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June 18, 2003 09:32 am ET - research by Dlirk
Cloning in Werldern

An interesting occurrence happened today in Werldern town. During a fight between the BlueDragons bloodpledge and the Firstlove bloodpledge, several players were killed, but not really. It seemed that for some reason doubles of certain players were created and bodies can be seen even though the player was standing perfectly fine next to it. When the clone is hit you turn pink, and you go chaotic if you kill it. The clone cannot be tamed or healed. Above we see Tissot, who has apparently learned to copy himself.

June 18, 2003 09:34 am ET (#1)
NeOnRaVe
Loyal Fan

29 posts
12-10-02

ummmmmm interesting but not healthy

June 18, 2003 09:36 am ET (#2)
Darkkat
Loyal Fan

5 posts
10-30-02

wonder how nc let this happen O.o;;

June 18, 2003 09:38 am ET (#3)
Samwise
Loyal Fan

57 posts
05-07-02

Yeah So are these players going to be banned for exploiting a bug? Looks like a bug being exploited to me, but hey what do i know. I hope NC actually warns ppl this time instead of just banning them immediately

June 18, 2003 09:41 am ET (#4)
dunti
Loyal Fan

19 posts
10-23-02

I don't think it is a bug they "exploited" so much as somthing that happened to them. One player mentioned that his Lineage client froze, he force quit, reloged on and there he was, a clone of him in original spot.

June 18, 2003 09:41 am ET (#5)
Darkkat
Loyal Fan

5 posts
10-30-02

Ahah why warn these bug exploiters..they should all be baned ^_^

June 18, 2003 09:42 am ET (#6)
Nitrogun
Loyal Fan

229 posts
03-17-02

Ok.... lets see how many people NC is gonna BAN now...

June 18, 2003 09:42 am ET (#7)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

The clones were created by the server, players merely died and it was some kind of weird server phenomena.

Can we stop commenting on every news post with the "this is an exploit, will they be banned?". It actually hurts the case of the players who were banned if everything is called an exploit. NC will just stop listening to us if we continue to "cry wolf".

June 18, 2003 09:44 am ET (#8)
Darkkat
Loyal Fan

5 posts
10-30-02

Wow..heh i was just joking O.O

June 18, 2003 09:45 am ET (#9)
Forge
LC Reporter

150 posts
12-12-01

neo, i hope you learn how to fly
mr smith is coming for you, all of him are coming for you

June 18, 2003 09:47 am ET (#10)
dunti
Loyal Fan

19 posts
10-23-02

Also there was an "emergency" server reset last night. I would assume this was to fix that problem. Is reset still scheduled for today? Also what ever happen to fruit juice update?

June 18, 2003 09:48 am ET (#11)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

ok first of all why do u ppl want your fellow game players to be banned, the more ppl banned the less players making the game having lower revenue and it will be boring if the game had like 50 ppl left playing it c'mon support ppl in matters like this

second thing, what server was this on?

June 18, 2003 09:50 am ET (#12)
Darkkat
Loyal Fan

5 posts
10-30-02

Ehh why are u ppl so jumpy with the word "banned" take a chill pill it will be ok ^_^;;

June 18, 2003 09:52 am ET (#13)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

I HOPE THEY WONT GET BANNED, lol i so envy the korean servers those guys stick up for each other thats why they got lvls 70+ chrs unlike us servers ^^

June 18, 2003 10:07 am ET (#14)
Carrington
Loyal Fan

133 posts
10-08-01

This was no mere accident, you couldn't really create a clone by accident (well i'm sure the 1st person did though) because its a coi bug. u put on coi have someone stand in your place, then uncoi, force quit then log back on and viola u have 2 of yourself.

and for all the people who say this isn't exploiting see some of the screen shots that were taken when there were 50 of the same person on the screen at once. Tell me again how that isn't exploiting and i'll give u an adena.

June 18, 2003 10:08 am ET (#15)
Beavis
Loyal Fan

127 posts
03-31-02

They get lvl 70+ cuz they fell on their head and something snapped after they were born....

June 18, 2003 10:09 am ET (#16)
EdBoss
Loyal Fan

29 posts
05-20-03

well im playing test atm and client keeps kicking me to windows every 50secs -10mins so guess i cant play -_-

June 18, 2003 10:12 am ET (#17)
Yoshiki
Loyal Fan

667 posts
12-13-02

Its was not a bug related to player, i saw one guy die his corpse on ground, i was thinking "is he gonna restart or what?" then he came walking from town, while the corpse still was there. He didnt even force quit or something...just restart but the corpse stand still.
Edit: This means its was not manipulated by player.

June 18, 2003 10:13 am ET (#18)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

No one will be banned. Nc doesnt ban sol memebers remember. This was an exploit, and it was abused heavily. People made a ton of clones and blocked off entire areas of fire vally. Like the above poster said, there was really no way to do this "accidently" and you couldnt do it alone unless you had more then 1 account.

June 18, 2003 10:13 am ET (#19)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

lol beavis maybe you're right ^^

June 18, 2003 10:17 am ET (#20)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

omg you guys are so messed in the head what exactly do you want for a 100 lvl 50+ player to be banned from all servers?

if its a bug its above all NCI's fault for letting something like this slip through.

lemme see if i can make an analogy....

to me its like putting a speed limit on how fast your allowed to run a marathon ^^

if NCI over-saw this bug maybe they should be the ones who need a wake up call, and get better game testers and programmers a-durrr....

June 18, 2003 10:21 am ET (#21)
Yoshiki
Loyal Fan

667 posts
12-13-02

There was 3 clones of puccax and a lot of fun. ^_^;

June 18, 2003 10:26 am ET (#22)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

I believe when someone accidently discovered this bug
it was reported to NC right away
so no one is going to get banned here
not like these clones will fight back against u
so no real harm
I'm sure ppl had fun making clones and looking upon all the dead bodies laying around the place hehe

besides
y would ppl want ppl banned.....?
that would mean less ppl on the server and less fun...
unless they quit lin already and just coming back to remind the community of what happened in the past over and over again.....

