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February 20, 2003 07:37 am ET - research by HERC, amer
Town Citizens
About 40 minutes ago, I suddenly got this message:

It appears that the first mayors were chosen today. A basic overview for those who need a recap. With Episode 12, you can now join a new town. Joining this town costs level * level * 10. Every Lineage month (5 real days - Lineage time is 6X) a mayor is chosen. The mayor is the person who hunts the most in your town. The mayor gets to set a tax rate (we're not sure exactly what this means -- what does the castle prince do then?) and citizens of the town get paid based on how much they hunt. Citizens also teleport home to their town, instead of the closest town.

So, I got that message (just my luck that I pick the town with the fastest leveller on the server) and I went to the Werldern town NPC to see how much my payment was, even though it wasn't a full week. My level 48 mage had hunted 1% since the update. This translated into 16 adena. HERC's share was 138 adena.

I guess that's not bad for 90 minutes of work (yes, I'm slow). Actually, I take that back, that IS bad for 90 minutes of work!

Anyway, HERC was nice enough to show us the "mayor's view" of the NPCs. In the screenshot on the right, you see his balance sheet. You see how much money to town generated and then a mysterious "Total income until now". HERC collected 384a for being mayor from this NPC as well.

On this screenshot, HERC is given the opportunity to choose the tax rate (he ended up picking 0). Notice the lack of instructions or explanation. HERC and I were both confused - we're sure all mayors are.

This could present an interesting decision for mayors -- if they raise taxes, then citizens get paid more, but everyone has to pay more for potions. If they lower taxes, citizens get paid less, but potions are their normal price. And how much does the tax set by the prince impact these things? We'll work on getting answers from NC. I had registered for Werldern earlier today and gained about 1% at level 48 hunting FV mops that day and my take was 16 adena.

February 20, 2003 07:39 am ET (#1)
loginisdumb
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21 posts
11-26-02

wa...interesting......16a :D;;

February 20, 2003 07:53 am ET (#2)
lordgohan
Loyal Fan

64 posts
01-20-02

Whoa.... I thought this would be better then it is

February 20, 2003 07:57 am ET (#3)
HalfBaked
Loyal Fan

8 posts
02-05-03

i cant even logg onto lineage.... >_< im missing stuff

February 20, 2003 08:01 am ET (#4)
HalfBaked
Loyal Fan

8 posts
02-05-03

how are the person selected as mayor o.o ? do they have to run as mayor first ? and get voted... ?

February 20, 2003 08:11 am ET (#5)
Zeldac
Loyal Fan

posts
02-20-03

I'm a Talking island member, Stink0Man is mayor of this town.
I'm just a n00b (lvl 16) and i did around 60% on my level.
And when i asked for some gold... :( i got 1 adena back lol
seems like TI doesn't make that much profit ;)

February 20, 2003 08:17 am ET (#6)
daojohn
Loyal Fan

1 posts
10-22-02

i got 112a from werdern >_<
almost be the mayor >_<

February 20, 2003 08:22 am ET (#7)
Rathorn
Loyal Fan

59 posts
10-28-02

I just went and checked..I got a whopping 120 adena for about 3+ hours in FV today :\. I wasted 24k on this stupid thing...

February 20, 2003 08:25 am ET (#8)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Remember guys, this was just 4 Lineage days. So, we should be getting almost 8x as much normally.

February 20, 2003 08:27 am ET (#9)
Elric
Loyal Fan

337 posts
10-29-02

wow 16 adenas, u are now rich!! u can afford oranges at 200 adenas now

February 20, 2003 08:32 am ET (#10)
megasnake
Loyal Fan

44 posts
02-02-03

Remember that these days no oranges are sold lol everybody stored 1000 or more oranges before aden came , up so the share should be more later + you get more exp and the normal 8x times more days so the ammount should raise, also becoming a citizen is a one time investment right? you get lots back if you stay at it i think , but i guess thats what testing is for , im not a citizen yet :S, i hope enchant scrolls will be sold in oren lots cauz thats where im going :)

February 20, 2003 08:35 am ET (#11)
theclanx
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111 posts
07-09-02

server locked....sniff

February 20, 2003 08:50 am ET (#12)
Zeldac
Loyal Fan

posts
02-20-03

Little remark, it's kinda logical mayors were chosen today,
if you click the citizen register, he says the date, it was 25th octobre
from the news i read about the system, every 25th of the month you can get paid out, this means the month is over and the new mayor is selected :P
Hopefully next week i get more lol >.< wasted 2559 gold so far ;)

February 20, 2003 08:52 am ET (#13)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

So stupid from NC to make this so low - another useless thing in the game. Seems is useless to be a citizen, appart from escaping back to your town of choice...

