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February 03, 2003 06:26 pm ET - research by amateras

2/3 - Korean Test Server update publish announcement

Lineage - Korea announces (https://bbs.lineage.co.kr/lineage/new_announcement/pre_lineage/read.asp?ListNum=84&NoticeID=2&PageNum=1) the following publish announcements being published to the Korean Test servers on 2/3:

One NPC in Aden City will be totally unaffected by tax rates. He will be located in the Eastern corner of the city and sell potions and general supplies.
Prices in Silver Knight's Town have been adjusted.
The fee to declare a hometown have been reduced to:
level * level * 10
The fee to purchase your half your experience back after dying has been changed:
Under level 45: level * level * 100
Level 45+: level * level * 200

February 03, 2003 06:27 pm ET (#1)

Onlyone
Loyal Fan
247 posts
02-07-02

Cool 2/3 ??

February 03, 2003 06:28 pm ET (#2)

IronMage
Loyal Fan
55 posts
04-24-02

lol nice...u can buy exp back...
first post 0.o

February 03, 2003 06:29 pm ET (#3)

CuteLady
Loyal Fan
64 posts
10-12-02

The new prices seems a lot cheaper. Hehe I guess thats good news for everyone. Is it just for after you die or all the time?

February 03, 2003 06:30 pm ET (#4)

uselessmitch
Loyal Fan
132 posts
06-21-02

so for lvl 49

49x49=2401x200=480200

408.2k wow thats eh kinda a lot but for lvl 49 not bad.. better then nothing.. better then spending 15+ hours to get 6% back

February 03, 2003 06:32 pm ET (#5)

PenDragon
Loyal Fan
34 posts
06-18-02

Amen uselessmitch. They should lower the damn exp loss penalty anyway.

February 03, 2003 06:38 pm ET (#6)

Jaive
Loyal Fan
37 posts
02-11-02

so the whole point of the taxing system is.......? because now everyone will just go to that NPC for their general stuff..

February 03, 2003 06:43 pm ET (#7)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

i wish they would say lowered or raised instead of "adjusted"

February 03, 2003 06:52 pm ET (#8)

Jaire
Loyal Fan
74 posts
02-12-02

What if they did both?

February 03, 2003 07:04 pm ET (#9)

Jaire
Loyal Fan
74 posts
02-12-02

Also, am I reading this right? It's level-squared (^2). If so, DANG. The way my hunting goes it will take less time to regain the exp than to come up with the money hunting.

Which bring up another point, how long after death do you have to make the "purchase"? Will I have enough time to hunt for the money? Is it based on exp? If I gain it back on my own, will I still be able to by the lost exp back?

February 03, 2003 07:06 pm ET (#10)

Cody
Loyal Fan
510 posts
09-10-02

thats alot of money o.o..

February 03, 2003 07:16 pm ET (#11)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

Cool prices lower o.O

February 03, 2003 07:21 pm ET (#12)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

if u have a lot of $$...u can power lv very easy -_-...even if u die with that buyback xp system...

for poor ppl....460k+ for 6% ....only good on em..49+ -_-

February 03, 2003 07:39 pm ET (#13)

Foreverpro
Loyal Fan
144 posts
10-31-02

thats great!!!!!1
tho i hate they up exp loss price i think....
anyway i dun care i wanna buy exp back-- id rather spend 500k then 15hours hunting--
make exp loss for igher lvls! this d/c is just pathetic la

February 03, 2003 07:41 pm ET (#14)

trouble
Loyal Fan
58 posts
10-25-02

I really wish they would lower the exp on death. It's so dang painfull at higher levels. But if buying back the exp from death is my only option (49*49*200, OMG), I'll do it.

Troublemaker

February 03, 2003 07:48 pm ET (#15)

Nitrogun
Loyal Fan
229 posts
03-17-02

wow cant wait till this update comes! i'll buy all my exp back hehe... --> starts saving money ^^

February 03, 2003 07:49 pm ET (#16)

WaRLoRD
Loyal Fan
92 posts
01-28-02

At lvl 49 you would have to spend 480k just to get 6% back, it would be cheaper to just get pots and get it back.

February 03, 2003 07:50 pm ET (#17)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

note: time IS $$ lol...

u spend time lv-ing..
or u spent $$ buying xp

February 03, 2003 08:07 pm ET (#18)

FrozenYak
Loyal Fan
125 posts
09-30-02

i think anyone level 46 or lower would just be wasting their cash to buy back that experience, it doesnt take that long to remake.

however i have to say i wish the price of declaring a hometown would go back up, it made you put more thought into it...for 20-25k ill just register wherever i feel for that month.

