct relation to Lineage. How often do you read about a mage whacking something to death with their sword? Almost never. Although it does happen.
When are people going to realize that THE CLASSES IN LINEAGE WEREN'T MADE TO LVL AT THE SAME SPEED!!! I figured this out before I even started playing the game when I was reading about it on their website. I lvld my mage to 45 before i decided that I didn't want to p lay that class anymore. Not because it was harder or because being a knight was easier, but because playing a knight was what I wanted. Also at that time my pledge needed more strong knights. So I concentrated most of my energy and focus to my knight. Hard work pays off. If lvling was easy this game would suck and I wouldnt play it. If I wanted easy I'd play test server.
Anyways, i'm tired now and i'm off the subject. Good luck to all of U. Keep working hard and you'll accomplish your goals. I know knights that have taken over a year to lvl from 48 to 52. But they got there. And so will I...

Strength & Honor

~K~

May 19, 2003 08:58 am ET (#69)
ehong78
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11 posts
12-04-02

I heard noone in korea test can do the quest cuz there are no level 50 prince. And supposedly, the quest is only possible when all 4 classes work together.

May 19, 2003 11:24 am ET (#70)
ZDarkastZ
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16 posts
12-03-02

The quest can be made only 1 time for each lvl 50?
In Dep only there is 1 princess lvl 50. Then only 4 ppl will be able to do it?

May 19, 2003 12:02 pm ET (#71)
Doomscythe
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1155 posts
03-21-02

Darkast there was 3 lvl 50 princess 1 banned, 1 not playing, 1 playing~

May 19, 2003 12:46 pm ET (#72)
ZDarkastZ
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16 posts
12-03-02

Yes, i know but like you said only 1 plays...

May 19, 2003 04:01 pm ET (#73)
Yoshiki
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667 posts
12-13-02

cool, im not gonna read those posts. next time resume please!

May 19, 2003 04:57 pm ET (#74)
Asland
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114 posts
04-23-02

Looks like I will have to bribe a prince or princess to help me with quest ^^

May 19, 2003 05:23 pm ET (#75)
Grihm
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106 posts
04-30-02

#59 sigh.. if u make 1% in every 2 hours with your mage.. I salute you.. cuz I make 1% every 2 hours (or alil more) with my knight..

I have never heard of a knight getting 1% each hour.. and 1% every 2 hours is good exp on 49.. amazing if you're a mage o.o

May 20, 2003 01:48 am ET (#76)
IntothePain
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163 posts
11-01-02

431 is ring of sayha~ i wish i knew if anyone had one =/

May 20, 2003 02:39 am ET (#77)
Aenie
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11 posts
10-01-02

what??! knights get Fire Demon Sword, mages get Fire Demon Eye, prince(ss) get's the Fire Demon Heart and us elves get a stupid foot.... Q.Q lol
anyway those items might be good but getting 50 taking more time :D

May 20, 2003 10:18 am ET (#78)
LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan

81 posts
04-15-02

#53 actually i hunt only with a csom...use a little f-c or ebolt and let my summons kill the mops.....i earn more money than my elf (who has better weapon,lvl and ac ....)
oh yeah the exp is slower than the other classes....oh i hunt ivory tower use t-u on death/ghost/silhouette w/out summon and get as much exp as an elf in owl or a knight in fv

#63 like i posted on nc boards.... elves kills x mops,knight 2x mops and mage 3-4x mops so explain me how come an elf can earn more money than a mage if it kills less mops than the mage ??? *sigh*u say the guy made 1 mill per day ??? well did he tell u how much he can make in 1 day with a mage ??? no so u cant compare.just to say knights make more money than elves but they spend more money for pots,elves r the only class that dont spend much money...they dont need uber ac or uber bow,they just need something to shot from far away and some poly and hastes.....i just spent 6 months playin elf and mage....and guess what ??? my mage manage to get enough money to buy most of its spells,its ac and the elf's ac/weapon while the elf was just capable to buy mgems and gems for it.at lvl 40 my wis/int mage had over 4 mill when my dex elf had just 1 mill at the same lvl.....so tell me how come an elf earns more than a mage ???
they both hunted heine/giran/fv/owl and ivory tower .......