Yes, everyone stored pots, but if Herc got 350 now, what will he get when ppl are buying pots? 500? 1000a? Its a joke!!

Now, I wonder how much the owner of giran (I would think this is the town that sells the most) makes...

February 20, 2003 09:19 am ET (#14)
Zeldac
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posts
02-20-03

QuickShadow_ it were the income of 3 mir days.... (and you got much more in 1 month) just give it some time. btw, i don't think NC would want to make it that you could get loads of gold back. If you stay long enough in the town, it would be worth it to call it a home town, if you want to switch a lot, don't declare a hometown.

February 20, 2003 09:24 am ET (#15)
Arioco
Loyal Fan

119 posts
11-01-01

if u own a house and u teleport home, u go to your town or house?

February 20, 2003 09:39 am ET (#16)
DemonGeist
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69 posts
03-22-02

house

February 20, 2003 10:11 am ET (#17)
Nitrogun
Loyal Fan

229 posts
03-17-02

lol that one is cool =P i wanna be mayor 2 so i can raise the taxes lol^^

February 20, 2003 11:02 am ET (#18)
TheStoned0ne
Loyal Fan

35 posts
03-31-02

i got from around 35.0 to 38.2 on a mage solo in fv (loa) and 139 a yay !!!!
lols ;)

February 20, 2003 11:24 am ET (#20)
Kaiousama
Loyal Fan

49 posts
11-19-02

argh! I would have been mayor of ivory tower town! I missed out on 3 hours of hunting ebcause my power went out! Even without those 3 hours I ended up getting 137a!

February 20, 2003 11:43 am ET (#21)
kamikazewarrior
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posts
01-21-03

let's say If i become a citizen of TI, do i need to hunt TI to get shares? or i can hunt anywhere?

February 20, 2003 11:51 am ET (#22)
Cody
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510 posts
09-10-02

ti

February 20, 2003 11:53 am ET (#23)
Sorelore
Loyal Fan

75 posts
01-28-02

this is lame 137 adena is crap even if it is 8x that for next payday, its not worth is at all, i wonder why i only got 20a from hunting FV 6 hrs yesterday..
If they made it 10x that, it might be worth while...

February 20, 2003 12:05 pm ET (#24)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

ummm 20 times 10 = 200.

February 20, 2003 12:16 pm ET (#25)
wingzerohero
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-06-02

Herc is a heavy hunter and only got 138 or so adena.
At that pace at his lvl it cost him round say 28-30k? +-
well it'd only take roughly 6-7months to make his money back into registering...

February 20, 2003 12:27 pm ET (#26)
Zelda
Loyal Fan

17 posts
01-27-03

how can i know which zone is inclued in a town, for example desert is all to ww or a little to ww and the rest to skt? same for dv or anything i don't know

February 20, 2003 12:48 pm ET (#27)
Kaiousama
Loyal Fan

49 posts
11-19-02

Zelda, you don't have to hunt near your hometown, if you read the thing it says, you get points for hunting anything, and you get MORE if you hunt things in dungeons.

February 20, 2003 12:52 pm ET (#28)
Hoyk
Loyal Fan

posts
02-20-03

Off the topic of but do u guys think that a dire wolf can be tamed as a pet? I mean it is a wolf isn't it?

February 20, 2003 12:56 pm ET (#29)
LordJustice
Loyal Fan

15 posts
01-02-03

That would be so unbalanced compared with dobermans, husskies, etc... that I don't think so.

