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June 06, 2003 01:23 pm ET - research by Volstok

Orcish Bume Smache

One of the two new weapons in the recent LoA server update is the Orcish Bume Smache. It looks like a mace, it's one-handed, 8/9 damage, +3 to hit, knight only, weight 40 and randomly inflicts Meteor Strike (not the same as the legendary Mage version). Volstok, Knight of Ancient Anarchy Blood Pledge, got it while hunting Orc Beach -- from a Rova Orc!

According to Volstok's tests, on a 25% MR Princess, a single hit inflicted an extra 60-70 damage!

If anyone has a picture of the Orcish Bume Smache in action, send it in. ^^

June 06, 2003 01:24 pm ET (#1)

Skyblue
Loyal Fan
17 posts
05-25-03

Finally some info about it.

June 06, 2003 01:24 pm ET (#2)

Alpines
Loyal Fan
48 posts
06-04-02

haha sweeeeeeet, i want one =)

June 06, 2003 01:25 pm ET (#3)

deathskye
Loyal Fan
81 posts
01-09-02

ouch...
60-70 extra damage?
WEWT!

June 06, 2003 01:26 pm ET (#4)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

guess knights aren't screwed on LoA
throw away those crappy kats, raps, tsus
knights will own with these new magical weapons on LoA

now I can see every mage in the game who plays on LoA bitch about this....

June 06, 2003 01:27 pm ET (#5)

Substance
Loyal Fan
186 posts
09-25-02

make an armor cast fullheal and knight only o.o

June 06, 2003 01:32 pm ET (#6)

Rathorn
Loyal Fan
59 posts
10-28-02

o.0! 60-70 dmg...how often does it cast that approx. ?

June 06, 2003 01:41 pm ET (#7)

EdBoss
Loyal Fan
29 posts
05-20-03

every hundred or so hits

June 06, 2003 02:02 pm ET (#8)

forciano
Loyal Fan
120 posts
10-01-02

anyways its a great idea

June 06, 2003 02:07 pm ET (#9)

ProgressionFromDep
Loyal Fan
109 posts
01-04-03

new boss hunt item O.o

June 06, 2003 02:25 pm ET (#10)

Longhorn
Loyal Fan
19 posts
06-06-02

Post a pick of it throwing meteor strike. LoA is going to rule with weapons and items like this coming out.

June 06, 2003 02:39 pm ET (#11)

Toi
Loyal Fan
79 posts
09-21-02

at what level does it proc? lol :D *awaits flaming*

June 06, 2003 03:01 pm ET (#12)

WvW
Loyal Fan
83 posts
07-01-02

the average is 1 super hit per 100 normal hit?? that's not really often but for boss it's good, at least for a dk or in ghast morph

June 06, 2003 03:14 pm ET (#13)

EoLight
Loyal Fan
82 posts
07-03-02

Good collector's item, i wouldnt pay Any near what he wanted for it.

June 06, 2003 03:22 pm ET (#14)

tamashii
Loyal Fan
77 posts
02-03-03

Well, it's nice to know that knights are getting magic casting items now. We certainly wouldn't want them to be on the same playing field with the other classes. I mean, the mage is almost way to powerful with its spells and the like and can kill any knight without so much as blinking an eye. The elf can hit anything from a distance and kill everything before it gets within striking range. And for the safety of all knights, Prince's have an unspoken truce with the class. I don't see any problem with a possible +9 version of a weapon like this ever being considered over-balancing. This is clearly in all classes favor.

-t

June 06, 2003 04:01 pm ET (#15)

Volstok
Loyal Fan
2 posts
06-05-03

EoLight, I never offered it up for sale. ^^

June 06, 2003 04:07 pm ET (#16)

Etikilam
Loyal Fan
381 posts
02-12-02

tamashii obviously doesnt play loa -_-

June 06, 2003 04:25 pm ET (#17)

Daos
Loyal Fan
182 posts
05-31-02

It drops off a rova orc -_- cant be that good

June 06, 2003 05:17 pm ET (#18)

tamashii
Loyal Fan
77 posts
02-03-03

tamashii only plays LoA... validate that statement Etikilam. Why do you think I do not play LoA?