February 03, 2003 08:30 pm ET (#19)

QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan
173 posts
02-05-02

As an int/wis mage, it takes me 5 or so hours at 47 to recover 13%. That is hard hunting, getting as much exp as I know how to get. At 48, 10 hours. At 49, 20 or so hours? Then this becomes CHEAP, even at 48 it is VERY enticing!!

February 03, 2003 08:34 pm ET (#20)

QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan
173 posts
02-05-02

#15 guess you are joking cause this only works for last death - you cant buy your way up to 52!! (if this was true, I can sell my +8 SOM and +7 SOF, lvl up to 49 at once and use my +6 stored SOM for hunting... but nah - I would buy my way up to 48, where we mages get that big bonus I've been so long after!)

February 03, 2003 08:54 pm ET (#21)

KoHo
Loyal Fan
18 posts
06-18-02

not worth buying experiance back if you're not lvl 49+, i mean it only takes 1 hour to get 1% back at 48 anyways, and a lot less on lvls lower than that

February 03, 2003 08:58 pm ET (#22)

Girlfriend
Loyal Fan
13 posts
11-04-02

So, If I lost 22% that means I can buy ONLY back 11% ONE time?

OR, can I make subsuquent purchases or rather buy back the 22%?

February 03, 2003 09:40 pm ET (#23)

ONEOFDAZZZ
Loyal Fan
21 posts
02-03-03

I'm sorry but that is just way too expensive. I am lvl 15(my first character) so that puts me at $22,500. Thats insane!! I spend less money on heal pots, hastes and escape scrolls for an entire lvl. They should try to realize that everyone is not rich. :(

February 03, 2003 09:44 pm ET (#24)

melanor
Loyal Fan
61 posts
10-15-02

the question i have about the buy back of exp does it cover the full amount u loss for that death or is nc going to be cruel and let it cover only a small amount of the loss

February 03, 2003 09:50 pm ET (#25)

flip
Loyal Fan
118 posts
10-16-01

#23, the point of this is that high level rich people can buy back the xp they lost... because at lvl 49 you usually spend more on braves/greens/pots to hunt for your xp then buying it back.

February 03, 2003 09:52 pm ET (#26)

h2ombre
Loyal Fan
333 posts
02-28-02

it says 'half your experience'

February 03, 2003 09:56 pm ET (#27)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

i will be saving cash for this absolutely (the buyback exp)

1 death costs me around 44 hours (on average) to fully recover. only losing half that amount will be soooooo worth my 480k.

i make around 20k an hour where i hunt, and thats if i dont get items like nzel or ndai. at that rate, it would take me 24 hours minimum to make the money, and even though that might not sound like saving much, the closer my elf gets to 50..... nature blessing... money becomes alot faster and easier then anyway.

agreed on lower levels though. they should seperate the ranges 1 or 2 more times like:

45+ (lvl^2 * 200)
30-44 (lvl^2 * 100)
11-29 (lvl * 200)

just a suggestion. using ONEOFDAZZZ's model of being lvl 15, it would cost 3k to recover the exp instead of 22k. i havent been a newbie on dep for a long time, i dont know what 3k means to a lvl 15 player, as 15k to me when i first began was kinda awesome amounts of money... newbies input thoughts please.

February 03, 2003 10:00 pm ET (#28)

CuteLady
Loyal Fan
64 posts
10-12-02

Getting exp at low lvl is so easy, you wont even need to buy it back in the first place #27.

February 03, 2003 10:20 pm ET (#29)

ONEOFDAZZZ
Loyal Fan
21 posts
02-03-03

TheCollector that would make more sence and yes it is easier to get exp at low levels then at higher levels, but it is all relative...if my mage spends 2000A in pots per 30 minute hunt and I only get 10% per hunt why not pay 2-3k to rebuy that exp back if I die? My time is just as important as your is, just because I am still at the point where I can lvl 1 or to times a day doesn't mean it is not. (but my time is not worth 22k for 15% of a level)

February 03, 2003 10:38 pm ET (#30)

Forsaken
Loyal Fan
87 posts
12-14-02

Hmm... what about "selling" exp.
That would rock. :P~

February 03, 2003 11:06 pm ET (#31)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

=P 720k for lvl 60
selling should be level*level*500~ ^^;
for lvl 60....1.8mil for 5% of their exp ~~

February 03, 2003 11:52 pm ET (#32)

Wilhelm
Loyal Fan
88 posts
07-02-02

The exp buy-back is made deliberately expensive so you will use it only if you need to or have lots of money to spend. There ares ome case I can see doing it: You are planning on entering a deathmatch or hunting in Forgotten Island with your pledgemates and a death delevels you just below the required level. Now you can spend cash to instantly relevel and join your friends. For those who have millions set aside this lets them play without fear. (This will be very popular on Test.)

