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September 22, 2002 07:58 pm ET - research by WaterElf

Bomelith hits 51

Its been about 5 weeks since we heard of Bomelith the level 50 Wind Elf on Ken server. Today I finally got to interview him in person near Giran inn. It was late at night in the city Giran, people roamed around the bank area. A crowd was forming around a Demon, it was Bomelith. A elf name Laura went up to him and asked about his class. She was surprised he was an elf and yelled "Your an Elf??!!". I quickly moved up to him to remind him about our interview that i've been bothering him about all week. He finally accepted and we moved to a lesser crowded area, Giran Inn.

Bomelith is the usual hardcore level 50+ player. He hunts in DV, Fire Valley (I noticed he is now a Water Elf -- his Nature's Blessing spell allowed him to spend mainly ZERO pot money hunting) and 7th floor of the Ivory Tower. He says that that place had good exp until NC nerfed the exp. Bomelith devotes about 5-14 hours a day hunting or shall i say playing.

Bomelith's items are quite amazing, but typical for the lv 50+ player. He uses a +8 Yumi, +9 Rapier and a +8 Blessed Katana. If you wonder whats with all the swords, well he is a CON elf and added +1 to con for his stats. His AC isn't that bad -47 base with bow.

Despite his delevel on thurday, he managed to relevel and show us his flaming morph. Bomelith wants to thank Sabrine for keeping him in line and his pledge, The ElvenBloodOrder. Bomelith also has a request for NC; A better elven morph for 40+. The lv 16 Orc Scout doesn't cut it.

September 22, 2002 07:59 pm ET (#1)

VoLT
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174 posts
12-02-01

what? this si not true

September 22, 2002 07:59 pm ET (#2)

FlyZ
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791 posts
11-11-01

Good Job o.o tho I don't play Ken...
Don on dep's 51 too

September 22, 2002 08:02 pm ET (#3)

KnightGuy
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55 posts
04-16-02

congrats! ^^

September 22, 2002 08:04 pm ET (#4)

OLDMAN
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100 posts
04-04-02

Why on earth did he add con..should have added Dex or Str.

September 22, 2002 08:06 pm ET (#5)

WizSnake
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260 posts
06-21-02

47 ac...

September 22, 2002 08:09 pm ET (#6)

Bilsabub
Loyal Fan
31 posts
12-01-01

ya, y to con? so he can regen a LITTLE quicker?

and i'm confused....is he water elf or not?

September 22, 2002 08:10 pm ET (#7)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

yea..i wouldnt add con unless it raised your max hp..
maybe thats what he thot would happen..

or..if he plans to get like lvl 60 and add all con it would be a really good regen rate..

September 22, 2002 08:14 pm ET (#8)

DragonX
Loyal Fan
65 posts
09-17-02

yea..i would add dex if hes a con knight and uses bow sometimes o_O try to get to 18 dex with 18 con too o.o...i guess if he plans on level 60 con is a good pic

September 22, 2002 08:20 pm ET (#9)

WaterElf
LC Reporter
145 posts
11-16-01

bom said he hopes that added con will help with future hp rolls -.- i doubt it does

September 22, 2002 08:24 pm ET (#10)

gigi
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641 posts
05-01-02

...add con........
an 18str18dex18con elf is good enough - -;...

September 22, 2002 08:24 pm ET (#11)

Doomscythe
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1155 posts
03-21-02

O.o i would have placed my point on dex or str

September 22, 2002 08:40 pm ET (#12)

JeffKash
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37 posts
04-04-02

ya, thats right... don is saying hes quitting, already spent 4 mil on fireworks, took him like an hour to use em all. Hes 51... but doesn't look like it will matter.

September 22, 2002 08:59 pm ET (#13)

BloodLusts
Loyal Fan
313 posts
01-26-02

putting it in con is pretty pointless, i would have suggested him to put it into str so that he can hit a bit harder and be able to lvl faster. When he reaches 52 he is probably gona feel stupid for putting it in CON cause STR would do good for him in fights against knights....
But heh he still got to 51 and thats good.
Ken needs a DK sooner or later ~.~
I play DEP and DK's add a bit of punch to sieges =D

September 22, 2002 09:37 pm ET (#14)

Taera
LC Reporter
333 posts
01-30-02

oo oo better elf morph: fire archer, but faster ~_~ yeah yeah!

September 22, 2002 10:17 pm ET (#15)

thebaddog
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24 posts
06-02-02

maybe the first 52 on ken will be an elf... it would be doing things ken-style ;-)

September 22, 2002 10:23 pm ET (#16)

Avari
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35 posts
09-07-02

i did some research on the hp gained after 18.... seach lin compendium for posidons info when he hit... 58, he had 705 base hp's for an average of 12.1 and at 66 he has 842 base hp's, for an average of 12.75... now thats just 1 example, now example 2.. light, check his hp's at lvl 60 (732 base), and at 65, 814 base (12.52 average) in both cases.. they added con, and in both cases the average ammount increased, in posiedon's case, it is drasticly improved from 12.1 to 12.75, but then again.. he put into con sooner and longer than light did also... i know this is only 2 example's, but just say bome puts into con till 52.. then starts on dex, and makes lvl 60'ish, he will have about 8-9 slightly higher lvl up's.. and will have most likely have more hp's than another lvl 60 elf.. and he will be the one laughing at you guys o.o

September 22, 2002 10:33 pm ET (#17)

Avari
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35 posts
09-07-02

oh and one more thing... he will need to add 3 to dex, before he gets another point of damage (if you refer to the new dex damage chart on this site)so, in anycase, besides the increased regain rate.. con DOES allow him to carry more... and he uses a bow 100% of the time for hunting (as do i, and im another con elf) sword for him is just as it is for me... for dueling and the occasional change of pace in a hunt.. so str is only needed for dueling, str increase damage with sword and increases carrying, (1 of these is good for bow user) while con, improves regain, improves weight carrying capacity (and has MORE evidence that it does increase hp gain per lvl.. than there is against it), all of these benefits are good for a primarily bow user.

ps, before you guys start saying that con above 18 base does NOT add to hp gain on lvl up, i want some sort of proof.. as in the case i gave you in favor of it... also do not say that you have tried it with con sword/con ammy/con helm etc... that is not the same thing as base con, those items regain (in increments of 2) and increase carrying capacity also, but do not improve lvl up hp's.

