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July 01, 2003 03:34 pm ET - research by amateras

Lineage Part II roadmap

Lineage Playforum posted an interview (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051003&kid=2032) where NCSoft revealed dates for the six episodes in Part 2, as well as what people can look forward to. We'll start referring to the episodes as "Part II Episode 1" instead of "Episode 13" from now on.

Episode 1 - Light and Shadow (Jul 2003)
Introduce Dark Elf Class, floating island, Elixir (an item which permanently raises a stat point, cannot break the stat cap of 25 base, can use this item 5 times)

Episode 2 - Sky and Earth (Nov 2003)
Dark Elf underground world, increase quality of graphics

Episode 3 - Life and Death (summer 2004)
Career system, skill system for different classes, add dark elf area "Diod", new siege system

Episode 4 - Sun and Moon (winter 2004)
Introducing the Underworld. Lastabad? is the Dark Elf capital of the underworld, with a castle, this will be the biggest update for part 2.

Episode 5 - King and Pretender (summer 2005)
Gran Kain giant temple, Dark Dragon, end of the pretender king's story

Episode 6 - God and Human (winter 2005)
Gran Kain's avatar appears

July 01, 2003 03:36 pm ET (#1)

forciano
Loyal Fan
120 posts
10-01-02

hmmmm god and human, Sun and moon o.o sounds good

Pozeidon

July 01, 2003 03:37 pm ET (#2)

Anime
Loyal Fan
212 posts
12-25-02

o.O!!
Elixer rocks

July 01, 2003 03:38 pm ET (#3)

DarkHand
Loyal Fan
30 posts
01-10-03

God it sucks that I was perma banned. Especially since it wasn't entirely my fault. Wonder if they can review case after you've been banned for like a year.

July 01, 2003 03:39 pm ET (#4)

Forsaken
Loyal Fan
87 posts
12-14-02

omg another dragon!

July 01, 2003 03:39 pm ET (#5)

Nennius
Loyal Fan
39 posts
09-09-02

HUH? --> Elixir (an item which permanently raises a stat point, cannot break the stat cap of 25 base, can use this item 5 times)

This sounds kick! Better it will be a super rare drop.

July 01, 2003 03:40 pm ET (#6)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

Well Item use = 1 stat point item go away. But you can only increase stats up to 5 times using this item.

July 01, 2003 03:41 pm ET (#7)

DarkHand
Loyal Fan
30 posts
01-10-03

there are 6 dragons in the Lineage history the light dragon I don't think will ever be in Lineage since Im guessing its a good dragon.

July 01, 2003 03:41 pm ET (#8)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

I think it will be in the lineaeg part 2. We cant have a dark dragon without a light dragon :p

July 01, 2003 03:43 pm ET (#9)

DarkHand
Loyal Fan
30 posts
01-10-03

but the if the light dragon is good there is no point in it being there if you killed it you would go max chatic instantly hehe.

July 01, 2003 03:45 pm ET (#10)

Reiketsukan
Loyal Fan
3 posts
10-15-02

holy shiznit this looks sweet

July 01, 2003 03:47 pm ET (#11)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

wow
Elixir
I can take a guess what drops that
probably SUPER rare from Lich on 50F
ppl would pay over 100s of millions for that item

unless
there is something to it which we don't know of

sounds like the future of lineage is going to be really cool
interested in how the career and skill system will work

July 01, 2003 03:47 pm ET (#12)

Orcide
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-05-01

Just remember half of them items/magic prolly wont be in when it gets released like all other stuff...

July 01, 2003 03:48 pm ET (#13)

IG88C
Loyal Fan
9 posts
10-11-02

elixir a rare drop? you think? this doesnt sound kick-it sounds sick! all the work we do to get 1 measly stat point at level 51 and along comes an item that will give someone 5 stat points? i thot nc wanted to always try to keep the game "balanced". this will make some near godmodeuber characters from those who already are uber characters.

July 01, 2003 03:48 pm ET (#14)

EoLight
Loyal Fan
82 posts
07-03-02

Magic Pot : Gimme Elixir!! Gimme Elixier!!

