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October 30, 2002 05:50 pm ET - research by amateras

10/30 Korean Test Server updates

NC - Korea (https://bbs.lineage.co.kr/lineage/new_announcement/pre_lineage/read.asp?ListNum=66&NoticeID=2&PageNum=1) announces the following updates to the Korean Test server on 10/30:

The chat window will now display the time you have been connected.
The Dog Race NPCs will not allow you to buy any more tickets. You may still sell your existing tickets back.
PvP item drop has been disabled. If you are chaotic and get killed, there is a probability that an item will disappear.
Chaotic attack magic penalties have been reduced:
- Curse: Poison = -300 Lawful
- Curse: Blind = -400 Lawful
- Weapon Break = -600 Lawful
- Curse Paralyze = -2000 Lawful
- Darkness = -800 Lawful
- Weakness = -1000 Lawful
- Diseases = -1000 Lawful
Restarting in DVC 7f or Fafurion's Lair will start you in the nearest town.
Miscellaneous bug fixes.

October 30, 2002 05:52 pm ET (#1)

BorgDrone
Loyal Fan
20 posts
10-24-01

have an item disappear, thats terrible

October 30, 2002 05:55 pm ET (#2)

Ranger
Loyal Fan
144 posts
06-21-02

Mm.. wow.. NC tested the Chao penalty for spells and changed them before they got off Korea Test.. imagine that -.-

October 30, 2002 05:58 pm ET (#3)

Blanka
Loyal Fan
26 posts
09-18-02

pvp drop has been disabled

does that mean when u pk a lawful person they wont drop stuff?
or just chaotics dont drop?

October 30, 2002 06:01 pm ET (#4)

Ranger
Loyal Fan
144 posts
06-21-02

It means.. lawful people don't drop items when PK'd and chao people's items might explode when they are PK'd...

October 30, 2002 06:03 pm ET (#5)

Opiate
Loyal Fan
16 posts
10-11-02

well i guess that takes care of the pks on dep =( no reason to kill anymore unless you are a cold hearted killer =)

October 30, 2002 06:14 pm ET (#6)

thesimbul
Loyal Fan
39 posts
01-22-02

ok we already have a teen rating here in north america (dunno if it's rated the same in europe etc) so we dont need some of these changes and i certainly hope we dont get them.

October 30, 2002 06:16 pm ET (#7)

Rincewind
Loyal Fan
279 posts
02-12-02

Hmmm. Lots of big changes here. Good that they reduced the penalty of chao spells. Mages have been screwed enough.

October 30, 2002 06:20 pm ET (#8)

melanor
Loyal Fan
61 posts
10-15-02

mages will still be screwed, cause as it is u usually have to cast about 3 or 4 times to just get one of the curse spells to work, andi have tried it both with a 18wis/int mage, and 18char/wis mage and both of them barely work at all,
unless they make the spells a bit more powerful and they work more often it will just be another nerf to the mages.

and i really dont like the idea of items going byebye when u die when not full lawfull, cause that really just gets rid of one of the main resons to pvp,

shouldnt nc be fininshed tinkering with fi to get it workin right by now, they been at it for several months now

October 30, 2002 06:23 pm ET (#9)

aupairKing
Loyal Fan
320 posts
03-11-02

MAN! I called it, getting rid of the gambling was next. I made the comment in the earlier section on the teen rating that Compendium put up.

My GOD! I hope none of the other suggestions come true, cause they were all orginaly just sarcasm.

DOH!

October 30, 2002 06:28 pm ET (#10)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

#2 You're mistaking NCAustin to NCSeoul. The korean test server actually tests for imbalance of the updates whereas austin just dumps it to live servers after a week on the test server.

Disappearing item.... that's worst than being thiefed.

