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January 02, 2003 09:03 am ET - research by amer
LC Contest for December/January
Okay, it's that time of month again where I announce the contest of the month. This time, we're going to give away our January month as well as our December month so we can have winners on two servers.

Pay attention now, it's complicated :)

Scavenger Hunt

So here's how it will work. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to collect 8 items (below) in as great a quantity as possible. They're all junk, and not all items drop any more. Consider it a reward for being a packrat. :)

Points: You will get points based on the items you collect. The points are as follows: If you have the most of a certain item on a server, you will get 5 pts. Second most will get 3 pts. Third most will get 1 pt. Theoretically, the highest score a player can get is 40 pts (having the most of every item for your server).

Tie Breaker: I will pick a number from 1 to 100,000. In the event of a tie, the closest guess to that number will win the tie. However, you must guess in adena. (More on that later).
If you tie with other players for "the most", the first person recorded by a reporter will get 5 pts. The second will get 3, etc. (You can't just pass the 1000 Scroll of Destroy Armor around your pledge to make a 30-way tie for 5 pts :-P)

Time: You have one week. On January 9, the scoring will occur.

Scoring: The way to get counted is to take all of your scavenger hunt items to one of the LC Reps. They will be available for scoring at various times in various towns on January 9. The schedule and names of who is an actual LC rep will be posted on January 8. You will show your items to an LC rep in a trade window (items dropped on the ground won't count), and they will take a few moments to make a note of the quantities of every item and will record it. They will not keep it. Any funny business and you will be disqualified from this and every future LC contest.

If you didn't realize it by now, you will have to be able to carry your scavenger hunt findings. Also, just being able to carry the most does not mean you are more likely to win. Plan wisely. Remember, you also do not have to have all of the 8 items. Showing us thousands of scroll of destroy armor and nothing else will probably guarantee you 5 points :)

To make your tie-breaker guess, make your guess in Adena, that is, if you guess 20, put 20 adena in your trade window. Once again, no LC rep will ever hit OK to the trade.

Items: Floating Eye Meat, Blinding Potion aka Opaque Potion, Scroll of Destroy Armor, Elemental Stones, Spirit Gems, Hard Leather, Silver Serpent Scales, Old Scroll.

Eligibility: You must have an active Lineage account. I suppose just meeting us means that you have an active Lineage account, but hopefully this prevents confusion.

Prizes: The top 3 scores of every server will be posted on LC in a news post. First place on every server will get a screenshot of them too. Also, if you have a registered LC account (why don't you?) your title will be different on your posts (just a little extra something :) And, the grand prize, the first place winners on the two servers with the most participants will get a free month of Lineage!

Please post questions and concerns you have to this thread and I'll answer them and possibly update this post. Good luck and have fun!

January 02, 2003 09:08 am ET (#1)
Lindard
Loyal Fan

8 posts
12-23-02

Looks like Great Lil' Event being put together

January 02, 2003 09:08 am ET (#2)
Cody
Loyal Fan

510 posts
09-10-02

wow! cool me join it~!! ^^

January 02, 2003 09:13 am ET (#3)
Cody
Loyal Fan

510 posts
09-10-02

by the wya what is prize? o.o

January 02, 2003 09:19 am ET (#4)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

free month try reading you babo, mmmmm i got 89 ssc 365 blinding potions 300+ elemental stones mmmmmmmmmm no eye meant *buy buy* soda and os none

January 02, 2003 09:27 am ET (#5)
FreaX
Loyal Fan

158 posts
11-13-02

i was hopin he would say pumpkin candy o.O

January 02, 2003 09:34 am ET (#6)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

i have more opaques than i can carry O.O' i had 200+ eye meats but i give them to the newbies...