-t

And just to clarify, as it may not be obvious to some - my previous post on this subject is sarcastic. And if some are still unclear on what I mean, sarcastic means I am not serious.

June 06, 2003 06:06 pm ET (#19)

gravix
Loyal Fan
3 posts
10-15-02

Wow, Daos your alive. It's me BlowBlow/Vanderbolt/Indavisual. Oh yeah and for relevance to the thread...nice weapon. ^_^

June 06, 2003 06:14 pm ET (#20)

flexy24k
Loyal Fan
215 posts
12-10-02

Boom Smash!!!

June 06, 2003 06:32 pm ET (#21)

Nimrodel
Loyal Fan
4 posts
10-16-02

It's not a 1 in 100 strikes chance to cast......i've tested it......sometimes it does take a bit long to cast but it can also cast quite a few times within a short period of time...or hits....i've had it cast 4 times within 20 swings while testing it......

have fun with the new weapon

June 06, 2003 06:39 pm ET (#22)

EliteSoldier
Loyal Fan
63 posts
07-16-02

hmm i wonder how rare this thing is to get?

June 06, 2003 07:39 pm ET (#23)

WvW
Loyal Fan
83 posts
07-01-02

but anyway have ss of the casting thing.. what this spell look like

June 06, 2003 08:06 pm ET (#24)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

8/9 -.-

June 06, 2003 08:07 pm ET (#25)

Rathorn
Loyal Fan
59 posts
10-28-02

unbalancing, lol? Might want to think about the fact that there is a similar weapon called "Thor's hammer" that is for ALL classes.

June 06, 2003 08:33 pm ET (#26)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

now....

what drops thor's hammer.......???

June 06, 2003 10:09 pm ET (#27)

Nimrodel
Loyal Fan
4 posts
10-16-02

doesn't thor's hammer cast C-L?....that's what i heard......if it does....its' gonna suck

June 06, 2003 10:15 pm ET (#28)

Daos
Loyal Fan
182 posts
05-31-02

Hey man I've been trying to find you lol, my old email got broken into @.@ my new email is fakehuman00@hotmail.com... you got MSN?

June 06, 2003 11:30 pm ET (#29)

Tetrahydrocannabinol
Loyal Fan
7 posts
04-23-03

GIVE MAGES METEOR STRIKE SB NOW!!!! >.<!!!!!!!!!!!!

June 07, 2003 12:29 am ET (#30)

Murond
Loyal Fan
78 posts
02-06-02

it's a cool idea, but do you know what would be a better idea than a weapon for knights that casts Meteor Strike? a spellbook that TEACHES Meteor Strike. to MAGES. hmmmmm. good idea!

June 07, 2003 01:06 am ET (#31)

Etikilam
Loyal Fan
381 posts
02-12-02

tamashii, I know you where being sarcastic. If you played loa, really played it and not playing it as a level 10 newbie, then you would know how messed up things are on loa. Mage spells do own. Elves do beat knights. If you think a 8/9, really rare/hard to get weapon, gives knights some unfair advatange then your out of your mind.

June 07, 2003 01:15 am ET (#32)

ChacarDragom
Loyal Fan
10 posts
02-04-03

Ok, I play a Mage.. always have and always will. I think giving the Knights a cool item that procs spells is a neat idea. Its been done before in many RPG's and I dont have a problem with it in this game. Now.. with that said I would like to say that I DO have a problem with a weapon that casts a spell that has been teasing every mage in the game since release. With the release of this item there should have been the release of a SB for the actual spell for the Mages.