September 22, 2002 11:22 pm ET (#18)

K-ZS-M
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925 posts
05-04-02

let the guy be...
if he wanted to add con....so be it...
I'm sure he thought about it before adding it.....

this will get more elves in reaching lvl 50+...

September 22, 2002 11:30 pm ET (#19)

BloodLusts
Loyal Fan
313 posts
01-26-02

Im a Con Elf and once i reach 50+ ill be addin it to Str for the first few points
cause i know that im gona be using DK more then DE.
and STR increase dmge, and carriny capacity, which are both useful at sieges and pking.

September 22, 2002 11:31 pm ET (#20)

WizSnake
Loyal Fan
260 posts
06-21-02

ok guys this really confuses me his ac...if he uses NO pot money like the interview said(since he was water) then why isnt his ac better? im not tryin 2 b rude but people on dep have better ac and we should b poorer cuz on ken u mostly just hunt dep theres fights...mayb since there arent as many people on ken there arent as good of items around? :-/

September 22, 2002 11:33 pm ET (#21)

TeronElf
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185 posts
09-21-02

Meaningless posts will be deleted. You don't have to post on *every* article. ^^
... so whatis he added con? Congrats to him.

September 22, 2002 11:39 pm ET (#22)

andie
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6 posts
06-02-02

Yay, go Bome.

His AC sucks because he is using a bow, and he always hunt with a bow so a point of con isn't that bad of a choice :)

September 22, 2002 11:41 pm ET (#23)

PikaPoo
Loyal Fan
59 posts
01-24-02

Yes its true.. If Ur a con elf alrdy.. its hard for u to fight with swords or bows if u dont add into str or maybe at least dex. Cuz starting off u have around 4 less stats then a knight would have i mean to have on str or con
( correct me if im wrong) if u spend all this stats on con.. ull miss out on putting points into other areas, cuz from 51-65 = 15 stats(?_?)... after dat.. at level 65, from the previous interview with Poesiden, it says exp gain = double the amount.Unless ur a really really hardcore player like poseiden, u should really chose ur stats wisely. Cuz if u put points just for carrying weight.. i would say it would be a waste.I believe it was said.. str + con = 44 or 46, dats ur max carry weight.. but ur 18 con.. then with 25 str (let say u add stats to dat much).. dat = 43 o.o but then elfs get a 24/7 str, cuz of blood to soul(very very amazing spell) so +5 str more.. dats more then 44 or 46 stats.. For knights is different point of view cuz they cant 24/7 str.. take them years to regen there mp
Well dats just an opinion.
Btw, congrats to both of u elfs o.o

September 22, 2002 11:48 pm ET (#24)

YuGi
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159 posts
02-19-02

Marak im waiting for u to hit lvl 52~~~^^
congratz Bome~~^^ DE morph kick a$$~~^^
i will be lvl 52~~just dont know when~~~lol
wish me luck~~~

~~Da Only YuGi on Ken~~

September 22, 2002 11:51 pm ET (#25)

WizSnake
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260 posts
06-21-02

okok instead of compairin his ac to dep server can a few of you Ken elfs post ur ac? even if its "bad" i wanna get an idea of ken normal ac plz :-) ty

September 23, 2002 12:14 am ET (#26)

Spyder
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148 posts
12-04-01

congrats Bome~

though i myself cant see con as a reasonable choice, im sure u had a reason.

i think instead of a better morph at lvl 40, elfs should get an option next to infravion and elf rotc that says sumthing like "Elf Polymorph On/Off (lvl 40 elf)" so u can keep elf's good speed and be considered polymorphed with sum mops not aggresive to u =p

and another ongoing thing i have with the elfs gettin closer to DK and DE, is that im sure ur not gonna be too happy watchin lvl 52knights in DE morph so much faster with bow then an elf in DE morph /.\ i think NC should make waferthe same as brave when in sosc...just ideas~
congrats again man u lvl'in very nice.

September 23, 2002 12:17 am ET (#27)

Spyder
Loyal Fan
148 posts
12-04-01

o ummmm, am i the only 1 that noticed this or is it old news that the demon to the left of Bome is BeBi, the other lvl 50 elf (now lvl 51??) wuts goin on lol o.O did i miss her interview or sumthin?

September 23, 2002 12:22 am ET (#28)

PikaPoo
Loyal Fan
59 posts
01-24-02

no i noticed it too o.o
at the end of my post o.o kaka

September 23, 2002 12:35 am ET (#29)

Doomscythe
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1155 posts
03-21-02

ya nobody interview Bebi

September 23, 2002 12:39 am ET (#30)

DrunkenKnight
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81 posts
04-25-02

spyder what are you talking about the knight on a brave and green shoots faster in a de morph than a elf wafer de morph...the elfs shoots faster...