January 02, 2003 09:53 am ET (#7)
Elric
Loyal Fan

337 posts
10-29-02

cool ^^

January 02, 2003 10:02 am ET (#8)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

ruben how many opaques

January 02, 2003 10:25 am ET (#9)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

151!!! i had 365 >_< where are the rest???? damn prob i sold them --;

January 02, 2003 10:33 am ET (#10)
brodter2
Loyal Fan

3 posts
03-13-02

Is this event running on the Lands of Aden server??? ^_^

January 02, 2003 11:18 am ET (#11)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

unlucky ruben i got 356 :D

January 02, 2003 11:19 am ET (#12)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

brod no

January 02, 2003 11:33 am ET (#13)
Kandy
Loyal Fan

90 posts
10-20-01

wah i sold all my opaques before T__T

January 02, 2003 11:51 am ET (#14)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

Onlyone, i *had* more than you T_T

January 02, 2003 11:52 am ET (#15)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

Chances are this event will be won by knights because of the weight they can carry... many persons have more stuff than what they can carry, so in the end he with the most carrying capacity will win...

January 02, 2003 12:09 pm ET (#16)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Brodter - yes, all servers.

QuickShadow_ - you're assuming the best strategy is to have the most of *all* items. that probably won't work.

January 02, 2003 12:27 pm ET (#17)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

amer, I am very grateful to you guys for LC and specially for a fun contest such as this one... but I really don't see, given the point system you have designed, that the player who can carry the most probably will win.

Well, not going out with 1000 eyemeats and nothing else. As there are 8 items to collect (some a bit hard to find), this would be stupid. But you are only giving points to the 3 first with most things of one, and being third place in something is a small victory. So... what should you take then? 500 blinding pots? Or there might be 2 persons with 510... so you loose all your effort/time/etc.

I am of the opinion (again, respectfully and grateful for this contest) that it is, in concept, failed, since it is critical how much you can carry and, well, had to be that way because there's no other way you guys could find out what people really have. People collect so much junk in the end they will have more of several of this items than they could carry so... yes, they should think of a balance (carry the most of the rarest, maybe? etc).

What I dont see for example is how you are going to catch cheaters... and sadly cheaters cheat. Any way, hope people have fun. A few days ago someone, quitting, began dropping 50hp belts and other AMAZING items all around certain maps of the server, and it was VERY fun. I was running like crazy around the maps in costume and coi'd... That could be a great contest (find the most xx items dropped by our players and you will win). Of course, finding that specific item which would be unique to those dropped by your players would be hard or would need cooperation from NC...

Anyway, have fun everyone, I guess we'll find some amazing quantities of junk collected by ppl on servers. As far as me... just 250 eye meats, a few spirit gems... 5 Silver serpent scales... not much more, leather gave it all to newbies and blinding pots, you know what they are good for... trash...

January 02, 2003 01:15 pm ET (#18)
leon9991
Loyal Fan

7 posts
10-27-02

wooot, just a free month..lol not even worth it, why u
dont give winner a cool price like any lineage figure.
(like goblin keke j/k)
u can get them in korea in different stores.
fight for da free month.. hehe

January 02, 2003 01:40 pm ET (#19)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

QuickShadow_ - I think you may be oversimplifying too much. Your struggle with what to carry is exactly why the contest will not be about weight. If it's just a matter of weight, tell me what you would carry which would be the "winning collection". You can't come up with one.

Also, some of the items in the list are not readily available. So, it's not just a matter of carrying up to your weight capacity. Some people will just be the only person with Old Scroll. Of the items listed 3 of them don't drop at all and are just a matter of what you have. Being 1st in one of those will get you 5 points, which are better than being 4th in the "all you can carry" categories.

As for the cheating, tell me how you could possibly cheat here?

Anyway, sorry you won't participate. However, just for you (but it will be too late for you ;) I'll make sure to get the weight capacity of the winners to show you that it's not about the capacity.

January 02, 2003 02:08 pm ET (#20)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

No no amer, don't get me wrong, love the contest, anything that's fun on the game is great for me, and I won't participate just because I have very very little time to play this week that's coming. For me if NC made an effort and had more active GM's, who did more events (weekly, monthly, or randomly appearing and doing things), even small things, they could make the game so much more fun and enjoyable for all - and in the end, keep people from quitting (worries me a lot so many people leaving and I am still not 48...)

I will look forward seeing how this is won, I am sure in the end you should be correct (as you have probably thought this one out more better than me). Anyway, seeing the weight of the winners will be interesting, and as I said, the combination of items they choose.