May 20, 2003 10:28 am ET (#79)
LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan

81 posts
04-15-02

also i just wanted to add tha mages have already their brave ... they r called WIS POT and BLUE !!!! that can ezly get than prince or elf "brave"

also mage have had the most updates since lineage exists....som,sof,blue,wis,csom,iron som(the new som that isnt out in the us),int book,mage set + the spells and most of the ammys that r interesting for the mages to wear (int/wis/str/dex/cha....a knight would only use str and an elf str or dex)and many other stuff

want a proof that mages have had the most updates ??? well check the variety of the items a mage has...i mean elves always use the same stuff for years:boe/ecm/ec also the sayha and bowgun r really hard to get

at least mages have interesting quest items....int book,csom and mana cloak
i mean elves never use helm of con/dex,+6 ets well u can get +6 ts for almost the same price,elf summon isnt used very often,gloves of protection rnt that great (i personnally prefer having the +2 hit or pgloves)
knights rkh is nice but the rks is an es(thx for screwing the elven economy),red knight sword suxs

May 20, 2003 03:59 pm ET (#80)
IntothePain
Loyal Fan

163 posts
11-01-02

#79 +6ts is a little more adena than +6ets =P
+5 gloves of protection is pretty nice for dex elves cause they get more hp~ and can be water.

elves have: b2s/water = good hunting
elves have: high mr with no items on
elves have: higher swing speed with sword/bow
elves have: less soft ac than mages
elves have: choice of swords and bows while knights have only sword
mages have: lots of choices, summons, items, spells, all kinds of good stuff.
knights have: hard ac, crazy str, crazy hp, braves

May 20, 2003 08:29 pm ET (#81)
IG88C
Loyal Fan

9 posts
10-11-02

Doesnt the Lamuda look like a greater fire spirit?




Keep the peace.

May 21, 2003 12:35 am ET (#82)
DragonMaster
Loyal Fan

21 posts
02-08-03

i juss skimmed down to the end so i didnt get to read any of ur post but did anyone notic that that gold ring looks alot like the "One Ring" from lotr LOL...thats also kismets emblem for ring of destiny lol...
(go kismet the strongest pledge ever!!o.o)

PEACE!

May 21, 2003 04:11 am ET (#83)
h2ombre
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333 posts
02-28-02

"that gold ring looks alot like the "One Ring" from lotr "
ring of invisibility o.O

May 21, 2003 05:45 am ET (#84)
mo00man
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posts
05-21-03

if any of you have noticed, besides from the princes's sceptre, all of the classes have the lvl 50 weapons. death blade=sword of heaven, firebow=bow of anceints, and crystal ball of mana=wisdom of ancient evil. unless these r used to kill the devil, that you unlock with the knight's and elf's key together, maybe its a quest to get all of the character classes to work together, so u'll have to kill a certain monster to get the septre for the prince.

May 21, 2003 06:11 pm ET (#85)
LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan

81 posts
04-15-02

#80 if u would test the "elven mr" u would notice that +6x mr for an elf is like +30-40mr for a mage (that they have base)
also elves might have a higher choice of bows and swords but most of the elves hold less stuff (gl using a sword when u can hardly hold 7x orjs)
also u say that knights choice of swords only ???? actually they can use all bows except yumi,sayha and bowgun and thats at least 50% of the bows
ok elves have less soft ac but they take more hits than mages whom can ezly heal themselves w/out any delay

o.O a dex elf needs +5 gloves of protection to be water ??? u know there r many dex elves who r water because of their high hp my lvl 49 dex elf on dep has 400+ hp w/out belts/orc ammy
also gloves of protection < pgloves .... at lvl 45+ u can ezly buy pgloves so why use gloves of protection

May 22, 2003 06:03 am ET (#86)
mo00man
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posts
05-21-03

#85 at lvl 45+ u can ezly buy pgloves? i don't no bout you but i have a 46 elf n i'm still broke n can't afford even a int ammy, let alone pgloves wich r xmil.

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