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October 25, 2002 08:33 pm ET - research by NC - Austin

10/25 - US Test Publish Announcement

The following has been published to the US Test Server on October 25:

Some items are now non-transferrable. These are Crystal Ball of Necromancer, Basilisk's Horn, and Drake's Claw.
The Succubus Queen’s abilities have been improved slightly, causing her to inflict more damage.
Elemental Crystal drop rates have been reduced.
Programming issues with several monster's attacks has been corrected. This will raise the difficulty of some boss-level monsters.
Dragon ranged attacks have been improved.

October 25, 2002 08:35 pm ET (#1)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Uhh..... increased difficulty of bosses AGAIN?
Range of dragons..... fafy bubble already kills like 1 and a half screen.
Succ queen improved damage but not drops? Hahahahaha her 60 adena drops really help.

October 25, 2002 08:37 pm ET (#2)

JestRique
Loyal Fan
134 posts
05-09-02

i dont understadn why... you guys always make the stpid boss's harder?! ok ok, some bosses are fine with me... but leave the dragins how they are damnit! no1 can kill them as it is! why make them even worse?! -.-

*sigh* nc = babo of all babos

October 25, 2002 08:39 pm ET (#3)

EX-CON
Loyal Fan
597 posts
03-19-02

NC plan: Make all of us die and with the crappy drops why make bosses and succqueen harder so i can waste more pots and get a manapot?

October 25, 2002 08:46 pm ET (#4)

Macrossf1
Loyal Fan
49 posts
04-20-02

They enhance the strength of the dragons further, and before you know it they allow dragons to leave their lairs and run amok in towns.

October 25, 2002 08:49 pm ET (#5)

Kurae
Loyal Fan
1 posts
10-13-02

No exactly, NC plan is to make you play a lot of time to the point where you can get strong enough to kill any boss even if it drops crap, the thing is that you will never get strong enough since they will be making bosses harder and harder just like now.

October 25, 2002 08:50 pm ET (#6)

Onlyone
Loyal Fan
247 posts
02-07-02

LOL macrossf1 True ;)

October 25, 2002 08:54 pm ET (#7)

Firmus
Loyal Fan
21 posts
10-12-02

Apparently the dragons ranged attacks really sucked because they were being killed so easily from far away. Now it'll be necessary to stand really, really, really far away to kill them. Mmmm...I guess logic isn't something highly regarded at NC.

October 25, 2002 08:56 pm ET (#8)

theassman
Loyal Fan
21 posts
10-17-02

wow...now the bosses get harded! oh well

October 25, 2002 08:58 pm ET (#9)

wickedliquids
Loyal Fan
32 posts
10-11-02

Have you thought about WHY they're making them harder? Look at the first update - Cray's quest is coming back - maybe later this year or next. Sayha's bow is coming - sooner or later. So think about it! Yeah, the DS is two handed so there is some loss in AC - but also take a look at the upper level ppls - there are some that are getting pretty strong and thinking of ways to improve themselves - you really didn't think Valakas can be taken 1 on 1, now do you? They're making it harder because as ppls get stronger, somebody - SOMEBODY - is going to get the bright idea that if you have the right group of level 50+ ppls, Fafuron and Valakas are GOING DOWN!

October 25, 2002 08:59 pm ET (#10)

bash023
Loyal Fan
5 posts
09-06-02

this game is hard enough, the other day I was walking throught Girin and the DUCK attacked me out of nowhere. This duck was MAD. I had to tel away to keep from dying!!!

LOL

October 25, 2002 09:08 pm ET (#11)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

Hm i think i am gonna go on a dragon hunt soon regardless in how strong htey are i dont care about my lvl 47 elf anymore so i can d lvl him all i want

October 25, 2002 09:10 pm ET (#12)

Substance
Loyal Fan
186 posts
09-25-02

OMG.....i threw away all my crystals..o.o

October 25, 2002 09:14 pm ET (#13)

EX-CON
Loyal Fan
597 posts
03-19-02

dayem ive seen it around too near my pledge house the cow begged to come in we though it was to get our stuff from ground then we saw the duck and we yelled on pledge chat all come crazy duck attacking the fort we all came and it end took 20 mins and alot of us had to go to pot store to get clears,etc and we finally ended it dropped +10rap,+10tsu,+10rap,+10sayhabow,+10sof/som and Beak of Duck which can be traded to Orim for either +0DS or Ring of sayha which allows u to c all coi and when ur in coi u cant be detected by anyone or seen by anything mop/boss/dragon great isnt it ^^ also GM cant bann u ROFL

October 25, 2002 09:38 pm ET (#14)

Dlirk
LC Reporter
75 posts
01-06-02

Now I remember Faf killing em from full hp (680hp) before I got to him. And I couldn't even get close to antharas without dying 3 times... So why is there away attack better? so no one can get next to them? They need to do more than 680 damage?