February 04, 2003 12:58 am ET (#33)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

now that is a good price for exp back
I wouldn't mind paying that amount if I ever die at 49+

when aden comes
the owners should raise the tax to the max
that will sure get ppl to siege the castle lol

February 04, 2003 04:41 am ET (#34)

Prince Drathen
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-04-02

At Level 47, I was getting about 1% every 30 minutes. That is 3 hours for 6%. At 47, I didn't make 441,800 Adena every 3 hours (I still don't, and never will). This buy-back is obviously only for players who are 49+, if that. Good players who are Level 49+ can make 2~3% a day. but do they make 480,200 Adena every two days, hunting how they do? I doubt it, unless they get great boss drops, and hunting bosses increases the risk of death. Ultimately, I'd say this option is only for those who are Level 65 and above.

February 04, 2003 05:05 am ET (#35)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

that depends on class. i wish i could make 2~3% per day, but because i only have a limit of time to play, i am lucky to get 1%. therefore, 13% knocks me back over a week usually in progress. now i know that number will be lower when i hit 50, but until then i would happily pay 480k to regain a weeks worth progress.

thanks for the numbers ONEOFDAZZZ

February 04, 2003 06:12 am ET (#36)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

on weekends can get 2~3%
but weekdays only 1~2% >.<

February 04, 2003 07:40 am ET (#37)

ex
Loyal Fan
25 posts
11-09-02

buy exp back.. LOL, this game gets more ridiculous everyday.

February 04, 2003 09:23 am ET (#38)

QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan
173 posts
02-05-02

People... dont whine, understand. This is directed towards very high level players, where loosing exp can be a big hit (think a week or more of work).

This is not directed toward lvl 15, 30 nor 45 players, this is GREAT for those at 49+. Don't whine so much, this is not perjudicial for you in any way but makes a BIG difference to those with high levels!

February 04, 2003 09:31 am ET (#39)

Teapot
Loyal Fan
34 posts
09-12-02

this sounds good for me lol since i always die for no reason hehehe

February 04, 2003 10:24 am ET (#40)

Nitrogun
Loyal Fan
229 posts
03-17-02

If i could only buy half my exp back that i lost at lvl 49 i would almost be lvl 50 0.0! and i would have paid alot for that hehe like 20 x 480200 = almost 10m

But seems like u can only buy back from your last death ^^

February 04, 2003 10:38 am ET (#41)

ex
Loyal Fan
25 posts
11-09-02

But cmon buy exp back, how does that fit in lineage.
Why dont they save themselves some time and just lower the death penalty.

February 04, 2003 11:21 am ET (#42)

Maxxima_2
Loyal Fan
4 posts
12-15-02

It is very nice this xp buyback, but not worth in LoA cuz u only loose 1% at lvl 49+ so spending 500k for .5% hahaha. But its like this when i was in dep i was able to make 1m every 15 hours with my elf, so if u make 1% every 3 hours at lvl 49 u would need about 15 to 18 hours to get it back, and it takes me half the time to get the money. And im sure there is many ppl who can make that kind of money in same time. So i think its great. Regarding to the noobs well..... not worth for a lvl below 49. I remember my noob days and 10k was a lot. 1 month ago when i was making my Sayhas i found a noob seller, i offered 1m and he accept, but i only had 997k so i told him that if that was cool, and he said no ^.^ i understand him, but high lvl players dont worry about money as much as noobs so spending money for Xp is not a prob for them.

Zelt --- Dep

February 04, 2003 12:33 pm ET (#43)

FrozenYak
Loyal Fan
125 posts
09-30-02

what do u mean only lose 1% at lvl 49 plus? i never knew that was in loa..i thought it was always around 6% loss

February 04, 2003 12:47 pm ET (#44)

Friggy
Loyal Fan
97 posts
09-09-02

good that is has become lower......