(the mop in FFVII that you can only beat with elixier thats gives tons of exp and ribbon) <-my favorite FF

July 01, 2003 04:00 pm ET (#15)

Tempo
Loyal Fan
55 posts
04-30-02

elixir is the stupidest idea i ever seen. now wats the use of int mages and strength knights? since u can jus get elixers to max out ur int/str anyways..

lame idea , best not come to live servers

July 01, 2003 04:02 pm ET (#16)

Xdragonelf
Loyal Fan
39 posts
01-18-03

LONG LIVE LINEAGE!!

July 01, 2003 04:08 pm ET (#17)

Yoshiki
Loyal Fan
667 posts
12-13-02

yeah man, those who have lvl str knight to 53 now fok it, con knight way better, cuz u cant raise hp with the elixir -_-
Anyway ep 2 and 3 gonna rock allllllll

July 01, 2003 04:10 pm ET (#18)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Why is everything dark elf based....
First 4 episodes all got something for dark elf. o.O

July 01, 2003 04:10 pm ET (#19)

Onlyone
Loyal Fan
247 posts
02-07-02

hmm sieges elf vs darkelf !?

July 01, 2003 04:12 pm ET (#20)

PebDiGaetano
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-12-02

cool mmm maybe lin 2 can wait

July 01, 2003 04:13 pm ET (#21)

paraqueen
Loyal Fan
152 posts
10-29-02

WOW...I CAN"T WIT TILL 2005~!@!~#@!#

July 01, 2003 04:15 pm ET (#22)

sexytofu
Loyal Fan
32 posts
11-10-02

elixir= uber babo idea, very stupid....makes everyone's hardwork in lvling useless, nc want everyone who is not a con or wis char to remake their characters...since elixir dosent raise mp or hp, everyone gonna be con or wis now...and use elixir, this takes out variety, no fun when there aren't any variety in char making...

July 01, 2003 04:31 pm ET (#23)

JestRique
Loyal Fan
134 posts
05-09-02

lol... all you who say whats the point of int and str chars: you can only use the item once, and you can use elixer's only up to 5 times. -_-;; the best int you could get then, would be 17 int, the best str... im not sure, been awhile since i had an open spot for a knight, but you get my point.

i would rather have lvl 48 int/wis mage with 5 elixers to rase it to 23 int base, + int book and int ammy, id kick your ass with 25 int :)

to all you other ppl: its most likely a very rare drop from a dragon maybe or from a very hard to reach boss. (like toi boss's)so it most likely wont be very common, and wont affect you uber lvl 51+ ppl, except you could use them yourself. also, you all most likely will be the ONLY ones who will be able to get the elixers, because no low level char can make it to that boss. (most likely) so stop complaining. -_-

and if you don't want to use them, im sure somebody would buy them off you for a hella lot of money. X_x

July 01, 2003 04:32 pm ET (#24)

Blahk
Loyal Fan
234 posts
02-02-02

Are you guys really that stupid? What makes you think str or int characters cant add MORE points? or add to dex? 18 int mage..with bo-int/int ammy..and 5 points...thats 25int...ouch? and you guys are acting like goblins will drop them...

July 01, 2003 04:39 pm ET (#25)

loazeus
Loyal Fan
19 posts
09-25-02

ep3=new class -.-

July 01, 2003 04:41 pm ET (#26)

supermario
Loyal Fan
25 posts
04-07-03

LOL it would be awesome for regular elves to take the castle from dark elves HAHAH your bases belong to us!! ^_^

July 01, 2003 04:42 pm ET (#27)

Clipse
Loyal Fan
41 posts
11-27-02

Imagine this, someone gets 5 elixers and starts a brand new con knight, then adds the points with the elixer in strength at lvl 1. That would be pretty amazing. Knight that hits hard as all hell, and has lots of hp, ultimate for hunting bosses.

July 01, 2003 04:51 pm ET (#28)

TCUB3D
Loyal Fan
118 posts
11-06-02

omg lineage1 has a big future...

July 01, 2003 05:02 pm ET (#29)

Kaerid
LC Reporter
46 posts
09-06-02

sweet elixir of the gods.... the one thing I always wished for was a way to increase a few stats before hitting 51 - I thought it would be cool if you could chose a stat each 10 levels, so that everyone (read: casual gamers) could toy with stats a bit without have to play heavily for years.