October 30, 2002 06:31 pm ET (#11)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

if slime + dog races removed, will they redo the map to remove the graphics too?..
make an arena (or 2) where a prince can again rent it for like no-xp-lost wars and such~~

there'll be less pvp activity in korea, since pk-ing ppl wont give u drop +.+..

only chaotic might lose the item...hmm..so my lv 1 neutral newb with -40ac will not drop ANYTHING upon death if got pk-ed? o.o that's sweet for lv-ing O.o
but then again there's a ANOTHER way to get drops..heh...better watch out o.o

but...where do pks get funding to keep pking at this rate...

spell align...mage NERF..
1st mana cap on som
2nd reduced summon to charisma/6 + 1
3rd soft ac
4th som quest removed
5th increased alignment penalty for casting spells that dont work ALL the time?

hmmmmm
6th mage class removed?

October 30, 2002 06:31 pm ET (#12)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

where can you see how long you have been connected?

October 30, 2002 06:43 pm ET (#13)

Arinaut
Loyal Fan
3 posts
09-06-02

Melanor: This type of update balances the chao points from earlier. Since only chao loses equipment upon death, mages can uses their chao magic without fear of dropping after the first para cast. The chao penalities still seem a little high, but significantly better than before.

October 30, 2002 06:46 pm ET (#14)

AsianKing
Loyal Fan
65 posts
10-25-02

Noooooooooooo!!!!!!! dam that fool NPC
para still goin to make u chaotic mage for sure -2k dam it
I love mage -.-
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for sure it coming to live ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
someone bite me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

October 30, 2002 06:52 pm ET (#15)

ArthurDent
Loyal Fan
26 posts
09-21-02

Some of the changes proposed enacted will in fact most likely kill Lineage in Asia as they are the ones who primarily focus on PK. Also if you think about it getting a lower rating will do nothing if there aren't any people who want to play it. NC should just keep it the way it was because nobody really cares about the ratings on games anyways.

October 30, 2002 07:01 pm ET (#16)

Substance
Loyal Fan
186 posts
09-25-02

huh???
item disappear?
and wats the dog race thing>?

October 30, 2002 07:09 pm ET (#17)

Reepa
Loyal Fan
6 posts
09-11-02

They have to care for many reasons they have stated. Children under the age of 18 cannot play lineage in a gaming cafe. If you havent heard about Seoul and what not, they have a gaming cafe on every corner supporting thousands upon thousands of people including minors. So they will lose a major part of their client base.

These changes more then likely will never see the American servers. Since 2 of the 3 American servers are PvP most will be unhappy with the changes and probably quit their service. Since we already have a teen rating I highly doubt they will impliment this in the american servers because of the clients preferences.

October 30, 2002 07:09 pm ET (#18)

acidtrance
Loyal Fan
63 posts
02-25-02

So, pretty much there is now point in PK'ing anymore. Unless the little F'er steals your mop =]

October 30, 2002 07:33 pm ET (#19)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

getting pked and an item disappear is even worse....

I rather let a pker get my item....

and this will definitely not help ppl in korea....
imagine when someone chaotic is pked and their +9 tsu disappears....
From what we hear and read....someone is gonna get their ass beaten to death....
Will create more hate and violence....

but but....this is only korean test....
so.....hopefully this terrible thing will not come to US servers......

October 30, 2002 07:40 pm ET (#20)

sikrob
Loyal Fan
98 posts
04-03-02

i can see someone in korea trying to pk the guy who took his item...but this, im sure well see some more "boy commits suicide cause he lost item"

remember a while back when this happened cause that guy lost his +9 something?

October 30, 2002 07:50 pm ET (#21)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

must say....
lots of messed up ppl in korea.....
All these changes r basically meant for Korean servers......thank goodness....except for like that dragon lair restart thing and misc bugs...

I can imagine teens rioting at NC and fighting off their parents when they bitch at them for playing too much.....
I'm sure if we go to korean news sites....we'll hear some fatality in lineage because something stupid...

Considering the huge amount of MMORPGs in korea.....
if they disable and limit those young players....they'll just move to something else that is just as addictive...