October 25, 2002 09:58 pm ET (#15)

YuGi
Loyal Fan
159 posts
02-19-02

T_T~~~~succubus queen stronger now...T_T

October 25, 2002 10:05 pm ET (#16)

Shaked
Loyal Fan
5 posts
10-25-02

wickedliquids, u say:"SOMEBODY - is going to get the bright idea that if you have the right group of level 50+ ppls, Fafuron and Valakas are GOING DOWN! "

well i dont think there is one lvl 50 guy on US servers that will risk even 10% of his exp for such a thing(and i can understand them). and trust me, they will die more then once in such hunt.

October 25, 2002 10:09 pm ET (#17)

Blanka
Loyal Fan
26 posts
09-18-02

i hate nc with a passion

its not just this update but look at the bosses about a year ago. 2-3 ppl could have ended bapho. one person if they were really strong. But now u need a PLATOON of ppl

u needed an army of ppl for kill the dragons. but now u need the whole server!
baah!!

October 25, 2002 10:23 pm ET (#18)

New
Loyal Fan
28 posts
10-14-02

#9 DS sucks~ is only good for Drakes~

October 25, 2002 10:33 pm ET (#19)

TitusX
Loyal Fan
9 posts
06-12-02

how they gonna beef the dragons again aint like test could end them yet anyways nci this is why ppl quit cause you make mops like god

October 25, 2002 10:34 pm ET (#20)

GBMage
Loyal Fan
21 posts
10-22-02

Amer any way you can get more info on the reason behind these changes ? A lot of times they change things without much, if any explanation at all. I think more ppl would be more accepting of changes/updates (not all of them mind u)

Also wanted to add, succ queen attack raised "slighty" we've heard that word pushed around before. If they want group hunts in dvc 6 they made the layout of those caves all wrong, there's not enough room, i need room to move, closterphobic ^^

October 25, 2002 11:37 pm ET (#21)

gloenk
Loyal Fan
16 posts
10-13-02

ya..like wtf's going...there was a faf hunt on kent about 2 weeks ago and we had 30+ 40+ players and we all died at least 3x...now they want to make they bossess harder?? good thing i quit :s

October 25, 2002 11:45 pm ET (#22)

winipcfg1
Loyal Fan
10 posts
09-30-02

....no comment.....

October 26, 2002 12:18 am ET (#23)

Holliday
Loyal Fan
56 posts
11-17-01

they're probably only talking about stupid caspa --;..

October 26, 2002 02:49 am ET (#24)

JestRique
Loyal Fan
134 posts
05-09-02

wickedliquids... im not even gonna bother to fight with you, ill let everyone else do it.

all i need to say is your an idiot if you think sayha and ds will make even the slightest bit of difference.

-done

October 26, 2002 03:03 am ET (#25)

Swarez
Loyal Fan
8 posts
09-11-02

Amer maybe you could have a small link that told us what was published to korean servers and what we haven't got yet. I could of sworn a few more things where published to there servers before these updates that are coming to us now. I'm just curious to know what they have and what we dont / do have.

October 26, 2002 03:45 am ET (#26)

Kyrrel
Loyal Fan
36 posts
10-13-02

Make the best of every situation.
Dragons Ranged attacks improved? oh well Counter-magic should hurt them for more then :)
Attack bugs - some Bosses may be getting stronger, but that means less people will want to hunt it. IE you and your crew get more/better drops.
Cray's test looks like its coming back
Succ queen...well thats a hard one to correct even for me :)
Kyrrel

October 26, 2002 04:04 am ET (#27)

Tamizhan
Loyal Fan
6 posts
10-26-02

Scorpians Poison You on Test Now
was this already updated ~_~?
or is it just updated with this Update That we had today

October 26, 2002 04:13 am ET (#28)

-Orim-
Loyal Fan
99 posts
09-15-02

great now i need another 50 ppl to fight caspa

October 26, 2002 04:15 am ET (#29)

Grun
Loyal Fan
15 posts
09-24-02

why???? why nc whyyyyy!!!!!! are you trying to make the dragons gods or summat?? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz stop making bosses harder

October 26, 2002 05:38 am ET (#30)

Etikilam
Loyal Fan
381 posts
02-12-02

according to the fiction... the dragons are about as strong as the gods. Why do you think eva sealed fafurion away instead of simply destroying him?