For those who complain that they wasted time to get to 51, what the heck are you talking about - you'll get to use these too, and still have better stats than lower level players... chances are you'll be the first ones using them as you'll get them as drops and be better able to afford them - after that you'll be selling them to us 'inferior' players...

Heck, this will allow high level players who feel they messed up their stats a chance to try to correct them - it allows all mages who complain about having 2 summons to use 2 elixirs to get 10cha so they can summon 3 if they want... cha princes can put some power into str or dex... and it's limited to 5 uses, so it's not like you can keep increasing forever - you have to get to 51+ to do that.

I wonder how long before someone tries using 5 elixirs on a level 1 character to make a super-con character - didn't Light or someone in Korea show that con above 18 does affect hp level-up gains...?

July 01, 2003 05:06 pm ET (#30)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

if a lvl 1 knight with 18 con uses 5 elixires to increase his CON and levels up to 49, what would his hp be?

July 01, 2003 05:11 pm ET (#31)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

Ruben he would be huge. Thats what i would do if i got 5 elixers. and i would finish off my con too after i got to 52. Would Imagine your hp on that mofo.

July 01, 2003 05:19 pm ET (#32)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

imagine a lvl 1 str knight with 25 con and reaches to lvl 52

the HP with items
my guess is probably 1000+ HP
the knight will be a boss
plus your HP regeneration rate will be amazing
u wouldn't even need pots and just rest for a few seconds

but like I said before
I say Lich drops it VERY rarely
heck
even our US servers don't have a Lich Robe yet
I bet u that group on Ken server that hunts ToI all the time will get it first

July 01, 2003 05:23 pm ET (#33)

Macrossf1
Loyal Fan
49 posts
04-20-02

I say the elixir is going to be a lvl 60+ quest reward, and non-transferrable.

July 01, 2003 05:28 pm ET (#34)

Yoshiki
Loyal Fan
667 posts
12-13-02

Elixir not good I think, it will make classes all go for con or wis. mage will use 18 wis to use elixir on int, elf will use 18 con and use elixir on dex, knight will use 18 con and use elixir on str, prince will not waste an elixir...
Unless it is very rare...

July 01, 2003 05:35 pm ET (#35)

Substance
Loyal Fan
186 posts
09-25-02

lets wait 2 more years

and the elixir fucked up everything...everyone go for con...

July 01, 2003 06:13 pm ET (#36)

Tarrasque
Loyal Fan
18 posts
11-06-02

Everyone go for con? They think they will get 5 elixers? I bet no one gets 1. I'll keep going str.

July 01, 2003 06:15 pm ET (#37)

Tarrasque
Loyal Fan
18 posts
11-06-02

Everyone go for con? They think they will get 5 elixers? I bet no one gets 1. I'll keep going str.

July 01, 2003 06:40 pm ET (#38)

87
Loyal Fan
444 posts
11-28-02

elixier is kinda good but kinda bad
i personally dont like it

they should make it that you can only had 1 elixir to each stat.... which still would be very good, but not insanely good

July 01, 2003 06:51 pm ET (#39)

phil
Loyal Fan
147 posts
04-05-02

lots of people thought rosc would be extremely rare (including myself), and there are already like 10 in US servers and its been out for a week -_-
Elixir prolly dropped from more than Lich on 50f...... Really, why put an item in the game if no one is gonna get it? o.0

July 01, 2003 06:56 pm ET (#40)

RaKuShO
Loyal Fan
23 posts
06-24-02

drops of new items are usually higher when they first out.. then 1 week after they nerf it like mad

July 01, 2003 06:59 pm ET (#41)

Irenicus
Loyal Fan
16 posts
01-15-03

Why not have elixir? hell if I got one I would never sell that. Need to keep this out of rich ppls hands thats all.