February 20, 2003 12:57 pm ET (#30)
Zelda
Loyal Fan

17 posts
01-27-03

Kaiousama, oh i'm sorry of my pronounced lazyness, thx for the answer i'll read npc now lol
now the only thing is to choose which town is the more interesting with having in mind the fact that u'll fall here at each escape, the potions u'll have to buy there if u don't want to use bteles, and the number of ppl who joined this

February 20, 2003 01:19 pm ET (#31)
Claymore
Loyal Fan

31 posts
12-13-01

HERC always profits quite a bit and only uses red pots when he hunts FV. He wears 2 fire rings at all times, has nice ac, a very good weapon and DK morph so he kills very quickly and takes very little damage. 138 is kinda funny though. I'll tease him about it when I get online tonight -.-

February 20, 2003 01:45 pm ET (#32)
Chum
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116 posts
10-17-02

O.o stinkoman is the mayor?!

February 20, 2003 01:57 pm ET (#33)
trouble
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58 posts
10-25-02

February 20, 2003 02:00 pm ET (#34)
trouble
Loyal Fan

58 posts
10-25-02

One cool thing about this from the standpoint of an elf that hunts FV almost exclusivly is that this will save on B-teles. I can tele to Mother tree to regen and then use esc scroll to go to Werldern.

February 20, 2003 02:16 pm ET (#35)
Rincewind
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279 posts
02-12-02

Wow! 16a...that's totally worth the 10's of thousands of adena you pay to do it. x.x

February 20, 2003 02:22 pm ET (#36)
Tweak
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456 posts
10-21-01

***just my luck that I pick the town with the fastest leveller on the server***





hmmmm it was exekiel the fastest leveller on the server....

February 20, 2003 02:36 pm ET (#37)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

Excellent post, Trouble... My elf has had his head on the chopping block for several days, now. Perhaps I will spare his miserable life after all? Thanks for the suggestion.

February 20, 2003 04:03 pm ET (#38)
jonnyblaze
Loyal Fan

13 posts
02-17-03

i dont see why NC continues to complicate the game. i think with adding these sorts of things it discourages newer players from staying in the game. it makes it 10x harder to learn what is going on if i was new to the game i would quit

stop the updates!!!

February 20, 2003 04:15 pm ET (#39)
Forsaken
Loyal Fan

87 posts
12-14-02

Stop the updates?!, Ok... how many newbies you see in a day? I mean, 100% newbies. -.-

Lineage is dying everyday.(As everything else in the world. Even the world itself!) Why not make it a sweet death? o.O

February 20, 2003 04:28 pm ET (#40)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

So let me get this straight:
EP12
(1) Increased OJ price to 200 each
(2) increased the experience lost due to death
(3) created a place where you can buy back exp if you can afford it

So.. how are people new to the server supposed to make money to afford base AC? They can't hunt with OJ because they will never make a profit without AC to protect them... they can't afford to buy back experience... Do you know how long it takes to make 850K or so (full base AC costs) hunting places where you could use red pots? I'll tell you... a LONG ass time.. This is coming from someone that plays between 8-15 hours a day. Also, one of the reasons I moved to LOA in the first place was becuase the exp loss at death was reasonable... Now, I'm hearing about people losing 13,17,20% from a single death...

Really... I thought NC was all about helping new players, but it seems like this update hurts the middle-class the most... Why would they do that?

February 20, 2003 04:29 pm ET (#41)
Marc3L
Loyal Fan

1 posts
10-12-02

#40 Buy back exp? Where's that shop? O.o? And how much to get from lvl 1 to 52?

February 20, 2003 04:35 pm ET (#42)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

it's in the church in the new town.

February 20, 2003 04:36 pm ET (#43)
Claymore
Loyal Fan

31 posts
12-13-01

It's a conspiracy aimed at destroying you all. The real reason NC doesn't allow it's subscribers to visit the headquarters here in Austin Texas is because they have imprisoned many who have spoken out against them. I live nearby and hear screams come from the complex daily. They'll be coming for you soon... Rumor has it, NC employees are stockpiling weapons of mass destruction with the intent to delive to Iraq in the event of war. NC is doing the best to destroy you! It's a good thing you're starting to realize this -.-

February 20, 2003 04:45 pm ET (#44)
kwiver
Loyal Fan

106 posts
04-07-02

claymore its getting old dude... 2times its fun ok?

