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July 01, 2003 09:51 pm ET - research by Nue

Part II, Episode 1 - Magic, Monsters, Items

New Episode 13 goodies on Nue's site (http://nue.howgo.to)

Dark Elf Magic

Level 1

Blind Hiding Enchant Venom Shadow Armor Bring Stone

Level 2

Moving Acceleration Burning Spirit Dark Blind Venom Resist

Level 3

Armor Break Uncanny Dodge Shadow Fang Final Burn

Monsters

Will O' Wisp Big Dark Elf Ranger Assassin Master

Items (as they appear on the ground)

Elixirs: STR, CON, DEX, INT, WIS, CHA Aden World Map

July 01, 2003 09:53 pm ET (#2)

KamiKazi
Loyal Fan
34 posts
01-13-03

nice any idea if DE can use allready made armor like es or weps like kat or something?

July 01, 2003 09:56 pm ET (#3)

Nintendo87
Loyal Fan
14 posts
04-22-03

world map looks cool o.o

July 01, 2003 09:57 pm ET (#4)

Hooks
Loyal Fan
1 posts
06-24-03

do different elixers for each stat mean that each type of elixer can be used 5 times? like +5 to all stats is the max benefit you can get from these? or just 5 overall and regardless of which type you use it counts against the 5 total times u can use an elixer item?

July 01, 2003 09:59 pm ET (#5)

WraithFire
Loyal Fan
54 posts
12-06-02

nice, this stuff is so cool

#2 i don't know if they can, but something that was posted a few days ago here showed armor and it looked like they had a special dark elf item for every type of ac, even boots. they may be able to still use some things from other chars, but to me it looks like NC doesn't want people to just use their ac from other chars so that this class is truely unique

July 01, 2003 10:01 pm ET (#6)

Necromancers
Loyal Fan
76 posts
12-01-02

man i cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

July 01, 2003 10:11 pm ET (#7)

aupairKing
Loyal Fan
320 posts
03-11-02

WORLD MAP!! SWEET!!

My wife will finally not get lost anymore!

July 01, 2003 10:17 pm ET (#8)

tamashii
Loyal Fan
77 posts
02-03-03

#4, I think that you can only use 5 elixirs overall and they are each a 1 time use item. So if you are eager to buff your STR, and nothing else, then you need to wait for 5 STR elixirs to drop, or buy 5 STR elixirs of other players. This is a better balance than I previously thought. The fact that they are specific make them more a selling point rather than an abuse or inbalance. This makes it certainly more difficult to do the "create-a-new-uber-character".

-t

July 01, 2003 10:17 pm ET (#9)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Lineage is made so convenient (verrs and b-teles) that no one ever walks.. so the big map wouldn't be that much of help, until nc adds the carry/trading system comes.

July 01, 2003 10:18 pm ET (#10)

JestRique
Loyal Fan
134 posts
05-09-02

de's have there own de line of armors. they use certain stones, i think, to make the items. they are enchantable to +4 and +6. i think this was posted today in one of the earlier threads.

so the elixer's aren't all that great :P you have to hope for a great one to drop or you might just end up with one you don't want, and one nobody wants :P

*hopes int elixer's drop often, and wouldn't mind charisma one either* ;)

i wonder why they used the same animation for invisibility as they did for blind. :/

July 01, 2003 11:41 pm ET (#11)

Smokeyjoe454
Loyal Fan
14 posts
01-22-02

NEATO! actually that is pretty badass, gonna kinda be hard to keep track of all spells

July 02, 2003 12:14 am ET (#12)

FlaRrRr
Loyal Fan
103 posts
06-06-02

i hope the elixers will be un-tradable cuz the uber rich people will make the prices of STR or INT ones be really high -_-; making the rich people even stronger and normal people not able to afford them..

July 02, 2003 12:44 am ET (#13)

QueenNina
Loyal Fan
197 posts
10-31-01

FlaRrRr> I think all the pots will have a great worth to them.

Lets think about if for a sec, maybe you buy 5 elixirs of any combination of stats, create a new char and pump them up with the elixirs. You could create a str/con/wis/int mage if you wanted for an example or a STR/Dex knight or STR/CON knight. The combs are unlimited, so I'm hopping there is a level requirement for the Elixirs.