September 23, 2002 01:01 am ET (#31)

Avari
Loyal Fan
35 posts
09-07-02

wizsnake READ it carefully... his ac is good at least... if not very good, -47 bow BASE!!! here is the key... with a bow and BASE! please read more carefully, now... with this in mind.. we add in his spells and a shield... -47 then becomes -67 47 + 8 (iskin) + 3 (blessed armor) + 9 (+7 es), now tell me that -67 is bad AC by any standards? let alone.. a con elf (that dosnt get much of a dex/ac bonus) as he has only 12 base dex.

September 23, 2002 01:04 am ET (#32)

TwistMeh
Loyal Fan
146 posts
06-17-02

O.o 12 dex? i thought he had 13 dex.

September 23, 2002 01:16 am ET (#33)

Spyder
Loyal Fan
148 posts
12-04-01

hehe drunken"knight" obviously u overlook that wafer is only like 20% faster speed while brave is 50% faster, elf haste wafer DE morph is no where near a hasted braved DE knight
the same with DK morph, hasted wafer elf is a joke in speed compared to a hasted braved knight in DK morph, knights swing so fast its like a blur O.o the only reason wafer makes no morph elfs faster then no morph knights is because elfs start with a faster swing overall, but its like elf "morph" once elf sosc's then wafer hardly makes a diference...

September 23, 2002 01:48 am ET (#34)

GovernMent
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137 posts
04-30-02

my ac on dep before the dex update and before i quit was -68 wiht outspells. i was con elf btw.

September 23, 2002 01:51 am ET (#35)

Bomelith
Loyal Fan
19 posts
09-22-02

I chose con because I want better hp rolls and carry more. With me delving and relvling (gained 3 hp - 621 hp total) any indication, it does help with the hp rolls. Even though I delvled, I kept the con 19 stat at lvl 49. It might be just a fluke but Avari research convinced me it would work. Besides with an elven cloak and con 20 at lvl 52, I will have the fastest regen rate on the server. There are plenty of points left to assign to dex and str later. Also there are magic enchantments to boost dex and str...not con. After lvl 52, i am planning to add to dex and str. With str and dex ammy, this would give me +1 damage for both bow and sword attack. From there, I will assign pts to dex til dex 18...if I get that far.

September 23, 2002 01:55 am ET (#36)

PikaPoo
Loyal Fan
59 posts
01-24-02

Avari for a level 51 elf for Bomelith.. his ac is quite bad even with bow..
i have alrdy -44 at 48 18 con elf no enchants (with bow)o.o
and my items are Kraptastic o.o
Considering hes 51 o.o i think he should have better ac. Or i suppose he did it on purpose so he can buy all those weapons.
+9 rap, +8 yumi, +8 b kat.
I dunno wuts the going rate for it on Ken.. but it sure is hella lot on dep server o.o

September 23, 2002 01:55 am ET (#37)

smckilla
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27 posts
03-29-02

-47 base is very low. But good job on getting 51!

September 23, 2002 01:57 am ET (#38)

PikaPoo
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59 posts
01-24-02

Btw Bomelith.. ur hp = 621
is it with Orc + 50 hp belt?

September 23, 2002 02:04 am ET (#39)

Taelis
Loyal Fan
53 posts
01-20-02

Marak2001 will be the first level 52. (hes a prince). Hes at 51.79 now..

September 23, 2002 02:09 am ET (#40)

PikaPoo
Loyal Fan
59 posts
01-24-02

Wow hes 79% now?
Its kinda sad LOL
how a prince can beat a knight to DK?
Who woulda thought this day would come LOL o.o?
Wutever happened to Gentile the 50 mage and RockmanX the 50 Knight
they were 2 of the first 50's on Ken sever

September 23, 2002 02:21 am ET (#41)

wingzerohero
Loyal Fan
109 posts
03-06-02

great job bome
i want to see a de in fv next time i play!

and btw is it just me that always sees drunkenknights negative MEANINGLESS posts? he has never ever said one constructive post, always tries to pick a fight. Must have had the same childhood as enemim.

gentile and rockmanx were the first 50's... ever i think

but gentile took a break after hitting 50, then he played a bit in may and june and said the game turned for the worst, see soft ac, pot delay, and som all nerfed after him reaching 50 and it can prove difficult to hunt now as mage and not die to lag and its proved since like 5% (and 90% are like knights) of all players(worldwide) above 50 are mages, i see unbalance if you ask me.

September 23, 2002 02:31 am ET (#42)

BloodLusts
Loyal Fan
313 posts
01-26-02

YOu have a point Bomelith about ur Stat going into Con
however i still think that Adding to sTR is gona give any con elf an advantage over knights espeacilly with str ammy and pgs which make it even more buffed o.o

To me the reasons why i want to be DK ELF...
#1. Own Those Knights -- who are having all the luck with the updates
#2. Go To Sieges and do something other then bowing !!
#3. Hunt With +9RAP/KAT and lvl Fast
#4. Go to a DM and Kill More Mops
#5. Being Able to say. "Im Gona Go Pk that #$%@#$ up KnIghT" w/o having to rely on COI!
#6. Being Able To add points into Stats
#7. Cant think of anything else at moment --

PS> I Play DEP but! Im not gona say what my elf's name is --

September 23, 2002 02:34 am ET (#43)

ZPsyMageZ
Loyal Fan
110 posts
12-01-01

-47 with no shield ...
isnt bad... but no that good. but still stong.