February 20, 2003 04:45 pm ET (#45)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

I'm really frustrated with Lineage at the moment...

I just made a very huge move from Ken to LOA, started my own pledge, etc.. and have been enjoying the process of building up wealth/AC/weapons from scratch...

It seems EP12 has only worked against me, however, making the road longer and much more difficult. There's always another goal to keep you playing...some uber weapon, an over-zelled armor, some cool ring... whatever... But it shouldn't be incredibly difficult to finish up a base safe enchanted AC with a couple +6 weapons... Especially playing as much as I do. I thought OJ prices were high at 125 each... 200 each is rediculous...especially when an average mop (ww, lyc, dwarves, orcs, arachs, ants, etc..) drop around 100a each. It should be possible for ALL classes to be fun and level.

Now, with OJ costing so much, players are basically forced to use mages or elves range attacks to make money. EP12 forces melee fighting to be just for hunting experience at a financial loss, or for hunting bosses at very high levels. It's no longer possible for knights to play knights...or any chars to melee w/o -4x ac. Balance is shot.. the economy is nonexistant.

February 20, 2003 04:59 pm ET (#46)
dutchpower
Loyal Fan

81 posts
10-25-01

#40 its decreased exp loss not increased, isnt it?o.0

February 20, 2003 05:10 pm ET (#47)
tryten
Loyal Fan

posts
02-05-03

got 154@ from heine

February 20, 2003 05:11 pm ET (#48)
Schwartz
Loyal Fan

134 posts
02-08-02

it is increased... horribly increased... some ppl losing as much as 17-20%
They increased it because "now you can buy 1/2 of it back--you can't have both"

I dont know about you Dep/Ken people, but on LOA, we were losing 6% max... now we lose 15% and have the option to BUY.. yes BUY 1/2 of that back, leaving us with a net loss of MORE THAN WE WOULD HAVE LOST WITH THE OLD SYSTEM, and NOW, we have the extra pleasure of PAYING for it.

....but I'm not bitter...

February 20, 2003 05:14 pm ET (#49)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

Sounds to me like the hometown system is just another plot to make more money for the castles. It would be nice to see more competition for the castles on DEP. It's getting dull & boring with one organization owning everything... Right now I don't like either side very much. Hmmmm, maybe it's time to dust off my prince and do some work...

~K~

February 20, 2003 05:21 pm ET (#50)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

16 adena huh, what are you going to do with it all? dont spend it all in one place! although, if you buy 16 meats for timmy's family this xmas then thats ok...

February 20, 2003 05:22 pm ET (#51)
Chum
Loyal Fan

116 posts
10-17-02

o.O my elf is mayor of TI.. i got 17a for it. Ti earned 34k total yesterday.. such a great place to be mayor of. The funny thing is, about 2 hours after registering at ti, i realized that registering ruins escape scrolls.. so i unregistered after about an hour of killing lycs up north.. woke up this morning and read #5's post, big surprise.. im the mayor of a town im not even registered in! yay!

February 20, 2003 05:24 pm ET (#52)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

amer, at the rate you're getting adena from the town, you MIGHT make back what you payed to sign up for the town by the end of the summer.

February 20, 2003 06:05 pm ET (#53)
Strelok
Loyal Fan

24 posts
06-03-02

I don't think it is all that Bad I am Mayor of Oren on LOA and I made 1140a only got the money out an hour ago so that might be the reason for it to be higher. Still for 1 day it is not bad. If that number goes up a few times then we are talking good return.

February 20, 2003 06:09 pm ET (#54)
Vulgaria
Loyal Fan

84 posts
10-28-02

i got 99a and i hardly hunted o.o

February 20, 2003 06:14 pm ET (#55)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

that is a true statement
everyone bought a ton of ojs
so towns r barely making any profit......lol

February 20, 2003 06:17 pm ET (#56)
Claymore
Loyal Fan

31 posts
12-13-01

To #44: Yes it is... nearly as old as "rant posts"... I'll make everyone a deal... No more rant posts and I'll stop with my various different NC conspiracy theories.... lol

February 20, 2003 06:21 pm ET (#57)
lordgohan
Loyal Fan

64 posts
01-20-02

lol claymore...