July 02, 2003 01:15 am ET (#14)

ben
Loyal Fan
8 posts
10-01-02

SICK Now that well have a world map i wont have to tele evry hwre ill just walk
:)

July 02, 2003 01:24 am ET (#15)

Irenicus
Loyal Fan
16 posts
01-15-03

That would be phat, get a lvl 1 str knight + 5 to con or +5 con to a con knight o.0

July 02, 2003 03:44 am ET (#16)

Elric
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337 posts
10-29-02

thats nice...

July 02, 2003 03:50 am ET (#17)

McLeans
Loyal Fan
137 posts
09-17-02

#13 I hope no level requirements =/
Can't wait to make a con 23 knight^^ (level 1 that is ;)

July 02, 2003 03:58 am ET (#18)

Yoshiki
Loyal Fan
667 posts
12-13-02

aden world map ^^;

July 02, 2003 04:18 am ET (#19)

QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan
173 posts
02-05-02

How rare this elixirs are going to be? I want 5 of them now!! Hmmm int 25 with items sure seems nice!

Good idea NC - hope its not rare like 20 mill each...

July 02, 2003 05:51 am ET (#20)

Aenie
Loyal Fan
11 posts
10-01-02

heh looks funny that "Final Burn", somehow it feels like Dark Elf is going to be the kamikaze krew on siege, lol >.<

July 02, 2003 06:44 am ET (#21)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

#14: Walking takes quite a while. I've timed myself walking from Orc Town to Heine and it took 12 mins and I ran straight to there too o.O
That's what happens when there's nothing to do in lin.

July 02, 2003 07:19 am ET (#22)

phil
Loyal Fan
147 posts
04-05-02

should have ran from ivory tower to windawood castle o.o

July 02, 2003 08:50 am ET (#23)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

But then people could just cancel them o.o~~~ So if elixirs are high price! Rich peoples lose money o.o~! Cancel!

July 02, 2003 09:22 am ET (#24)

tamashii
Loyal Fan
77 posts
02-03-03

#23 er... what? Cancel what? It is a potion that permanently adds one to the stat it is for.

Even if there is not a level requirement to use the Elixirs, I find it hard to believe these things will be dropping more often than Ogre's Blood. You guys are acting like they will be dropping in abundance. This item permanently increases a stat by 1 point. That is like hitting level 51, but you don't get to choose which stat to put the point into. If you have a CHA Elixir, you drink it, your CHA will increase by one, permanently. With that said � #19, these things are gonna be relatively expensive. Especially the ones such as CON/WIS as they affect your future HP/MP levels.

Let's also keep in mind that you still have to be level 5 before you can access your storage, so there will not be any Level 1 20STR/19CON knights about. And as they are specific elixirs, you are most likely not going to see any level 5 20STR/19CON Knights running amok for quite a while. I have a feeling they are going to put a some kind of level restriction on them.

-t

July 02, 2003 09:43 am ET (#25)

Yoshiki
Loyal Fan
667 posts
12-13-02

u can drop elixir on the ground then pick with your lvl 1 knight.

July 02, 2003 09:56 am ET (#26)

TidalWave
LC Reporter
55 posts
11-25-01

I like the 16 str, 23 con idea more... based on average lvl ups youll get little over 200 more hp at lvl 50, at lvl 51 you can just start adding stat points to str / dex.

not fair for ppl that are 51+ tho, imagion how poseidon will feel when he finds this out.... 75 lvls and now he can buy/find stat points >.<

July 02, 2003 10:32 am ET (#27)

DarkHand
Loyal Fan
30 posts
01-10-03

Poseidon shouldnt care too much he can just add all the points to wis to get super mr. Also tamashii you can still create a lvl 1 with elixirs all you have to do is the extremely risky drop trade but Ive done it in the past without a hitch. Basically find a house that people hardly go in drop the stuff and log out super quick with the lvl 1 prepositioned of course and get the stuff.

July 02, 2003 10:33 am ET (#28)

DarkHand
Loyal Fan
30 posts
01-10-03

Actually on second thought it would piss me off if theres no lvl requirement because then Poseidon could have had ungodly hp at lvl 75 and now he doesnt have that opportunity.

July 02, 2003 10:40 am ET (#29)

LordDragon
Loyal Fan
3 posts
05-07-03

World maps ok. For those of us who have been around for a long time you might remember having to walk everywhere since we didnt have bteles and the only way you could control tele's was with the rotc. Actually made the game a lil more interesting back then because you would have to fight your way thru mop most of the time to get where you were going.