June 18, 2003 10:35 am ET (#23)
gamer3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-11-02

Ya well im not sure what it was but their was also a female mage (i forgot the name) but she had 4 doubles of herself,one was on ground dead 2 was standing around and of course herself who was talking at the time,i thought it was so weired i took a snapshot....but now i have to find a viewer so i can see it.

June 18, 2003 10:40 am ET (#24)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

PuccaX discovered the bug, and reported it immediately.

If you care to look at the comments on the last news article (the update one), I did mention the bug.

Maybe I should get a host so I can put up some very incriminating screenshots for everyone to view.

June 18, 2003 10:54 am ET (#25)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

Alright, I made an account at geocities. Blah.

http://www.geocities.com/linscreenshots

June 18, 2003 11:04 am ET (#26)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

I must of imagined that huge line of people on fire vally beach huh `_`

June 18, 2003 11:05 am ET (#27)
Sorelore
Loyal Fan

75 posts
01-28-02

Wow, i think this is pretty funny indeed. But i would hate to have to fight 5 DK of the same person.

June 18, 2003 11:06 am ET (#28)
Yoshiki
Loyal Fan

667 posts
12-13-02

lol Yeah sorry dont misunderstand me also, I want no one to get banned.
Apologyze, that line of ppl must been after I log out --; Im gonna edit the other post.

June 18, 2003 11:07 am ET (#29)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

NCI is soooo stupid for not "TESTING" this on "TEST SERVER" before updating straight to live servers, geee.... idiot NCI

June 18, 2003 11:07 am ET (#30)
Ladymay
Loyal Fan

5 posts
05-12-03

No, He is SoL so he won't get banned for sure.

June 18, 2003 11:22 am ET (#31)
Anime
Loyal Fan

212 posts
12-25-02

lol
When i logged on to go hunt i saw a dead Tissot..
and then a PuccaX
I was like o.O must be a good fight lol...
never knew they were jsut clones

June 18, 2003 11:25 am ET (#32)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

lol anime sounds like your wishing for a good fight ^^ JK

June 18, 2003 11:27 am ET (#33)
Clipse
Loyal Fan

41 posts
11-27-02

Hello Mr Anderson lol...........that movie owns

June 18, 2003 11:28 am ET (#34)
Bishop
Loyal Fan

42 posts
04-30-02

This conversation has become silly. There is no exploit because there is nothing gained by having a clone just standing in a town. It's not like people were creating clones and killing mops with these clones.

No one is getting banned and nothing is going to happen so just stop talking about it.

June 18, 2003 11:39 am ET (#35)
PinPointy
Loyal Fan

54 posts
05-02-02

Same Thing happened to Teckademics on LoA, FC pledge saw him in TI 2f ended by the stairs...and thought it was him o.o. And another one in DM too lol

June 18, 2003 11:40 am ET (#36)
Haleft
Loyal Fan

53 posts
10-18-02

sh** of programmers...

June 18, 2003 11:42 am ET (#37)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

Bishop, I'm betting its a hell of a lot easier to hunt when quite a few people are blocked off from your hunting grounds.

June 18, 2003 12:01 pm ET (#38)
Circus
Loyal Fan

62 posts
11-06-02

Well people say you got super good exp for killing the clones because they were the same level as the player.... said a 49 person got like .04....if this is indeed true the exploiters of this better be banned!!! NC's zero tolerance policy better come into affect since they banned all our friends for the prat incident...

June 18, 2003 12:04 pm ET (#39)
XHighLandeRx
Loyal Fan

16 posts
06-07-02

i feel bad when i heard paldos get banned for somekind of explioting bugs.
i told nci that i feel that its the fault of programmers not the players if someone were to be blamed, but they didn't say much to me. I don't think of anyone would deserve any ban in this circumstances. Just NC should remove it asap.

June 18, 2003 12:24 pm ET (#40)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

Circus

shhhh up pls you talk like an idiot, 'they should be banned' its all NCI's fault from the begining for having dumbass programmers who made that mistake if any should be banned/fired it should the NCI programmers first then players..

and another thing banning without warning is pure communisn, its un-orthadocs (i think thats how you spell it ^^)

P.S. i want my coi ability back ...:(

June 18, 2003 12:26 pm ET (#41)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

i think if anybody should be peanilized for this ever happening, its the NCI programming staff first..... then players


P.S. i want my coi ability back soooooon :(

June 18, 2003 12:28 pm ET (#42)
Foo
Loyal Fan

43 posts
11-19-02

it doesnt matter what the bug exploited is.. NO TOLERANCE is supposedly NCs rule for bug exploitation, PEROID. It was a bug, they exploited it. I saw DOZENS of baphos in FV... tell me thats not bug exploitation.
Will they get banned? probably not.. why? cuz they sol -_-
ZERO TOLERANCE for bug exploits.. i expect prompt banns

OH yea metroid05 it was NCs fault for putting in the Pandora bug wasnt it? Oh yeaaaaaah but doezens were banned anyways? same thing here so shut up cuz all those ppl were banned without warning

June 18, 2003 12:31 pm ET (#43)
Tissot
Loyal Fan

180 posts
06-22-02

 :
 
 
 
To avoid the state of rumors, I'll explain at this tempel gathering what happen to me yesterday on eastside of fire valley bridge.

There was a hugh fight in werldern south gate, and due to the fact i dont like to hit innocent players I stayed out of the fight and only healed the poor souls that was bloodstains from turning into corps.

When the fight escaleted i went for a quick strool to have a look at the worn out battlefield, somehow my invisablespell malfunctioned and i quit lineage. Later when i pluged myself into the system again, something that i didnt understand had happen to me, perhaps somehting overwriten or copied, that is at this point irrelevent, what matter is that i was compeeled to stay, compeeled to disobey.

Now here I stand guarding my ghost clone for 4 hours straight.
We do only what we are ment to do, and I send five red-pill-eater-tresspassers back to the machine mainframe.

I pleed to the monitor26 to reset server, but only got a kind response to calm me down.

Finally a own pledgemember backstabbed me and killed the ghost clone while i was in town restocking supplies.
 :
 
 
 

June 18, 2003 12:36 pm ET (#44)
Samwise
Loyal Fan

57 posts
05-07-02

AMER i dont comment on every single new post that its a bug and will they get banned. However this is an exploit whether ppl believe it or not. Hmmm lvl 50+ chars getting .04% exp everytime they kill their own clone sounds like one hell of an exploit to me. Whether the original clones were created by the server or by a character is irrelevant to this case. The bottom line is even though ppl knew it was a bug they continued to reproduce it.

