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December 25, 2002 11:34 pm ET - research by Yeildarb
NASH: Pledge Spotlight (Dep)

Nash is a large and ever-growing group of pledges on Depardieu. The pledges all followed the leader of Legolas01. After his departure, the members knew they couldn't let the pledge go to waste. A few members started building the pledge back up, and in about 9 short months, NashEternal (led by MissKat), NeoNash (led by Injektilo), NashBlood (led by MinisterD), HandOfNash (led by MurkBane), and the new BlazeOfNash (led by SHINEv) were born. This might seem like a lot of subpledges, but in fact they're not. These 5 pledges are all separte pledges that work together as one pledge. No pledge is lower than the other. That follows their creed - no one person is less than the other. People are marked by loyalty, not by level.

Now for the history part of the story; You might recall a little war between the NASH pledge and FCA. They came upon even terms after awhile, and NASH refers to them as "practice." FCA taught them what it is to have a full enemy, and where they needed to improve. They also learned what not to become as a pledge.

All of the leaders of the pledges have other chars that they play that are in their pledge.

They believe that LoA is alright, but wouldn't want to move there. They don't want to give up their chars on Dep. They agree, too, that it would be fine if it were to come to Dep.

NASH has been doing some castle searching, but above sieging, their main goal is to take down a dragon. FI should give them the practice they need, they say.

Above all, they are a TEAM. They love their characters, love their pledges, and love the game. They've been through disbans, fueds, and soon even perhaps a dragon. Still, they hold what they believe dear; communication between member and leader in pledges. They listen to their members, and their members listen to them. They wish to change Dep somehow for the better, even if it is for a fleeting moment.

If you are interested, their website is NashAlliance.com. If you are loyal, fun, and don't believe in griefing, then I'd say anywhere in the whole of the giant pledge NASH would be a good place to go.

December 25, 2002 11:41 pm ET (#1)
redpig
Loyal Fan

283 posts
10-15-02

cool~oO.Oo

December 26, 2002 12:11 am ET (#2)
Dubby
Loyal Fan

31 posts
03-27-02

yup sounds pretty cool to me

December 26, 2002 12:35 am ET (#3)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

hmmm...i cant say i like nash...ive ended many of them because the ones ive come across are rude. i wonder if shin0bi has gotten all the %s e lost back yet. but gj on the spotlight

December 26, 2002 02:46 am ET (#4)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

good spotlight, wtg nash.....no one mentioned jadenash though :)

December 26, 2002 05:39 am ET (#5)
paraqueen
Loyal Fan

152 posts
10-29-02

gj nash~

December 26, 2002 07:34 am ET (#6)
Enhance
Loyal Fan

6 posts
12-23-02

GJ nash....congrats on getting the OT castle as well even though u needed help from BBKnights and KUSANG :) vs 1 elf and 1 princess i heard....well..congrats
anyways

December 26, 2002 09:55 am ET (#7)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

LoL the only Nash i know of is MaximusD cause hes always selling stuff o.o~

December 26, 2002 10:49 am ET (#8)
cristha02
Loyal Fan

141 posts
03-31-02

zzzz i hate nash :D
but great job zzz

December 26, 2002 10:55 am ET (#9)
TaosZ
Loyal Fan

200 posts
10-14-02

Huck i just joined that pledge :(

December 26, 2002 01:57 pm ET (#11)
Mailan
Loyal Fan

79 posts
10-13-02

... maybe its some kinda misunderstanding, but in the article you say all memebers are equal. You also say members are ranked by their loyalty, not their level (near the end of the same paragraph). And once again, on your web site, you *rank* your members by their levels... Three contradictory statements, all contradicting each other... LoL, I've never run into a situation like this and I just wondered what you had to say about it...


Maybe you were just using the biggest shovel you could find for the interview so you guys didnt look so bad...

December 26, 2002 02:13 pm ET (#12)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

there is rank, tho every member is looked upon with equal value. the rank system youre allowed to see just shows the LVL requirements.. we have lvl 48 players who are lower in ranks than some lvl 45 or 46s. just because a requirement is made it doesnt mean you're moved up. hence, based on time spent and loyalty. on that same note, someone who has been in the pledge for 9 months nd is lvl 35 wouldn't have a higher rank thank a lvl 40 who's been in for 6 months.. the time spent in the pledge weighs evenly and accurately with lvl.. it's a good balance. a lvl 48 is valued no more than a lv 40.. tho we may miss em in a fight or seige ;)
jadeNASH took OT with help, yes.. and a lot of good high lvl help. a lot of the players are brand spanking new, and is the bestplae to practice, right? especially when following the lead of more experienced players.. that's how you get good ^^ hail nash ^^

December 26, 2002 02:32 pm ET (#13)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

Hail Nash! I joined NASH a couple months ago and this has honestly been the best time for me playing lineage in over a year. Everyone is helpful. When LOA first came out I wanted to hop on the bandwagon too, but like the article says I didn't wanna leave NASH.Way to go guys on the Spotlight

Selke

December 26, 2002 02:41 pm ET (#14)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Hail!!

Cool write-up from an elf who hasn't always smiled when NASH was around. ^^

There's always a bad egg or two, and we've had ours. But those eggs have cracked under our own blades and staves more than anyone else's. Dun misinterpret our openess as weakness. Any1 joins and steals, be prepared to be ended mercilessly. Just ask....

Dancing with the big boys on Dep has been fun, rewarding ^&^ and we've learned a lot. We do have a great time. Thanks LC for letting us share in the limelight.

December 26, 2002 03:26 pm ET (#15)
Elric
Loyal Fan

337 posts
10-29-02

o.o' they are lots and lots and lots o.o''''

December 26, 2002 04:33 pm ET (#16)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

I remember when NASH first started
was around the time when I was a newbie

no offense to NASH
but I think their emblem is really ugly

otherwise
the ppl r cool
I like the idea of ranking as I seen in member's titles

December 26, 2002 05:01 pm ET (#17)
Yeildarb
Loyal Fan

179 posts
01-19-02

Re; Mailan [#11]

They all have an equal chance. How much loyalty the put into the pledge is how they are measured. No boundaries are made to limit the honor one can put into their pledge.

Hope that helps you understand.

December 26, 2002 05:35 pm ET (#18)
EcKs
Loyal Fan

154 posts
04-17-02

very nice website and pledge(s)

December 26, 2002 05:49 pm ET (#19)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

enhance: bbknights, kusang, and a few other 'high' sol/fl knights/elves were at ot, I still took it 3x.. but lost it in the end (time) :)

good work todda, getting better.

December 26, 2002 07:38 pm ET (#20)
Shin0bi
Loyal Fan

17 posts
12-26-02

OnlyM3, who are u?

don't tell me you're the guy who ended me while I frozed out of lag --"
and if you're kill4fun, I'm still trying to end u anyway

December 26, 2002 09:31 pm ET (#21)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

0.o
The emblems rocks!! Simple, yet distinctive.

Liked it better see-thru tho. ^&^

December 26, 2002 11:58 pm ET (#22)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

As you see we are having a new emblem contest anyway

December 27, 2002 12:25 am ET (#23)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

Yes shan0bi it is me. i like how you said "trying" cuase that is all you are gonna be able to do.and plz dont give me that old ":i was lag frozen" becuase u were trying to run away and were hitting pots till the end .GL ill be waiting for another one of your attempts in FV ^^

December 27, 2002 02:12 am ET (#24)
Enhance
Loyal Fan

6 posts
12-23-02

K1LL4FUN is that old fart in the pic? get a life uncle -.-

December 27, 2002 03:14 am ET (#25)
Mailan
Loyal Fan

79 posts
10-13-02

Yieldarb, I guess I kinda realize what they really meant, but I just wanted to see what they had to say about it. There were three statements, all in contradiction to each other, and I found it quite odd... no offense meant, but you might want to be a bit more careful with your words... (the leader of nash, that is)

December 27, 2002 04:03 am ET (#26)
Sevenblade
Loyal Fan

157 posts
02-26-02

I can give advice for the comming dragon hunt: Get the most people you ever seen, use mb and high ac... Use lots of pots... and rush it.. hehe

December 27, 2002 05:20 am ET (#27)
Shin0bi
Loyal Fan

17 posts
12-26-02

no, kill4fun

the frozen death is a diff one

the time when u ended me was because I ran out of pots but didn't realise it until it was too late.

u really think 2 lvl48 elves can end me?
that's a pretty stupid thought

December 27, 2002 06:13 am ET (#28)
Lillianrill
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-27-02

HAIL NASH!!

Been a member since I was a wee lil n00b (and some still think of me as a n00b), but I've had a great time, and the members are great.

Look forward to becoming UberElf with the help/support of a great pledge.

December 27, 2002 02:27 pm ET (#29)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

I have no problem with most of NASH. I have tried to overlook most of their insults and transgressions. However, a few loudmouth wannabe-tough guys run their mouth and get them into trouble.

FCA annihilated NASH a few months back, in response to some disparaging remarks on their webpage (after one of them got PK'd, they called for war on their webpage, which was news to us, so we obliged). After dozens and dozens of their deaths, they changed their website and we granted them a no hit arrangement, true to our word.

Now they've got a few higher levels and they think they're hot shit, and are acting up again, hitting our members and posting tough talk on their website. They call their countless deaths to us 'practice'? lol they'd be out of business if we kept killing them at the rate we were going. Apparently they don't remember their vows from not long ago. Nor do they remember the mercy we showed them when they were newbs. It would be wise for them to remember. Insulting us and trying to incite us is no way to show respect or thanks for our leniency in the past.

Your words and actions will be rewarded in kind. The blood of your members will be the result of your lying and website bravado. Anyone bearing your emblem will end. CHANGE your website and cease the hitting of our people (chao or not) or we will annihilate you on sight. All of you. Again. And this time, I shall show no mercy.

-Biz

I will not check this thread again. I will check your website once on Sunday to confirm the changes were made.

December 27, 2002 02:41 pm ET (#30)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

Actually I heard about this no hit arrangement. I heard of it in result to sharparrows pking in SWL. When I asked him about that truce between NASH and FCA, he said he had no idea. I'm not saying anything negative towards FCA. I'm just showing some things have to change on your end as well.

December 27, 2002 02:45 pm ET (#31)
redpig
Loyal Fan

283 posts
10-15-02

such strong words@.@
"annihilate"

*we can bitch and brag all we want,but when others do to us, we will annihilate them.*

o.o;;;

December 27, 2002 03:16 pm ET (#32)
SEVERN
Loyal Fan

2 posts
10-18-02

Biz,

Of course you'll be checking this thread again.

We didn't have a website months ago. Our website is only a month or so old. And you didn't annihilate us. We killed and venzed as many as you did. We haven't been attacking any of your members recently, but from what I hear you attacked one of ours in the desert 6:1 after we had already agreed on peaceful settlement.

You didn't "grant us" any peace arrangement. We both agreed on it.

Stop with the threats and if you don't like our website then don't come to it - it wasn;t made for you it's for our members. Were not going to bow to any pressure from you because you don't like it. Not so long ago you posted pictures of our members dead and mocked them so consider it a fair exchange.

If you want to make any concessions at all, remove all the racist garbage on YOUR website bad mouthing Korean people.

December 27, 2002 03:36 pm ET (#33)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

oo i ended that shin0bi guy to one time cause he hit my friend in fv and then i went to unchao in owl and he was there and o well die 2 times best drop 10 sosc i got 55 now weee~

pledge is cool never had any beef with them cept that shin0bi guy.

and they said u cant end shinobi

December 27, 2002 03:41 pm ET (#34)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

0.o
"Me thinks the lady doth protest too much."
*
I must have missed the be-nice-to-NASH-noobs period. First sting I felt was from Sharp, and I've given him his due credit--at 50 and before--he's earned it the hard way.
*
Actually, Biz, as NASH has grown in this game, we've gained a certain respect for most of FCA. Maybe we're not bu-ral-chin-gu (bosom buddies), but some respect. And maybe we've earned just a little back. Maybe not. But your diatribe above shows that you haven't grown at all. Your still a bitter leader of a pledge that has image problems. And you've certainly not helped yourself there with this missive.
*
NASH has learned that "professional pks" exist and we deal with them as we can. As you deal with pks from other pledges. But to get all worked up about "our" site, "our" 10 minutes of fame in LC Spotlight, and "our" fun with the game--you come off as a two-bit loser with nothing better to do than hurl curses and insults in a game that is generally a real kick in the pants. We all would have expected more from you.
*
I realize this makes me a marked mage, but we are a little stronger, and it won't be as easy to pick on us this time....unless to stick to the noobs. =)
See ya round, Biz ^&^ Unless of course you dun read this. keke

December 27, 2002 03:47 pm ET (#35)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

LOL no enhance that isnt me. That is a picture that my brother posted on here as me for some reason.that picture accually is one of my uncles. IM 16 - -

December 27, 2002 03:53 pm ET (#36)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

Ex-con u are drame right, keke it was me and u that ended him. What did he mean by "u accualy think two lvl 48 elfs can end me..well we did.thanks for the sosc by the way

December 27, 2002 04:08 pm ET (#37)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

Annihalate, Biz? You must not have been around all the time.

Since th last war, which I thinks was aptly fought on both sides, we have grown. There's a reaon for that. Not to be offensive, but you have shrunk.. and there's a reason for that, too. Recognize.