Now redunce zel/dai price :)

February 04, 2003 12:49 pm ET (#45)

trouble
Loyal Fan
58 posts
10-25-02

The experience loss at level 49 is painfull! I plan on keeping adena on hand to buy back experience from death loss. The time I have to play, a death costs about 1-2 weeks worth of work. At this point, I would pretty much do anything to lessen the pain. IMHO, I don't think it would be worth buying back exp at levels less than 49 (at least I wouldn't do it.)

Troublemaker

February 04, 2003 01:43 pm ET (#46)

loginisdumb
Loyal Fan
21 posts
11-26-02

if i die at lv 11~3x...and reach lv49 and buy back the exp lost in the 11~3x would i be lv50?! hahahah~~

February 04, 2003 02:59 pm ET (#47)

Friggy
Loyal Fan
97 posts
09-09-02

No ofcourse not !!!

February 04, 2003 04:06 pm ET (#48)

kwiver
Loyal Fan
106 posts
04-07-02

it goes with experience potins u lost wich u can buy back not with %'s loginisdumb

February 04, 2003 04:22 pm ET (#49)

Retro
Loyal Fan
5 posts
09-18-02

I think what should really happen is NCI should give us a monetary refund for everytime we die from lag. Then we'd be talking. Every time we die at this game, its a little more of our life down the drain. Think about it.

February 04, 2003 05:49 pm ET (#50)

SpysLikeUs
Loyal Fan
89 posts
03-04-02

This is ridiculous...

half a million to get 6% back?
they should reduce it completely!

This is total BS

February 04, 2003 06:32 pm ET (#51)

Tissot
Loyal Fan
180 posts
06-22-02

IF U GET CANCELED, WHERE CAN U THEN BUY BACK ALL U LOST FOR HALF PRICE?

February 04, 2003 06:59 pm ET (#52)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

yea
this is meant for only lvl 49+ ppl
this is decent
I wouldn't mind

wonder if the money u give to the church goes to the owners of aden?

February 04, 2003 07:31 pm ET (#53)

Glorfindel
Loyal Fan
72 posts
11-24-02

im not saying its a bad idea, i just dont like how it would be too easy for some people. some people dont get rotc's everytime they hunt (like me) and 500k can be a lot to loose at the drop of a hat. i think our exp loss at death should be the same as LoA, otherwise it IS a noob server (which NC and people deny but i think it is - lvl 50 in 2 months? hah..) i liked it when we only lost 5-7% per death....

all this is IMHO of course

February 04, 2003 08:20 pm ET (#54)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

you get cancelled it takes you 10 minutes to make that kind of money back. die at 49 and it takes a matter of days to weeks, depending on the amount of time you play.

dumb arguement

February 05, 2003 05:06 am ET (#55)

Prince Drathen
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-04-02

I think you'd be stupid to spend the Adena to get the Exp back at any Level below 65. The Level 52+ players who have high AC and strong Weapons gain Exp back fast enough not to need this. I imagine at those Levels, getting better items becomes more of a priority, since leveling up becomes so dull.

And btw, if you can't tell TheCollector, I'm a Prince. Everyone should be getting better Exp than me. 3% a day is EASY at Level 47.

February 05, 2003 10:11 am ET (#56)

ex
Loyal Fan
25 posts
11-09-02

This is the most ridiculous update ever, im quitting over this.

U know what makes lin so unfun for me?.. its the fact that I'm afraid to die and lose 13% (13% takes me 30+hrs of play time to get it back!), coz im afraid to die I never fight anymore and the game gets more boring and boring.

I really dont understand how I wasted 4yrs on this game but I guess you will all see the light sometime.

lmao I just realized 1 real life work week is about 40 hrs, hey isnt that what it takes me to get my exp back!? A game is supposed to fun, not a job!

February 05, 2003 05:30 pm ET (#57)

trouble
Loyal Fan
58 posts
10-25-02

Wish I could gain 13% in 30 hours. Sigh. God, 13% is too damn much to loose at death!!!! Level 49 and I'm afraid of my own freeking shadow! I could die and loose 1-2 weeks of work. Yah, really need to change the % of death loss at death. No way am I going to LOA (too much time invested on Ken).

Only option (because I'm too addicted to stop playing lineage) is to start saving adena to buy experince when I die. I'm looking forward to this stupid update, so I can worry a little less about death exp loss.

But, for someone who dies a lot (lag/DC MOP), buying exp is just not feasible.

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