June 18, 2003 12:40 pm ET (#45)
WraithFire
Loyal Fan

54 posts
12-06-02

Foo chill out, your whining about NC's double-standards are only proff of your own double-standards. Before when your guys were caught you pleaded that they did nothing wrong and it wasn't there fault. I don't think they should've been banned either btw. Anyways you said it was the programmers fault, etc.. Now that a bug has developed that you can try to point fingers at your enemies with, now it is all of the sudden a bannable offense? I'm sorry, but please stick to one story or the other, either say that ppl should be banned for exploiting bugs (even if they are harmless like pandora) or they shouldn't because it's NC's own fault. The only reason you think ppl should be banned this time is because you saw the ss of tissot with a clone and most importantly an SoL emblem on it. You don't care about fairness you care about fairness in relation to the persons standing with you, that is petty. Believe me plenty of paldo "exploited" this bug too by your definition of exploit.

June 18, 2003 12:43 pm ET (#46)
Samwise
Loyal Fan

57 posts
05-07-02

Wow WraithFire im surprised you are so Adept at reading peoples minds yet you continue to waste your time on a game message board instead of using your amazing talent to profit for yourself. Kudos to you!

June 18, 2003 12:46 pm ET (#47)
protagonist
Loyal Fan

8 posts
12-01-02

theres a bug likme this all servers....moonwalk...duplicates yourself if you moonwalk backwards for a long periode of time and restart...

June 18, 2003 12:48 pm ET (#48)
Samwise
Loyal Fan

57 posts
05-07-02

I noticed someone posted that becuz it was reported quickly ppl wouldnt get banned. Well i must also say the pandora bug was reported very quickly also. Most ppl never knew about the Pandora bug until they read about it on lineage-us.com own message boards. Just because a bug is reported doesnt make it ok for you to exploit it.

June 18, 2003 12:48 pm ET (#49)
PebDiGaetano
Loyal Fan

103 posts
10-12-02

if some one is chao and makes a clone of them selves and the clone is ended does the clone drop????

June 18, 2003 12:55 pm ET (#50)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

so sol uses bug like the ojs pot in oren and fi and dont get banned paldo uses bprat and get banned and now this happens and noone gets banned? o.O

FUCK U ALL GARBAGE NC

nc is worst company ever lucky they got me hooked but if i knew this before starting yrs ago i wouldent have played i rather let blizzard own lineage they much better company.

June 18, 2003 12:56 pm ET (#51)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

Metroid05->

Communism is the idea of everyone sharing everything, working together for everything, and having no government. Banning without warning is not communism pure, tainted, or diluted. Perhaps you were thinking of "fascism"? Although fascism wouldn't be quite accurate either.

June 18, 2003 01:02 pm ET (#52)
Neo
Loyal Fan

219 posts
12-05-01

zero tolerance *hint hint* =)
nice story tissot , as always.

Neo

June 18, 2003 01:03 pm ET (#53)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

Metroid05 what the hell are you talking about, when i first played test server, it was so god damn fun, because there was only less then 70 people online because of some funny lag. The whole server was fighting all the time because was nothing else better to do. every time you went hunting there would be like separate gems, adena, and anything that was suppose to stack. everyone that was already online was afraid to log off because if they did they couldn't log back on. we tricked a few people to log off and the number got smaller and smaller, lol!

June 18, 2003 01:04 pm ET (#54)
Tissot
Loyal Fan

180 posts
06-22-02

Neo: #52
 
 
 
 
I really dont need this attention, and i dont want this false attention it and most importent of all I didnt gave my approval of it.

                  -Go read the manual!
 
 
 

June 18, 2003 01:04 pm ET (#55)
Ashtray
Loyal Fan

55 posts
10-03-02

Totalitarianism is what you're looking for...

Oh yea...OMG LOOK TISSOT IS EXPLOITING A BUG!!! BAN HIM BAN HIM!!! \./ o_o

June 18, 2003 01:05 pm ET (#56)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

i wonder if that person if he was chaotic killed his clone, would he get drops from his cloned character, because its like cloning items, i wonder if they would drop the items they had, would be funny though if you could, lol!~

June 18, 2003 01:16 pm ET (#57)
aupairKing
Loyal Fan

320 posts
03-11-02

I think its time we wiped all the servers and started over, we can have an NPC named Noah show up, let it start raining for 40 days and then WAALLAAUUHH!!! A new world!!!

June 18, 2003 01:22 pm ET (#58)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

its nc fault for having this bug, and the people who found out about this bug should be banned, all that did it should be banned. i think nc should ban all! nc already losing money why don't they just lose some more. banning seems to work for nc anyway. of course anyway nc not going to ban sol like the way they banned paldo because any bug that is used by sol isn't a bug any bug that is used by paldo is. just say Archpaladin cloned himself = banned and BBknights cloned himself = BBknights says "Muhahahaha, nc is licking my ballz, that's why i don't get banned!"

June 18, 2003 01:35 pm ET (#59)
dafish
Loyal Fan

176 posts
11-17-01

NC's got a pretty simple rule.

if it is a bug and it was not reported, ban player.

if it was reported, that player is fine.

i think tissot is ok since he msg'd a monitor. however it is hard to resist to have fun with something unusual happening in the game, in this case the clones. there has been many mops that freeze up for no reason, and that u cannot kill. why don't u ban those players who hit it for fun? that's exploiting a bug in the game! >=(

lineage has been relatively cheat free compared to many other online games *ahem CS ahem D2 ahem* so just chill out.

so much hate in this world =p

June 18, 2003 02:04 pm ET (#61)
K1DA
Loyal Fan

49 posts
10-24-02

WHat a surprise... Its a SoL member..

ban them all... thats such an exploit it isnt even funny

Some of us get banned for stupid reasons.. other people are obviously exploiting things or breaking the rules and they are not.. how fair is that?

