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September 27, 2002 08:27 pm ET - research by NC - Support
more on Blessed Weapons
If you haven't been asking gameplay questions to support, you should. I've been flinging a bunch at them, and I got this goodie:

Amer:Another question in your support system says "Blessed weapons do extra damage against undead and demons; this includes Baphomet". Is this extra damage equal to the extra damage that silver does to undead? Can you please specify what you mean by "demon"? Is a Succubus a demon? Is Giant Ant Queen a demon? Is Ifrit?

Alex@NC Support: The extra damage is not equal to the extra damage that silver does to undead; it is a smaller bonus than the silver/mithril bonus against undead. The following creatures are currently considered to be “demons”: Baphomet, Cerberus, Beleth, Demon, Living Armor, Death, Ghost (Red), Ghost (Blue), and Taurverus.

September 27, 2002 08:31 pm ET (#1)
Rhayde
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64 posts
12-29-01

But they still didn't say exactly how much... At least now we know silver does an extra 1d20, how about blessed weapons? :\

September 27, 2002 08:32 pm ET (#2)
keiv
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12 posts
07-02-02

How about when they'll have vet questions/answers part II ready?

September 27, 2002 08:35 pm ET (#3)
kingslei
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146 posts
01-04-02

wow #1,2 are quick i jsut came back to lc afer the new mop thing is up........

September 27, 2002 08:35 pm ET (#4)
Rincewind
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279 posts
02-12-02

I thought Death and Ghosts were undead...does this mean a B-Rap would kick even more ass than a regular Rap does against them? Heheh...

September 27, 2002 08:36 pm ET (#5)
Rincewind
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279 posts
02-12-02

...and how are Succubi NOT demons? o.O

September 27, 2002 08:36 pm ET (#6)
Yammie
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213 posts
11-14-01

i think its 1d4, but im not completely sure

September 27, 2002 08:37 pm ET (#7)
kingslei
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146 posts
01-04-02

lol b-rap whered u get that.......... b-sls is more like it:P but it will never happen, i tihnk b-rap does alot more dmg to undead but ........... it does random dmg too.....

September 27, 2002 08:40 pm ET (#8)
Facade
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13 posts
09-06-02

Now ask them if silver/mith weapons do extra damage to demon type mops ^^ Not sure if they ever answered that or if it was even asked.

September 27, 2002 09:21 pm ET (#9)
Rincewind
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279 posts
02-12-02

It was a joke Kingsley, albeit a dumb one. Lol.

September 27, 2002 09:30 pm ET (#10)
Wilhelm
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88 posts
07-02-02

I suspect the extra damage against Demons is the same as that for the spell Blessed Weapon, which adds +2 to hit and +2 damage. It's more likely a small fixed addition than an added random roll.

September 27, 2002 09:32 pm ET (#11)
Grun
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15 posts
09-24-02

+10 b-mb mmmmmmm if only lol. demon would be a hurtin ^^

September 27, 2002 09:46 pm ET (#12)
UltraCoolElf
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105 posts
02-19-02

b-rap? i got one in heine event.... and i use it in dvc... +8 muahahaha hopefully b-weaps get like... 1-15 bonus so that mean rap will do 1-35 dmg on undead hehehehe

September 27, 2002 09:53 pm ET (#13)
kingslei
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146 posts
01-04-02

o.0
show us SS lol if there is that it
i think u are j/k

September 27, 2002 09:57 pm ET (#14)
TwistMeh
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146 posts
06-17-02

There's a new comic up o.o, nice doggie

September 27, 2002 10:02 pm ET (#15)
GroatKing
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4 posts
09-15-02

So is a blessed weapon any different than a standard weapon blessed with a scroll? Do you get a better weapon by blessing you blessed weapon. lol
Is it better at fighting demons?

September 27, 2002 10:13 pm ET (#16)
GroatKing
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4 posts
09-15-02

Wait I forgot about holy weapon spell. Is that the same as a blessed weapon? Is it additive?

When you use a holy weapon spell you weapon glows blue, if you swich weapons is new weapon Holy? The spell was cast on you.