September 23, 2002 02:51 am ET (#44)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

this is for bomelith, i have some points to make however:

you may wish to ask melantus about those increased HP rolls in terms of dlvling. reason being is mel says it is random when u lvl down, and random when u lvl up, given your con, as to the range of hp. meaning even with higher hp rolls given your con, you might also be increasing your high hp loss when/if u delvl. u might wish to check on that.

the reason i was shocked to see a con elf put a point into con, especially if you are a 12 dex con elf (my con elf is rolled, so it has 13 dex) is the fact that with 13 dex you gain a bonus ac every 6 lvls, while with 12 isnt it every 7 lvls? i would have thought getting an 18 con, 18 dex elf as fast as possible to be the ideal thing. the reason also is that elves only get damage and accuracy bonuses from their lvl to bows. this means at high enough lvls bows will be the ultimate choice. theoretically, if my elf ever reached the level of 56, putting points into dex to raise it to 18, he would have: 14 bonus ac, +5 to bow damage, and +11 to bow accuracy. i dunno what ER he would have, and he would be a bad ass bow user. just thoughts however, you play the game as you wish, don't ever let people sway your ideas. congrats on your lvl. using that calculator i would be lvl 53 on my elf. almost 49 now... (dep)... have fun!

September 23, 2002 03:15 am ET (#45)

Blahk
Loyal Fan
234 posts
02-02-02

is test down or something?? i wanna watch dm a couple more times before my acct runs out!!! gj bome dont listen to these ppl saying con was stupid...wat did u add on lv 50??

September 23, 2002 04:21 am ET (#46)

WizSnake
Loyal Fan
260 posts
06-21-02

BloodLusts...in DM elfs have advantage over knights. elfs can hit mop first and get all the xp from it (first hit gets majority of xp points) why you think silverslicer is in 3rd place over dk knights and knights? yes skill but also cuz he has distance benefit so if i were elf i would use de morph not dk in deathmatch...

September 23, 2002 04:29 am ET (#47)

souvenirs
Loyal Fan
13 posts
09-11-02

hey govern your base ac was -68? without dex update and no spells
hahaha yeah man i believe you. so then after the dex update you would have like
-75ac and the with spells like enchant armor earth skin and shield you would be like -82ac or some crap.. damn u must of been a pretty tough elf
too bad your a nerd hahaha
hey if added con does give you better hp gain so then why wouldn't those lv 65 knights add con to their stats. say u get an extra 2hp for having 20 base con. man that would be so sweet. wow if this proves true. i'm gonna be adding con to every lv after lv 50 untill lv 60 that means i would have 28 con.. damn that would be awesome and then my hp lv gain would be like 20-25 or something.. then i would delevel all the way down to lv 10 and start releveling with my con at 28. and then by the time i reach level 50 i'd have like 1000+ hp and i would own lineage and make you all my slaves and i'll be king and be a real fat greedy bastard like jabba the hut

September 23, 2002 04:36 am ET (#48)

TwistMeh
Loyal Fan
146 posts
06-17-02

Did he say delvl to 49?!?!?! O.o
Hehe maybe Bomelith should lvl to 52 boost con to 20 and delvl till lvl 10 then go up again. Hah.
What i do is lvl 65 elf:
con 20
dex 18
Str 19

But then who the hell am I to say anything

September 23, 2002 04:50 am ET (#49)

Blahk
Loyal Fan
234 posts
02-02-02

i repeat*is test down??* amer or bigpope or amateras stop deleting my posts@!! this is MEANINGFUL so you have no excuse!! gj bom(now u cant say it was meaningless)

September 23, 2002 05:58 am ET (#50)

FightDaPower
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71 posts
05-23-02

"...he managed to relevel and show us his flaming morph." LOL waterelf u do realize flaming is a slang for GAY right? lmao. No offense or nothing but i just thought its funny cuz he was tryin to complement him on his morph but instead insulted him (unintentionally ofcourse) lol talk about irony.

September 23, 2002 06:41 am ET (#51)

TheCollector
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351 posts
09-07-02

blahk: i dont think u get a bonus stat for hitting 50 alone, except for knights i believe. well... what do i know i dont own a lvl 50 knight or elf ~~

isnt there a max hp in this game? of 999 or something? if so, souvenirs, by the time u hit lvl 60 and have all that con, if u were a con char to begin with, i doubt u would need a whole lot more max hp. but damn the regen would be nice ^^
i still would rather put into dex, since elves are basically forced into bows due to those bow-only bonuses, which would totally own at lvl 60 hehe +6 damage +12 to hit on top of -15 bonus dex/ac and dex-related bow damage/accuracy that would be totally kicking..

September 23, 2002 07:13 am ET (#52)

Vail
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260 posts
02-27-02

Constitution past 18 doesn't give you higher HP, only makes you regenerate faster...I hope he knew that. He doesn't need to carry more either since he uses ZERO Adena on potions.

#16/17 That slight increase in HP for Poseidon and Light is called lucky rolls. I assure you, adding Con won't do anything to help your max HP. I've gotten the same kind of increases in HP as Poseidon and Light from time to time, and I'm not 50+. Either way, it's a big gamble, and he probably made a mistake.

#33 Don't forget that Elves swing faster than Knights to begin with, before the Braves, Wafers, Hastes.

I've said it a million times, and I'll say it again. DON'T make Elves to fight Knights! Don't you people get it? Make Knights if you want to fight Knights! If you want all the cool Updates, make a Knight! I'm tired of all these Elves whining when they're not NEAR being the most unbalanced Class in the game. Let's focus on Mages and Prince/ss a little NC!