June 18, 2003 02:25 pm ET (#62)
Circus
Loyal Fan

62 posts
11-06-02

What do you have to say to this big mouth 101??? Ouch that sux.....zzz

http://www.geocities.com/linscreenshots

June 18, 2003 02:27 pm ET (#63)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

k 1o1 now wdf are u talking about? 6 c la? is that some sort of floor?

and whats pok guy plz i wanna know...

BAN SOL LIKE THEY BAN PALDO! O YEA FORGOT NC = SOL's BITCHES

btw whats the story behind NEO vs Tissot? they ws such good friends now they enemies both mages both diff types of mages but NEO can own tissot in my view now if NEO 55.

June 18, 2003 02:30 pm ET (#64)
Samwise
Loyal Fan

57 posts
05-07-02

let me restate when the prat thing happened it was reported but people were still banned for it.

June 18, 2003 03:10 pm ET (#65)
MrTiM
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-20-02

Neo will be in trouble in Matrix Revolutions anyways.. because Mr Smith gains the powers like Neo.. O.o

June 18, 2003 03:27 pm ET (#66)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

that pic that circus took is showing you that how they exploited the bug and they should be banned for that. i agree 100% with the banning (if) they even do it. they blocked half of fv so people can't hunt, isn't that distrubing game play, that's some what like greif play isn't it?

June 18, 2003 03:35 pm ET (#67)
Elric
Loyal Fan

337 posts
10-29-02

ban all who made a clone and i'll become the strongest on server 'cause i think im the only coi owner that didnt made one clone!! BANBAN!!! zzz

June 18, 2003 03:51 pm ET (#68)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

http://www.geocities.com/linscreenshots
look at this screenshot and tell me its not a violation of these two rule of conduct.
Rule of Conduct

1.While playing Lineage, (you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game). To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or (cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players).

18.(You will not exploit any bug in Lineage and you will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug ([bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits])) either directly or through public posting, to any other user of Lineage. Bugs should be promptly reported via 'Ask A Question' at http://support.lineage.com.

look at those ss and tell me that they didn't cause distress to other players. they made a blocade so people can't hunt properly and don't tell me this is not a exploit of a bug and don't tell me they didn't tell other people about it because the whole pledge was doing it. and this does give users unnatural benefit because they created dupes of themselves.

June 18, 2003 03:56 pm ET (#69)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

1o1 speak english and stop swearing, you should learn how to read, what does the rule say in LC, its just right under where you typed your nonesense
1.Do not use sexually explicit, hateful, or racially (offensive language).
4.Please (post in English.)

June 18, 2003 03:58 pm ET (#70)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

Bunch of hypocritical jerks crying like little girls...

June 18, 2003 04:23 pm ET (#71)
III
Loyal Fan

10 posts
04-13-02

NC ban Tissot, he used the bug. And ban all those that played with the bug. It's from the agreement. haha, now NC is doing not fair stupid things.

June 18, 2003 04:26 pm ET (#72)
Instinctive
Loyal Fan

7 posts
01-23-03

Hmmm... lets see i have pictures of paldo and blue dragon who exploited it just as well should i post those pics too hmm thinking thinking...

June 18, 2003 05:30 pm ET (#73)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

did yonate get banned? you can't see him on linweb.zzzz one down a few more sol to go. lol!! sounds good to me!

June 18, 2003 05:35 pm ET (#74)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

i say ban em all u! if they banned paldo before why wouldent they bann paldo now? but sol should go down with them tooo for all the cheating they did too.

and flexy24 u still play? i dont c u? who u call crybaby when paldo got banned ur ppl said ban ban ban now its my turn u weak asss knight.

June 18, 2003 05:38 pm ET (#75)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

bah if yonate got banned thats too bad he was actually one of my only friends in sol ban jaijai and tissot and rest!

June 18, 2003 05:39 pm ET (#76)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

haha!!! go to linweb and try to check if you can see his character, it says something like, this account is no longer active or something like that

June 18, 2003 06:30 pm ET (#77)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

our lin community is hopeless.....

now ppl want ppl banned....
geez....

I think sol should disband the pledge so everyone goes into another pledge for awhile...
so ppl can shut up...
if the pledge don't exist....
no one will bitch....

June 18, 2003 07:19 pm ET (#78)
MinCho_from_Dep
Loyal Fan

19 posts
05-11-03

haha if tissot is agent smith then we gonna see neo (the other lvl 52 mage on dep) fighting him ^_^

like 80% of the comment on every new are about the bann thing, I'm really tired of that. It's so annoying

June 18, 2003 07:21 pm ET (#79)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

kzsm it isnt sol mainly is the bitches from sol. and those who said dont unbann paldo i want those to burn in hell........ also 1o1 :D

June 18, 2003 07:30 pm ET (#80)
FuriKuri
Loyal Fan

39 posts
06-25-02

the ones that should be banned are those who saw that when you kill a clone it gives you exp and they started to kill other clones.
And this is only in the case that they give you exp, i don't think that they give exp -o-;; and 0.04% to kill a lvl 50 at lvl 49???? lol you will gain 0.01% with some luck

June 18, 2003 07:44 pm ET (#81)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

Ex-Con, who the hell are you? And who are "my people?" "Your people" were the ones who were complaining that the original bans were unfair. Now you want NC to ban more people? Sounds pretty hypocritical to me... U gotta remember t his, not everyone who used this bug were doing it to gain from it. Some people ended up with clones of their char on accident. Some people thought it was funny to make clones. Some people were making them and killing them for %. Some people were using them to block off certain areas. Some people used them to make other people chao so they could pk them and maybe get drops. Not everyone who used this bug s hould be banned. Maybe you s hould actually think before you type.......
Nothing personal, but I've never said anything bad about you man... If you wanna be an a$$ about it then fine. That's your decision.

June 18, 2003 07:48 pm ET (#82)
Circus
Loyal Fan

62 posts
11-06-02

101 account is no longer there either.....ah oh....zzZZZ

couldn't happen to a nicer guy....

Hey 101, that must hurt eh? especially after you paid all that RL money for that t-shirt....hehe...should have bought something in real life with your real life money.....><

June 18, 2003 07:55 pm ET (#83)
K1DA
Loyal Fan

49 posts
10-24-02

ban ban ban... This is ridiculous. I cant believe they havent already been banned...