If you have a problem, bring it in-game.. you lead FCA. i respect many of them now, but if yur bidding is to piss on people's parades (we didn't do this during your spotlight at the peak of our war), then back your words up. This recent skirmish was started by FCA in the wl's and at the drakes. Want SS's? You love those.

Go hunting on your prince and get a castle. Then you may use the word "annihalation."

December 27, 2002 04:19 pm ET (#38)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Biz:

Remember Nash is different from NATAS. They had a website that stated war between us and them and they took it down.

Preebs:

A little history for ya. The "no hit" agreement WAS granted to Nash after Aarthin sent us an apology letter. This was after the Heine event where much of the animosity started (some a little before) because of Aarthin's first letter to FCA. After this "no hit" was granted to Nash (after numerous deaths on their side) we have not hit them unless they have hit us. Despite what some Nash members may tell you.

SEVERN:

Actually, your members did attack one of ours and thats what started up things again. Additionally, your page showing Eolee as dead is from around the Heine event (I remember his title back then) yet you portray it as a recent event that was after the "templar incident". A little lie to make yourselves look better perhaps ?? As far as mocking Nash all we have done was put SS of them dead (from when we were fighting) and put a little caption below it, and praised the members who ended them. You could've done the same without any bad feelings from us (its part of the game and when you win you can post pics) but you had to badmouth us and devote a whole page to doing so.

A few more lies on your website:

1.) You stated [about Sharp] "He then had to spend many a late night getting those experience points back" --> Well Sharp was in Bapho morph the next day so please tell me how many "late nights" that is ... LOL ...

2.) You list a dead prince (like you killed an FCA prince) with the FCA emblem and list him as FCA. A quick check on LinWeb will reveal he is the prince of Dragonkillaz pledge which is no way related to FCA.

So, if you're going to lie about things re: FCA how will anyone beleive you and how can you expect us to not point it out ?? Neo was doing just that and you posted his letter to you.

You can change the site or not, its up to you.

BTW - we all hunt where we please just like any other pledge. There is nowhere in Aden that I have not been able to hunt.


SeoulSurvivor:

Your 10 minutes of fame could've been done without trashing any other pledge. You'll notice that when Biz was interviewed he was respectful of other pledges. You singled us out and referred to us as "practice". That was immature. BTW- you had gained some respect from us as you grew. However, your recent actions make it clear that you do not respect us. And while I was one of the ones who said to grant you guys a "no hit" when Aarthin sent the apology letter, I cannot in good conscience do so now.

December 27, 2002 04:25 pm ET (#39)
HeavenMage
Loyal Fan

53 posts
06-15-02

THATS TRUEEE maximusd for all ur item needs!!! hes my favorite sellER!!!! well congrats nash

December 27, 2002 04:28 pm ET (#40)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Inject:

BTW- we still have a full main pledge and a sister pledge. The two sister pledges that were not full were merged so we still have roughly the same amount of people we did before. Yes you have grown. Congratulations !! And by all means please send the SS to Biz. You should've done that from the beginning since you think you are correct (the fact that you send them now wil lprove nothing since "hitting" has been done back and forth sicne you started). However, it was you who started hitting us. And BTW - we didn't trash you or any other pledge in our spotlight (we were respectful of other pledges). Your reference to us as "practice" is an insult and when taken in context of your page on your website we can only determine that it was a deliberate one.

Its sad, b/c we actually could be working together since I know you guys have no love for some members of the alliance. But when you guys pull this stuff, what do you expect to happen ??

December 27, 2002 04:28 pm ET (#41)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

respect means nothing

friends r friends
enemies r enemies
allies r allies

u may respect
but do something stupid, they assume u did it on purpose
therefore
war is declared

what is the truth?
we see both sides, what to believe?
all part of the game

all ends in one blood bath
in the game that is...

December 27, 2002 04:31 pm ET (#42)
SEVERN
Loyal Fan

2 posts
10-18-02

Our website has our response...

December 27, 2002 04:52 pm ET (#43)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

SEVERN:

Your call ... I think it was a bad move on your part, but oh well. You could've at least been respectful on your website and your spotlight but alas you have not been. As for heat on us thats funny. Sharp still levelled to 50 and our guys are still levelling and doing things as usual [and still having loads of fun in the process]. And your reference to helping alliance members in battle is proof positive you haven't honored the "no hit". BTW- the "on parole" part was to say to our members that they are not to be hit. This started b/c your members attacked us [and we responded] and then you put up a page trashing us on your website (something we never did to you). Your content for your website is your own that is true. However thsi all could've been handled better by Nash. And its almost too late now.

December 27, 2002 06:07 pm ET (#44)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

It's awfully sad Typhoon...
Me, my pledge, and most of your members get along wonderfully. The people at the top, however, are bombastic mongers it seems.

War happened the first time when NASH got pked SIX times.. thats when the letter was sent, when MULTIPLE nash was being targeted. Get it thru your head.. why do you use that letter as a scapegoat when multiple FCA were 5:1 NASH *BEFORE* the letter.. i didnt even know your pledge name at the time.

You put NASH and pictures all over your site (not to mention DOM, SOL, etc).. youre on ours.. if you cant deal with it, give me your address and ill mail you some tissue and some cheese to go with your whine. read that disclaimer on the beginning of your site and suck it up.. you're big boys and girls.

Props to NeoBlue and Eolee (among others as well).. been very sensible people (to which we've been sensible in return).. i'd almost like to consider them buds. I wish the people above them had, somewhere along the line, obtained the same sense they did.

Your members dont want war.. you have SOL. and i know for ever screenshot you have of a SOL death, they must have 4 or 5 SSs or at least memories of your ends. not to be mean, but you wont win. the past 2 weeks we'd been on friendly terms, but biz is just being a raging fool. communicate with your members and find out whats going on in the world outside of your own personal space, biz. The only people I've really seen you end is newbs in our pledge. You stating words of war and lists of lies (and whining about our site which is WAY less harsh than yours) is just causing problems that had ceased to be TWO WEEKS AGO. If you have beef, back it up and bring it on. You end our newbs, so this means RDC would have some serious problems to deal with.. we all have our kids to take care of.. i got mine and you have yours. I dont think you can afford another problem.. in recent weeks i'd even proposed to members that we start talks to have JOINT events that involved NASH and FCA.. but that was given a harsh smack in the face.

We need to agree to disagree.. let it be, paul so lovingly said. no backtalk, no gunk, nor any sentimental drivel.. either you shutup and stop pking (and then saying WE started it.. god, its almost your religion) or fight.. OR we could stop acknowledging each other.. it's a hassle, and it'd unfocus what NEEDS to be done on the Dep. server. How can people be unseated when the only hopes of unseating those in power are fighting each other? reap what you sew.. you post SSs on compendium, SSs on ur site with lame comentary.. post who you hate, who's on parole, and whats gonna happen if you do this and this and this and this and this..... but you cant TAKE it.. trade in the brains of brass for some balls of brass and a universal mind.. we're a stitch in your side, and likewise the other way around.. we can live peacefully, help each other, or fight. having peace would be, well, peaceful. helping each other could be risky but kinda fun. fighting, well.. you may have other opinions, but you're messing with an entirely different beast then last time- and you had trouble with THAT beast.. the more we fight, the more our enemies strengthen. from what i see, we have many common enemies other than ourselves.

December 27, 2002 06:19 pm ET (#45)
Yoshiki
Loyal Fan

667 posts
12-13-02

"FCA taught them what it is to have a full enemy, and where they needed to improve. They also learned what not to become as a pledge." Like saying Fca is not a good pledge or is a kind of "pledge u have to be not like". Fca is a good pledge I can say cuz I know Sharparrows and I know hes a really good player, and he leads it. But more important is I can say cuz im simple player, but since u r a reporter and u r doing a report u should be neutral with pledge or players that have nothing to do with the interview. Subliminal...we have enough on tv no?
note: i dont like FCA im not member and i fought em many time.

December 27, 2002 06:25 pm ET (#46)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Injektilo:

Thank you for a reasoned response. You and I will have to agree to disagree as to the genesis of our conflict. However, the problem wasn't so much with the pictures as it was with the lies in the commentary made by your webmaster as well as the fact that we were supposed to be at peace and this diatribe comes out. When SS are posted of us on LC and elsewhere we typically say good job (as Sharp did when his was posted). Like I said, you end them you get to post. However, I believe the pics of dead Nash on our site were removed after the "no hit" was enacted.

But regardless this gets us nowhere. The point being is that at no time did we devote an entire page to slamming just your pledge (as your site has done). We posted SS of when we were fighting and that was that. Your pledge posted a new diatribe against us and included SS of past events. We also did not disrespect your pledge during our spotlight even though we were at war with you. Yet your pledge did so in their LC spotlight when we were supposed to be on "even terms" with each other. Oh BTW- I think just more than your newbs died recently (unless Aarthin is a newb). But this also gets us (FCA & NASH) nowhere.

Yes, we both have our pledges (and sister pledges) to look after and I too had suggested joint FCA / NASH events for us both. I too, am a reasonable person and can tell you are likewise. And yes we BOTH have common enemies that would definitely not like to see us get together against them. Yes, peace would be good and peaceful ... helping each other could be fun as well (even though people we've trusted before have shown themselves to be untrustworthy)...and yes we do have other opinions about fighting each other (you're right about that).

The next move I guess is NASH's my friend. We do have common enemies and we could work together or we could fight. Its your call.

December 27, 2002 06:51 pm ET (#47)
ChaosZ
Loyal Fan

23 posts
09-14-02

Hey, I would just like to throw in a comment about us "disrespecting" FCA during the spotlight. In the interview, we said we had numerous battles, and the interviewer had asked "with FCA?" So, we answered the question and said that was the pledge we had the most problems with. I would just like to point that out to show that we didn't come out and say FCA to the reporter. We were asked if FCA was the pledge and, naturally, responded with the truth.

Hope this clears up a little bit of the confusion.
~ChaosZ~

December 27, 2002 06:51 pm ET (#48)
Lillianrill
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-27-02

Hello again..............

I don't have a problem with any FCA, never have, and unless they do something to me, never will. Politics are politics, I'm playing the game, but I'll back up my pledgemates anyday, so no hard feelings FCA.

December 27, 2002 08:24 pm ET (#49)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

injektilo :) for every death of the alliance, there are NOT 4/5 deaths by us.. id say in the 'score' category we're still up on that one (they just have some many freaking people^^)...

and as to 'lies'.. this current 'fiasco' started when i got attacked in wl (while chaotic), I didn't get any help, didn't badmouth anyone or anything, I retaliated alone (no problems, wasn't a pledge thing, it was fun, no hard feelings).. but as I was retaliating (i had a list^^) I got lawful before I hit everyone (not to kill necessarily, but to let them know I was there) and then you (nash) thought I was pk'ing (techinically correct, but only as a 2nd strike) and I still had not got the pledge involved... then the 'fca war?' spotlight was 1st posted on your website.. Aarthin and a knight (with dogs and mops) ended me in the tower.. then I ended Aarthin and some mages on oren wasteland, but it was 'war' according to you guys.. I talked to aarthin and you and you guys said that, "the website is run by Severn and he put that up without our permission"...

I realize the 1st 'war' was probably our fault, usually is with our aggressive playstyle.. but this battle that currently rages (or not?) is not our fault.. you can believe me or not, that is your call.. but thats what happened...

My only request was to remove my pic from the front page, heck I didn't care that it was there, everyone in that pic (minus 1 I think) died not too long after that (and a couple 2 times) and I was 6:1 so I don't feel bad :)

December 27, 2002 08:39 pm ET (#50)
redpig
Loyal Fan

283 posts
10-15-02

it's like
all dep pledge spotlights turn into a huge argument...~.~
ppl flame so much

December 27, 2002 09:02 pm ET (#51)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

didn't say severn put it up without permission.. it was stated that he runs the website content. he has perission to run the site and does it well. look at how many pledge ur "at war" with on your site and realize how many of them you arent at ar with. they don't throw a fit.. plin and simple, it should be known that if you come out of treaty and attack, it's categorized s a war move.. especially in situations as these. you should be more aware of this.

December 27, 2002 09:07 pm ET (#52)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

forgive my typos.. its not keeping up with my typing.

typh, you mention we seem to targe your pledge alone. you're the only pledge we seem to have an ongoing problem with.. you have MANY of them and post on all of them, cos well, it was earned.

the eolee incident happened AFTER the drake incident.. we didn't touch til we got hit. no,aarthin isn't a newb, but generally, you've ended mere newbs.. no offense to them, but it's not hard. i'm just stating that if this gets out of hand, i'm not keeping this to only the trouble makers as we have in the past. it goes to everyone, just as you impliment on us.

take the rest of this topic.. we can cover it in email.
username is the same as my dep. name.

December 27, 2002 09:57 pm ET (#53)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Injektilo:

Email ? What's your email tag ? Yahoo ? MSN ? Or do you mean in-game mail ? I'd love to speak to you in more detail so please respond.

Thanks

December 28, 2002 11:38 am ET (#54)
Clipse
Loyal Fan

41 posts
11-27-02

Nash, I was once a member way back when I had my mage, lol an accident during a pledge hunt with fireball and eruption left me chaotic and one dead pledgemate lol. From then on, I decided ill take a break from NASH lol. Anyway, congrats on getting recognition, Wassup to GlorindellII/Gildon, if I quit maybe I'll give you items lol.