I'm pretty sure those rehab centres for lineage will be packed...
They all need to grow up and face the reality of this world....
When u think ppl can't be that mentally fucked up......ppl just prove to u it is true......

October 30, 2002 08:18 pm ET (#22)

DhaosXT
Loyal Fan
51 posts
04-24-02

lol, using para will be like killing a guard... kekekek (in relation to the law points you lose).

October 30, 2002 08:36 pm ET (#23)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

lineage was going down hill... i think it just went over the cliff

October 30, 2002 08:54 pm ET (#24)

PeNTeL
Loyal Fan
299 posts
12-11-01

good o.o now watch it fall liek a rock~!

October 30, 2002 08:56 pm ET (#25)

Protocol
Loyal Fan
271 posts
03-26-02

there's more to pking then getting drops -_- i pk jus cuz i like fighting other ppl.... it is one of the best aspects of playing lineage and takes more skills then fighting only mops... the drop change is alright i guess... since i never used to get anything anywayz \./ they should keep races too! i spent loads of my money there for fun lol

October 30, 2002 09:06 pm ET (#26)

mmorpg
Loyal Fan
63 posts
09-18-02

-2k for para >.< thats a shit load of law for such a common spell y would they make it take that much?? to discourage ppl from using it?? wheres the point in that?? -.-

October 30, 2002 09:19 pm ET (#27)

BlackBow
Loyal Fan
39 posts
06-12-02

You shouldn't lose so much law for attack spells... the penalty is there if you actually manage to kill someone. It's like saying for knights and elves that you lose 500 law for each hit you land on someone when your pink.

October 30, 2002 09:47 pm ET (#28)

WiNDSTONE
Loyal Fan
1 posts
10-16-02

penanlty for using curse magic on ppl is unfair for mage and elf.
if a knight fight with sword and a mage or elf fight using some curse magic,
after fight knight will still have full lawful and mage or elf will not.
knight also should get penalty for swinging their sword to other charactors to be fair.

October 30, 2002 10:33 pm ET (#29)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

#15 It's a law in korea and it will be enforced forcing cafes to stop letting minors play. People only don't care about ESRB over here in north america...

October 30, 2002 10:51 pm ET (#30)

melanor
Loyal Fan
61 posts
10-15-02

yeah no one ever cares about esrb in america,

2k per para is just unreasonable, para is the only major defense mages have against knights, and this will make it worse with elfs too, cause only thing i ever see work on them is cancel and firestorm, but to get back on topic with all the negative changes that nci has made this will just make it worse. right now the small penalty that is already in on our servers is fine, and i know my mage would be -32k in alignment just from one siege.

plus it takes forever to go ahead and get lawfull points cause mages easly get slaughtered by mops that give a lot.

the only thing i see that could make the penalty that they testing out doable and wouldnt make everyone mad is make it so that mages get may 5x the lawfull points from mops. so it wont be so hard to make up for all the spells cast

October 30, 2002 11:03 pm ET (#31)

Ashtray
Loyal Fan
55 posts
10-03-02

WTF!? NO MORE PVP DROP!?!?!!?
AHHH THEY KILLED OFF PKING -_-

October 30, 2002 11:46 pm ET (#32)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

Take a look at this.....very interesting....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vnunet.com/News/1136154 <<<<<<<<<<<<<

these ppl over in Asia.....geez......
don't they realize that they r human and need water/food/rest to live??????

MMORPG over there is like a disease....
it spreads and making ppl go crazy and die.....

October 31, 2002 12:09 am ET (#33)

CrazyManiac
Loyal Fan
37 posts
06-23-02

They will NOT carry these over to US servers, because we are not in a "outside the game" situation. In korea, Lin was rated a 18+ rating. Which means NC korea loses half of their profits bascially, the reasons for such a high rating were subjects such as: Gambling addiction, use of real money for in-game items, the encouragment of killing for items, etc. So, NC must remove these items from Korean servers. But, in North America, we have already got a Teen rating (13+), from the ESRB. We do not need to worry~!