I got banned for swearing, and these people who are causing massive gameplay disruptions are still running around.

Did anyone else hear something about SoL having someone on the inside who works for NC?

June 18, 2003 09:12 pm ET (#84)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

Maybe the reason no one is banned yet, is because they are giving everyone time to switch items to another account o_o

June 18, 2003 09:34 pm ET (#85)
WraithFire
Loyal Fan

54 posts
12-06-02

Whoa everyone slow down, first off k1da i'm pretty sure you were banned for attempting to sell your account on ebay, at least thats what fca posted on their website with some incriminating ss's. Maybe they were made up, guess you should take that up with them.

Excon do you even know what your saying? flexy IS NOT SoL. Who are his ppl? Well I'll tell you one thing I would consider myself one of "those ppl" and I think you are whining too. Before, everyone talked about how they thought NC should lighten up and not ban the ppl for the Pandora bug. If someone really got lots of exp thats a big deal, but other than that this bug was even less harmful than the pandora bug. Blocking off fv isn't cool and ppl should be punished for that. This just shows that ppl's opinions about rules are greatly influenced by who the rules involve. You want NC to go easy on your ppl and be as harsh as they can be on your enemies. Contrary to your belief I'm not SoL either, I still do have friends there though; I'm just shocked about how ppl are still using title's "Unban Them" and posting on templar about how NC shouldn't be so strict and the second they think they have something on someone they don't like their whole mindset changes. If your beliefs change that easily they are not as strong and have less validity if you change your mindset so drastically in 1 months time.

June 18, 2003 09:58 pm ET (#86)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

That's my Dogg!!! =)

Strength & Honor - What U know about that???

June 19, 2003 12:17 am ET (#87)
jonchillin230
Loyal Fan

3 posts
06-03-03

I think the main thing everyone wants is consistency. I could be wrong, but its not very fair when people break the same rules and dont get treated the same. Whomever's side it may be.

June 19, 2003 01:04 am ET (#88)
WraithFire
Loyal Fan

54 posts
12-06-02

I agree with the consistency thing, it's only fair to be able to understand consequences. On that note if NC is going to be consistent then everyone should put away the "Unban Them" titles because ppl would want NC to enforce their rules. The intentions of the Pandora exploit were to make money, this bug actually seems kinda funny to me and in my view shouldn't be a big deal with the obvious exception of ppl that intentionally made clones and killed them to get fast exp (that advancement is just as wrong as the advancement of money in the Pandora incident, I know that not much was made, but the INTENT was to make money). I just don't agree with this whole SoL conspiring with NC thing. I mean no one really has proof. People say they do, but they really don't. Honestly why would NC benefit from helping a specific pledge in their game? They are a professional business and if it doesn't benefit them, then why do it? I garuntee that no one in NC is in SoL, I think they could see problems with joining a pledge that powerful and getting rumors started. I mean really what's next? Wearing aluminum hats to keep NC from stealing ideas out of your head? How about smashing your TV because NC uses it to monitor your life? Or what about just adjusting your entire enjoyment of an online GAME and focussing on something that supposedly ruins the game for you, and in the end your paranoia does absolutely nothing constructive, doesn't change the game, and just takes the fun out of it? (Suprisingly people think this last one makes alot of sense)

June 19, 2003 01:25 am ET (#89)
Kill you
Loyal Fan

46 posts
04-09-02

ok... i dont post here much but let me say this. WraithFire has some good points but the problem is as said consistency. I dont really believe in people getting banned for the pandora incident because -
1)it was NC's fault for changing the price so stupidly without seeing the consequences that will result from the price change... which is not very hard to see.
2)The intentional price change was made and put into the live servers and therefore it even be considered a bug.. Sure people could buy and sell to gain profit, but isnt that just economics... its smart if you ask me. Although that wasnt the real intentions of the change, its nothing to ban many people for. All they had to do was change it back and maybe take away the profits gained from the "bug."

This is not my point tho... BECAUSE those people were banned for exploiting a "bug," the people that exploited this new bug should get the same treatment. Even tho the people may seem like having double standards... tahts not really the case because NC will definately not unban those people... all they really want some justice. If they were to be unbaned, im sure many of the people now saying BAN THEM.. will change there mind.

Of course they cannot ban everyone who used the bug since some were accidents, and some just wanted to try it out. But others who used it for there gain, like blocking off parts of hunting places... and getting exp should definately get banned. There was a real bug(not just some screw up by NC in there update), and these people intentionally used the bug benefit from it.

Think about it this way.. would it be fairer to ban some people for exploiting a bug and leave others alone for the same thing... Or Keep to there words of zero tolerance and ban these people as well?

June 19, 2003 01:42 am ET (#90)
Puertorico
Loyal Fan

3 posts
01-29-03

True, this was a bug and true some ppl exploited it cause if you mean to tell me that you could not get the point that you were cloning yourself after the first 2 clones then you are just dumb. I only saw one clone of Tissot so I tend to beilieve the fact that his may have been a accident but there were lots of ppl out there that just got clone happy. I saw some ppl that had like 4-5 clones in different areas of FV and I think I even saw one person that cloned himslef like 4 times in one place, think it was Kuddles and that one mage puxac or what ever. I think that if any banning is gona be done it should be the ones that cloned themselves to the point where it was obvious that they knew what they were doing.

BTW, Tissot and NEO, I thought you 2 were best buds what the hell happend?

June 19, 2003 02:05 am ET (#91)
PuccaX
Loyal Fan

3 posts
06-11-03

Hey puertorico -o- i am puccax not puxac u babo. and i didn't even mean to make those clones actually. i was fighting and hiding in COI, and tried to cancel and detect for others. i didn't know COI was making that bug.. i first thought it was a lag that was causing it. and if u want me to get banned AmazingKiss and 1o1 who made a huge wall in FV and single drake place and blocked way should really get banned before me! i didn't even mean to clone myself.. whenever that happened i was so pissed b/c i didn't know what was going on and scared of dying.. that bug actually made me die once \./ if u don't know for sure don't talk for others!! duh!!