October 26, 2002 05:42 am ET (#31)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

orim shouldnt u be hiding from caspa on mlc 7f? o.o*

yay more death and people quitting. or maybe less people hunting bosses. <shrug> i told my friends one day the demon had spawned, and they were like "nah screw that drops arent worth it" ~~

well the bapho isnt that hard. me (elf) and 4 knights ended it without any trouble whatsoever, though we really did feel lucky to get an almighty bdai from it. yah~

October 26, 2002 06:25 am ET (#32)

-Orim-
Loyal Fan
99 posts
09-15-02

i remember when i used to 1 on 1 bapho only drinking oranges -.-;
now oranges too slow and need a few clears going 5 on 1

October 26, 2002 06:34 am ET (#33)

2x2
Loyal Fan
104 posts
04-19-02

selling counter magic scrolls 100k each :P
great for boss hunts, yeah thats so bad, bosses get harder that just means u can't hop from dk to drake to caspa to bapho and in the end to beleth and start the cycle over again, ow yeah and for the koffie break you take down demon, it just means u need more ppl to kill a boss so not only a few ppl get richer and richer but other perhaps also

hehe, why care about making succubus queen harder? hardly anyone hunts them

and they improved dragons ranged attack is cuz of counter magic i think

October 26, 2002 09:05 am ET (#34)

Linny
Loyal Fan
166 posts
05-01-02

korean test server got this update too, why don'twe get FI too so??

October 26, 2002 11:46 am ET (#35)

Pepper
Loyal Fan
135 posts
02-11-02

Why make succubus queens harder? So NO one hunts them.
Seriously don't see the sense in hunting succubus...yea it's worth hunting IF you are lucky...otherwise, most hunts in the lower levels of DVC are just a waste of money, cus you can barely get them back from the mops.
And silly ppl...dragons are for look...lol, NC does not want them to be killed at all...don't you get it? o.o

October 26, 2002 12:28 pm ET (#36)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

I asked something to support:

Question Reference #021026-000006

Customer (Rubén González) 10/26/2002 05:12 AM
"-The Succubus Queen’s abilities have been improved slightly, causing her to inflict more damage.
-Programming issues with several monster’s attacks has been corrected. This will raise the difficulty of some boss-level monsters.
-Dragon ranged attacks have been improved."

will the drops be increased in those monsters?

Response (Mitch) 10/26/2002 07:13 AM
All available information on the update is included on our website. To the best of my knowledge the drops for these monsters were not increased.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please let us know and we will get back to you as quickly as possible.

October 26, 2002 01:59 pm ET (#37)

Tamizhan
Loyal Fan
6 posts
10-26-02

TEST 4 EVA >_<!
succs still dont hurt ~_~
i guess its cause i drink oranges as if they were reds lol o.o;;
Money is not an issue on test ;)
Theoreticly Succs should be like mops taht u need clears for =)
they drop the best item in the game... ROTC o.o
if that btele update comes ~_~ lol ROTC SKY ROCKET ^>^
i still havnt gotten a ROTC yet T_T
ohwell ... soon soon @_@

~DeathRoW~

October 26, 2002 02:03 pm ET (#38)

NeoCross
Loyal Fan
139 posts
03-20-02

because there "Fing" retards

October 26, 2002 03:31 pm ET (#39)

Lain
Loyal Fan
1 posts
10-26-02

I went to kill Antharas -oh well, to try- we was 20 +45 knights, 15 mages and 3 or 4 elfs. It was impossible, we carry more than 250 clears condensed each, and we down there(each knight) about 20 times...We waste about 2000 res scrolls...and without count braves, hastes...so we only obtain he hide on floor...Nc made hard dragons, made pot delay, made res delay...I Dlvl 3 levels -.-;;;, waste a lot of pots, becouse we thought, that was hard to kill, but not impossible....Now, i ask, if NC want the dragons be impossible to kill, why are them at the game????...I really hate the game more and more, but no for the GAME, i hate becouse NC Austin is pawned on obtain that ppl quit...And this is just what Nc gets...I dont find another explanation...

(sorry for my english)

October 26, 2002 05:12 pm ET (#40)

Wilhelm
Loyal Fan
88 posts
07-02-02

Making Cray's Quest items non-transferable has no effect non Test, since they don't fall now so there aren't any on Test after the wipe. This is fair warning to high level knights on Ken and Dep to acquire all three items while they are still transferable there in order to be ready for the resumption of Cray's Quest.

The dragon changes are really silly here on US Servers, where we can't kill the dragons anyway. It remains to be seen what other bosses are now almost unkillable. This game realy needs some high level non-boss mops in the forties to give high level characters something to hunt. As it stands now a level 48+ character either hunts normal mops for minimal exp or hunts for the either hard to find or nearly unkillable bosses. Yes, some bosses like Ifrit are reasonably easy to kill but finding them is a matter of chance or, like the Drakes, they are heavily camped. We need some normal high-level mops that reguarly respawn. That is what FI is supposed to provide. Bring it on!