September 27, 2002 11:10 pm ET (#17)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

holy weapon adds +1 hit bonus and +1 dmg bonus to undead ONLY

September 27, 2002 11:23 pm ET (#18)
XCollicoX
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131 posts
04-20-02

WOWA READING THESE POSTS...IS MAKING ME GO CRAZY! TOO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^

September 27, 2002 11:50 pm ET (#19)
K-ZS-M
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925 posts
05-04-02

holy weapon should be a downgrade of enchant weapon spell......

like how the three spells go.....
holy weapon.....enchant weapon.....bless weapon.....

bless weapon being the strongest enchantment of the three....
and since casting over one another cancels each other....
I believe fighting undead or not, the bonus damage and hit is still there....

and when u cast it....it is only the weapon u choose or holding that is enchanted until the 10 min is up or u restart....

at least blessed weapons r helpful.....wish blessed armour did something......

September 28, 2002 12:31 am ET (#20)
Substance
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186 posts
09-25-02

omg..thats why i end cerberus faster using +7bkat than +8rap

September 28, 2002 12:51 am ET (#21)
Nitrogun
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229 posts
03-17-02

Tauverus demon o.0 well if they say so...

September 28, 2002 05:10 am ET (#22)
Swarez
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8 posts
09-11-02

I use to play around with a a blessed scimitar on TI before the update. One thing i noticed was that the b scimitar ended orc warriors and every other mop around in only a couple hits, while the damacus i used to seemed to take forever. Being a dex elf with crappy melee damage I always thought that blessed weapons gave a damage bonus to any type of mop.

September 28, 2002 05:18 am ET (#23)
dutchpower
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81 posts
10-25-01

lol now i still dont know how much dmg blessed weapons do more..

September 28, 2002 06:17 am ET (#24)
TwistMeh
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146 posts
06-17-02

Ask marak to morph into demon and see which hurts him more LOL

September 28, 2002 07:07 am ET (#25)
Cowboy
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74 posts
10-02-01

bless weapon spell does that act like your weapon is blessed?
and if so if your weapon is blessed already would it x2?
This should all be in the magic help menu.

September 28, 2002 08:07 am ET (#26)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

bless weapon is the name of the spell, it doesnt bless it
enchant weapon spell doesnt add 1 enchant level, does it?

September 28, 2002 08:09 am ET (#27)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

well before i sold my +7bkat and +7rap i did more damage in duels with the kat.
i think blessed weapons are just that, weapons with bless spell permenently on them.

casting bless weapon adds extra hit/damage bonus.
i didnt notice any difference when i casted it on an already blessed bkat.

ps.
if u cast enchant weapon, then bless weapon; they dont nul each other.
only holy and bless nul each other. (i enchant and bless my yumi often and see results)

September 28, 2002 08:25 am ET (#28)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

____________________________________
if u cast enchant weapon, then bless weapon; they dont nul each other.
only holy and bless nul each other. (i enchant and bless my yumi often and see results)
____________________________________

i will test this

September 28, 2002 08:59 am ET (#29)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

ok, here is my test:

lvl 13 mage with +6 sof hitting a lvl 40+ mage with -2 ac:

no enchants, 10 hits = 13.9 dmg/hit
enchant weapon, 10 hits = 18.5 dmg/hit
bless weapon (after enchant weapon), 10 hits = 17.2 dmg/hit

conclusion: bless weapon cancels enchant weapon... AND the guide is right, it only adds hits bonus (i didnt miss a single hit with bless weapon)

September 28, 2002 10:15 am ET (#30)
Afra
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1 posts
09-28-02

Hmm... blessed weaps good against demon kind huh.

Well the next question has to be ....


WHEN WILL ELVES GET BLESSED BOWS/ARROWS ??

Come on NCi we want the bonuses too :)

September 28, 2002 11:20 am ET (#31)
Loki
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14 posts
09-11-02

well, there are b-eb...... i dunno whether ud wanna use it tho ^^

September 28, 2002 11:44 am ET (#32)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

well i never tested but i notice the difference, but ill test right now too i supose.

September 28, 2002 12:07 pm ET (#33)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

ok here is the test. take your weapon. and 2 identify scrolls.

1st. enchant your weapon. then ID it. it will say Weapon: small/large monster hit x+x [2]. the [2] is from your enchant spell. meaning its x+2.

2nd. while still enchanted, bless your weapon. then ID it. if bless nuls other enchant spells then the [2] should go away. as u will see it remains.

who knows i could always be wrong.