June 19, 2003 04:06 am ET (#92)
Chum
Loyal Fan

116 posts
10-17-02

No one should be banned besides the people who blocked fv or killed clones for exp. NC should post a warning on the start up screen to Lineage, then ban anyone else who continues to use the bug. There apparently are ways to exploit it, so it shouldnt be goin on anymore. And sure it may be NC's fault for not catching the flaw, but you go out and try to run an online game, even a simple one, and try not to screw up every now and then, and when ya do, you probably wouldn't want people going out and abusing the flaw. But to all those who say "ban sol!" apparently need to go out and lvl a bit so they can fight SoL, you're all pansies if ya want them banned just because you can't kill them. Heck, I hated SoL when i was on dep, but i never wanted them banned o.o

June 19, 2003 05:17 am ET (#93)
Weathersmurf
Loyal Fan

2 posts
05-01-03

If NC didn't intend to change prat prices, people who bought and sold prats were exploiting. (Unlikely, as they stated their intent before it was done...either way, NCI == liars.)

If NC didn't intend for clones to be made, people who got ingame benefit from clones were exploiting. (I think it's unlikely that the clones were intentional.)

I think no one should have been banned and no one should be banned now. The profit off prats should have been deleted, and gained experience and such from clones should be removed. As for blocking off hunting grounds, responsible accounts should be suspended for a time appropriate for the length of time they blocked with clones. Nothing should happen to people who did not profit from clones.

But it figures that NCI bans Paldo and others for something that was NOT against the rules, but now won't do a thing about blatant bug exploiting. Hope NCI wakes up at least a bit soon.

BTW, I'd say saying "hey, weird, look at these clones, I think it happens when X" with no knowledge of how it could be exploited isn't a violation, but "hey, look at these clones, I think it happens when X, let's do it over and over to block hunting grounds so we get all the mops and no one else" is clearly communicating about the bug with knowledge and intent of exploitation. "Exploit" includes advantage (or benefit, as stated in the RoC); if someone doesn't know it can be an advantage and doesn't take advantage of it, it shouldn't be considered exploiting.

June 19, 2003 06:52 am ET (#94)
XdiaboliqueX
Loyal Fan

16 posts
03-27-02

So the point is:

All ppl who wants em banned, or dont play or they r from AA.

If they got banned, they will ban some BD and some Paldo, cuz they exploited the bug as well (i killed a clone thinking it was a enemy and i turn chao, then he uncoi next to me and start laughing, and obiusly hit me.

So my question is: Wut ur title gonna be if hey ban all? Unban AA? Unban em except Sol members?

So much hipocresy here...

June 19, 2003 07:00 am ET (#95)
Weathersmurf
Loyal Fan

2 posts
05-01-03

Perhaps a fitting title would be "PlayByRules"

Unban people who didn't break the rules.

Correct those who broke the rules.

Who exactly, other than SOL, deliberately abused this bug?

June 19, 2003 08:12 am ET (#96)
Yoshiki
Loyal Fan

667 posts
12-13-02

Yea man, so few ppl talk honest (Im not very honest also, ok)
I think its fair to protest against something, about a bug and a exploit about unjust things. I think its not fair to just scream for ban ppl because u just hate em, u got pked by em or they stole ur bosses, that not fair.

June 19, 2003 08:35 am ET (#97)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

#42 hey Foo i never said banning them was the right thing, i just said and quote me on this "TWO WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT" so don't me to shutup without even understanding what i'm saying

i specifically said if anybody should get penilized for such bugs, it should be the nci staff first

P.S. why the hell do you ppl want tissot banned? Can you give me one good reason just one? he "accidentally" discovered the bug and reperted ASAP to monitor26, now i don't see anything wrong in what he did, he didnt kill to gain exp or block anything

TISSOT is 100% innocent, its like getting jailed for assault when "you" fall down and break your arm ^^ (i love analogy)

June 19, 2003 11:10 am ET (#102)
Circus
Loyal Fan

62 posts
11-06-02

101, you are just a loser who buys items for real money so you can feel tough in a game because you are a loser in RL....if you don't get banned for exploiting this bug you don't have to worry about what I say anymore because I am gone......If bans don't get handed out to those who blocked fv with this bug then I will leave this game convinced the story of someone in SOL has a mom that works for NC.....why would anyone want to try and compete against those odds?

June 19, 2003 11:58 am ET (#103)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

i can never understand 1o1 he always says 6 and 7 whats that mean?

and flexy i was mad that day lol and when i meant ur ppl arent u antialliance?
then u part of sol no or help em thats what i meant if these ppl whos linwebs are not showing are banned and i mean perm banned iam happy and i will never say anything about banns and cheats lol but yonate was good friend thats part not good but if nc gotta bann all to ban the few i hate then thats that.

June 19, 2003 12:08 pm ET (#104)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

o yonate acc open still thats good.

June 19, 2003 12:09 pm ET (#105)
Grihm
Loyal Fan

106 posts
04-30-02

blah blah blah..

June 19, 2003 12:30 pm ET (#106)
K1DA
Loyal Fan

49 posts
10-24-02

man I was in SoL when i played.. but now i just think that they are a bunch of cheating losers..

June 19, 2003 12:47 pm ET (#107)
Kill you
Loyal Fan

46 posts
04-09-02

NC can either unban the people that were banned for prat selling... which is unlikely since that would be admitting they were wrong.

or they can Ban the exploiters that block off FV and gain alot of exp from this.

June 19, 2003 02:30 pm ET (#108)
muffinman
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-23-02

Muahahahha................. 1o1 lei ho ma? how about in mandarin ni hao ma? how does it feel to get banned? hmmm.... who else got banned i think yonate and amazingkiss and a few other people.

June 19, 2003 03:55 pm ET (#109)
PuccaX
Loyal Fan

3 posts
06-11-03

hey.. people got banned.. and it's not fair cuz some who didn't use the bug actually got banned >.< but i didn't get banned :D

June 19, 2003 04:19 pm ET (#110)
IntothePain
Loyal Fan

163 posts
11-01-02

yup I believe yonate and 1o1 got perm banned.

June 19, 2003 04:54 pm ET (#111)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

haha if they did iam so laughing i been playing yrs yrs and i never cheat or multiple user maybe thats why i aint 50 or maybe cause i blow all my items every month anyways if they did then NC did thier job.