On a side note, it would be cool if NC made it so that Mages could "Enchant" weapons and armor like we do the blank scroll. 100k and I can Enchant your weapon so that it casts sunburst or cancel or something on a 5% chance just like these new weapons. And for armor.. wouldnt a BP that has a chance of casting Greater Heal when you get hit be worth a few mil? LOL... ok.. I am done dreaming. But seriously, stop yelling that these spells arnt in game for balancing reasons when there is obvious issues with the Knights. Just look at the 50+ stats and you can see there is an obvious overbalance there. When the majority of players favor one class over all the others it SHOULD show that something is out of order.

Ok.. done ranting... lol

ChacarDragom

June 07, 2003 01:22 am ET (#33)

ChacarDragom
Loyal Fan
10 posts
02-04-03

Etikilam.. just to let you know.. Tamashii is a lvl 48 prince on LoA who runs the HANDofGOD BP. I have been in his BP since he started it on Dep over a year ago. We have been on LoA since it went live and to say it is messed up points to you being one of the many who play knights because they have all the good stuff and are the elite at leveling. In your statement you say that Mage spells do own and Elves do beat knights. I read two things from this statement. First thing is you dont even mention Princes, that screwed over class on all servers. Second thing is your tone indicates you feel that Knights should own everything? Elves shouldnt ever be able to defeat a knight? Mage spells shouldnt own? So I assume that Knights spells should own, and elves arrows should bounce off the chest of all knights, and Knights should be able to overthrough their Prince and take over the BP's?

-.- Humph

ChacarDragom

June 07, 2003 01:48 am ET (#34)

tamashii
Loyal Fan
77 posts
02-03-03

Etikilam, I'm sorry, I am still laughing.... "level 10 newbie" lol... hehe, oh, man... brings a tear to my eye...

I have been playing this game far to long to be considered a newbie. Certainly not as long as some, but long enough. I have been on LoA since it went live. I was level 10 in the first couple of hours of it going live (who wasn't?). I was on Dep for a year prior to that.

Mages have been nerfed to a degree that their spells no longer own enough. Elves aren't very affective in melee combat, when you compare against a knight of the same level. I am not saying that the Bume gives the knights an unfair advantage, I am just stating my opinion that I do not feel the knights should get a weapon that naturally procs with a magic spell that remotely resembles a spell not available for mages. I just don't think this weapon should be knight specific, especially when they have Thor's Hammer as well, that is for all classes.

I would also like to state my opinion that I think LoA is the better of the US servers.

-t

June 07, 2003 03:23 am ET (#35)

Yoshiki
Loyal Fan
667 posts
12-13-02

wo lol so fun.

June 07, 2003 03:42 am ET (#36)

peterjwsong
Loyal Fan
1 posts
06-02-03

that princess is me ^^ at loa
glad to be part of this

June 07, 2003 05:08 am ET (#37)

Haleft
Loyal Fan
53 posts
10-18-02

loa ownz
dep stinks & cry in agony
ken was a s***,it is now,and it will be forever

June 07, 2003 10:19 am ET (#38)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

Cool item o.o~~~

June 07, 2003 01:45 pm ET (#39)

SikeSpike
Loyal Fan
3 posts
11-04-02

*sigh* (just to start off) one day i was sitting at a restarant with my friends and discussing lineage (as ussual) and one of my friends thinks that knights should be able to own anything and anyone. I believe that is very unfair. As soon as the dex ac came out knights started to complain that elves have higher ac than them so soft ac came out. Knights started to own. Now take a look at the amount of lvl 52+ knights and the amounts of 52+elves, mages and princes. Elves, princes and mages added together is still just a small fraction of the amount of knights. I hope some people remember the days when elves could be knight in melee. I want those days back. I love playing a con elf, and i see it pointless to play one. Why is NC making all those elven swords if elves dont use them cause they blow in melee. I also played a prince and i loved playing one. But it hurts when i see how weak the prince class is. And now going back to the procing of weapons. If knights get a weapon that procs. Every one should get one then, and yes i do agree that mages should get the SB if not the item should be taken out of the game. Some might say i am crying about old issues but u know lineage was in a way better the way it was long time ago atleast -48ac on an elf ment something.(sorry >.< i am a dep player but have a char on loa a con and dex elf)
Thank you i hope some might understand me

June 07, 2003 01:48 pm ET (#40)

SikeSpike
Loyal Fan
3 posts
11-04-02

Also i need to add.