September 28, 2002 12:15 pm ET (#34)
Avari
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35 posts
09-07-02

they have already said that 'enchant weapon' does NOTHING for a bow, only for melee weapons, im wondering about holy weapon & bless weapon, and im suspecting that they do nothing as well, but i have no founded proof on this, i also wonder about bless weapon & enchant weapon canceling each other, and if so.. which is better.

September 28, 2002 12:15 pm ET (#35)
EdL
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58 posts
07-03-02

LoL #4... ghost are dead.. not undead stoopid~

September 28, 2002 12:21 pm ET (#36)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

if enchant weapon doesnt nothing for bows then why are the elves not all using +0 yumis? eitehr your a noob or not high enuff to have tested enchant weapon on a bow. it works.

September 28, 2002 12:40 pm ET (#37)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

___________________________________-
ok here is the test. take your weapon. and 2 identify scrolls.

1st. enchant your weapon. then ID it. it will say Weapon: small/large monster hit x+x [2]. the [2] is from your enchant spell. meaning its x+2.

2nd. while still enchanted, bless your weapon. then ID it. if bless nuls other enchant spells then the [2] should go away. as u will see it remains.

who knows i could always be wrong.
____________________________________

i hope that you are joking

September 28, 2002 01:53 pm ET (#38)
UltraCoolElf
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105 posts
02-19-02

hmmmm...... nc doesnt really give us much info.... any.....

something is happening on test.....

September 28, 2002 01:59 pm ET (#39)
2x2
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104 posts
04-19-02

i know how they say a monster is a demon,
the ugliest ones are demons :P

woudn't knights be demons also then?


^_^ j/k

September 28, 2002 02:24 pm ET (#40)
kingslei
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146 posts
01-04-02

hmmm that could be true lol j/k, elves are the pretty ones:)(my opinion)

September 28, 2002 03:59 pm ET (#41)
killah
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77 posts
09-08-02

this has nothing to do with this post but does anyone else see "Warning: open(/tmp/sess_69413271e9f107ffdefe95a6f19933a2, O_RDWR) failed: No space left on device (28) in /mnt/web/guide/lineagecompendium/compendium.setup.php on line 9" at the top of lc page?

September 28, 2002 04:49 pm ET (#42)
TwistMeh
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146 posts
06-17-02

yep i do killah. Also i'm pretty sure enchant weap adds damage to bows, but i dont notice it adding as much as #29's test with sof. As for testing these things, you should use the weakest weapons you can find, that way you have a smaller "dice roll" range. So use a dagger and caste the spells on that, and for bows you should use a orc bow and reg arrows. Things like yumi, sof, and expecially tsu have big damage ranges. They're harder to test things like this.

September 28, 2002 10:24 pm ET (#43)
TeronElf
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185 posts
09-21-02

Warning: write failed: No space left on device (28) in Unknown on line 0
Warning: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/tmp) in Unknown on line 0
? what is this? :p I am still downloading lineage... 90megs till now... 16k files... TOO MUCH!
And I though that b-weapons are harder to blow up. (not that to blow up is hard)

September 29, 2002 12:24 am ET (#44)
ArthurDent
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26 posts
09-21-02

B-Weapons are not harder to blow up, when you + a weapon you aren't blessing it, You are enchanting the weapon. Bow damage doesn't add to arrow damage but the enchant level (+) adds to the arrow damage. All the name calling is innapropriate and childish, especially if you yourself don't know the facts. And the enchant/bless spells don't add to bow damage, only the elemental wind spells do.

September 29, 2002 12:34 am ET (#45)
UltraCoolElf
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105 posts
02-19-02

UNI HIT 50 ON TEST! UNI HIT 50 ON TEST!

September 29, 2002 12:57 am ET (#46)
Substance
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186 posts
09-25-02

i dont tihnk hitting 50 is sepcial nemore...u just gets a new moprh...since many ppl are hitting it....