~I'm The Pusha~

December 28, 2002 01:01 pm ET (#55)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

Write me a stationary in-game and we'll go to email from there.
^^

December 28, 2002 02:57 pm ET (#56)
KnightFyen
Loyal Fan

14 posts
11-25-02

Wow, there was a big argument right here! And I missed them! Oh well
I will say same thing with Lillianrill. I've never fought with FCA but if I have to because of the pledges, I will

December 28, 2002 10:17 pm ET (#57)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

Wow. So much beef from a lil pledge spotlight. Congrats to Nash for their spotlight! U guys have always been kool with me. Keep up the good work.

~Strength & Honor~

~K~

ps- Watch for our return...

December 28, 2002 10:52 pm ET (#58)
Crackerman
Loyal Fan

34 posts
11-12-02

NASH really needs to stop begging us not to hit them, it is a little sad.

December 28, 2002 11:41 pm ET (#59)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

i got a SS of some begging me to stop pking them and leave them alone and im not even in FCA kaka

December 29, 2002 12:15 am ET (#60)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

try to end me, cracker. you can learn about whining firsthand (from yourself, that is).

December 29, 2002 12:35 am ET (#61)
MissKat
Loyal Fan

2 posts
01-06-03

Greetings and TY to everyone who posted. First i have to say to FCA I do respect your pledge as you are a fierce, aggressive, and smart opponent. I did not want to war you but it seems as we have no choice now. As far as the "practice" comment it was meant as it taught us better tactics and group coordination. The comment about what not to be like is meant as it is said. We do not want to be like you. Some of your members are great, however the compilation is where you get your rep from and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I do not want the same rep for my pledge. My pledge as a whole does not grief or pk. We have had some members who have and they get weeded out. To all that like Nash thanks for your support it is for you that we succeed. I do not complain about other pledges or ppl on these boards and I dont whine or cry if PK'd. To all those that hate NASH. I have to say that I am sorry if a member or I did something that you didnt like but that is life and you dont have to like everyone. Nash has been great to me from the start and I am proud of our loyal members. And lastly thanks to everyone who had a part in making Nash the great pledge that it is. TY Compendium for the great interview and spotlight.

December 29, 2002 01:04 am ET (#62)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

ummm...cracker....who said i was white....and secondly i will not only try but succeed whenever i get home from outa town

December 29, 2002 01:36 am ET (#63)
MaximusD
Loyal Fan

15 posts
05-14-02

oh the arrogance.

One of the main reason I love Nash, is we believe in a pledge for the "little" people. The Arrogance of some gives them right to pk at will and look down upon anyone not lvl 45+..

oh Biz.. that was sad, you truly underestimate the power of Nash. This "little" pledge got enough players to open some serious whoopin our our members. I dislike a full war, because there are some good people in your pledge. But I hope to do battle with you, and actually I am enjoying warring with FCA. Because my little band of characters aren't newbies no more. BloodNash began with 0 players above lvl 30, and some of those people you pked early in their lineage life, well guess what. that got some weapons and ac that will put some serious hurt on people, and I don't recommend you mess with them. And as for Shin, I love that guy, Loyal true and through, and serves me with his very last, and for that he has my utmost respect.

It's a game. lets have fun with it. Peace and War. Our loyalty and love goes to our members. All Hail NASH!

-maximusd
-minid
-ministerd (bloodnash)

December 29, 2002 01:42 am ET (#64)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

I for one fear the true power of nash /sarcasim off

And u guys think you are the only ones that have improved on your weapons/ac? You think everyone else has been sitting around waiting for you guys to catch up?I for one will also look forward to this all out war...i will gladdly fight alongside FCA .

All Hail NASH ......( i can see a future adolf coming)

December 29, 2002 05:31 am ET (#65)
MaximusD
Loyal Fan

15 posts
05-14-02

yeah.... good thinking.. but flawed...

someone might be stronger from lvl 45 to 50. yeah...it's a big deal
but getting from 10 to 45 is a even more imporant cuz 2 lvl 45 elf gonna whoop on that lvl 50 elf.. what is one +8 yumi gonna do against 2 +7 yumi's?

and I hope you stand by FCA, cuz it will make it more interesting.. bring it on...
stand by those newbie killers,
FCA just give us more incentive to lvl and power up, it's all good..

max out

December 29, 2002 10:56 am ET (#66)
lite
Loyal Fan

9 posts
05-30-02

You guys are so damm silly!

Biz dont be silly if fca wars with nash others will take the opurtunity to put the *censored* on fca.

Nash also dont be silly you guys got better things to do then war with fca.

As far as him concern i got to start a war on everyone hehee.

So shake hands and quit the *censored* :).

December 29, 2002 11:51 am ET (#67)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Does FCA do this with every pledge spotlight? Or are we favored by your attention? I am sure some1 will correct me, but I dun think NASH has gone around spoiling other spotlights.
I stand behind my congrats of Sharparrows and a few others, but for most of the rest of ya...sheesh, get a life! Then come c me in OWL. Soft ac...ask Quahog. I'm easy target. ^&^

December 29, 2002 01:35 pm ET (#68)
MadCat
Loyal Fan

1 posts
12-29-02

Woo hoo! Nash spotlight~~~

ps. ChaosZ is gay! , muhahahhaaha

December 29, 2002 01:51 pm ET (#69)
Circus
Loyal Fan

62 posts
11-06-02

Hmmm....Nash you are so very powerful......I can't even count on my hands and toes how many nash have either gone down or venz'd to me alone in fv....then only to have your members wis me begging to stop hitting.....it is pathetic so quit pretending your strong ~.~

Also you should communicate better with your members because they keep asking me why I am hitting them. When you declare war on your website at least tell your people.. Hail Nash bla bla bla bla bla....

Oh and also they call sol to every fight....what a bunch of wussies....

December 29, 2002 03:21 pm ET (#70)
RenMaster
Loyal Fan

92 posts
05-26-02

that website is an eminem fansite page

December 29, 2002 04:12 pm ET (#71)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

o.o
Alas, a hack by who knows whom. Some folks dun know how to keep it in the game. It should be up again soon. ^&^
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In the meantime, for some quality entertainment go to: funkycoldadena.org
Even put bounties on NASH. Hey, u shd email NC about ur ideas and get em into the game. NC obviously doesn't care about harassment anymore. <|:o ho ho ho
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I must say, however, I am proud to be occupying so much of their time and webspace.

December 29, 2002 04:24 pm ET (#72)
OnlyM3
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-01-02

maxmusd, have u ever tried to fight a lvl 50 elf? let alone one that has 50+ water heal? he can own 2 lvl 45+ elves without using pots..so get your +7 yumis and bring it

December 29, 2002 09:40 pm ET (#73)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

hey seoul ask severn what happened to the website?? I actually liked the price guide there

December 29, 2002 09:46 pm ET (#74)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

It's back up...I have no idea what's going on with that

December 30, 2002 12:46 am ET (#75)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Site back up and runnin' hard. Price guide is kinda handy. Nothing official, now. No lawsuits for errors or omissions. Advice is free, and that's what it's worth.
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Thanks all fer ur support. ^&^ Cool rules Lineage!!
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God bless America, warts and all. Times r tough, we get tougher.

December 30, 2002 07:45 am ET (#76)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

MissKat:

Thank You for your explanation it goes a long way towards explaining a few things. Many of us took that "practice" comment and the subsequent slam by Severn on the website as an indication that you were becoming aggressive towards us by being disrespectful. Many of us have grown to respect your pledge and what you've accomplished in the past few months. Alas, had it not been for your web designer giving the official Nash reply (right away) to us (thus telling us that waiting until Sunday would be fruitless) this war may not have even started. I suggest you talk to Biz and work things out. A "no hit" for now and possibly a working relationship in the future can go a long way towards helping us both fight our common enemies.

Seoul:

No we don't do this in every spotlight. Many of us took the "practice" comment as an insult and that is why this is here. MissKat and Injektilo have explained what it was meant to be since then. But, this spotlight already has multiple comments here so *shrugs*

Severn:

Had it just been the "practice" comment we could've maybe worked things out (MissKat and Injektilo have explained how that happened and I take them at their word). However you alone bear the responsibility for this war. Your insulting and error-filled diatribe against FCA had pushed this to where it is today. One of our members who had tried to work with you guys into getting a joint FCA/NASH alliance going even sent you a mailpaper to help correct a few things. To which you promptly put up on your site and dissed. We had attempted to find out why you had hostility towards us and work through it. We were rebuffed by you (and then the LC spotlight came out with the "practice" comment and that was the last straw for many of those in FCA who had good feelings toward NASH). When your members who are ended wonder why they lost 13% they need only to look at you.

December 30, 2002 09:26 am ET (#77)
Spyfox
Loyal Fan

117 posts
09-20-02

wow.

i knew nash had a few sisterpledges... but this is a bit much.
there must be over 100 people in nash O.O

December 30, 2002 02:09 pm ET (#78)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

Severn and Aarthin bear deep grudges from getting beat down long ago. That fight, you'll recall started because they didn't like being PK'd...

I'm curious about the TEAM concept discussed in the spotlight. It seems most of NASH membership does not want the war that Severn has stimulated with FCA. Is Severn a leader of the pledge? Or merely a webmaster? If so he should accurately chronicle the events of the pledge, not print rumours (example: "War with FCA?") He thinks a questionmark frees him from liability over starting a war.

Then calling the multiple deaths to us practice is insulting, AND is being a sore loser. There's no doubt who is stronger, NASH was a newbie pledge when we fought. We didn't want that war either. We don't desire to kill newbs over and over again. Our actions speak for us. We agreed to end the war before.

But you don't have the dignity to admit defeat. You harbor anger and let it come out when you think you're safe--when FCA is busy with SOL. lol none of you can stand in and fight us. You know that and we know that. We proved it all weekend. You just call SOL and escape. Then when they show up, you act like you're tough. It's laughable. If it wasn't so pathetic.

Tonight the screenshots of your members dying and begging to be left alone go up. So do the screenshots of people agreeing to leave NASH. Those two wings that joined recently. They're rethinking their decision to join your TEAM. Your own members don't like what you're doing. Why don't you try representing THEM? Then you might be a TEAM.

When you're all alone, and it's just you and aarthin wearing yoru emblem, how tough will you be then?

December 30, 2002 03:24 pm ET (#79)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

Prolly not too strong, so answer your question "FCA."
But that won't happen.

Oh, btw- HandoftheGod END
Vordak END
Pinchy END
Aegir END
Circus END
Talus venz end venz venz venz venz
Knightbeauty venz venz venz and venz again.
theres a lot more..
if you wanna stop getting gangbaned, dont hit NASH while fighting SOL.
if you dont want ppl (like the Roses today) getting involved, dont hit them while they bystand.. that's why you're so publicly unfavorable.. and all it does is lead to Biz whining endlessly on your chasm of a webpage.
end this thread.
either fight, make peace, or SOMETHING. i dont care which, just as long as your shut your mouth.. or break off your typing fingers.. god, SOMETHING.

Gimme your RECENT list (3 months ago we were all 8 lvls or so weaker) of NEWBS that you ended.. My list of ppl ended in the last 2 days I BELIEVE are all 40+.
I was ended by Eolee and K1LL4FUN. OMG i ENDED!!!! ah! who cares? Tommy ended 2 nights ago and no one is gloating over it cos PEOPLE END. but since you're so insistant that this issue is important to you.. im happy to comply.
for humor, go to funkycoldadena.org.. my mother even thought it was hilarious.. then she asked the question I've asked MANY times.
"How old is this Bizmarkie guy?"

December 30, 2002 03:58 pm ET (#80)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

lol youre good at listing SOL's accomplishments.

Maybe I should call people to end NASH? Nah, it's not necessary since I can do it myself. And if I asked people to end you, they'd be like "Whats Nash?"

December 30, 2002 05:01 pm ET (#81)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

excuse me aarthin, bloodedroses didn't 'bystand' as you put it.. since I was there, they attacked me and my dogs... they died

December 30, 2002 05:03 pm ET (#82)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Injek:

People end all the time thats true. However, please list thsoe that Nash actually killed okay !! If you want to stand up to us do so on your own merits and don't call in SOL when you're fighting us. Its pretty sad when you talk big and then hide behind SOL.

There are alot of your members dying lately and FCA did the job. We didn't call in another pledge to fight for us, we did it ourselves. If you want anyone to respect you (even if they hate you) you have to do it yourselves and not hide behind another pledge. The fact remains that our characters are used to fighting and the occasional death. Your new pledgies aren't. How soon will it be that many of your members start bolting your pledge b/c of a war that Severn brought upon them ??

I've tried to be peaceful and get you guys to work with me in crafting a solution to the problem. But Severn seems hellbent on war so thats where we are at. You want Nash to stop bleeding into the dirt ? Then tell Severn to cut it out. Then we can work on a "no hit" and then craft some sort of working relationship so we can work against the alliance. We know you have no love for them and we don't either so they are all too happy to watch us go at it. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail but until they do, look forward to having to call SOL in when FCA shows up.