February 20, 2003 06:34 pm ET (#58)
trouble
Loyal Fan

58 posts
10-25-02

February 20, 2003 06:35 pm ET (#59)
trouble
Loyal Fan

58 posts
10-25-02

Clay, hehe
Its the end of the world! OMG. . .

February 20, 2003 06:54 pm ET (#60)
Abrelest
Loyal Fan

posts
02-20-03

I am Heine Mayor, Abrelest. I got 600@ after i fought for a couple hours. I am very confused but i think on the 25th of next month you get much much more money. NC should really empisize on this topic more, i have no idea whats going on, i wish that 18.5k wasnt just for good luck to the town... :(

February 20, 2003 07:05 pm ET (#61)
Claymore
Loyal Fan

31 posts
12-13-01

OMG!!!!!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

February 20, 2003 07:20 pm ET (#62)
Kill you
Loyal Fan

46 posts
04-09-02

yes, this payback istn bad at all. I signed up to oren ,and went to 2 hunts(1 hour) in owl and one hunt in ivory tower.. got back 380a.

February 20, 2003 07:29 pm ET (#63)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

#62... at most you would have to kill 2 mops in oren wl to get 380a. takes 5 seconds.

this town thing is just something useless they can put into the game to make ppl think they are doing something for the game. and if they actually do advertise they can put it in their ad as this big feature you can look forward to. just like the dragons.

must be some kind of marketing term for this. something with the words tease and gullible in it.

February 20, 2003 07:38 pm ET (#64)
Moo
Loyal Fan

42 posts
02-13-03

LoL,
Didn't you guys read the whole thing about the chosen "Home Town"? It was posted last week or so!(Unless of course that was a bunch of crap spewed from the researchers at LC, which I doubt.)

According to the sources on Test server it does NOT matter whether you hunt close to the town you chose. The basis for getting paid is the amount of monsters you kill that are above your level!! For instance if a level 10 mage went to fire valley and killed bout 4 or 5 Lava golems (which should be red to the mage) they will get alot more money and alot more say as to who becomes next mayor. Or atleast that is the impression I am under!?!?!?! :|
Of course many people tried the whole "Home Town" experience, therefore the dividend was not so large for most of you! I mean how much can people make in one hour, unless they hunt in Oren or Heine Dungeon?? And, on top of that divide 8k@ by like 50 or so people (for example) and how much do each of those get?? LoL like 100@, but then ration out that 100@ based on how much hunting was done... Some people get 16@ & some get 180@. So logically it makes sense that you were not going to get your 25k@ for joining up back so fast!!

Ok post #48 Schwartz,
I think people on LOA are getting robbed... unless of course you were misinformed by the experience loss.
In Dep we have to go to a church and buy back our exp at a ridiculous price, I believe it is the same for Ken as well. For Lawful players lvl*lvl*100, Chao lvl*lvl*200, or so it was mentioned on Test in the Ep12 coverage. So everyone level 44 and under still loses the whole 12%, but once someone reaches level 45 they will lose 11% on a death, lvl46 loses 10%, lvl47 loses 9%, and so forth. Once a player reaches lvl 51 they will lose 5% on a death, and that rate (5%) stands for every level higher than 51 too. In otherwords that is the least amount of experience that can be lost by a character.

I haven't really heard of anyone, as of yet, forming an alliance, nor have I seen anyone or attempted, myself, to join a town yet. But I do believe that NC added these features for a purpose. I mean joining a town is a great thing for me. Saves me wasting b-teles, unless of course I have to tele to buy something :p. I usually hunt in Heine dungeon (because I am greedy :p) then I make my way back to Oren for a good ol' Elmore Hunt. I figure that either of those 2 towns will be the best bet for money. Most people hunt Elmores because they drop lots of money, and same thing for the Heine Dungeon. Also speaking of Oren, POST #10 Megasnake, even if nobody sells N-dais or N-zels in Oren you can just buy them from the store LoL. Don't complain about the extra 5k for Dais or extra 1k for Zels, because anyone can easily hunt in Oren for atleast 1 solid hour (polymorphed, if not and elf with b2s or mage with decent summons) and make atleast 12-40k in that hour. Also Ghouls, Zombies and Elmore Wizards/Generals drop N-zels, and Elmore Generals also can drop Two Handed Swords which are worth 9k sold in shops, and the ever so RARE Great Sword which is worth 40k in shops or worth atleast 60k to players LoL!!!