September 23, 2002 07:17 am ET (#53)

Kandy
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90 posts
10-20-01

Go BeBi ~_~

September 23, 2002 07:22 am ET (#54)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

Blahk we haven't deleted a single post of yours in two weeks!

Maybe we should start.. ^^

September 23, 2002 08:09 am ET (#55)

h2ombre
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333 posts
02-28-02

#52 "I've gotten the same kind of increases in HP as Poseidon and Light from time to time, and I'm not 50+." Poseidon averaged over 17hp per lvl from 58 to 66. You are telling us you did this with 18con?

September 23, 2002 09:33 am ET (#56)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

she is saying that she sometimes got that increase with 18 con....

it is a gamble of luck in how much HP u get per lvl up....

no matter if con does increase or not...
whoever gets to lvl 51+ to put in those extra stats, r they gonna continue to lvl...?

in long run, guess con does help...if not increase chances in getting more HP but u recover at such a great rate as well...

September 23, 2002 09:35 am ET (#57)

ailsa
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118 posts
06-30-02

wow he is fast at lvling

September 23, 2002 12:35 pm ET (#58)

Neo
Loyal Fan
219 posts
12-05-01

Sorry guys this is not first lvl 51 US elf.
DonQuichotte have been 51 for age and wasnt far from 52.
he just Quit coz i Stopped Lineage to.

but congrats for lvl 51 ^^

Neo

September 23, 2002 12:43 pm ET (#59)

PenDragon
Loyal Fan
34 posts
06-18-02

Double Congratz Bomelith and you too Bebi!!

Yes he levels extremely fast.
He also plays alot of hours.

About his AC. Since he got little benefit from DEX/AC bonus it seems as though his items are at least +2 above normal zel. That equates to some serious value in AC and weapons.

September 23, 2002 12:48 pm ET (#60)

Taera
LC Reporter
333 posts
01-30-02

we miss you neo :( I can't believe you are gone!

September 23, 2002 12:59 pm ET (#61)

kwiver
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106 posts
04-07-02

don would be first DE elf

sad he's gone!

September 23, 2002 01:41 pm ET (#62)

TheStoned0ne
Loyal Fan
35 posts
03-31-02

con highly likely ads to lvl up remember the consword bug long time ago?
if u used it and gained the +1 con from the sword u gained better lvl ups

September 23, 2002 01:43 pm ET (#63)

TCUBED
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109 posts
03-18-02

FreeUrMind = couldve been a SICK pledge

September 23, 2002 01:59 pm ET (#64)

BlueSilver
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70 posts
09-23-02

heh theres always kuty to beat up the knights

September 23, 2002 02:18 pm ET (#65)

Mph78
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4 posts
06-12-02

Putting the point in Con is a gamble i wouldnt take. Considering the fact that at lvl up its totaly random what one will get is the first gamble. Considering that the thing that Bome has to be hopeing for the most is good lvl ups its too risky. Carry more pots is ok but depending on how one hunts (usally 1 Sosc at a time) carrying capacity really doesnt matter much.
For Regen rate Bome u really didnt think, wouldnt everyone say about 90% of the time you hunt over weight, makeing regen rate totaly useless in most cases, except at Mother tree. Dex i think would have been the best place for the point because he does use a bow. But thats my opintion and i hope con works for ya. (BTW does anyone know when the Vet questions are comin out, i still need to know what dex above 18 does for +damage)

September 23, 2002 02:38 pm ET (#66)

Traen
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01-19-02

w00t elves!

September 23, 2002 02:42 pm ET (#67)

amer
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864 posts
07-11-01

Maybe Bomelith will come and post on his reasoning. It's also hard to make any conclusions on why he picked what stat because we don't know what he put the original extra point (after CON 18) in. Think about your options when picking a stat as an elf:

STR: increase carrying capacity, more bow dmg but nothing like +DEX
CON: increase carrying capacity, regen rate and level up by 1HP
DEX: increase damage, increase AC, increase ER
WIS: increase MR, increase MP regen/level up
CHA: more pets
INT: more SP, less MP on spells

Now, if you were specifically interested in carrying more pots -- you could choose either STR or CON. Why would you pick STR instead of CON. They are the same except CON has a few extra perks.

September 23, 2002 03:03 pm ET (#68)

BlueSilver
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70 posts
09-23-02

ummm i would prefer extra damage

September 23, 2002 03:43 pm ET (#69)

Bomelith
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19 posts
09-22-02

I hunt under 50% weight 98% of the time...if not more. Right now, I only carry 15 oranges for emergencies. My number one problem right now is collecting too many pots. Sometimes I burn reds to stay underweight. I hunt with a bow and carrying arrows is a consideration. I use nature's blessing and blood to soul extensively. And with con 20 and elven cloak, recovering from blood to soul is a cinch.

Picking con for better hp is a gamble but within the range of 15 lvls, it will pay off. Your average hp gains will be higher, assuming it helps with hp rolls. Its not definite but I will take that chance. With DE shooting 1000 arrows/sec, I will have no problem lvling fast at 52 and beyond. Also another reason I picked con is that I found you waste a lot arrows with DE morph. Carrying more arrows with DE morph will be important. Plenty of damage with DE morph's speed as is. I am patient and can wait for the dex bonuses.

September 23, 2002 03:50 pm ET (#70)

Bomelith
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09-22-02

BTW, I hunt til I run out of arrows. In ivory tower, my hunts sometime last more than 3 hrs, using two wolves to carry drops. Amer, the orginal extra point went to dex.