December 30, 2002 05:27 pm ET (#83)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

you're quite misguided.

we hide behind no one. some boneheads in your pledge cause the joint-beatings cos they're, uhm, so smart.. the daily reading of "goat-herding weekly" must really sharpen their perspective.

the other night, we did not call SOL. some BONEHEAD knight decided to hit Nyef of neoNASH and whisper him to tell him it was over our site (look at yours now AND pre-BIZ-had-A-hernia). that nite, the NASH/SOL (and others) smackdown was invented. it was your beast. look to whoever the bright boy was a shun him cos they created something you DID NOT want (we overheard a discussion in your house that you didn't want a NASH war cos SOL was already giving you a run for your money). Pls dont deny that, we have SSs. you may not have been involved, but many of your members private discussion do not reflect what you all say publicly.. nor does it mirror biz's random and incohesive rants.. dare i say tourettes?

again, SHUT UP. FCA had to come on this thread and piss on some1 else's parade cos thats what you do best. all wouldve been fine.. our site, reluctantly, was residing.. we had a "hold on all attacks." then we overheard a discussion, again, in FCA house (2 discussions) that exhibited that NASH hunts were happening and being strategized (we have a nice SS of Knightbeauty). then we were 12 year old pimply "whore riders" on your site before Biz's cute "sunday deadline." i'm so astounded and dumbfounded by biz (as are many people) that i wish he'd write a book on himself. i may come out dumber for reading it, but jeez, so many questions as to why his parents didnt flog him (or didnt flog him enough).

~*~*~IN SUM, go to the archives and check FCAs spotlight.. how many NASH were there moaning and groaning like jealous babies? next to nil cos we had respect for others bright moments (even tho it was close to the peak of hostilities).~*~*~

sorry for such animosity and venom in my posts.. im prolly not being much better, but im sick of the grudge holding, the lying, the name calling, the joyous deaths of noobs, and the BS. i tried calling for peace and joint activities thru this thread AND through some FCA members (who seemed receptive, as did some NASH). but all youre doing is making problems and blaming others.

WE HIDE BEHIND NO ONE. you're just so righteous and fair that everyone wants to knock you down and pk you 'cos you're the best. i note back to a post by FCA4Eva or SOMEONE on compendium a month or 2 ago.. he/she/whoever said, "if you hate us so much, gather your friends and come end us." we ddint even have the gather or talk to anyone, FCA orchestrated it for us. i thank you. ^^ practice what you preach. i have a couple respected pals in FCA, but the good eggs seem to follow the bad eggs.. thats loyalty, and thats good. even if i dont agree with their conduct and actions, their loyalty to one another is great. good for you.
cant we all just get along? hehe.

December 30, 2002 05:29 pm ET (#84)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

last post. circus, gimme your email address.
i wanna send that pic of you ending today.. took 15 arrows and 4 or 5 swats from chaos. lol, and you pk with your dogs. lol remember that time we fought in FV and you ran out of arrows and i was kind enough to not venz/end you? this courtesy would never be extended by your pledge.

December 30, 2002 05:53 pm ET (#85)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Typhoon, u seem reasonable. Why must NASH stand down while ya'll strut around dis'ing all we do and say? Biz demands we admit defeat/parole? You really asking a pledge to pay homage to you? That's not respect; that's arrogance. We owe ya'll. You've taught us to fight pvp more than any pledge. We are not a pk pledge, period. The handful of exceptions are long gone or reformed. PKs r part of the game, but not part of our pledge. And we're not gonna kiss any rear to simply be allowed to play a game.
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Unfortunately, fighting, venzing, fighting, ending....i.e., wasting your pledges' time (and ours) is the only thing some seem to understand. (I do realize some folks on both sides like the pvp rush--thas cool. It is a rush. But organized harrassment, taunting and targeting shouldn't be). You expect us to sit idly by while you pk, rant and rave? Really? Ink is right on one thing at least, Biz can dish it out, but he can't take it....not at all. All is fine and well as long as he has his way. Talk about immature 12-yr olds?
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Your website should be an embarrassment to all associated with FCA. It's a game, remember? And you talk of riding whores and worse. We've boasted of good fights, challenged you all, heh, and maybe we stretched things a little. But, we aren't malicious. You are. Your site's self-righteousness is hypocritical and self-delusionary.
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Ever wonder why it's so easy getting support from some of the strongest pledges in the game? FCA has been around a long time. You've been arrogant, belittling and just plain mean to so many ppl. We are just the latest. There will undoubtedly be legions more you'll annoy
AND HERE'S THE POINT!!
Some of ya'll simply sulking that we are standing up for ourselves this time. It happens. Until you learn to live reasonably with NASH, the game will be more challenging for us all.
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Come on back to the Oren packs, Biz. I've been waiting for you. You left too quickly last time. Me and my pack friends like you visiting. I dun call for SOL. A mage has to have a little guile and cunning to face knights, eh? I won't face you 1:1, NC left me ill-prepared for that. But I will cause you turmoil and grief if you continue to attack me. Choice is, as always, yours. Waste polys and pots. No skin off my nose. I cancel and venz. I'll waste as much of ur time and money as you want. That goes for you too Knightbeauty, Circus, Eolee (altho I think you're actually fun to fight E), Talass, et al.
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Sharp, you can stay in FV please. ^&^

December 30, 2002 05:55 pm ET (#86)
Elric
Loyal Fan

337 posts
10-29-02

legolas01 is back o.o

December 30, 2002 05:56 pm ET (#87)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

LOL ... the Sunday deadline was thrown out the window by Severn's ill-advised response to us basically telling us to go to H*LL. So if the deadline is pointless then why hold to it ? Blame Severn for that, not FCA.

And again, please list those people you (NASH) actually end and not those that others have ended. We make sure that those who are lying on the gorund on our site are the work of FCA and not someone else. Alliance and FCA have been fighting for awhile now. Deaths on both sides are nothing new (although we're still up in the "score" category) to us so its no big deal [BTW - 5 alliance members "bit it" today (not including the NASH that ended)to FCA]. But you guys haven't had to deal with it and you've got ALOT of members pissed off at your leadership for where you've taken them. Again, your words don't ring true since Nash has been either venzing immediately or dying to us since last Friday.

And yes, check back through the LC Spotlight. That happened during our "war" and we STILL didn't disrespect you in it. Your "practice" comment (admittedly in hindsight you've explained how that came out) when taken with Severns lies and misrepresentations of the current FCA/NASH situation on the website were viewed as a challenge and a slam on FCA to us. Since we were supposed to be at peace we tried to get you guys to take it down or at least put up factual stuff, but we were rebuffed by Severn. Only after that happened did Biz come here and post what he did. Then Severn basically told us "no" IMMEDIATELY and that he would not comply with what Biz asked. That's it, end of story, no need to wait until the Sunday deadline if the other side already said no. Simply put, Severn was spoiling for a fight and now you guys have one.

Injek ... I too am trying to work with you and have sent you missives to try to end this (to which you have not responded). But until Nash tells Severn to get in line and cut it out (who runs your pledge - you or Severn?)I'm afraid I will have to be one of those loyal members who sides with my pledge. Believe me I'd rather be working with you but we tried to be peaceful and get you guys to at least be respectful of our "peace" and you (Severn) still disrespected us. Now, we're not at peace. So, like I said before, the next move is yours ...

December 30, 2002 06:14 pm ET (#88)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Seoul:

Thank You ... I try to be reasonable. I've heard your viewpoint now hear mine. Everything was just fine between us until after the Eolee incident. Nazh has explained how that happened. Then Severn comes on your website talking about "War with FCA : Real or Publicity Stunt" [ that was the title]. Which took our pledge by surprise b/c we did not consider ourselves at war with Nash.

In this thread he uses old SS of Eolee to make it look like it was recent. He also shows a pic of a fake FCA prince (BigTime) and makes it look like one of our princes was ended (BigTime - had Severn checked - is the prince of DragonKillaz pledge). He then slams our pledge saying that we can't hunt in the "prime spots" (a lie since everyone in FCA pretty much hunts where they want to - shoot Sharp levelled to 50 in FV : how could he do this if he couldn't hunt prime spots??) and basically said we had to live like outlaws on the server.

This was a shock to me since I did not consider us to be hostile towards you and had actually worked with a few Nash against SOL and other alliance members and was proposing to our pledge that we forge closer ties to Nash to help you all and start an anti-alliance with other pledges. Well with Severn's invective how could we ??? A few FCA tried to talk to Severn and get him to at least post factual stuff and asked him what was the deal. Eolee asked that the pic of him at least be moved off the front page but there it sat. So thats where we were.

Then Severn posted a mailpaper from one of our members and basically dissed him. Imagine...a mailpaper that was attempting to head off rising hostility from FCA was then posted on your website and ridiculed. Then the LC spotlight appears where Nash calls FCA "practice"[we never slamemd another pledge in our spotlight]. This from a pledge that didn't want war with FCA ?? How would it be possible to believe you didn't want a fight when your actions speak to a different conclusion ???

Simply put, we tried to be diplomatic with you and were rebuffed. And not only were we rebuffed we were publicly slammed by you. I've tried to head off the hostilities but not a word from any of your leadership [ which leads me to believe that this was a deliberate result sought by Nash). This inexorably lead to us demanding that that page be taken down. And severn's immediate response of "No" basically has us where we are today. Far from standing up for yourselves it is actually Nash who has instigated this spat. We sought no war from you until we were provoked through your own rhetoric.

As I've said in countless posts before ... the next move is Nash's. Yuo can continue to have Nash die or you can talk to us and we can end hostilities and we can work together in the future. I'd rather do the latter but again the choice is yours.

December 30, 2002 09:32 pm ET (#89)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

0.o
Bah! This is waste of time. Your the pk pledge, not us. You make the lame excuse that one or even two pk incidents started this???? Are you for real? Which pledge is proud of their pks? Huh? Check the email from Biz, your leadership. It ain't about peaceful coexistence. It never is.

Ya'll had junk about us on your website before we even had a website, remember? SS of noobs you ended. I dun think anyone of us was even 40 yet. Remember? Prolly not. Biz all proud about how faced he gets, then speaks of 12-yr-olds and whores. What a class act.

Take ur F--- NASH down, and we'll reciprocate. It's ur move or not!

December 30, 2002 10:55 pm ET (#90)
Crackerman
Loyal Fan

34 posts
11-12-02

Dude, I don't think you are in any postion to be demanding anything of FCA. Put some heat on us. End/venz us repeatedly, chase us to the darkest depths of Aden to hunt (as you spoke of the alliance doing to us on your website)or at least fight us one time without calling SoL. Do anything. Then come back and demand something of us.

December 30, 2002 11:02 pm ET (#91)
ChRmNbUnNi
Loyal Fan

1 posts
06-05-03

hell ya!! NASH rocks ^^ I love NASH haha
~ForeverLoveX

December 30, 2002 11:59 pm ET (#92)
MissKat
Loyal Fan

2 posts
01-06-03

Typhoon this second FCA-Nash episode has been building up long before the spotlight or website uploads. Some of your members have been taking shots at some of mine long before this. If you want to blame us for your failure to be trustworthy and keep a truce that is your selfillusion. The fact of the matter is FCA broke the truce repeatedly. We gave you time to see if it would stop but to no avail. Then the spotlight and website went up. Since you were hitting us we could only think that war was on again. You have proven yourself to be untrustworthy. Any hopes of an alliance with you is far away at this time. You will not tell us what we can or cant have on our website. You do not control my pledges or I. We will defend ourselves until you come to practice this trust that you preach. As we see it now you are not worthy of our trust at this time. If you dont want a bad rep then dont do the things that give you one =)

MissKat

December 31, 2002 12:04 am ET (#93)
Vines
Loyal Fan

45 posts
10-14-02

How in the world did NASH get a pledge spotlight? Since when has LC been interviewing newbie pledges? I've kiled 30+ NASH and have screenshots to prove.Recent too, because 2 months ago you were all wearing diapers, and pking you NASH wasn't worth going chao, dropping +2 cops and +1 rapiers. Stop hiding behind SOL alliance. When it breaks, or when FCA and SOL stop fighting, there's going to be a lot of dead NASH shit

December 31, 2002 12:17 am ET (#94)
MaximusD
Loyal Fan

15 posts
05-14-02

so the war continues...

and until we get a apology from Biz, this war will continue..

You know, Aarth might have made a mistake, but he fessed up to it.
He is more man then most of you FCA

Kat has strived for peace, anyone who knows her, knows that her soul is kind
but FCA's incessent annoying tactics continue to prolong the war

I realize that feelings have been hurt on both sides, and to be honest, we have no grudge against FCA.
If a true truce was called tomorrow, We Nash would go on, we have NO vendetta against FCA. Seoul even left the pledge for a month because he had a personal grudge against some FCA, (he knows better)
I can not speak for every Nash member, but I can speak behalf of the leadership in which I am a part of. And if a Truce was called, there would be no tolerance for grievances. No one person is allowed to disrupt the whole. Understand Nash is a large pledge, and hence all kinds of people.

We want to battle FCA one day, on the battleground, and when it is over shake hands, and congratulate the winner. But some of FCA behavior have been close to harrasement.

and for the reason for Biz's apology.
I believe a leader must take responsiblity for the actions of their pledge. Some of you in FCA have acted like dorks, and you just beg to be ended, this is not a feeling harbored by Nash alone.

look. We all know FCA got some dorks in their midst. WE ALL KNOW this. Just fess up that you are a pk pledge, cuz you are, and stop playing the righteous card, cuz we all know you're not..

until the next venz - hope to cya again..

to be honest, it is good "practice" fighting you. Because one of goals is not to Destroy FCA, we have other goals, But battling you have helped us emensly become a better pledge. For that, it's good to have an enemy.