September 29, 2002 03:29 am ET (#47)
Tweak
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456 posts
10-21-01

congratz UNI

September 29, 2002 03:35 am ET (#48)
Gogeta
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84 posts
06-12-02

i dont see how tsuverus is a demon monster o.0

September 29, 2002 03:38 am ET (#49)
Gogeta
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84 posts
06-12-02

#30 nc already gave you undead bonus things on the silver arrows so stop complaining and there r already b-bows the regular bows when u get from skeleton marksmen in a dv hunt

September 29, 2002 04:50 am ET (#50)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

"ok, here is my test:

lvl 13 mage with +6 sof hitting a lvl 40+ mage with -2 ac:

no enchants, 10 hits = 13.9 dmg/hit
enchant weapon, 10 hits = 18.5 dmg/hit
bless weapon (after enchant weapon), 10 hits = 17.2 dmg/hit

conclusion: bless weapon cancels enchant weapon... AND the guide is right, it only adds hits bonus (i didnt miss a single hit with bless weapon) "

Actually i asked a Monitor on the Dep server (after a hour of begging),
we are both right and wrong rubin. bless does cancel out enchant but bless isnt just hit bonus. bless adds +2 damage and +2 to hit(like xbow).
and if u dont believe me, why would a mere hit bonus incress the damage of your sof? 13.8 to 17.2?

over all you sacrafice a little damage for more acuracy you u choose bless over enchant. i suggesting enchant for hunting and bless for siege/duel.

September 29, 2002 07:24 am ET (#51)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

i never said that it doesnt add dmg bonus O.o
http://www.lineage.com/guide/char_magic_lev6.html <--- sometimes reading official info will help you

September 29, 2002 07:27 am ET (#52)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

officail site isnt always right. you remeber they used to say pgs -50hp? that was a lie. never use officail lin site as a reference, lots of things they dont say. lin programers dont make site they hire webmaster. LC is good cuz the guys here actually play and research things. i trust LC more then linUS

September 29, 2002 07:51 am ET (#53)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

if they say A and when i test it my test says A, i will use them as a reference for that.
if they say B and when i test it my test says C, i will use my test as a reference, asking people to test it themselves if they can

September 29, 2002 08:12 am ET (#54)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

thats good, but use LC. LinUS tends to have false information.

______________________________________________
#29
conclusion: bless weapon cancels enchant weapon... AND the guide is right, it only adds hits bonus (i didnt miss a single hit with bless weapon)
______________________________________________

you did say it only adds hit bonus ^^. someitmes reading LC info will help you

September 29, 2002 08:38 am ET (#55)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

it adds hit bonus vs enchant weapon ~.~

September 29, 2002 02:02 pm ET (#56)
Na1rbPipeline
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17 posts
09-23-02

i have a question,, i havent played htis game in awhile,, and was wondering,,, whast this mage nerf thing?? witht the heck is a nerf??????????????

September 29, 2002 05:06 pm ET (#57)
SM00TH
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14 posts
09-29-02

DAMMMMMMMMMMMM YOU THINK SOMEONE WOULD NO ALL THE ANSWERS!

September 29, 2002 05:45 pm ET (#58)
UltraCoolElf
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105 posts
02-19-02

yah, but thats on test u know..... and its a race against the clock...
Dep = 50+ pks/duelers
Ken = 50+ whatever? nothing really special about them... (no offense)
Test = FAST, HARDCORE 50+ pks/duelers with -70 to 80 ac..... lol o.O
hehehe...... so..... forged isnt really special because he goto 50 right b4 wipe.... and wipe for test now aint till december o.o.... and what.... test just finish wipe some time in july-august? zues and fzr hit 50 sometime b4 sept.... and UNIVERSAL started in sept.... finish at end of sept... pretty fast all 3 of them...

hehehe i made this point meaningless to the topic so amer will delete it, but will still read and and get some1 to interview them!! -.-!!

but whose our favorite 50+ on test? UNI!!! HE IS THE ONLY FLUENT ENGLISH SPEAKER ON TEST!!~ (no offense fzr.... we know u english n all... but u just came from taiwan ritey?) and... well zues is from korea o.o

ZUES declared in the year FZR1000cc that the UNIVERSAL fighter would be FORGED. hhehehehehe.... AMER!! IS THIS THE ONLY WAY TO GET UR ATTENTION BY MAKING MEANINGLESS POSTS WITHOUT USING E-MAIL?!!?!?!?! kekekekek INTERVIEW UNIVERSAL, FZR, AND ZUES!!!(in order of newest to oldest)

September 29, 2002 06:31 pm ET (#59)
SteelEye
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37 posts
12-10-01

Ruben,

according to your post #37:

he is right, if u cast enchant weapon, then id the weapon, then the description of the weapon shows an additional "(+2)". Never noticed before...