September 23, 2002 04:32 pm ET (#71)

TuffBuff
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09-18-02

Bome, you burn ur reds to stay under 50% o.O
I always see you in fv so let me buy ur reds every time you r overweight.hehe
Anyway, Congratz again hitting 51.
I died 4 times at lvl 50 and lost 50% but i will try to catch you up soon.
See ya in fv bud.

September 23, 2002 04:37 pm ET (#72)

HERC
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09-20-02

Ooops I was logged in TuffBuff o.O
I relogged under HERC hehe. Its HERC who died 4 times =(

#52
I am not sure when don became lvl 51 but BeBi hit 51 like 3 weeks ago. We have 2 hardcore elf hunters.
oh yeah, Neo, I hate to hear you quit and delete your mage >.< I don't know what the reason was but i hope you have good luck in whatever you do.
I wonder if I have the highest lvl mage now =/

September 23, 2002 06:42 pm ET (#73)

amer
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864 posts
07-11-01

Now we have his reasoning too. (Thanks Bomelith!)

Theoretically, every extra point in CON should increase the range of HP level up by 1. So, he went from 8-13HP/level to 9-14HP/level. Another point would put him at 10-15HP/level which is *more than a CON knight*.

At level 51, Bomelith could pick:
STR: carry more, negligible bonus to bow damage
CON: carry more, 1 extra HP per tick, 1 extra HP per level up
DEX: hit more often, ER +1, move one step closer to +1 bow damage, move one step closer to -2 AC bonus (which barely matters with soft AC)
WIS: possible 1 extra MP per tick, but more likely no difference, move one step closer to increased MP per level up, but not really that much
INT: -1 MP on spell cost, one step closer to +1 SP
CHA: no difference for 5 more CHA - what a waste

CHA - obviously not.

INT and WIS would be insane since the magic system is just not very rewarding.

DEX just has no short term benefit, and I'm sure he wants to get to 52 before he starts making any "long-term" decisions.

STR is great for carrying, but CON is just the same as STR with a few added bonuses. And it looks like he'll even notice the HP regen bonus.

I think it was an educated decision, personally. GJ Bomelith.

September 23, 2002 06:56 pm ET (#74)

WaterElf
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11-16-01

#50 hmmm �� *** Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) ***
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September 23, 2002 06:59 pm ET (#75)

Spyder
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148 posts
12-04-01

T.T Don quit? don was cool lol i was in DE morph from event a while back but i saved it for like a week later, and i went around joking that i was lvl 52 and every1's like "then show me bahpo morph" and don was in coi and burning weaponed the guy that said that and hes like cooooool lol =p
sry u guys r leavin, u will be missed /.\

bluesilver: amen bro lol, then again i would prob be that good too if i also ended faf like 80 times =/

vail: (or should i call u #52 >.<) plz read my whole comment b4 u try to correct me =/ i did say "elfs start with a faster swing overall" but u missed my point which was that speed doesnt carry into sosc, which nerfs elfs =/ and i know elf isnt supposed to be able to take knights ez, but they should at least be able to compete...with all the nerfs any1 but knights get u can give like a lvl 30 knight sum good equip and 0wn even a lvl 50 elf =/ especially soft ac...wut bs, they wanna make dex elfs stronger so they give them more ac, then they make their ac count less then knights...contradict (spelling? lol)themselves...but still i like that sig on lineage boards, sumthin like "selling +5dsm 20mil for knights, 10mil for others (because it gives less protection)" =p

September 23, 2002 07:06 pm ET (#76)

Spyder
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148 posts
12-04-01

mmm....my posts r long...=p
*Meaningless posts will be deleted*
hehe amer, cha useless? ya i agree my elf was rolled=p 18dex and the extra 1 point went to cha >.< once nc took out rolling i was too lazy at the time to remake my elf with the other point to con or str...im still mad nc didnt give a chance to reconfigure ur stats at the time they put that in...especially if u couldnt get the stats u wanted and u were 40+...

September 23, 2002 07:41 pm ET (#77)

dutchpower
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81 posts
10-25-01

#73 "Theoretically, every extra point in CON should increase the range of HP level up by 1."
If that is really true i would go for a few more con points if i was bomelith..i mean what else does he need?
And for every1 else that says his ac sux please shut up since he uses almost always 0 potions,why need more ac if you already hunt without using potions???

September 23, 2002 07:49 pm ET (#78)

EX-CON
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597 posts
03-19-02

Ne0 u delete ur mage? who said that?
Don has been 51 for some weeks now for sure more than 2-3.
congrats bomelith on hitting 51 go for 52 fast
ROFL i have no comment on the stats given cause iam dexelf
if i went over 50 i donno if i go con or str both give same amount of carry capacity con give faster regen and hp vlls up and str better dmg with sword since i only use sword i guess id be pick con iam water elf also.

September 23, 2002 08:04 pm ET (#79)

h2ombre
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333 posts
02-28-02

I will have +9yumi before I buy any ac that is +2 over safe. =) Dutchpower is correct. Why spend loads on ac when you dont even need it?

September 23, 2002 08:40 pm ET (#80)

TwistMeh
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146 posts
06-17-02

#78 NEO's cahr is gone, you can tell by looking it up with Linweb. It'll show some elf, and if you type NE0 (with a #0), it says it's non-existant.
I want a +9comr when I hit lvl 52. ^^
I noticed he uses a con helm.

September 23, 2002 08:44 pm ET (#81)

Na1rbPipeline
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17 posts
09-23-02

Good job! im thinkin of startin an elf too,, anyone remeber me? Na1rb,, coming back ^^

September 23, 2002 09:20 pm ET (#82)

Nitrogun
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229 posts
03-17-02

He is doing great... and if u are a hardcore player u pick ur stats carefully, so accept his dicision plz...