December 31, 2002 01:01 am ET (#95)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

"We all know FCA got some dorks in their midst. WE ALL KNOW this."

That goes both ways :)

I have NO animosity to anyone, its a game guys, get real^^... when I fight anyone in your pledge (ask aarthin) after its over I talk to them (either way, win or lose).. a few of your members like to wis bad things to me (again win or lose) and severn seems to hate me personally o.O... but I do alot of walking around in coi lately (like chaos) and about 8 times today I was standing next to a nash person that said "im talking to sol ... they're on the way"...

yes, if there was a truce, everyone would honor it, for awhile, then something would happen somewhere, sometime and boom..

until biz calms (and aarthin I must admit) and severn's sense of humor turns (a little) then it will keep going...

Post note: Ive seen a few dead fca's.. not one was ended by a nash pledge member...not wracking on you guys (maybe I just wasn't there^^) and all the nash dead Ive seen were needless deaths...I told 1 guy to tele :( he didn't but I didn't get the last hit....

the fighting is 'fun', thats all it should be.. both sides (and please, don't even try to tell me that either side is being 'honorable' in this) are taking it way to seriously..

again, its a game, play it

December 31, 2002 01:05 am ET (#96)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

1 question..who is to gain from this?

IF FCA WIN:

NASH falls another victim to harrassment and public verbal flogging, which no one really cares about anyway.
FCA is viewed as a group who PK's and bothers people who get a share of the limelight.

IF NASH WIN:
FCA is regarded as just another pledge due to the fact that they lost a war to a bigger pledge.
NASH is regarded as the pledge that took down the "mighty FCA"

I've heard the phrase "pick your battles wisely" Time for your turn to listen guys.

December 31, 2002 01:07 am ET (#97)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

i agree with Nazh...tis but a game everyone.

December 31, 2002 09:20 am ET (#98)
ChaosZ
Loyal Fan

23 posts
09-14-02

Very well said both Nazh and Preebs. It is just a game, and even if a side loses, what does it matter? It is just like any other game that you would play with your friends, you lose, you congratulate them and move on, maybe play them again.

I think you said it well Nazh, don't take it too seriously, it is just a game. Play for fun!

GL and have fun!
~ChaosZ~

December 31, 2002 10:20 am ET (#99)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

Sportscenter Highlights: A nash person struck the final blow on one of our Elves in the bridge fight at FV. The elf was being hit by others (elves), but to his credit, a NASH got the ending blow. That's their one. We have 8 confirmed kills with SS and up to ten more with SS not yet sent to me(unique not double kills on same person). People like seoulearer celebrate cancelling people. We end people. That's the difference.


And to whoever thinks we break truces. First of all, I never agreed to any truce. Last time, when things calmed down, I told the pledge to stop hitting you. You had ceased to be annoying so I thought the violence should end. (It was actually a pledgemates idea that I just made official because it was the right time.)

Think back. At any point did any of your billion princes ask me for a truce, ceasefire, etc to which I responded "yes, you have my word it will be so." You talk of shaking hands after losing a battle. Who's hand would you shake? That would be mine. Our website listed you "on parole" meaning that your behavior would determine how you're treated (still does actually).

Now that that's out of the way, what did you do when violence erupted between a few, select members of our pledges? Did you contact me and ask me what was up? Did you write me and tell me someone from your pledge was hit by FCA and ask me to put an end to it? You have like 7 pledges and 50000 newbs, do you know what theyre all doing at each moment? Hmmm no. One of my chao members was hit by your people (which got your boy a whuppin, but it was still aggression). THAT's what got my attention. If other things happened, I was never told, by FCA or NASH (my people don't bother me with every detail of PvP, but anything out of the ordinary usually bubbles up. We keep a log on our private discussion board).

So you call me a liar and truce breaker, when I never gave you a truce. And you accuse me of things when you never even ventured to speak with me before the violence got out of hand. And the whole time you weren't pursuing diplomatic solutions, you allow your stupid webmaster to insult us. I think whoever is in charge over there, needs to take charge and not let his/her emotions dictate policy.

You see FCA has one prince, one point of contact. And im easy to get a hold of. We speak with one voice. You may think Im pigheaded because I do things in the interest of my pledge first and foremost. I may not give alliances or truces easily or quickly but when I do, they stick. (NATAS hunts without fear all these months later). I also do what is necessary to remedy situations I want ended.

When BloodedRose got involved in a recent fight, I immediately contacted their prince. Because I know who he is and who is in charge over there. We initially sent messages to you from a sympathetic member of our pledge, a kind emmissary that we thought would be well received. You shat on it and put it on the web. I've sent olive branchs to many combatant pledges in the past. And my pledge openly debates and decides who we should stop hitting in the interest of the pledge. You need to get some skills in the leadership department and limit the voice of the people who claim to represent your pledge. My people post a lot but they all publicly defer to me on decisions. That's important.

You've got 5 (6?) princes, and probably some lame ass committee of leadership. Youve got a webmaster that acts like hes in charge. Youve got 120 people that dont know what the so called leadership is doing. THATS why you dont know whats going on, or how to end it.

SOL can't protect you at all. By the time they show up, NASH's blood is warming the soil and snow. And they grow tired of showing up at fights after their over. Soon the wolf-crying routine will just get you laughed at. Better rethink your strategy. Your ex-members are quickly filling the ranks of our sister pledges.

December 31, 2002 10:27 am ET (#100)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

Dam that was longer than i wanted.

December 31, 2002 10:45 am ET (#101)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

But still FCA, there is alot of truth in that

December 31, 2002 11:14 am ET (#102)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

chaosz, just quit hitting my dogs :)

December 31, 2002 11:43 am ET (#103)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

I guess the morale of the long story is: pledges that talk to me directly and are reasonable, can get what they want. I even tried to talk to pomme once long ago about being friends with GF! Lol he was less than receptive (STILL pissed about his princess dying i guess). And we're cool with DOM now that they have one clear prince and I'm not being lied to by non-leaders.

I'll be looking for mailpapers tonight...

-Biz

December 31, 2002 11:48 am ET (#104)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Just when it seemed cooler heads might prevail....
*
I dun hunt FCA or anyone anymore. The Eolee/Sharp incidents were months ago. I am sorry to see Eolee go. He was a fun opponent with some perspective. Something you sorely lack, Biz.
*
Even NASH's leaders have granted FCA some of the credit it deserves. But, what's ur response? More of the same vitriol. Sheesh, dun you ever get tired of that same old harangue? And your website is still a disgrace to working women around the world.
*
You attack me, I'll cancel ya all day long. That's what mages do. Duh! NC has seen to fit that mages can't even hold a decent sword, nerfed our ac, I miss 1/3 of the time I even swing. My silly lil +7sof ain't gonna hurt u guys. I realize that. But you gotta bad mouth me cause I stand up for my pledge. Fine. Hunt me, not our noobs.
*
Until Biz's learns he ain't Lord British or some other demi-god, it'll be a long bloody war. You may win most, but you won't win em all. And you'll waste more time than we do. While ur looking for us, we're hunting and getting stronger and spreading NASH heals, hastes and goodwill (for the most part) while growing. Your bellicose meanderings will ring more hollow as the months roll on. NASH will continue to grow, and you'll continue to stagnate. I would hope for better for some of the FCA ppl I know and respect.
*
And uh, btw Biz, crying wolf is when there is no enemy. FYI, free of charge. ^&^

December 31, 2002 12:12 pm ET (#105)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

Seoul, when SOL shows up now, there is no enemy, just the dead NASH on a quiet battlefield. That's the point. We vanish into the landscape while SOL asks "which way'd they go?" Thus the crying wolf metaphor. How long do you think SOL will keep blowin bteles to come res NASH?

*

Don't brag about cancelling people and escaping. End someone, then we'll talk. Just because a hit goes bad doesn't mean you won. I remember you cancelling one of our knights near chao temple a few times, right before you assumed the position. Long, bloody war? Not since we fought SOL at the bridge (was NASH even there?) has there been blood on our side. We can happily end you all year, and level and make money in the process. You forget, it's what we do, nothin new to us. And how can FCA stagnate and NASH grow when your people are quitting to join our sister pledges (SS on our site)? If it's to be a war of attrition, I can win that one too. If you're real quiet, you can hear your credibility falling.

*

Also, don't let your battlefield emotions affect your policy or politics. (not that I should be speaking to you as if you represent NASH, as far as I know you don't) I talk about the battle, which you are losing, on one hand. Then on the other, I talk about the reasons peace has failed between our pledges. If you could discuss them separately and reasonably, you could contribute to a productive discussion. I have invited a dialogue. It's up to your leaders if they want to join it.

*

My website is a response to yours. You had a section dedicated to us long before I even noticed. 2 pics of Indavisual were all that were on my site (which I failed to update for moths BTW) in the interim. They were there because he was a jerk, not because he was NASH. Ask anyone, he was a wannabe PK/griefer/etc that deserved the ending he got. Now the website is a scoreboard to your failings as a pledge. It stays up, and grows in size, until i'm satisfied that NASH is not bothering FCA (ingame, on boards, on website), or eliminated completely.

*

I'm not lordbritish, im not a demigod. I'm the Prince of the pledge that's killing you. Bellicose or not, it's the truth. I don't go for style points. You want it over? Tell your leadership to get their act together. When someone with authority from NASH talks to me, then they'll find out how to end it.

Biz

December 31, 2002 02:00 pm ET (#106)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Is anyone more full of himself in all of Aden (Dep)?
*
I've challenged you to come end me, and you've failed. Your only recent attempt saw you venz. I merely stated that I'm not attacking anyone and that your attempt failed. That's not bragging. That's the truth. I dun play the game to pk and hassle other ppl. I leave that peculiar enjoyment to you and yours. High pk count doesn't equate to any superiority in our pledge. I enjoy the occasional pvp battle, but you take it to the absurd extreme and ruin it for many.
*
Besides, ending you wouldn't make any difference with you anyway. Those are just more empty words. Do you take Severn, ChaosZ or anyone else whose ended FCA anymore seriously. Of course not. (And whether you accept it or not, FCA has ended to NASH w/o SOL). And I dun need to end you or anyone else to say my piece.
*
"Now the website is a scoreboard to your failings as a pledge. It stays up, and grows in size, until i'm satisfied that NASH is not bothering FCA (ingame, on boards, on website), or eliminated completely."
*
But no one can "bother" FCA? Yep, that's Biz logic alright. Arrogant from the start. One rule for FCA, and another rule for everyone else. FCA can have "professional pks," but dun touch a hair on Biz or his boys.
*
Actually, I should thank you for front page posting on your website. Being opposed to your game-play has only served to help us. NASH is already gaining a name for standing up against a prince with nothing better to do than rant and rave for respect that he can't earn, no matter how many ppl he and his followers end. You are more than welcome to anyone from NASH that chooses your style, such as it is. Anyone who wishes to be associated with the likes of you deserves what they get.
*
Thanks for not following up on this thread like you said, Biz. You're a true man of your word.
^&^

December 31, 2002 03:30 pm ET (#107)
calix3
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-17-02

OK NASH YOU ARE THE WORST PLEDGE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF DEPARDIEU.
I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY TO YOU NEWBIES.
1. DO NOT EVER ATTACK ME IN MLC AGAIN OR I WILL END YOU AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS 5v1, ONE OF YOU STILL VENZ, AND THE REST END, STUPID NEWBIES.
2. DO NOT THINK YOU ARE GOOD. YOU FIGHT ON A 10V1 SCALE BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS GANGBANG PEOPLE WITH YOUR NEWBIES.
3.YOU ARE TELLING BIZ TO GO OWN A CASTLE, WELL YOU DONT OWN ONE. YOU OWN THE SHITTIEST THING IN THE GAME. WHY WOULD NEONE WANT A PIECE OF SHIT CASTLE LIKE THAT TRASHY CLUBHOUSE.WAIT, ITS NOT EVEN A CASTLE, ITS A FORTRESS, STUPID NEWBS.

IF I EVER HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING YOU AGAIN ANYWHERE, YOUR MEMBERS WILL END, I USUALLY DONT KILL NEWBIES, BUT I WILL MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR YOU.

December 31, 2002 03:52 pm ET (#108)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

Great work..another person attacking us while we try to level....I sure hope all of us lower level NASH members get compensation for all the expirence we lost during this.

December 31, 2002 04:29 pm ET (#109)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

You gain no respect targeting the newers pledges.. instead you attack our versions of FCA4EVER or RDC.. the funny thing is that Biz's knight is in EVERY noob-end SS. If this is your only way to dignify yourselves cos you cant end higher lvls, then so be it. If you dont stop, RDC is going to be my official pasttime. I don't speak for the rest of my collegues, but I know many feel the same way. Lotta lvl 20 and 30somehings.

Uhm, no, I can't recollect many SOL involvement kills. A couple instances, yes.. that's cos some1 hit a NASHG during a SOL fight.. a NOOB move... All respect to the ended, but we ended Tal, Circus, Hand, Pinchy, Aegir, and venzed almost everyone else without SOL around (the 1's I listed are ones I killed or was ivolved in ending/venzing.. this isn't to mention the other incidents when I'm not around). Are you blind or do you HAVE to lie on boards to feel better about yourselves?

End some1 notable. Your new photos dont have any 40+.