Never seen an Old Scroll :) but yes, I understand... eye meat, well, you could, very cheaply, get a TON of them... but for what good?

BTW, anyone wants some silver serpent scales? Whisper me on game :) Quickshadow!!

Thanks again amer et al!

January 02, 2003 02:09 pm ET (#21)
TheReaper
Loyal Fan

7 posts
11-14-02

Well I still feel pissed off that its left to Compendium to do events that have some meaning sides the heine drop which im sure some r still spending,but as most know LC has the the most concurrent info on whats been done,being done and whats to be done.So we play guess is up to us players to do some sort of event.
Keep killin those npcs they might bear some fruit.

January 02, 2003 02:11 pm ET (#22)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

o.o... I already have everything available....
How come no bananas? Our pledge storage has a ton of em o.o

Too bad my acc is dead tho. ~.~

January 02, 2003 02:26 pm ET (#23)
noida
Loyal Fan

12 posts
03-08-02

hehe this is a cool event but i agreee with "thereaper" why should the player have toget events together :( so annyoing but i'm glad that LC has done somtihng :) heeh it's to bad that u can buy a;ll these items o. Who has the most money? o.o hehe in the next week u willl se ppl buying old scrolls and well every item see on the list O.o it's going to be a market game hehe :) kinda :) any way it's so cool:) love it :) maby you could try to tlak to nc >? and get somthing together o.o i'm sure u have tryed already but keeep it up hehe :)

what a good price thoguh hehe free month O.o !i want that free month :( save me 30$ hehehe
GL! to all ppl that are in t collecting items i'm selling eyemeat:) i trashed m silver scals :( selling hard leather :) and spirt gems :)

January 02, 2003 02:39 pm ET (#24)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

noide, if you look at the items though none of them are avalible in stores for a reason ;) so go out there and do some hunting! For once theres a meaning to trash!

January 02, 2003 03:12 pm ET (#25)
rol4x4
Loyal Fan

30 posts
09-12-02

Yes, The weight issue could be a problem for this event. Im a mage and i have a few of every item which could give me a chance, but the thing is, i have over 650 blinding pots and noone and i mean noone could carry all of these. But surely this has to be one of the largest amounts in game.

~4x4~

PS: Maybe selling them is the way to go.
Anyone want to buy 650+ blinding potions.

Oh, and Taera you can buy eye meat in the Oren shop.

Good Luck to all potential winners.
And Happy Gathering.

January 02, 2003 04:11 pm ET (#26)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

suggestion:

weight isn't an issue when u check in with an lc reporter at a pre-discussed place (somewhere where no one comes and pick up stuff - -;...)

go to there with ur weight gauge around 8x to 9x
trade with lc reporter and record
drop on floor so lc reporter wont count that twice and get u disqualified
go up again and record and stuff til one of the items r done...then store back

repeat for every item...

in case of recounting items when u got more, u'll have to start over again..
unwillingly to do so can get u items counted twice, which can get u disqualified


stop complaining about the weight thing - -;...not many of them r heavy...

heavy items: eye meat, opaque pot, elemental stones, spirit gems, hard leather
light items: soda, serpent scales, old scrolls

(hmm...the light items dont really drop a lot tho heheh.....)

good luck to all....i dont really have much of those things..- -;...might as well spend my time seeing ppl fight for those junks

January 02, 2003 04:14 pm ET (#27)
Anime
Loyal Fan

212 posts
12-25-02

.....
LoA
doesnt have soda(scrol of destroy armor)
....

January 02, 2003 04:23 pm ET (#28)
Mailan
Loyal Fan

79 posts
10-13-02

And uhh, maybe its just my imagination, but I'm pretty sure old scroll dont stack... and you can only put 16 items into the trade window at once... I hope u ppl at LC have the time to make appointments with 500+ ppl so they can just drop all their junk on the ground...

January 02, 2003 04:40 pm ET (#29)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

gigi - There are no appointments. LC people will show up somewhere, everyone will get in a single file line and show them stuff. Also, items you can't carry (on the ground) don't count.

anime - then no one will get points for that category :-P

Mailan - doh! We'll check on that. If so, I'll change it :(

rol4x4 - If no one can carry 650 blinding pots, then it's not really being a mage that's the problem ;)

January 02, 2003 04:44 pm ET (#30)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

....so weight does really count then - -;...better make a str/con mage to carry all the stuff for the contest for all those ppl participating...