September 23, 2002 09:46 pm ET (#83)

slayer
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12 posts
12-12-01

Your Work gave you Adena (just a few).
Your Work gave you A Headache.

September 23, 2002 09:48 pm ET (#84)

TheCollector
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351 posts
09-07-02

amer we would have to ask mel or someone if that is true that over 18 con adds anything to rolls in hp at lvl up. i understand that a knight's 18 con and an elf's 18 con are entirely different ranges, so i see you might be hoping that 19+ elf con will finally balance out to be a knight's 18 con, but we don't know for sure if that will be a case or not (unless u know something we dont). i now understand why he did what he did, but since i have str and decrease weight on 24/7, i still believe dex to be more worth it. gj bome.

September 24, 2002 12:48 am ET (#85)

BloodLusts
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313 posts
01-26-02

If you type in a persons name and it says non existance
doesnt that mean that he just doesnt have his acc activated
what u should really do is go and make a new character and name it NEO
on DEP if it works then he did delete it, but if it doesnt then its still there.
I guess the reason why Neo Left was cause he was hated by the majority of peeps on DEP o.o
Me being one of them =P

STR, = More Dmge with sword, better carrying capacity
CON, = better carrying capacity, but then again why the hell would a con elf want a better regen rate??! it has blood to soul and Heal for crying out loud.
Its just a waste to put it into COn i tell yah =P

And I like to add that this is about CON elves... not DEX...

Another thing... The #1 in DM on DEP is a DK knight not a elf... (and yes i know u said it was #3)
however 1 time Mamamia came into DM with DE morph and was so shitty that she didnt even make it to top 10 !!

Someone tell me... DK elf or DE elf faster at hitting?!? (More AC with DK)
Someone tell me... +9rap or +9yumi better dmge?

Someone tell me on the dmge above since if i assume right then DK elf with +9rap can kick a DE elf with a +9yumi's ARSE!!
(just thought of this.. both a DK Elf and a DE Elf with Storm Walk would be a pretty funny site when they try to PK each other ^^x)

And Dont say anything about SAYHA bow cause they DONT EXIST on DEP/KEN/TEST

September 24, 2002 02:01 am ET (#86)

h2ombre
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333 posts
02-28-02

How do you know Mamamia's score w/ DE wasnt good enough for top 10?

September 24, 2002 02:14 am ET (#87)

PikaPoo
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59 posts
01-24-02

To Vail
You said why make a Dk elf or so to beat a knight, while u can just make a knight instead and fight them. o.o Yes very true why not make a Knight.
Dats wut everybody would think.
But U forgot alot of stuff. Elfs have magic, importantly cancel. Wuts a Dk knight gonna du wen he walks up to u and fight u.. Pssh u cancel his A$$ slow or wutever, weapon break him. He fights u with a dmged sword, and no dk morph.
he haste and brave.. pssh cancel again. Who cares if its cheap, as if knights dont have all the benefits alrdy? O plz, No soft ac for them, ultimate ac items, and a 1hs TSURUGI! U know how painfuly a +8 or +9 tsu is? So a con elf with str stats will be very effective. In my theory dat is why making a dk elf soo good.
and u can also cast Counter Magic.. haha good stuff.

September 24, 2002 02:33 am ET (#94)

EX-CON
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597 posts
03-19-02

ROFL i remember the mage Na1rb!!! u come back?
So ne0 actually did delete the lvl 52 mage dayem!!!
Iam dexelf if i went over 50 all points go to con so i could 1 on 1 easier
and have insane hp regen since EC u regen same even if at any weight + u get more at lvl up + i can carry more i think if ur dexelf go all con if conelf i dunno but i think his +1con for now is good maybe untill hes 52 then he might wanna go dex or str.

September 24, 2002 03:01 am ET (#95)

Na1rbPipeline
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17 posts
09-23-02

yea i should be comin back soon, hope to see you there,,, ill hopefully get my same name , hehe

September 24, 2002 03:05 am ET (#96)

marak2001
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105 posts
07-14-02

Congrats on lvl 51 and good luck on geting to 52 :)

September 24, 2002 03:12 am ET (#97)

JestRique
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134 posts
05-09-02

if you don't like his decision, keep it to yourself...

when your con elf reach 51+ and you put it into dex/str/ whatever the hell you feel like! then you can bost about how smart your decision was, how much thought you put into it -.-

from what i can see bomelith put alot of thought into his decision, so till you get that decison, shut it ~.~

September 24, 2002 03:13 am ET (#98)

JestRique
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134 posts
05-09-02

o and gj bomelith! ^^

at this rate youll be lvl 52 by christmas ^^ or maybe sooner :P

again, GJ!

September 24, 2002 05:24 am ET (#99)

TheCollector
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351 posts
09-07-02

bloodlust have u ever tried to melee with an elf with the new soft ac? remember.... 1 hit from astagio with -52 ac on elf is around 50~70 dmg! even in dk morph, with lack of knights super-brave (wafer doesnt quite cut it compared to a brave), 52+ elf would still get torn up. +9 rap might do more damage than +9 yumi (of course, when u compare a low str elf to an 18 dex with enchants elf), the elf would take waaaaay much more damage using that rap than using a bow where they might be able to win with distance in mop hunting. and if you say "well raise str at lvls, it would make rap even stronger" the same could be said for raising dex with the yumi.