If you read and processed this whole post Biz, then contact me with a photo of yourself being enlightened.

December 31, 2002 04:57 pm ET (#110)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

I don't take pics anymore :) hence the no 40+'s hehe

December 31, 2002 05:00 pm ET (#111)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

Would you guys try and end the war already? I'm not a newb to this game in the knowledge sense, but I am a low level...And the way you are acting about FCA ending all of us, sure shows how much you care..Step up and do something or else I will end up leaving NASH too...To quote the website "The FCA stuff was removed from this website days ago. So they killed one of our newbs- whoopee!
"

YES WHOOPEE! I go to college, have a job, etc....I don't have 4+ hours per day to play, so when I get on, I like to hunt. Dying all the time because it's in the best interest of my "leaders" to start wars...Come on guys, I'm really tired of being in a war, that most of us had nothing to do with..I know I only speak for myself, but I bet other lvl 30's and 40's feel the same way I do.

December 31, 2002 05:35 pm ET (#112)
Vines
Loyal Fan

45 posts
10-14-02

hmm, i wonder why the spotlight didn't mention the average NASH lvl/+x weapon/ac. haha, its full of lvl 30~45 members wielding +1~6 rapiers. NASH, i've seen some of your fights against FCA, and honestly...you guys don't stand a chance against them. Throw all 120 newbies out there, sure you may end 4-5 FCA, but your losses will tower over FCA's. Your members will soon realize that it ain't worth it, dying 2~3 times a day, and hunting in fear. I say let the war begin, and lets see these NASH newbies back up all the smack they've been venting. My brother is in SOL, and he has helped NASH when they came crying. But let me tell you, i know quite a few members who are getting sick of backing up a newbie pledge. They care nothing about NASH, they just signal FCA's whereabouts. Dun be surpised NASH when momma and daddy beat the shit out of you during the next battle. Come to mlc 3~4 NASH, i'll be waiting in coi.

December 31, 2002 06:36 pm ET (#113)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

We care, Preebs, thas why we stand up for ourselves. The path of least resistance is to let punks tell you how, when and where to play. They tell you you are on "parole." Why even play under such conditions?
*
Wis me and I hunt with you. Mass tele will keep us both alive. There is no shame in venzing to fight another day, regardless of what some might say. I've seen the best venz. It's just part of the game.
*
Thas my opinion. I do not speak for anyone else here. I am tired of pond scum trying to dictate to me how I will play. If you like being dictated to, join a pledge that cowers to FCA. Otherwise, suck it up and tell us who's picking on noobs, as if we'd didn't already know--the usual suspects.
*
BUT, if u c NASH noobs popping off, pls let me know. Either I fix it, or I leave too. Things are bad enough already.
*
Cheers & Happy New Year to all...even to our beloved pond scum. ^&^

December 31, 2002 07:27 pm ET (#114)
redpig
Loyal Fan

283 posts
10-15-02

quote from the first post:
"cool~~oO.Oo"


it's so good that FL/SoL is not involved~~o.o

December 31, 2002 08:50 pm ET (#115)
Morticae
LC Reporter

103 posts
09-25-02

I see a lot of you NASH talking about how we only end your newbs. It seems you don't really care about them...
That's odd, but hey, I guess you don't care if your interview was a load of crap. So keep not protecting your inferior members and I'll be more than happy to keep killing them.
Oh hey, what level was that Linguini chap? Just curious as to whether he's one of your newbs or not.
[IMG]http://www.mindspring.com/~swehmeier/Lineage/Luginie.jpg[/IMG]

December 31, 2002 08:58 pm ET (#116)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

There we go, true FCA colors showin' now. End noobs for sport. I have challenged you to come after me, but noooo. Biz makes one failed attempt then reverts to hunting noobs. Gotta stick to the easy ones, eh. Thas true FCA form. Hit the low hanging fruit. If anyone wondered what sorta folk you are, there's no question now.

December 31, 2002 09:20 pm ET (#117)
Morticae
LC Reporter

103 posts
09-25-02

By the way... I don't care about NASH. I don't have any feelings towards them one way or the other. However, once FCA commits, the entire pledge commits-not just the webmaster. Think about that for a while. You may have the numbers, but we have the dedication, experience and (I would be willing to wager) the equipment.
I don't want to tell you where to hunt. I don't really even want to end your newbs. But I also don't care enough about you to research which of you ARE newbs before I kill them. If you don't want your newbies to suffer because of your little pollitical posturing attempt, put them in another pledge with a different icon and I might *think* about excluding them.

December 31, 2002 10:04 pm ET (#118)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

couldn't ever find you seoul :)

the only people (besides shin0bi who tele's well) that I see out are the newbs.. and i don't hit 99% of them

December 31, 2002 10:45 pm ET (#119)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

In a sorta non-related topic.. go look at Biz's picture on the FCA website.. he reminds me of wolfman jack =P thats not meant offensively. wolfman jack rocks.. but i had to do some research before i was convinced that he wasn't wolfman jack.. also, i think biz has stolen one of my cats.. he has pics of his cats and i swear one looks just like mine..

its is new years eve.. i just want to let it be known that when all's said and done, i hope NASH, FCA, and everyone else have a kickass new years.. =)

HAPP HOLIDAYS! peace on earth and good will to all of my brothers and sisters.
tell me who you are and what your favorite beer is 'cos i'll drink 1 for ya!
1 more hour til 2003!!

December 31, 2002 10:48 pm ET (#120)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

except not happy new years to vines.. all pledges have newbs.. and if you're in fca, not only does FCA have a couple, but RDC too.

im jk, happy new years bud.
come try to end me, im aarthin.. ill show you what types of weapons/ac nas has.

January 01, 2003 12:55 am ET (#121)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Happy Lineage New Year to all!! Even the guy who stole a tone-deaf-but-still-funky rap artist's name.
^&^
Southwest corner of owl. If I'm hunting, I'll be there 90% of the time. Bring ur coi. I luv getting to poo scared outta me when u guys pop out.

January 01, 2003 02:02 am ET (#122)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

I'm still wondering if all of us "Noobs you so care about" will get and compensation for the dying at the hands of FCA? You say you care, so show it. and if you do care about NASH so much, how come our new alliance with ElutheraSin hasn't been placed on our webpage. I don't think I should need protection when I go hunt. I thought protection would come from our "leaders" caring for us and stopping anything bad before it started to explode ..Hail to Nash?? soon to be Hell with Nash

January 01, 2003 02:06 am ET (#123)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

coi gone seoul :) only time I saw you there, was with a big group ^^

Happy <freaking> New Years :)

January 01, 2003 02:34 am ET (#124)
KnightFyen
Loyal Fan

14 posts
11-25-02

Happy New Year people!

January 01, 2003 03:06 am ET (#125)
Preebs
Loyal Fan

34 posts
01-10-02

Glad to hear that you agree with me Fyen. Honestly I've been thinking about leaving. Maybe then I can hunt in peace. Maybe I can find a pledge where the Prince/princess will talk to the members. One thing I can't most in a pledge is when the prince has a high level character besides their prince. They feel it's ok to play them more than the prince. I feel my time in NASH is drawing near.

January 01, 2003 04:09 am ET (#126)
LiQuIdRaVe
Loyal Fan

6 posts
04-23-03

Nash,you're newbs...I can't stand seeing you everywhere..I'm going to pk you all when I regain my levels from being hacked.

January 01, 2003 05:31 am ET (#127)
redpig
Loyal Fan

283 posts
10-15-02

I miss raves@,@;;
haven't go raves since I started lineage~~~o.o;;;

January 01, 2003 11:46 am ET (#128)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Dang, Rave, I help you and ur friend in owl, res ur friend, you say "damn good mage" and then poop on us here just cause u c a lot of us? Go figure.
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Lord, I dun recall being there with a large group but once when we fought a little on the eastern edge. Ask Noidaz, enchant3r and others who hang out there. I'm there all the time by myself. Best place in Aden to gain xp for me. No summon, just me taking out packs. Sure wish turn undead worked on pcs. Only killer spell NC let's us have.
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Nobody keeping u two in NASH. You dun understand principle, not my fault. I'll help you in the field like all good pledges do, but we ain't ur wet nurse. BTW, Knight, it's hard for me to understand after all that's been written here why you think NASH wants this war. The only way out at this time is to say FCA is better. If you are so inclined, I'm sure Biz will be happy to take you. Thas my opinion, nuthin' official.
^&^

January 01, 2003 12:09 pm ET (#129)
vaIiantguppy
Loyal Fan

5 posts
12-18-02

I wonder if Nash still remembers me from OT seige ;)

January 01, 2003 03:24 pm ET (#131)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

Seoul Ive been looking for you nonstop. And so has the entire pledge. Come up out of the caves and show your face. I've got all the big hunting spots staked out with assasins and no one reports seeing you.

As for hitting newbs. We hit everyone we see, without exception. So it's a matter of who is online and hunting most. You may know what your stupid emblem color scheme means, but the rest of the server doesn't know, or care. When I see how long it took for various people to end, thats when I figure our how high level they were. And Im sorry to have to end lower levels. I usually try to res them and let them tele away and chat with them about what happened. Im not angry with them personally and I make sure they know that.

When I drop you though, don't expect a res.

January 01, 2003 04:12 pm ET (#132)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

Fyen are you editing your posts?

January 01, 2003 04:25 pm ET (#133)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

Injekto, weren't you and Severn insinuating that I was a child? My beard in that pic was grown over a long weekend. I can't normally have one, so I have to grow it while my GF is visiting her family in Sweden. When she comes back, it has to be gone. I've had at least 20 full bears in my adult life. So I guess you know I'm not a child.

Wolfman jacks beard was longer, darker, and scragglier. He also had a much rougher face (i may catch him in 30 years). When I was a kid, I listened to him on our AM RADIO. It was the only radio we had at the time. (another hint to date myself) I trim mine with a #3 tapering to a #2 at the ears depending on how long i have my hair on top.

But I'm glad you like my beard. And my cat. Really.

January 01, 2003 04:47 pm ET (#134)
redpig
Loyal Fan

283 posts
10-15-02

so much hate~~o.o;;

January 01, 2003 05:17 pm ET (#135)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

I been trying to give you another shot, Biz. I keep chking for you when I'm on and all I see is Circus. Holidays are a busy time for a single parent, and I haven't been on a much as usual. I'm flattered that you've been looking, tho.
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No. I expect no res, no quarter, no mercy. You will have earned it to end me, and I'll grant you that if it ever happens. But where's the sport in ending noobs? I just dun get that one. A challenging fight, hunting and strategy are one thing. A few hits to end a noob? ^&^
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Ah, I think we're gettin around to the next level, Red. This lvl is boring us all, eh.

January 01, 2003 05:57 pm ET (#136)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

We're not doing it for sport. Don't you get it?

January 01, 2003 07:22 pm ET (#137)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

FCA/NASH fight.. FCA waited in town 'til a score of LU showed up. Schatch ended dropping some new cross training +5 power gloves! I don't care that LU (Paldo) showed, but it was funny that a SOL or 2 were tagging with us and we told em not to help so we wouldn't have anything to be thrashed about... and then LU shows.. hehe. why LU attacks? i dunno.. owell. =\ schatch (sp?) is gonna be sore, but Tommy/Kannabis got my +7yumi way back so it all comes full-circle..
2 -40lvl (NOT +) NASH ended, but the money from the drop should help em come back stronger.

Eh, maybe i should have said a younger wolfman.. I say you take a #2 to your sideburns and cheeks, then let your goat grow to the point where it can be braided with a pricetag attatched to it. you'd look like rick neilson from cheap trick, which is cool.. but this look can be easily misused- for if you wear a cnstruction hat youll look like a modern day george michaels (or aging village ppl).. be original, yet weary..=P
see if your cat (the darker 1) answers to the name "8ball" you cat-theiving banshee.
<all done with tongue in cheek>

happy new years all.

January 01, 2003 10:37 pm ET (#138)
Morticae
LC Reporter

103 posts
09-25-02

heh heh, yeah 2 ended. Eventually your allies showed up and cleaned up your little mess. The PGs were unfortunate, however (A guard's work, not NASH).

January 02, 2003 01:07 am ET (#139)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Its real simple. We are not "picking on a weaker pledge" here. we tried to be diplomatic with a pledge that we had at a state of detente. Biz is 100% correct here on that and on the rest of the timeline. What was Nash's response ? They rejected it. All attempts at a diplomatic solution were met with scorn by the Nash webmaster who purports to be the voice of the entire pledge. This gets us to where we are today.

Now, you Nash members may be upset that your newbs have been ended repeatedly but hey, you can't tell who's newb and who isn't until you count how many hits it took to get the Nash person to "assume room temperature". This brings me to my next point.

If the Nash leadership truly had its members interests in mind they would've told Severn to cut it out and talked to Biz. But they didn't do it. They profess that they are innocent in how this "war" came about but they deliberately provoked us into it and now are complaining long and loud to the entire server about how mean the FCA "bullies" are. Its like the boy who pokes a stick into the killer bee nest and then is shocked when they come out, then swarm and sting him.

Nash leadership is still tone-deaf to its weaker members. Its own weaker members are already tired of this and are disenchanted with the leadership. Yet the Nash princes hide behind "principle" and false innocence by stating "we won't be told what to do and where to hunt, etc..." and acting like they can get the entire server to beleive the m b/c oh no FCA is the "PK" pledge and we're not so who would u believe ??? They have caused this to happen when all the while they could've avoided this in the first place simply by listening to those in FCA who tried to talk to them. So the ranks of Nash will continue to diminish as those people who joined in recent months get tired of losing XP day after day after day.