July 01, 2003 07:14 pm ET (#42)

RockOfAges
Loyal Fan
18 posts
06-23-03

WHOO! GUYS I THINK WE YOU ARE JUMPING THE GUN
first i think it is ovious that the elixer is a double edge knife
they will probly make it a quest item for like 55 or 60 i mean think, from lvl one use an elixer wen u get to 50... well... yeah... like NC would alow that
it would be like putting an ancent sword and -60 ac on a lvl 1 knite or giving disintagrat to a lvl 1 mage think about it

July 01, 2003 07:15 pm ET (#43)

RockOfAges
Loyal Fan
18 posts
06-23-03

by double edge knife i mean like it may be good but i bet it has a huge drawback

July 01, 2003 07:17 pm ET (#44)

Ninjai
Loyal Fan
23 posts
12-08-02

I think Guardian Armor will drop elixir, my guess

July 01, 2003 07:21 pm ET (#45)

Asland
Loyal Fan
114 posts
04-23-02

#42

hahaha we all know a lvl 1 knight cant use an a-sword since u have to be lvl 45 to use and u need lvl40 mage to use destroy

July 01, 2003 07:46 pm ET (#46)

flexy24k
Loyal Fan
215 posts
12-10-02

Woot!!! Summer 2004 new siege system!!!!! Wonder how t hey'll work out the career system...

I think most of U are jumping the gun and complaining about the elixir. Let's wait and see the details about it before we start whining... Most likely it'll be very rare and probably non-transferable. But if U can transfer it, I'd make a new DE, go to phantasm island, lvl up, and then kick all ur booties!!! =)~
Actually, it's prolly a rare drop from some uber mop on Phantasm Island... X.X

~K~

July 01, 2003 07:56 pm ET (#47)

tamashii
Loyal Fan
77 posts
02-03-03

I think the implementation of the elixir could be very nice indeed.

(EDIT: Good point #42- there will probably be a level restriction on the use of the Elixir. If that is true, then there would be no real issues.)

First, I don't think low level players will be getting any elixirs for some time � especially at the start. If anything, even high level players (and I mean 50+) are going to be hoarding these or selling them. My guess is hoarding. Why? Because they will undoubtedly want to do what some of you have already mentioned. That being to create a new character with some insane stat, most likely Wis/Con because they affect your MP/HP gains as you level. Imagine a level 50 Knight that has a base CON of 23. At a rate of 50 hp (top end gain for leveling from 1-50) for each POINT in CON (18 CON yields a level 50 knight with a top end average of 624 HP � 17 CON yields top end average of 575 HP), there is a potential for a level 50 Knight with 23 CON to possibly have almost 900 HP. That's pretty incredible. Once they hit 52, they could have pumped those 2 remaining points into CON to get their 25 CON. Within about 5 more levels, you have level 52, 1000HP Knights running amok - before items. Who cares about how strong you are or your dexterity when nothing can kill you because you have so many hitpoints and regenerate them faster than they can damage you for.

Second, you can only use 5 Elixirs (from what I gather, that is a finite amount for 1 character). Once you have used 5 of them, the best you can do is sell them or hoard for yet another character. This seems like a nice balance to me in that you won't have people with all their stats pumped to 25 at level 1. Imagine that if we could use more than 5 Elixirs. Some fool creates a new character and chugs 1 billion dollars worth of Elixirs that he has saved up. He would start out as a God - putting the hurt on Bosses when he is level 5. No, I think putting the limit of 5 on them makes it a great item because now the average player now has the potential to experience the joy of increasing a stat before they are 51. Let's be realistic, the high levels are going to be the ones getting it and they are going to create new characters to use them on, unless they are WAAAAAY up there, in which case they may just use 'em on their current character. If I had a level 60, I don't think I would create a new character, but who knows.

LC - I think you guys need to adjust your Calculator for HP/MP gain. It will not allow anyone to enter a CON total of anything over 18 CON. As this new item will undoubtedly be used at least once to create a character with a CON/WIS higher than what you can initially create a character with.

I would like to see NC make a balance on the items, that increase your CON/WIS stats, and allow them to affect your HP/MP level gains. Example: Any item that increases your CON stat to any degree should be factored in when you level. If your CON base is 18 and you are wearing an item that is a +1 to CON, then if you are wearing it when you level, your HP gain will reflect that. In most cases, regeneration speed of Mana or HP is rather pointless as you are most likely not fighting at the time you are trying to regen. I don't think this should happen if a Spell or Potion is used to increase your stat temporarily.