October 31, 2002 12:36 am ET (#34)

redpig
Loyal Fan
283 posts
10-15-02

#32
many die from that
also suicide cuz certain things in game
also ppl fight in r/l over lin,like real fights........so it's a big problem in asia
but probably won't happen in US server

but this won't kill pking~O.o;;;
cuz some ppl like to pk cuz they like to~o.o
also fights at drake spawns,fv beaches will still go on.........

October 31, 2002 02:12 am ET (#35)

WizSnake
Loyal Fan
260 posts
06-21-02

ok first this is K O R E A N TEST NOT AMERICAN BABOS THAT MEANS THAT THESE ARE NOT COMING TO U S FOR SURE AND IF THEY DO NOT FOR A LONG TIME SECOND-THE Chaotic attack magic penalties have been reduced Chaotic attack magic penalties have been reduced Chaotic attack magic penalties have been reduced Chaotic attack magic penalties have been reduced YOU READ IT NOW IDIOTS?!?!?!?!?@?!#?!?@!#! IM TIRED OF U BABOS NOT READING EVERYTHING OMG THEY HAVE BEEN R E D U C E D yes that means you get L E S S chaotic for using the spell so if u whining mages want to complain you should of a LONG time ago when they first made the spells make u chao oh and guess what? THAT WAS A L O N G TIME AGO AND ITS NOT EVEN IN THE US YET SO ALL OF U QUIT WORRYING ABOUT THE KOREANS

October 31, 2002 02:19 am ET (#36)

thebaddog
Loyal Fan
24 posts
06-02-02

NC-Austin cant program, they have 1 old guy who sits around and types "translate" and then fixes huge grammer problems. these changes, if they make it to the korean live servers, will come here to prevent huge numbers of koreans playing here. oooh and #35... it never came to korean live, it was an idea, thats why we havent seen it in US -.-; I would worry alot about korean servers, since we get the same updates (not events, repeat, UPDATES) as them.

October 31, 2002 03:17 am ET (#37)

WizSnake
Loyal Fan
260 posts
06-21-02

bad dog we do not get the exact same updates they have so much different stuff than us its not even funny and i know it didnt go to korean live i didnt say it did

October 31, 2002 03:26 am ET (#38)

mp34567
Loyal Fan
89 posts
06-28-02

The majority of the new changes are geared towards one goal: to prevent people from pking. NC figures that if the consequences for turning chaotic are drastic enough than the result will be a less violent [teen] game, thus affecting the way the game is evaluated. Frankly, such changes truly obstruct the gameplay and kill the allure of this game: player to player combat.

On a positive note, the penalty for casting choatic spells has been lowered. (So kudos for that!) Im still disappointed, however. Since the conditions for such spells to function properly are rather intolerable. (My lvl 40 20 int mage still has trouble paralyzing knights that are lower level than me and even more so with those who are higher level) Considerably raise their success rate!~
Make them worth the gems, magic, hit points, and time i waste in casting them!

October 31, 2002 04:08 am ET (#39)

Exiled
Loyal Fan
12 posts
10-12-02

if there is no drop.. just make the entire map a combat zone ~~ what a stupid idea though

October 31, 2002 05:22 am ET (#40)

PeNTeL
Loyal Fan
299 posts
12-11-01

o.o hey guys i found some really cool optical illusions~ pretty fun o.o+cool

stop looking at lineage o.o u need some optical illusions rest!

http://home.neo.rr.com/wheelerweb/optical.swf

October 31, 2002 06:26 am ET (#41)

QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan
173 posts
02-05-02

NC is just making its customers happier.

Remember, 85% or so of players in Korea play a knight, and this change (I am refering to the alightment hit on mage's spells) will make them happier. Less mages to bother them!!

(and yes, I think it is unfair, and yes, I wonder when NC will stop nerphing and nerphing the mage class. Here I am lvling up quite well as an int/wis bow with a damn BOW!!! I feel stupid... also the AC that costed me so much to get... considering selling all my overzeld items, as they are mostly useless now...)