All b/c the Nash leadership is either too proud or too tone-deaf to the needs of their pledge. Say what you want about Biz, but he ALWAYS listens to us when we talk to him. He is generally concerned with each one of us and takes on the role as a "servant-king" to the pledge. Alas, I wish Nash leaders actually acted the same way.

And yes, I've overheard SOL members talking about what a pain it is to have to keep coming to bail Nash out of every fight they are in. You Nash princes forget, FCA has been doing this for a VERY long time and we are quite good at PvP and are used to fighting SOL and the alliance. And while you think that you are all getting stronger you forget that we do so as well.

Happy New Year to everyone (including Nash)!!!


OPEN LETTER TO NASH - if you are a Nash member and you are sick of this I would tell you to talk to your leadership about ending this war and tell them to stick their pride somewhere else (remember that "pride goeth before the fall"). But since it appears that they do not listen to their membership and would rather use their members as shields and as cannon fodder to their egos I would instead suggest you find a pledge that cares more about you than it does about its prince's political appearances. Hopefully, the Nash leadership will realize what they need to do to end this and they do it quickly for your sake.

January 02, 2003 01:59 am ET (#140)
Beff01
Loyal Fan

2 posts
01-02-03

Hail Nash

This is Beff
Long time no see
First of all I would like to thank Lineagecompodium for interviwing my pledge.

Well I have to offense against FCA people but I will stand by my pledge when they need me.

Hail nash

PS: hey Minsterd i will be back soon

My char in DEP
(Beff) elf
(Yojeung)Magi
(mabup)Knight

January 02, 2003 02:32 am ET (#141)
KnightFyen
Loyal Fan

14 posts
11-25-02

Typhoon, that's too long! I'm not going to read it! :P

January 02, 2003 02:59 am ET (#142)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

way too long
simple solution to this game conflict:

beat the living shit out of each other in the game...!!!
Battle Royale of NASH and FCA members....!
Let blood spill all over the ground as dead bodies begin to pile up
WAR WAR WAR!

now...don't tell me shit about communicating comes first before violence garbage
for one thing, it is clear both pledges r sworn enemies
second of all, this ain't rl, ppl aren't actually getting hurt
so just whack, slash, poke, stab, zap them to death
Gang Bang them all.....!
cuz if we were all friends and all worked together and had fair share in everything...
gosh....that would be.......boringggggggggggggg
what makes lineage so good is the enemies u make...
the dramatic duels and fights we all engage in and defending the honour of your pledge or betraying to create tension among the pledges...

this is the way to go in the world of lineage....^_^

Edit: Way to go NASH....I see the prince and members all blood red....hahha
kill kill kill!!!!

January 02, 2003 10:41 am ET (#143)
Crackerman
Loyal Fan

34 posts
11-12-02

Timeline:
1.FCA was peaceful with NASH
2.NASH posts inflammatory rhetoric on their website about FCA
3.FCA gives them 2 days to remove it or we would assume that the war is back on
4.NASH changes website the same day, however it is more insulting to FCA then it was before
5.FCA assumes this means war is back on
6.WAR

Where do we go from here?

Personally, it has been a little sad. I guess I haven't run into many higher level NASH. The ones I have hit have venzed without even retaliating, and a lot have venzed as I approached. I do not feel comfortable hitting newbs, but the most prevalent question on my mind is: Why would a pledge full of newbs talk SMACK about a pledge of mostly higher (I said higher, not high, or highest,) level characters with uber PvP experience? No matter what else is said about this conflict, it is a fact that it was irresponsible by the NASH leadership to allow this situation to go this far. It is not fair to your newbie characters that want no part of a war with FCA. They want to come home from work/school unwind from a stressful day by logging onto Lineage and gaining some experience and making enough cash to buy the nzel they want to put on their +2 COP. They do not want this war. Leaders should consider the feelings of all of his/her people.

One other thing. The big fight were Tal, Knight, Vor and others ended.....
Aegir was the only one to end to NASH. The others ended to FL/SOL. That is a fact.

January 02, 2003 11:24 am ET (#144)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

ROFLMAO - I just read Severn's pack of lies ("last word"). What is funny is that he doesn't even realize what a joke Nash is for trying to take credit for ending a few of our members in one battle. One ... exactly one ... person died to Nash. The rest died to alliance members. What is even funnier is that he states that FCA gets battered by rag dolls by SOL and the alliance everytime we fight them. Well, tell that to the 6+ alliance members who "assumed room temperature" a few days after that fight where Nash (including its high level members) hid behind the alliance b/c they were too weak to fight. Its funny, Aaarthin continues to slam FCA but never has FCA taken credit for a kill that we did not earn on our own.

The lies that Nash leadership continues to foment is proof positive why this war has occurred and why it will continue. SOL knows us and knows that we fight hard and knows that we are dangerous. We've been ending SOL and other alliance members for a long time and the "score" is definitely in our favor. They (the alliance) also have our respect too even though we are at war with them. Nash no longer has my respect as its leaders have continued to lie and spread disinformation about the genesis of this conflict and have repeatedly lied about FCA and trashed us well before this new round of hostilities.

Yes ... Severn, despite what you want to believe your pledge is getting a bad rap with the rest of the more established pledges on Dep by starting a fight that you cannot fight on your own. You ask why we waste our time on such an "inconsequential" pledge. It is because of the lack of respect and the trash talking and slamming that your pledge did before this new round of hostilities. We can battle the alliance while we kill you off at the same time. The fact that you have been hard to find recently leads me to believe that you realize this as well.

You say this war is a result of FCA egos. I would respond that it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with [to paraphrase a line from a movie] the fact that the egos of you and others in leadership roles in Nash have written checks that your pledge can't cash. You had some run-ins with one or two of our members where your members hit ours unprovoked. This lead to individual retaliationg by our members who were hit. Then your website starts insulting and slamming us and spreading lies and falsehoods. You were approached by members of FCA to get you to post the truth and to find out why you guys were becoming hostile after months of "detente" between our pledges. Many FCA had suggested forming closer ties to you guys after we had been on the same side in battles with the alliance. Your response was to ridicule our emissaries and post more trash on your website. This lead Biz (who had earlier asked us for restraint in retaliating against you - thus putting to rest your pledge's lies that Biz is a warmongerer with an inflated ego who just wants to "pick on you") to now demand that you remove the stuff on your website or we would rethink our "no hit" status with you. You told us to go to h*ll. And this lead us to our current war. A war that could have stopped had one ... just one of your leadership talked to Biz and realized that you, Nash, were at fault for provoking this war. Alas, common sense appears to not be so common in the Nash leadership where this is concerned. I'm hoping it returns but I can see now that your leadership is more concerned with keeping up appearances and trying to avoid looking weak by acquiescing to our demands than it is about listening to its membership. And yes the rumblings from your membership are far and wide, you just haven't been listening. Your words to the effect of "so they killed one of our newbs - whoopee" shows how inconsequential your fellow pledge members are to your own ego.

Its not too late. All you guys need to do is speak with Biz and discuss this thing like you should've done from the beginning.


As for us only ending Nash newbs ... BTW - wasn't Aarthin lying dead not too long ago ?? LOL I guess he's just another Nash newb huh ??

January 02, 2003 11:38 am ET (#145)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Such insight....
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So NASH is all bad, and FCA is all good. Inflammatory rhetoric is the sole domain of NASH. FCA is kind, considerate and respectful. FCA's ranks are complete with many non-Americans, while NASH talks of lopping of the heads of Korean mages. NASH boasts of it's professional pks, while FCA has banished it's pks. FCA is a young, open, growing pledge with lots of newbs naturally, while NASH is an established pledge with lots of higher ups that like to exhibit their strength by intimidation and pk'ing, especially newbs. NASH has had a website for years and on the front page is a caveat for all those in Lin who hate us. And FCA knows all NASH ppl besides the leadership wants to kowtow to FCA and never, ever, ever stand up for themselves.
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Gosh, your correct. I had it all wrong all along. I take back everything negative I ever said about FCA. Please forgive me.

January 02, 2003 11:49 am ET (#146)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

Seoul:

Had you decided to actually read my posts instead of responding with sarcasm you would see that my timeline and facts are correct. Nash is simply hiding behind the fact that FCA has PK'ers in its pledge so it thinks it can start a war with us and make it look like we were the aggressors. Believe me I don't like having to end you guys either but you have provoked us and pushed us into this. Your sarcastic comments are proof-positive that this is the line of B.S. that you are feeding to anyone on the server who will listen. Assuming they are still listening to a pledge that starts fights by slamming another pledge and then runs and hides under the stairs while a stronger pledge does its work for it.

BTW - FCA has non-americans, and non-PK'ers so before you speak please get your facts in order.

January 02, 2003 12:47 pm ET (#147)
Crackerman
Loyal Fan

34 posts
11-12-02

Seoul:

You are missing the point.
We never said that we did not post inflammatory comments about pledges on our site. If we post materials implying that we are at war with a pledge and that pledge tells us to remove it or they will assume that we are in fact at war and we basically tell them to eat sh*t (which is what we would probably do) then it would be us that started the war.
The difference is that our members have grown accustomed to being hit/cancelled when we hunt. Biz makes certain decisions knowing where the pledge stands on this issue. Do you make decisions based on your pledges feelings?

January 02, 2003 12:54 pm ET (#148)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

We're no angels, and we don't claim to be. If I see a light blue person hunting, and I think I'll get a drop, that person might just die.

That has nothing to do with the current situation. Your attempt at character assasination is futile. yea we PK, and yea we PK'd nash long ago. But it's your leadership's false bravado that is causing this war. Maybe they're still smarting over past battles?

Enjoy the rest of your "practice"!

January 02, 2003 01:45 pm ET (#149)
SeoulSurvivor
Loyal Fan

55 posts
09-12-02

Thanks for the honesty, Biz. Now my turn. It may not matter to you much and I would understand why, but it is sincere.
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I have read your timelines, and they are by & large accurate. The outlines point out what you understand to be our transgressions. I get it. And I realize that although I'm not out there popping folks, some NASH have. I realize that website wars have fueled the in-game wars.
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What Biz has finally owned up to and your timelines omit is that FCA is every bit as responsible for this fight as we are. It seems to me that our big f-up is that we have fought back as a young pledge with newbs, thereby placing them at risk. Use of alliances is part of the game and should remain so. We are a new pledge relatively and in all honesty need some help sometimes in dealing with you guys.
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The verbal jousting here aside, if we didn't have so many newbs, I believe the tone of this would be different. I also believe all of NASH is tired of this round of fights, but we have some sense of honor, too.
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As this is my last post on this, I would like to apologize to Biz and all of ya'll for the personal slights, insults and put-downs. I have gotten caught up in the emotion, and poor judgement has gotten the better of me at times. I have undermined my own position by doing so. I want to play this game for years to come, and I actually do have friends within FCA, although they may not think the same of me anymore.
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I've also tried to at least be honest here. I have not knowing written something that I knew to be false. If I'm proved wrong, I will admit it openly. I've even asked a couple of FCA members who in NASH is attacking, aside from our usual suspects, in an effort to moderate things. I have not been able to do so.
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I do respect the abilities and persistence of FCA. I may not agree with your tactics, but they are not mine to agree with. I have tried to give ya'll a lil of the respect you deserve, but I should not have done so while at the same time qualifying it with negatives. You guys and gals are good. Damn good, damnit.
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I suspect ya'll be around for a long, long time, as I hope NASH to be.
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Again, my sincere apologies for the slights. My self-imposed exile will now commence. Hail NASH, Hail SOL, Hail GF, Hail FCA....Hail Lineage!
^&^
P.S. No, I dun think our pledge or I'm safe now. I'm still in Oren. I still expect to be attacked, but I won't be whining anymore. Cheers....

January 02, 2003 03:27 pm ET (#150)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

Hey seoul, nice post :)

the 'time-line' thing refers to me and the website... Aarthin was told that a member of your pledge was attacked BEFORE the website was updated with (FCA War?)... then while I was talking to him online, he told me the member had changed his story and the attack (at drakes I believe) was actaully AFTER the website had changed... misinformation (from everyone probably) hurts talks, but as far as I know, no one in nash (the 5/6 prince(ss)) have even tried to talk to biz (if so, apologies, Im not 100% up-to-date anymore) and this should be step 1

January 02, 2003 06:33 pm ET (#151)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

Biz (read this whole post.. dont get heated and skim)~

i think you misunderstand a few things.. that's okay, we all make mistakes.. i'm just saying, some sort of agreement WAS made.. i mailed you that fun stationary to get everyone to shut up on both ends and we were promptly put on "parole." so dont say an agreement was never acknowledged, cos that action right there proves very much otherwise (hits also stopped that very day). so, right after that, since we were taken off hit and such, it is VERY natural to assume pk attempts and such as war-actions. don't you see this? imagine this between 2 countries.. treaty, then a few people die at the hands of the other.. war action? yes.. severn posted aptly.. up until around that time we were still on parole (parole is for criminals and it offends us) and SS's with mean commentary under them, we figured you were game for that type of propaganda and could handle us reporting your pledges actions in an "entertaining" way. i mean, circus lops heads of koreans and that's sposed to be taken lightly and this isnt? get real.

now it's to he point where there's too much BS to even find a clear reason for this.. our newbs dont want this war, some of your members dont (and your noobs).. whereas you PK the members who say they dont know why this is happening and dont want to fight, i have LEFT your members like that alone.. dinsdale is the 1 name i remember (there are others, but im not trigger happy on SS's).. neoblue said he'd rather be left out and it's been honored as well as possible.. has dins and neo been hit? maybe attempted once, but we halted the horses on it as well as possible.. this leaves you no excuse to hit our members of pledges who you KNOW are largly noobs.. you say you cant take the time to single out a pledge- then how do we have the time to single certain members out?.. we devote the time to recognize the innocents and peacefuls amongst you, and you not respecting us that way is another point against you, sadly. you get way too heated, man.. got a stressful job or something? you seem toave the temper of a high school bus driver.

out of kindness, pls read this and come to terms that your lame slandering isnt correct.. some of your reasoning is off-kiltered.. and throughout time, maybe NASHs view on this is a tad skewed as yours.. this spotlight and BOTH of our webpages made people mad.. so instead of both being bullheaded, lets recognize why his is happening.. this doesn't lie exclusively on either side.