I am very interested to hear more about the Career system. I very much like the idea of having a career, so-to-speak, in this game. As well as a skill system. All very interesting stuff coming down the pipe. What is the difference between the Underground World in L2EP2 and Underworld in L2EP4? If there is to be an end to the Pretender King's story, does that mean there will be an end to the need for a Prince class? Or will their story just evolve to accommodate.

So many questions, so much time before the answers become available...

-t

July 01, 2003 07:58 pm ET (#48)

ryuha
Loyal Fan
3 posts
07-12-02

Check it out guys!.
NEw Skills system.. Career systems.. wow wow wow

July 01, 2003 08:14 pm ET (#49)

K1DA
Loyal Fan
49 posts
10-24-02

Gran Kain ^_^

July 01, 2003 08:21 pm ET (#50)

flexy24k
Loyal Fan
215 posts
12-10-02

Woot!!! Summer 2004 new siege system!!!!! Wonder how t hey'll work out the career system...

I think most of U are jumping the gun and complaining about the elixir. Let's wait and see the details about it before we start whining... Most likely it'll be very rare and probably non-transferable. But if U can transfer it, I'd make a new DE, go to phantasm island, lvl up, and then kick all ur booties!!! =)~
Actually, it's prolly a rare drop from some uber mop on Phantasm Island... X.X

~K~

July 01, 2003 08:45 pm ET (#51)

BlueSkye
Loyal Fan
9 posts
06-19-02

Forget Elixers , CAREER SYSTEM AND SKILL SYSTEM ? Item Manufacture ? DAMN THAT ROCKS. haha nov 2003 is last update ill see thou , cuz after that next one is summer 04 haha T_T

July 01, 2003 10:29 pm ET (#52)

JestRique
Loyal Fan
134 posts
05-09-02

too bad lin II is coming out soon~ :) not.

July 02, 2003 12:54 am ET (#53)

xLondonBroilx
Loyal Fan
200 posts
10-02-01

#47 tamashii -- Very nice post. I might have to come back to scope things out. Any old friends of mine still play that could get me started with a bone set and a damascus? ;)

July 02, 2003 02:16 am ET (#54)

amateras
LC Admin
83 posts
10-01-01

Although this hasn't been confirmed, Elixir is a floating island item. I don't think it's dropped by Lich or forgotten island mops. My guess is that they are dropped by mop(s) on the floating island. Floating island mops can be very strong or very weak so it's probably not going to be easy hunting, but since there's no death penalty, who care?

July 02, 2003 03:32 am ET (#55)

Elric
Loyal Fan
337 posts
10-29-02

if i were a mage i would get int and up my int with elixir to 25 with items, and own all o_O

July 02, 2003 04:04 am ET (#56)

Yoshiki
Loyal Fan
667 posts
12-13-02

Nice amateras, that clears some things ^^;

July 02, 2003 06:52 am ET (#57)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Don't mind me if this has been said already... I don't want to read all these posts.
They should have these elixers capped at every 10 levels, so there won't be lvl 1 uber con knights, and as an award for achieving each level milestone (okay... lvl 10-40 isn't really a milestone but that's an idea o.O)

July 02, 2003 02:37 pm ET (#58)

Elric
Loyal Fan
337 posts
10-29-02

#_~

July 03, 2003 12:23 pm ET (#59)

Shinoda
Loyal Fan
66 posts
03-17-03

#13, if anything it will probably hurt the 50+ chars, be cause they couldn't add those 5 to CON when they made their character.

Imagine a full con DE with 5 con elixirs... Weak offensively but good exp compared to all others..

July 14, 2003 07:28 am ET (#60)

BlueVision
Loyal Fan
12 posts
09-16-02

Hmmm... Level restriction i.e. 45 on elixir?

August 02, 2003 11:32 pm ET (#61)

Goshen
Loyal Fan
10 posts
05-07-03

Now All we need is Spectral Elixer like in d1 to add 1 stat point to each stat

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