Anyways, what I wrote about the towns and their mayors, and the experience loss on levels is all my own interpretation of what I have read, it may be wrong so do not believe me 100% (I only ask to be believed 98% or more), but see for yourselves. Also I am glad NC keeps putting new things into the game, I definitely do not understand everything in the game, so I doubt people new to the game would either, but that is the whole point! What fun is it to know everything before you have had the chance to experience it for your self? I've seen pictures and a detailed analysis on how to beat and protect myself from Lindvior, yet I am still going to hunt him sooner or later regardless of what I know or don't for that matter. So to post #38 Johnnyblaze don't be discouraged by new things, confront them. It may turn out that these addages to Lineage are just what you're looking for, but you won't know if you quit!
~Moooooooooooo!~

February 20, 2003 07:39 pm ET (#65)
Moo
Loyal Fan

42 posts
02-13-03

WoW,
Guess getting 13hours of sleep really makes me feel rested!!
Sorry for essay-of-a-post!
Hope it helps and clears things up!!
~Mooooooooo!~

February 20, 2003 08:01 pm ET (#66)
Claymore
Loyal Fan

31 posts
12-13-01

You might want to consider publishing that sucker, Moo =D

February 20, 2003 08:42 pm ET (#67)
SkyLin
Loyal Fan

82 posts
04-20-02

i think prince of the castle sets the taxes and then the mayor puts in his/her set so if prince has it on 10% and mayor has it on 10% the tax would be 20%. if mayor has 0% and prince has it on 10% it stays on 10%.

February 20, 2003 09:34 pm ET (#68)
UltimateOne
Loyal Fan

41 posts
10-31-02

ALRIGHT NOW IM MAD!!!! #40 ur obviously new the the game. When i was a newbie it was much harder to play lineage. Most of the monsters liek werewolfs and orc fighters were agressive, and we didnt have anything to protect us lie teh enwbies these days do. Everyoen was a newbie at some point.
if they wanted to make more people play there game they shoudl do 2 things. They shoudl probably make lineage free again that woudl get them alot of players, and they should also start selling their cd's in stores. Thsi woudl also help alot.
So shut up about the damn newbies

February 20, 2003 09:45 pm ET (#69)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

orc fighters and werewolves agressive behavior have remained unchanged ever since they were added...

you must have been chaotic

February 20, 2003 10:50 pm ET (#70)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

This is retarded o.O

February 20, 2003 11:18 pm ET (#71)
Kill you
Loyal Fan

46 posts
04-09-02

what i really want to know is if you can hunt other places and still get points for your town. It may sound like it on the post but that wouldnt make much sense...

also, strelok if your reading this... why you raise the tax!!~

February 20, 2003 11:18 pm ET (#72)
Kill you
Loyal Fan

46 posts
04-09-02

double post.

February 20, 2003 11:47 pm ET (#73)
Abrelest
Loyal Fan

posts
02-20-03

How am i supposed to kill stuff above my level at heine? Let a lone any where else. The only thing thats red to me are insane boses. Drakes are in gold so #64, is registration designed for newbs or something? You said its better to kill stuff above your level, thats kind of hard to find at high level. Also, if your mayor you can see how much the town made yesterday, one time it said 2mil+. i wonder what this means, alls i know is i like big sums of cash and my name on the top of the paper :) I hope NC has a trick up there sleave to make this worth while or something

February 21, 2003 12:17 pm ET (#74)
tessloth
Loyal Fan

7 posts
11-15-02

Someone plz explain why did i hometown to werlden, in hope of being mayor, when HERC, and all of the big people are going to be.

February 22, 2003 05:55 pm ET (#75)
Yammie
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213 posts
11-14-01

it doesnt have to be above your lvl (how would herc get anything?) and it doesnt have to be around your town.

Meaningless posts will be deleted. You don't have to post on *every* article. ^^

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