July 02, 2003 10:48 am ET (#30)

Crazykilla
Loyal Fan
26 posts
01-06-02

ahh i remember the good ole days of running from gludio to windawood...
"omg shelob run!!!!"
"dont worry ill get it!"
"ughhhhhhhhh!"
then we try again and hope someone lured it away o.-

July 02, 2003 11:02 am ET (#31)

foreversky
Loyal Fan
5 posts
06-26-03

Anyone got any idea if this is comming to the U.S Test as well?
or just for korean test??
O.O

July 02, 2003 11:05 am ET (#32)

DarkHand
Loyal Fan
30 posts
01-10-03

Amer dont feel like emailing you this seems so much faster, seems like there is a brief description of part 3 and part 4 of Lineage on Nue. I cant read korean, yet, so you'll have to take a look for yourself.

July 02, 2003 11:23 am ET (#33)

Chum
Loyal Fan
116 posts
10-17-02

Perma stat point is kinda bad for Poseidon, but heck, he'll get over it, he can still kill anyone in the game. These things will make very powerful people..

July 02, 2003 12:51 pm ET (#34)

PebDiGaetano
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-12-02

since poison spell turns you chao instantly when it is casted will enchant venom be the same

July 02, 2003 02:16 pm ET (#35)

tamashii
Loyal Fan
77 posts
02-03-03

How many of these elixirs do you guys think are going to be dropping off mops?

Also, you can only do this 5 times. After you use 5 elixirs, that is it, no more. There is only a 17% chance that (out of the 6 types of elixirs that can drop) you will get the one you want. Let's say that the Lich will be the mop (or one of the mops) that can drop the elixir. I am going to guess that it is going to be less than a 1% chance it will drop it. And you guys want it to drop the same TYPE of elixir FIVE times?! Let's be realistic folks, NC is not going to allow for people to just start slappin' 5 points into their stats willy-nilly. I bet the CHA Elixir is the most common drop out of all the elixirs. You can all have Level 1 Princes with 23 CHA! Yea!

-t

July 02, 2003 02:40 pm ET (#36)

supermario
Loyal Fan
25 posts
04-07-03

Heh I kinda agree with #35 its hard to believe that as soon as update comes everyone is gonna get 5 elixirs of con or 5 elixirs of str. Assuming that these drops are rare your gonna have to wait for quiet awhile for you to collect 5 of the same elixir.

July 02, 2003 02:49 pm ET (#37)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

I wouldn't mind a 22 CHA mage
use cha ammy and rkc
summon 5 mops
or summon 4 dire wolves
will feel like the old days
hehe

but yeah
this stuff is going to be RARE
but I think every elixir has an useful purpose

July 02, 2003 03:20 pm ET (#38)

Irenicus
Loyal Fan
16 posts
01-15-03

Why does everyone think Lich is dropping it. It is not like people on US servers going to run up there and end the Lich just like that and get one of these. Since we have a new FI aka Floating Island, those mops(the harder ones) might drop it and be a very rare chance.

July 02, 2003 04:23 pm ET (#39)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

lol crazykillah i rember those days....flame me all u guys want but i dont think those elixers are such a good idea it just kinda screws u all the lvl 50+ peeps IMO atleast..

July 02, 2003 04:31 pm ET (#40)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

It only screws the lvl 51-56 ppl not the rest...Remember, you can only use 5 elixirs per character.

July 02, 2003 04:39 pm ET (#41)

Firien
LC Reporter
93 posts
11-26-02

Hmmm... dark blind and blind hiding have same anim...

Yeah, elixirs will be uber-rare. I doubt the price will be lower than 20m; I expect it will be as high as 50m.

With making level 1 ubers, you'd have to already *have* an uber, to either get 5 con elixirs or be able to afford 5. It would take an enormous amount of money to fund, and all the work put into the uber you already have would fall by the wayside; OR, you could trade a con elixir for a str/dex/int elixir, and boost your already uber char. I think the second will be a lot more common.

July 02, 2003 08:21 pm ET (#42)

FuTyOu
Loyal Fan
73 posts
07-01-02

Oh yeah, did it say how DE's get spells yet?

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