PS- Biz, at least your posts are readable.. pls shut typh up.. 90% of us who read the boards have all come to terns that typh makes NO sense and isn't worth reading (watch, hes gonna respond to this and i'm just gonna scroll right by.. time wasted). Typ, would you happen to be a certain Al Harris? =)


CRACKER.. your list of your timeline.. between steps 1 and 2 you missed a lot.
you huts are worse than the government.

MORT- it was NOT a guard.. the WHOLE fight took place near guards and Schat NEVER got attacked.. it was me and Noun who got him. He dueled noun, started ro run, and then 3 or 4 more arrows was all it took. end.

we've had SO MANY solo ends.. i say its not US using SOL as a shield, but YOU!! "uh, erm, you ended us.. BUT WITH SOL!" ego's again. and total BS.. every kill ive been in on was NASH.. even the SOL/FCA/NASH fv fight.. i took down 3 with ONLY help from NASH members. to those who dont have the balls to admit it, "cry baby cry.."

January 03, 2003 01:44 am ET (#152)
Lillianrill
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-27-02

Everyone's got a little bit of an ego here, methinks.........

I was there then the +5 PGs got dropped, and I can assure you, a guard had nothing to do with it, most (if not all) of the credit goes to Noun on that one (who was also getting mobbed by about 7 or 8 different mops at the time), mad props to that man, you're a beast.

I've been ended in this war (good job Knightbeauty, I'm waiting for the SS on FCA website), I've also ended FCA in this war (HandOfGod, Phenomenon), nothin personal, war is war, I'm enjoying myself.

I stood toe-to-toe with Sharp (who hits like a mac truck, BTW, had me pumpin clears like they were reds), I'm satisfied I got him to water (after pumpin a few clears himself) before KnightBeauty (or was it Talass?) assisted him and I had to venz. You're good, man.

All in all, I've had a great time, look forward to having more fun times (after I get my law back). = )

I still respect you guys, maybe moreso now that I've beat down and been beat down by ya.

My poor low-lev pledgemates, I feel bad for you guys, one of the reasons I've pushed to try to get an end to this war (but without losing face, that's very important).

But one thing FCA needs to realize, NASH princes DO listen to their members. It's tough for a low-lev to understand why they're fighting when they're on the ground, lying in a pool of blood, battle over before it even began. But it's time for NASH to lose some dead weight. If people want to leave, they can leave, they lack loyalty and honor if they do, and whatever pledge gets them next will find that out soon enough.

::::: get's off his soapbox :::::

Good luck NASH!! Good luck FCA!! Both have made this game more fun than it's been in months.

January 03, 2003 01:57 am ET (#153)
Lillianrill
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-27-02

Peace with "Parole" is NOT an option (it's soooooooo degrading, however you try to reason it). I'd rather die with a sword in my chest, than a white flag in my hand. I don't want this war, but I fight, and will continue to fight, as long as any of my brothers and sisters are harassed, attacked, cancelled or ended.

January 03, 2003 07:59 am ET (#154)
Lillianrill
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-27-02

There is this economic theorist who believes capitalist societies require war for economic growth.

I just heard a Tsu was dropped in TI by FCA.

+5 PGs, now a Tsu? NASH is growing fat off this war..............

January 03, 2003 09:18 am ET (#155)
Crackerman
Loyal Fan

34 posts
11-12-02

I did not know of the +5 PG drop, but as far as the +7 tsu drop goes, it was the ti guard that did the damage. I went from 600+ hp to 40hp in a couple of seconds from the same ti guard and i almost didnt get out. Shame on us for fighting NASH and the guards at the same time, especially ti guards. Our mistake.

January 03, 2003 10:47 am ET (#156)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

well thats parts of the game. =( if i or NASH had picked up the TSU id give it back to neoblue.. he didn't deserve to drop, he was talking peace. but biz (quahog) did end our defenseless mage/prince as all of NASH left the field in non-aggresion/peace.. buy your knight a tsu biz, that was low and it cost you.

your color's showed.

January 03, 2003 01:02 pm ET (#157)
Crackerman
Loyal Fan

34 posts
11-12-02

I agree it is definetely part of the game. Nice strategy on y'alls part.
Neo will be back in a tsu very soon. We look out for each other.

And it is apparent you know little about Biz.

January 03, 2003 01:29 pm ET (#158)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

+5 PG was dropped by an LU knight thats a personal friend of one of our knights. I wasn't there. The person said guard was shooting him (coulda been bow guard and thus not seen by all.)

The old peace was achieved by people in my pledge saying "im tired of hitting NASH, they're not worth it. They've agreed to XXX and YYY, let's stop hitting them." So I said yes, stop hitting them. That's not any kind of formal agreement. That's me managing my pledge in concert with my members wishes. Someone in NASH was speaking to one of my members, as opposed to me. And I trusted the information my member gave me.

And NASH has hit RDC in this war. So your claim to not hit our newbs is inaccurate.

Edited after Injekto added his latest post:

You think you know so much about fca and what goes on. You don't. But it's funny to listen to your theories!

January 03, 2003 01:36 pm ET (#159)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

i hope neo gets a tsu cos he's a nice guy. didn't deserve that, but it's the way of lineage.

i know little about biz cos he's shown me all i care to know. that was a cheap shot.. i'm not wagering for FCA's hurrah but i'd lose a couple of pegs of respect for him after that lame move.. after all is said and done, he proved a lot of us right about his ways and really uncooth tactics.. especially the day before we have talks that could end this. i've never seen eye to eye with biz, but there was a respect that one has for those he opposes.. i'm really searching hard for it after last night's incident. i'd ask for an apology for an attack against our unarmed mage/prince as we left on peaceful terms (it started when they were picking off our newbs at TI shop), but some1 who could commit this would never apologize. hit a turned back.. well, cheaters never prosper.

sidenote: neo~ you said fighting occured after NASH was insulting dinsdale. it wasn't NASH.. it was the very same newb mage who picked your tsu up. not NASH affiliated. i know this because while negotiating for the TSU, which was unsuccessful, he told me about it. sorry, man. the name was kromemage.

January 03, 2003 02:29 pm ET (#160)
FCA
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-29-02

You think you know what is being said in our chat. You think you know why we were in TI. You think you know why we waited to kill your people there? You're a pompous fool. Neo doesn't want or need liar's sympathy, so can it.

There were no *negotiations* going on there. TI was the place where nash had been hiding from annihilation (Hadn't seen any in OWL or FV for hours) so we went there. If you don't want to die, go into safe zone. If you want to talk to me, send me a mailpaper and get a hall in an Inn. Christ, youre dense.

Any fool that engages his enemy on a field of battle and then tries to talk, is bound to die. There is no truce or ceasefire as of now and there was none last night. Did you order him into the battle zone to "chat" between two armies with swords drawn? If so, you're a fool also.

Hide in TI, Hide in guarded areas. Eventually you have to hunt. When you do, I will feed your AC to a slime...

Oh and I don't give a rat's ass about your opinion of me. 3/4 of all people in NASH say you're a terrible leader. You only care about yourself. You don't know what's going on half the time--yet to claim to know whats going on even in other pledges! So when I want to know how I'm doing as a Prince, I'll seek the opinion of another prince, not you.

January 03, 2003 05:41 pm ET (#161)
Typhoon
Loyal Fan

61 posts
12-27-02

[Please scroll right on by Aarthin - since I know you're mad that I keep referring to your deaths to FCA]

LOL- Aarthin you crack me up man. My posts are readable and contain the very facts that you fail to provide your membership. The fact that you cannot bear to look at my posts indicates to me that my posts here serve as a mirror to your pledge leaders' stewardship and your past offenses.

Now, if you care to look inside yourself and understand why we are where we are and want to honestly do something about it for yourself and for your pledge, have MissKat speak with Biz.

There's alot of guys in Nash that I like, some I don't know too well and some [while they might even be friends in RL] that I don't care much for in-game due to many factors ... But you must understand that if and when this situation ends I will make every effort to get to know you and your pledge better so that we also have a personal and mutual understanding. Until then, we hit each other I guess and we'll continue to end Nash. I hope that when this is over we can forge close ties between our pledges (which I was suggesting before this dust-up between us occurred), but if not then Good Luck in Lineage and all it has to offer you ...

January 03, 2003 05:46 pm ET (#162)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

lol..

tables ae turned.. 3 or 4 fca gone cos they cant handle this.
you guys are impossible.. keep posting, i'm out.

biz, you're dumb. that's the only word to sum it up. go hang out at dollywood. we didn't hide, we were leaving you idiot. your actions led to your knights fall. you end an unarmed man, etc.. get it straight. youre not aden's punching bag for nothing.

January 03, 2003 08:30 pm ET (#163)
Vulgaria
Loyal Fan

84 posts
10-28-02

hey lilli how come you give me no credit for ending you? i had just as much to do with it as knightbeauty did!

January 03, 2003 08:46 pm ET (#164)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

Stick to the topic. If you want to start a new topic go to the official forums.

if you guys want to have a who-ended-who contest, why don't you kids run off to templar/official forums? This is Nash's place to shine :)

January 03, 2003 08:54 pm ET (#165)
Lillianrill
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-27-02

Vulgaria,

If you're HandOfTheGod (who was there and was ended, twice) you get no credit, he's nothing more than a cancel-bitch/grief-player. And if he does fight, he gets ended, quick, multiple times. That's one FCA who gets zero respect.

All I know is Knightbeauty knocked me to the ground, I've admitted that much, and given her credit for it, she faught well (I didn't, probably why I fell). If someone else was there, they weren't active in ending me enough to really give credit to, no offense. = )

January 03, 2003 08:57 pm ET (#166)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

aarth, who quit fca? hand got banned (disciplinary reasons) and I left on a voluntary mission :) (sounds good eh?)

Lill, vulg isn't hand and hand is no longer fca or under any protection from fca (atm) and you'd be suprised what an elf can do (being active enough to end you)

January 03, 2003 11:16 pm ET (#167)
Lillianrill
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-27-02

Nazh....

I wasn't really paying attention to anything other than the knight pimp-smacking me with their Tsu (those kind of things get and keep your attention), so I may be wrong, in which case, credit (albeit less credit) to Knightbeauty and Vulgaria for ending an elf 2:1. = )

Hand no longer FCA huh? He'll become as scarce as a COI drop now. Glad to see FCA is smart enough to get rid of bad apples like him, good job guys.

January 03, 2003 11:45 pm ET (#168)
KnightFyen
Loyal Fan

14 posts
11-25-02

Keep talking crap to each others? Talking about others' fault but not talking about yours'? Come on guys, we both had faults. Whoevers was bigger fault, end this war and be friendly each other. Like Typhoon said. We might be the good friend after this war. ( Peacemaker/War hater :P )

January 04, 2003 12:01 am ET (#169)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

Learn a lesson from me and SharpArrows. Worst of enemies, I now consider him a very good friend. Please, stop the fighting, or bring it somewhere else. This is, as I said before, Nash's spot to shine. You had your spotlight FCA, now let them have theirs.

January 04, 2003 01:28 am ET (#170)
Lord_Nazh
Loyal Fan

63 posts
02-10-02

Peace reigns now clues :)

January 04, 2003 08:38 am ET (#171)
ChaosZ
Loyal Fan

23 posts
09-14-02

With peace made, it seems that the posts will finally die down on here after 169 posts before peace! GL to all in Lineage! Congrats on peace to both sides!

January 04, 2003 12:21 pm ET (#172)
Injektilo
Loyal Fan

34 posts
12-26-02

war room shut down.
peace.
^^

January 04, 2003 01:54 pm ET (#173)
KnightFyen
Loyal Fan

14 posts
11-25-02

Mine will be the lastest post! 8)

January 10, 2003 07:23 am ET (#175)
NeOnRaVe
Loyal Fan

29 posts
12-10-02

lol nash pfft everytime i talk to my rl freind LiQuIdRaVe he allways has a story of ether killing one of your ppl or of how stupid you guys are...... sad that you got a spotlight actualy...very sad

January 22, 2003 02:27 pm ET (#176)
kwiver
Loyal Fan

106 posts
04-07-02

I think nash has acomplished more then ur pledge NeonRave and i think its sad u make remarks like these

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