2/3 chars was in paldo when most of us got banned but i didnt do the bug not cause it was wrong it wasnt why would NC put prat price higher at ti? so newbs gotta pay more? i didnt do it knowing how NC is. thats why iam not banned are u ppl are. keep exploiting bugs ppl soon all of fv is for me only.

June 19, 2003 05:14 pm ET (#112)
Circus
Loyal Fan

62 posts
11-06-02

Anyone have facts on who the two perm banned were? Facts, not who you think it was but definate answers.

June 19, 2003 05:26 pm ET (#113)
IntothePain
Loyal Fan

163 posts
11-01-02

poor yonate lol he had just paid for his account too when he got perm banned and 101 end dai. I personally didn't care I don't want them to be perm banned just like how I didn't want paldo to be perm ban. but NC does what it does for its own good not for players.-.-;;

June 19, 2003 05:40 pm ET (#114)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

Yonate got banned o.o??? ~_~ poor guy... NC has too many bugs! Fix them ! NO BAN THOUGH!

June 19, 2003 06:35 pm ET (#115)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

ppl gotta learn how to keep a bug a secret to themselves

I discover lots of bugs and take advantage but don't spread it over to other ppl or the public, well, maybe friends in chat programs but definitely not in the game....

ppl should have known better that after the previous bannings.....they they woould enforce such actions....

it is good to be unknown in the game.....

June 19, 2003 08:09 pm ET (#116)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

ya poor yonate........he was only sol never hit me cept the sol that were crimson empire before.

June 19, 2003 10:30 pm ET (#117)
Gilthalas
Loyal Fan

31 posts
06-13-03

i saw some other guy in the oren wl do that about 2 weeks ago. except you couldn't attack the clone, and when the REAL person got hit, the clone disappeared. I didn't know it was a bug when i first saw it.

June 19, 2003 10:36 pm ET (#118)
K1LL4FUN
Loyal Fan

10 posts
12-30-02

Yonate did not get a perma ban it was treelike and 1o1, i dont know why they banned tree.. i got a 7 day ban for telling a friend how clones are made so that they wont be in the situaition i was in ( u freeze cant move but your hp can go down and u take dmg unless you force quit) NC says i did not alert them on the bug.. i was one of the first ones in the fight BD had against SOL at weldern i whispered Mon 26 and got an automated response.

June 20, 2003 05:47 am ET (#119)
Demitori
Loyal Fan

3 posts
03-21-02

What 1o1 said were Chinese and all are F words... I'm sure he(she?) is a Hong Kong guy. Bring shame to Hong Kong (Chinese). I'm very sorry for that.

June 20, 2003 06:15 am ET (#120)
Puertorico
Loyal Fan

3 posts
01-29-03

PuccaX, First off Sorry for getting the name wrong the first time. I saw your clone about 3 times at the gate of FV. That was the first time I saw the clones. Sorry but since when does lag create a double since you blame it on lag? I dont want you to get perm or even banned if you did not know what you wer doing. I guess I can believe the Cancel in COI and poping back in cause I used to do it and did it pretty quick too so I will give you that much. But there were some ppl out there that went above and beyond. I Cant believe that ppl are getting perm banned for killing the clones but not getting perm for blocking FV. If you ask me Blocking is way worse than killing the clones. I dont care if you are AA or A, if you abused it you need to get some type of punishment but not a perm ban unless you just one of those that has done stupid things b4. Anyway, I see ppl got punished over this and that is all good and dandy but I dont think there should have been any perm bans, even if I dont get along with 1o1 that does not deserve perm bans, its a game and its supposed to be fun....

June 20, 2003 06:29 am ET (#121)
Yabiku
Loyal Fan

59 posts
04-17-02

K1DA if u dunno anything u stfu, what u mean SOl are bunch of cheaters u babo was Sol as well, o ya lol u got ban by NC , trying to sell account and items on EBAY, lol u are the real cheater/loser

June 20, 2003 08:41 am ET (#122)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

^^ Stereotypes like "Paldo is a bunch of sharers" or "SoL is a bunch of cheaters" just don't stick. Sure, there might be one or two that do those things in those pledges, but most of the players are legitimate.

Almost every post that 1o1 has made here involves breaking of Rule #1 and #4. That doesn't make the Chinese look bad, it makes 1o1 look bad. And it also makes LC rule enforcers look a little bad too....

June 20, 2003 09:06 am ET (#123)
PuccaX
Loyal Fan

3 posts
06-11-03

LOL puertorico, u r funny. I didn't blame it on lag, i just said 'first i thought it was lag that made bug' and if u say blocking way is worse than killing clones, why u think 1o1 doesn't deserves perm ban? on previous post u said people who meant to make clones while they knew it was a bug should get banned.. then now u changing ur mind by saying he doesn't deserve perm ban?? 1o1 was the one who made HUGE WALL in FV and blocked ways (which u think is worse) u just don't make sense~_~

June 20, 2003 10:10 am ET (#124)
K1DA
Loyal Fan

49 posts
10-24-02

hey yabi... How about all those real life items you bought? and bbknights too?
how about all the hacks that you guys have talked about over the time i played for?

Account selling is alot better than account and item BUYING.. At least im not a sucker. Im a profiteer...

June 20, 2003 05:04 pm ET (#125)
Squeeshy
Loyal Fan

26 posts
06-22-02

and yet..ur acc got banned
so how much profit did u make ??
and wut hacks did we talk about?
psh i thought u were a friend and now i can see who u really r

June 20, 2003 09:50 pm ET (#126)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

lol. so much drama. its like a soap opera.
Ex-Con, I forgive U man. I know you were just venting your anger. It just sux that it was directed at me. I'm a very nice person... =)
Just to clear it up once and for all... I'm not part of any alliance. That means I'm not in the Sol/FL alliance, the anti-alliance, the DD alliance, the silent alliance or any other alliance... In face, due to a conspiracy between NC and PayPal I can't even play until NC Austin receives and processes my money order. Which by the way can take up to 2 weeks..... >.< I swear, how hard is it to process a money order? It takes 3 days at most to get there.... Then another week or more for them to cash it and push the 2 or 3 buttons it takes to renew an account? If they need more staff in Austin I'll be glad to go help them out.... But no, then I'll be accused of helping some pledge from the inside....
Anyways, I really hope Yonate didn't get banned. He is a very kool guy.