September 29, 2002 06:35 pm ET (#60)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

is that new? its my first time too o.o

September 29, 2002 07:27 pm ET (#61)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

UltraCoolElf: Due to popular demand, we don't interview level 50 knight any more.

September 29, 2002 07:51 pm ET (#62)
Doomscythe
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1155 posts
03-21-02

UltraCoolElf is very hyper ~_~

September 30, 2002 04:16 am ET (#63)
Raistleen
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60 posts
05-16-02

Whaaat!?

Due to popular demand..... man, do people get used to lvl 50. hahahahah

BTW, i'll have to test, 'cause i allways thought that enchant was +2 to hit and bless was +2 to hit AND +2 to damage, while holy weapon was extra damage to undead only. BTW do this conus apply to bow damage also?

c'ya

(damn, i liked the interviews...U.U...)

September 30, 2002 04:30 am ET (#64)
TheBadGuy
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45 posts
05-25-02

ok here it is... for all that needs to know.
holy weapon = xtradamage to undead
enchant weapon = adds additional +2 to your weapon
bless weapon = adds +2 to your weapon aswell as +2 hitbonus (ie. a blessed +0yumi would be = to a +2yumi wearing a bracer)

you can only have one of these on at a time.

if anyone as proof others wise, tell me so i dont look like an idiot -.-

September 30, 2002 11:15 am ET (#65)
ruben
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355 posts
10-07-01

TheBadGuy, holy weapon doesnt add 1d20 to undead (aka extra dmg to undead), it only adds 1 hit bonus and 1 dmg bonus (to undead)

maybe you meant +1/1, but "xtra dmg to undead" is how ppl say "1d20 to undead" :P

September 30, 2002 11:53 am ET (#66)
KnightSpirit
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137 posts
04-27-02

Enchant weapon and bless weapon adds 1-2 damage to sword
it's not a fixed number.. each time you hit it's either +1 or +2

Blessed weapon do not have +2 hit bonus
NCI never said this, and neither has anybody o.O

Bless weapon spell makes the weapon blessed for 10 min, so it does extra damage to undead. But the damage amount is not certain.. people say it's +1d10

(silver / ori weapons do +1d20)

September 30, 2002 12:21 pm ET (#67)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

hey KnightSpirit, you dont your trust monitors, NC support and the official guide?

enchant weapon does add 2 dmg bonus, bless weapon does add 2 dmg bonus and 2 hit bonus, holy weapon does add 1 hit bonus and 1 dmg bonus to undead, those are facts

blessed weapons do more damage to undead is a fact, ANY number that you hear about this, IS a rumor so you should NEVER trust it 100%

______________________________
Enchant weapon and bless weapon adds 1-2 damage to sword
it's not a fixed number.. each time you hit it's either +1 or +2
______________________________
it works like dais, +6 weapon + enchant weapon is +8 to dmg, no dices and THEN throw the weapons dices

September 30, 2002 03:30 pm ET (#68)
TheBadGuy
Loyal Fan

45 posts
05-25-02

yeah, i just didnt want to explain holy to much cuz it sux.

knightspirit is noob ruben lol. dont try to explain to him if hes not gonna bother reading the other posts, which might i add; our tests proved it all.








September 30, 2002 09:46 pm ET (#69)
KnightSpirit
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137 posts
04-27-02

How can you prove it has +2 to hit?
you can't
How can you prove that it does a solid 2 damage and not 1-2?
you can't becuase the damage is too random

September 30, 2002 09:48 pm ET (#70)
RGConqueror
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221 posts
03-22-02

How is ghost a demon?

October 01, 2002 12:18 am ET (#71)
TheBadGuy
Loyal Fan

45 posts
05-25-02

knight spirit... cast bless on your slef and identify your item. it doesnt ad +2 damage, it adds +2 enchantment.

and you prove uncertain things by testing with lvl 5 characters. since they suck all bonuses will be a noticable change. lvl5 elf hit as much when he was blessed as when he wore a bracer.

stop questioning other people and explore some theories before cast your opinion.

#70, im not sure what else a ghost would be. zombies and vampires and such are dead yet living, ie. undead. Ghosts are not realy alive, no bodies or host for them to be "living" in. just some evil uhhh, ghost.

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