October 31, 2002 07:57 am ET (#42)

BlueP
Loyal Fan
20 posts
10-12-02

11/30 Live Server updates

1.�� Mages-specific items will blow up when used against a knight
2.��The mages magic will be uneffective against knights
3.��Knights no longer drop items
4.��Mages can't have more than 10,000 law points.
5.��New mages creation has been disabled

Sorry... I had to write it... *^^*

October 31, 2002 08:27 am ET (#43)

Drathus
Loyal Fan
61 posts
05-08-02

BlueP FOOL! You are giving them ideas.. Before you know it they will implement it.

October 31, 2002 09:25 am ET (#44)

Killazerg
Loyal Fan
101 posts
02-05-02

That suks, item blowing, not droping, whats the purpose of being pk?
-.- ghaaa not good

October 31, 2002 10:05 am ET (#45)

Raistleen
Loyal Fan
60 posts
05-16-02

Hey, don't be so worried about the changes to get 13+ rating in korea, i have two reasons they'll never make it to US servers:
1- We don't get all the updates (we have the auto loot, they have the can't-touch-my-drop-till-15secs-pass thingie, remember the comic?)
2.- US laws can tolerate violence in a greater amount than anyone else in the world, as long as the swimsuits succubus wear don't reveal nipples or anything else related to sex, the rating will stay on 13+, so no need to implement changes ;)

A society so permeable to violence and intolerant to sex had to have some advantages, didn't it? XDDD

October 31, 2002 12:12 pm ET (#46)

FAHAD
Loyal Fan
54 posts
10-12-02

hi

October 31, 2002 12:30 pm ET (#47)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

#45
1. We do get all the updates now. I am hoping that will change with this update cus its fuckin gay.
2. Its not like the rating even maters in the US. if Lineage had a mature rating we could still goto gamerooms and play. This is were the problem is in korea.

October 31, 2002 01:39 pm ET (#48)

TCUBED
Loyal Fan
109 posts
03-18-02

yeah the 18+ videogame rating stuff never is enforced at places like EB or PlanetX :)

October 31, 2002 03:05 pm ET (#49)

Tissot
Loyal Fan
180 posts
06-22-02

�

That update is bad, and thats all there is too it. But who cares when the world is destroying itself anyway!

Tissot

October 31, 2002 04:33 pm ET (#50)

QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan
173 posts
02-05-02

If this change comes through we will no longer see any chaotic characters in game...

Am I one of the few that think it would be GREAT if full chaotic had special advantages (like, not loosing points when killing mops...), and that it would make roleplaying much more nicer?

October 31, 2002 05:05 pm ET (#51)

Friggy
Loyal Fan
97 posts
09-09-02

i am a pker but i dont pk for drops....

i consider drops as a bonus for my job.

il pk for fun and fame ( screw Test Wipe ! )

October 31, 2002 07:47 pm ET (#52)

Alexei
Loyal Fan
34 posts
09-11-02

So if I play non-PvP server will I drop if not full law or is this only in PvP server ?

~^

October 31, 2002 10:07 pm ET (#53)

mmorpg
Loyal Fan
63 posts
09-18-02

lol also this update wont kill pk >.< i only pk 25% f the time for drops all the other time is because someone is pissing me off or a im just in a bad mood that day ;)

November 01, 2002 02:29 pm ET (#54)

Friggy
Loyal Fan
97 posts
09-09-02

its like this : a monitor got pked ..... then NC cant stand it and banishes PK from the game.... eventualy everything will be safety/combat zone only ! il bet a mil on that !

NC cant stand things against them....

November 01, 2002 02:33 pm ET (#55)

Friggy
Loyal Fan
97 posts
09-09-02

like the bright high IQ idea of em to make para spells -8k lawfull...

strange that i heard a monitor was paralyzed .... ( in ice caves )

u can compare NC with Shinra inc.

but good j0b lowering the chaotic spells punishments...

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