~Strength & Honor~

June 20, 2003 09:57 pm ET (#127)
K1DA
Loyal Fan

49 posts
10-24-02

bah, whatever.. i dont care..

Have fun..

June 21, 2003 12:31 am ET (#128)
Yabiku
Loyal Fan

59 posts
04-17-02

lol K1DA where is the proof that i buy item from real $$???? plz show it to me , lol i wish i am that rich to buy item from real $$$$.......and also what hack u taking about???? honestly really plzzzz show me the proof, if u dun have proof plz stfu....
all i know is u selling account items on ebay u dam cheater and if u want proof plz go to FCA website ^^

June 21, 2003 01:34 am ET (#129)
WraithFire
Loyal Fan

54 posts
12-06-02

looks like everyone is venting out their laundry to all of lc, thats never a good thing. yonate is only on temp ban, and flexy you'd be suprised how long it takes to teach a monkey how to click 2 keys on a computer, if it takes 2 weeks then you're lucky lol. anyone ever wonder how many different monkeys share the "Mitch" acc in the lineage customer service department?

June 21, 2003 01:55 am ET (#130)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

Lol. Renee seems to be the only NC employee that gets back to me quickly...

June 21, 2003 07:00 am ET (#131)
Daiju
Loyal Fan

27 posts
06-21-03

Why do you guys freak out so much?
They could NEVER bann enough players to do as much damage to Dep as LoA Server did.
I just wish that Lineage could stay on top of the bugs a little better. Sloppy!!
****
As to banning, that's the only way NC ever seems to fix anything. I lost a +7bKat to a glitch, and recently my friend put a con ammy in with silver serp ammy, opened inventory and had 2 serp ammys!! See Mike (NC) will get you caught up in conversation and get your hopes up, but unless someone did it they can expel from game... they do nothing. I ignore thier responses now when I report glitches, just do it to C.M.B. Those NC monkeys make awful pen pals. *lol*
They shouldn't Ban players when it is thier fault! I would greatly appreciate if they'd slow down on adding episodes and fix all these glitches. I honestly think the original programmers left and they can't figure out how some parts of the code work... Still, I play and love this game ^^
When you take a few hard knocks, get up and keep moving forward!

June 21, 2003 07:55 pm ET (#133)
Squeeshy
Loyal Fan

26 posts
06-22-02

yonate only got 7days ban

June 22, 2003 05:07 am ET (#134)
NaughtyMage
Loyal Fan

13 posts
01-15-03

sigh so many ppl dont know what they are talking about maybee you should stop complaining and trying to get SOL ban. -.-. it isnt gonna happen for some dumb reason that a bug slipped through.

Paldo did the exact same thing as SOL so there.
All paldo has been doing since the other paldo got bann is try to get sol ban.
the will think up anything just to do it --. im gettin really sick of the crap that is goin on between these to pledges why doesnt it just stop! who cares if they own giran castle. They earned the damn thing you should jsut be happy that they are keeping the prices low for you!

so stop complaining and the ppl who got ban from paldo before im sure have made a new account and started up another char and is in paldo right now so just stop your complaining! jeez some ppl.
Zzz.T.T.T.T.T

June 22, 2003 05:37 am ET (#135)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

I miss my favorite elf... =(

June 22, 2003 11:38 am ET (#136)
Daiju
Loyal Fan

27 posts
06-21-03

Amazing, this has turned into an awful set of responses to read. May I suggest some of you out there could show some respect for each other? To struggle in combat is honorable, but to bad mouth and whine is VERY poor conduct.
Remember, without your enemies their would be nothing to fight for.
As to SOL/Paldo issue...
SOL has been around a long time. To wish for them to be banned reflects very poorly on your confidence in battle. I'm not taking sides, just wishing for a little more "good sportsmanship" on Dep.
We play Dep so we can have fun fighting, SO HAVE FUN ALREADY!! ^^

June 22, 2003 05:22 pm ET (#137)
FlaRrRr
Loyal Fan

103 posts
06-06-02

NaughtyMage: why be happy that they keep prices low? they have to or everyone would go elsewhere to buy pots ~_~; they are mad cuz THEY EARNED the castle, then it was taken away when paldo got mass banned -_-;
oh yea Daiju, we WERE having fun fighting before the prat bans because it was fair, now paldo is way outnumbered, thus making it unfair and not fun -_-;;

June 22, 2003 06:03 pm ET (#138)
juggalo
Loyal Fan

53 posts
10-21-02

the 2 people that got perma banned were 1o1 and tuscani

June 22, 2003 10:58 pm ET (#139)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

naughty u stupid fuck how sol deserve giran? they couldent take from paldo and then AA only reason sol has castle is because paldo banned AA took all castles from A cept 1. Then A took 2 castles back but no way they woulda got giran cause for other castles wasnt same defence. Sol was super happy Paldo got banned and didnt want paldo unbanned and then u complain that the few paldo's left want sol banned? and most of us in paldo been playing longer than most sol half the elves in sol still use thier +6yumi's against me.

June 22, 2003 11:01 pm ET (#140)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

sol is like fucking buu from dbz collects ppl to fight. They even got tissot now sol even ask my brother melfor to join lol when we been fighting sol for ages just cause we got +9yumi's -.- i bet when my knight hit 52 they ask me tooo. they want fights but they want all strong ppl in pledge and only all pledge that dont got a pledge soon its like 400vs10 the way they collect.

June 23, 2003 06:05 am ET (#141)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

Maybe I'll join sol too.... =)~

June 23, 2003 05:29 pm ET (#142)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

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  2. Do not post several comments in a row or any other kind of spam.
  3. Stick to the topic. If you want to start a new topic go to the official forums.
  4. Please post in English.
  5. Do not use Lineage Compendium as a place to sell or buy Lineage items or accounts for real money.
  6. Do not impersonate any NCSoft or Lineage Compendium employee.
  7. Please take up any banning issues in email with the moderator, BigPope, not in the comments or forums.
Violating any rule will usually get your post deleted. Repeat offenders will find their posting privileges revoked. Violating rule #1 may also get you banned from the whole site. Thanks!