January 02, 2003 04:51 pm ET (#31)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

basically as many as u can possibly carry and show
so strip a knight of all your items and put it in your storage
then cast decrease weight and str spell
and pile up those pots and meats

my guess is each reporter is gonna check for one kind of item?
that way it is easier to keep track

I have 3 soda, 200 silver scales and 300 spirit gems hehe
used to have 500 elemental stones
but I changed that all to fairy dust
I have over 20 000 fairy dust @_@

January 02, 2003 06:06 pm ET (#32)
Blahk
Loyal Fan

234 posts
02-02-02

you can buy floating eye meat at Ivory Tower town for 200a each.....

January 02, 2003 07:19 pm ET (#33)
theclanx
Loyal Fan

111 posts
07-09-02

what happens if you do decrease weight and str spell...load up on all the item til you're at 100% and then before you can show it to the LC reporter, your spells wear out? Do you die of gluttony? :)

January 02, 2003 07:45 pm ET (#34)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

ppl can buy eye meat from store in oren....maybe instead of eye meat you could have furs,basi horn astagio ash etc...will ogre belt play a factor in the contest if 2 players have more items than they can carry? will the belt give unfair advantage...i might be confused

January 02, 2003 08:05 pm ET (#35)
MrMog
Loyal Fan

0 posts
11-07-02

this-hunt-is-not-worth-it --;; im definately not going to waste my time gathering up meat and elemental stones just for a CHANCE (not a guarantee) that i will win and amer will pay for my lin acc --

January 02, 2003 08:38 pm ET (#36)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

anime, I got a SODA drop the other day, forget from what though ~_~
Blahk- are you that desperate?
mrmog- no one is forcing you to give it a go :)

January 02, 2003 10:56 pm ET (#37)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

I think there needs to be a clearer understanding in how we're gonna show the reporters the items
because ppl with ogre belt will of course win for carrying that floating meat and blinding pots

January 03, 2003 12:19 am ET (#38)
Blahk
Loyal Fan

234 posts
02-02-02

taera, i never said i was desperate...i was just proving you wrong when u said that they can't be bought at stores. im not even gonna enter this event=P.

January 03, 2003 12:23 am ET (#39)
TeronElf
Loyal Fan

185 posts
09-21-02

^_^ I cant participate I have 10 meat 1 spirit gem 1 blind pot and 0 other T.T

January 03, 2003 01:53 am ET (#40)
ToshidinGoblinGuy
Loyal Fan

28 posts
03-21-02

I got 40 old scrolls on ken server o.O beat that (pleaseeeeee) i had these things for so long ~.~ oh and btw, opaques i think u can buy at the tower for 2a each ^.^ i used my 96soda's on leather jackets lol so those are out =/ hehe gl all

January 03, 2003 04:18 am ET (#41)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

Toshidin is right
u can buy blinding pots for 2a each lol

I think amer needs to change some things around

January 03, 2003 06:53 pm ET (#42)
Mailan
Loyal Fan

79 posts
10-13-02

Too bad you cant drop stuff in hotels anymore either... (why the hell did they change that anyway?) otherwise you could have just bought 2 hotel keys and yo uand the reporter go in and u show all the stuff.. because chances are that if you go to taera (an int/wis mage, I think o.o) she wont be able to hold all your stuff ^^:; and thus, the trade thing wont work... and as much as you guys at lc say it isnt about how much you can carry, it is. because someone could have 1000 opaques in storage, and they wont be able to show them to you, and thus, they will have to pass up the points, which could cost them the free month... so you definately need another system of counting.

I had another thing to say too, but I'm such a baka, I forgot it T.T

January 05, 2003 05:38 pm ET (#43)
elvenofpower
Loyal Fan

127 posts
11-07-02

i would try but i only want the first place one
ill sell stuff to people on dep
sell elemantal stone 100a each i have 1000

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