October 26, 2002 05:17 pm ET (#41)

Alexei
Loyal Fan
34 posts
09-11-02

Iron Golem and Stone Golem are now aggressive on Test...
I wasnt in poly tho so not sure if that matters...
I will check Ice Golem and Lava Golem next but I think Lava Golem is off because some would attack on sight and some wouldnt...
~^

October 26, 2002 05:21 pm ET (#42)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

I can see a reason behind this. Since NCAustin follows NCSeoul on the updates, they haven't taken in the consideration of the amount of people there compared to korea. They say they 'test' the effects but 1 week later, it's put onto live servers. What kind of 'testing' is that when 2xx people just use the server as a 'Live server with better drops and wipes periodically'. All these updates are thoroughly tested on korean servers where countless number of people test these for balance issues and suits their need but it doesn't mean it applies here. My acc is dying in 3 weeks and I don't think I'll renew with the lack of effort to 'test' these completely insane updates.

October 26, 2002 07:18 pm ET (#43)

fury
Loyal Fan
7 posts
02-24-02

ah more ridiculous changes...
at least they made some announced changes, unlike last week where they said reset, but they also changed some minor things like mop drop and frequency in various areas...
its done every week, u just don't notice it... just because its called "random" doesn't exactly mean its totally random... -.-

*claps for NC*
retardation is genetic... people don't choose to be stupid...

October 26, 2002 08:37 pm ET (#44)

UNIVERSAL
Loyal Fan
109 posts
10-05-02

o.o

October 27, 2002 01:29 am ET (#45)

natlswim
Loyal Fan
148 posts
04-10-02

guys
we gotta end dragons before this comes to live servers

October 27, 2002 01:40 am ET (#46)

NoLuCK
Loyal Fan
76 posts
03-21-02

"Making Cray's Quest items non-transferable has no effect non Test, since they don't fall now so there aren't any on Test after the wipe."

You can still get these items.. Just might take you a while :)

October 27, 2002 01:03 am ET (#47)

OsirisX
Loyal Fan
18 posts
02-14-02

why the hell do the skeletons in the picture with the sorcoress at the top right side of this page have blue and white shoes. the sorceress has sandles, i understand that, but skeletons dont wear shoes, that's why i chose not to play lineage

October 27, 2002 01:06 am ET (#48)

XCollicoX
Loyal Fan
131 posts
04-20-02

Well...I know on test before wipe we could kill valakas easier than faf cause val's metior strike really sucked. Well I can say it sucked compared to faf's bubbles. Vals metior strike took half HP off of a lv40 dex elf. And all the knights could hit val. Even pump clears I only saw a couple people die.

October 27, 2002 01:06 am ET (#49)

XCollicoX
Loyal Fan
131 posts
04-20-02

Well...I know on test before wipe we could kill valakas easier than faf cause val's metior strike really sucked. Well I can say it sucked compared to faf's bubbles. Vals metior strike took half HP off of a lv40 dex elf. And all the knights could hit val. Even pump clears I only saw a couple people die.

October 27, 2002 03:13 am ET (#50)

h2ombre
Loyal Fan
333 posts
02-28-02

cray's items drop on test. i got drake claw from the first drake i killed, second day of test.

October 27, 2002 12:07 pm ET (#51)

Hurt
Loyal Fan
30 posts
10-11-02

this means we will be having a cray's test soon?

October 27, 2002 12:10 pm ET (#52)

Hurt
Loyal Fan
30 posts
10-11-02

i really dun get it... y cant US Server just follows our own server's way of changing things sometimes? y do we always have to follow wat Korean Server changes then we follow wat they do?

October 27, 2002 06:37 pm ET (#53)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

because it's nc-korea that's funding the nc-austin here...
therefore...we'll have to play by their rules...or get the funding cut

funding cut = cut costs = cut server + isp + nc staff + business = no more lin in usa - -;

oh yea..if i store all the quest items into storage...is it transferable to ANY of my characters then? o.o

what's the point of hunt succ queen if u not lucky?...wasting pots that's why! now they want us to waste more on them....

dragons...antharas is impossible to kill...since it hide when low hp +_+..
faf...killable..if u dont get killed by that bubble attack...
val...isn't it removed on live servers? ...test im not sure...since my lv1 newb cant get to it without being sniped by those fire archers..

October 28, 2002 01:30 am ET (#54)

Hurt
Loyal Fan
30 posts
10-11-02

ic...

October 28, 2002 04:46 pm ET (#55)

Wilhelm
Loyal Fan
88 posts
07-02-02

One of the mop attacks they fixed was the poison attack by giant scorpions. They were supposed to inject poison but this wasn;t happening. As of the new publish scorpions now do inject poison, at least on Test. I was hunting Ogres in Dragon Valley and was poisoned several times by scorps. Basilisk hunters are now warned to bring plenty of twigs or Cure Poison pots.

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