My friend hit 50 on dep he is an elf some might know him. But just watch elves are going to get nurfed even more now cause after lvl 50 elves own but getting 50 is a pain. Nc killed con elf soon they are going to kill elf in the end. And if u go to test just see how many elves/mages/princes actually play the server and compare to the amount of knights

June 07, 2003 02:11 pm ET (#41)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

mages can own a knight on any server with ease

all a mage needs is 18 int base, int ammy, bomp, sos, wis pots and they're set to rape knights

like on elves, elven MR 75% is nothing to int mages hehe

elves r suppose to work together and kill from a distance and a con elf can melee if u want, just need a good weapon and ac

princes
well, they're screwed still lol

but all classes should be working together to kill those u want dead
that is teamwork
then again
most of u hate teamwork and like soloing for your own pride which has no meaning except to yourself

June 07, 2003 03:42 pm ET (#42)

Etikilam
Loyal Fan
381 posts
02-12-02

ChacarDragom, I dont mention princes because ive never fought a prince that was near my level so I have no experiance with that. Knights should own something but they dont. My level 49-50 mage and elf friends get drops over me all the time and beat me in duels often. Elves are very profecient at melee, my friends kirby and dragonfly are monsters when it comes to sword fighting. Im Lindvior on loa if you were wondering.
Mage magic... nerfed? Oh my god, my level 22 junk mage can paralize lvl 50+ elves. As for 20 int mages... lets just say 8x mr doesnt save me from their "nerfed" 1 hit kill spell called curse:paralize.
And damage... dear lord. On ken and dep, yes mages suck, but not on loa. Fire storm = mage gets all drops over my +9 katana at a drake spawn. Blizard devestates everything in death matches. Decay pot and silence make any other class venz or die.

June 08, 2003 12:48 am ET (#43)

ChacarDragom
Loyal Fan
10 posts
02-04-03

Ahh.. hello Lindvior, yes I have seen you out hunting. And I know Kirby from a few hunts we have done together. I agree that on LoA the Mage can actualy be a mage and with a good Int you can get your spells off on even a higher MR char. But you must understand a Mage before you critique one. A Mage is supposed to be the master of "Direct Damage" doing far and beyond anything the other classes can dish out, BUT... at a cost. For starters no mana = dead mage. Anything gets close enough to hit the mage.. OWCH.. we dont have many HP at all. My friend Lithius (48 Con Knight) can take my HP from max (390 hp at lvl 48) down to 50hp before I can get off 3 tries with my Para. And he resists me fairly well on LoA. Granted if I get that para off he is dead, but thats what being a mage is all about. Its an all or nothing deal with mages. You either blast the mop into the great beyond or you end up on the end of a sharp pointed stick being roasted on some Ogre's fire. I play LoA because out of all the servers I can play my mage the way its ment to be played. Knights Own at killing stuff fast.. just look at all the 50+ Knights out there.. you cant argue with those numbers. No other class kills bosses like the Knight can. I have to call for my knight friends everytime I want to head boss hunting, because I just cant take the hits like a knight can.

PS: I will have to remember the FS at Drake spawn.. lol.. I never get drops so maybe I finaly will. ^^

ChacarDragom

June 09, 2003 08:56 am ET (#44)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

Any idea if there are other kinds of Bume Smashe swords? Maybe there is dwarvish or something fun like that. Either way, putting new cool rare items into the game makes things a lot more interesting!

June 09, 2003 12:00 pm ET (#45)

Shinmaril
Loyal Fan
2 posts
10-23-02

That is a sh�t.
The mages are waiting for that spell 6 year, and now the first char than can use is one knight..... xD

F#@#!K you all knight!! ^_^

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