September 24, 2002 07:00 am ET (#100)

souvenirs
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13 posts
09-11-02

the funny thing is that no one knows for sure if adding con to your base stats will give you more hp gain for each level up.. maybe we should ask nci the question. i'm pretty syre they know. your all just making assumptions
none of you gus have 20 base con or over.
i would like a direct answer from nci... but fat chance
i doubt i'd ever get one

September 24, 2002 08:04 am ET (#101)

h2ombre
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333 posts
02-28-02

poseidon averaged 17+hp per lvl after he added points to con. i dont think it's a coincidence. 17hp isnt even possible w/ 18con.

September 24, 2002 03:47 pm ET (#102)

TheCollector
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351 posts
09-07-02

oh another thing wasnt int bonus only for mages? i was told that at one time.

September 24, 2002 06:13 pm ET (#103)

amer
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864 posts
07-11-01

Just to add to h2ombre's point:

Not only is Poseidon getting 17+ HP average level up now, but with a base CON of 22 and my theory of 1 extra HP per level up per CON point above 15, that means that Poseidon should be getting 13 - 19 HP per level up. Which fits :)

September 24, 2002 06:41 pm ET (#104)

BloodLusts
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313 posts
01-26-02

this thread is getting too long
have to add this...
in DUELS (which are mostly pot duels at sieges) a str DK elf or a dex DE elf
would be better then a con DK/DE elf.. As i stated above i want to go to sieges and carry more pots with STr DK elf and being able to do more dmge is a key element in siege duels...
but in dep its also good for pking =)
(So i conclude STR/DEX would have been an appropriate stat to put in for a CON ELF =)

September 24, 2002 07:07 pm ET (#105)

TheCollector
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351 posts
09-07-02

well there's only 1 real question i have about that then. does that 1 extra *possible* hp per lvl up really be worthwhile, since u wont be lvl'ing up all that much in like 10 levels or 15 or whatever... is 15 hp (if ur damn lucky) extra by the time u reach lvl 65 really all that worth not putting into dex/str for faster leveling? one last time, gj bome ^^

September 24, 2002 09:37 pm ET (#106)

h2ombre
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333 posts
02-28-02

Adding CON once might not be totally worth it but adding CON for the next 5 lvls would be worth it.

September 25, 2002 01:07 am ET (#108)

Na1rbPipeline
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17 posts
09-23-02

.. thats a nice way to make friends

September 25, 2002 03:06 am ET (#112)

Ramada
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89 posts
03-18-02

Congrats Bo!!

In a nutshell, Con made perfect sense for him....more hp...yes it DOES add to your hp per level...up to 25 max...they stated in the veterans threads that there are no bonus's for over 25 stats....faster regen...saves pots..especially with b2s.....carry more arrows so you can hunt longer...all adds up to one smart decision....<grins>

Ramada, Prince - InfinityCircle (Ken)

September 25, 2002 04:29 pm ET (#113)

JestRique
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134 posts
05-09-02

oh and in case you didn't realize it when you got the screenshot waterelf, bebi is 51 in the picture, how bout updating the lvl 50 to say shes 51? ^^

September 26, 2002 12:37 am ET (#114)

Doomscythe
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03-21-02

Na1rb i remember you !!!! O.o we were in the same pledge together for a while

September 27, 2002 12:42 pm ET (#115)

Na1rbPipeline
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17 posts
09-23-02

heh yea,, hope to see you in game

March 02, 2003 06:10 pm ET (#116)

Vixon
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2 posts
11-03-02

congrats on 55 :)

March 02, 2003 09:43 pm ET (#117)

BloodLusts
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313 posts
01-26-02

GJ on 55 =)

March 02, 2003 11:14 pm ET (#118)

87
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444 posts
11-28-02

lol
looking at old interveiw
-47ac is God-like to Knightsnake

March 03, 2003 01:21 am ET (#119)

killah
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77 posts
09-08-02

u know how she asked for a better 40+ morph for elves...well no other class has a good 40+ morph...so y should elves get one?...knights use spar which is...lvl 10+ morph? so does prince and mages use skel...

March 03, 2003 09:59 pm ET (#120)

87
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444 posts
11-28-02

spart and skele swing/run faster than unpoly....
orc scout is slowwwwwwwwwww

March 04, 2003 01:56 pm ET (#121)

Summuner
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6 posts
11-10-02

so you finally came out and told them ^^

March 04, 2003 09:47 pm ET (#122)

ruffarrows
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23 posts
03-11-03

they need new elf poly other than orc scout!

March 04, 2003 11:15 pm ET (#123)

87
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444 posts
11-28-02

marksman poly, or faster fire archer...

March 05, 2003 06:51 pm ET (#124)

TeronElf
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185 posts
09-21-02

mages get lvl 45+ morph
elfs get 2 godly morphs at lvl 52, plus at lvl 50 u get the godly nature's blessing spell, unless you prefer -4 more ac, more dmg to bow or swords, which dosen't compare to almost NO POTS, free heal, n-b,b2s,delay 7sec (from b2s)

GJ Bomelith on 55!
Do other ppl still say you're 52? o.o

March 05, 2003 07:08 pm ET (#125)

Mansa
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10 posts
10-10-02

i wonder if he has full dex/ac bonus now? with lvl 55, it wouldnt surprise me or perhaps he went for strength...

July 03, 2003 01:59 pm ET (#126)

ZRiPTiDEZ
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60 posts
11-13-01

i wonder what level he is now ? o.o

July 10, 2003 04:59 pm ET (#127)

droidbuilder
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10-11-02

57

July 13, 2003 07:04 pm ET (#128)

Mansa
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10-10-02

59

August 13, 2003 07:08 am ET (#129)

tony
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12-02-02

6x.....

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