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December 26, 2002 01:47 am ET - research by Anonymous
Episode 12 Monster Names/Levels
Now that the Korean Test server has Episode 12, the names for the monsters are released. Here are the ones that we didn't have a name for last time:

Monsters
Aden Doppleganger Bandit Boss Bandit #1 Cerenis Lich
Dancing Sword Bandit #3 Lesser Demon Bandit #4 Balrog
Gelatin Cube Bandit #2 Medusa

Also, Lineage Playforum (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051002&kid=3173) has the levels of all the boss monsters:

Lindvior - Level 87
Lich - Level 58
Balrog - Level 57
Doppleganger Boss - Level 50

I added these bosses to the monster guide, so you can see where they fit in against the other bosses, in terms of level. More tomorrow :)

December 26, 2002 01:57 am ET (#2)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

87? Newbie dragon!

December 26, 2002 01:57 am ET (#3)
SX_ACE
Loyal Fan

2 posts
11-01-02

i was right about half of them hahaahahhahaahah this ep is gonna own

December 26, 2002 01:58 am ET (#4)
TrendKill
Loyal Fan

94 posts
10-23-02

woot balrog

December 26, 2002 01:58 am ET (#5)
uselessmitch
Loyal Fan

132 posts
06-21-02

wth!! Balrog IS DIRECTLY OFF LOTR... there going to have to change the name .. They had to change Shelob to arachnevil

December 26, 2002 02:02 am ET (#6)
Frozendevil
Loyal Fan

24 posts
03-01-02

lots of stuff is off of LotR... orcs....

and the dancing sword is kinda like the dancing simitar from MTG

December 26, 2002 02:04 am ET (#7)
jokulhaupz
Loyal Fan

7 posts
09-17-02

I guess I waws right :o) Good Stuff NC

December 26, 2002 02:05 am ET (#8)
wingzerohero
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-06-02

s i c k

December 26, 2002 02:07 am ET (#9)
Yeildarb
Loyal Fan

179 posts
01-19-02

Re; uselessmitch [#5]

..urik hai shield to orc shield, ungoliant to arachnevil elder, blah blah blah. Of course it's from Tolkien. If it weren't for LOTR, NO fantasy game like this would be out now. They just changed some of the few things that they could change.

December 26, 2002 02:12 am ET (#10)
Nevbo
Loyal Fan

11 posts
12-12-02

balrogs are used in abunch of diffrent games not just the LoTR books and stuff.

December 26, 2002 02:12 am ET (#11)
killamage24
Loyal Fan

72 posts
01-05-02

the fellowship of the ring book does use the word balrog for it....uselessmitch is right...its spelled the same and everything..i just looked at the book.....

December 26, 2002 02:14 am ET (#12)
WaRLoRD
Loyal Fan

92 posts
01-28-02

Lesser Demon isnt a boss? Huh, prob means its gonna be pretty easy ^^

December 26, 2002 02:16 am ET (#13)
killamage24
Loyal Fan

72 posts
01-05-02

maybe balrog is a universal name for demon of the underworld

December 26, 2002 02:16 am ET (#14)
(MoB)#3 AD
Loyal Fan

27 posts
11-04-02

Amer could it be possible to get some screenshots of Aden Castle siege i wanna see that o.o

December 26, 2002 02:24 am ET (#15)
Meral
Loyal Fan

33 posts
09-11-02

if lich thing is lv 58 imagine how high that Gelatin Cube is

December 26, 2002 02:29 am ET (#16)
ToshidinGoblinGuy
Loyal Fan

28 posts
03-21-02

Orc, blarog and other names are not theft of lotr, these names have been around for ages, get a college dictionary, and you will find these names, do not call anyone a thief unless you have proof. why do you think the names are used? because it is widely known. NC merely buildt characters around a name, so before you flame stuff, make sure you can not be flamed.

December 26, 2002 02:31 am ET (#17)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

(MoB)#3 AD: The first Korean Test Server siege is on 12/30 at 10AM Korea time. After that, when the Korean fansites post pics, I'll get em :)

December 26, 2002 02:35 am ET (#18)
Francisco
Loyal Fan

1 posts
11-29-02

Cool sounds nice. Gelatin Cube looks really annoying. It makes me...hungry...

December 26, 2002 02:45 am ET (#19)
SkyLin
Loyal Fan

82 posts
04-20-02

i dont care wat its name is
its just gonna be cool havin new mobs

December 26, 2002 02:45 am ET (#20)
leroy
Loyal Fan

22 posts
09-26-02

is it just me, or does the gelatin cube look like it has one of those new imacs in it?
i guess i just have mac's and lin on the brain. :-> i wonder if all of these mops be in the new lands, or will some be added to existing area's? i look forward to more reports from korea!

December 26, 2002 02:49 am ET (#21)
killah
Loyal Fan

77 posts
09-08-02

wow...lvl 87...NOOB!! just jk...maybe it will be endable unlike the other ones...wait...im not sure...prolly not...still nice update. ^.^

December 26, 2002 02:52 am ET (#22)
TaosZ
Loyal Fan

200 posts
10-14-02

Level 87 ^_^ maybe will be able to kill it!

December 26, 2002 03:02 am ET (#23)
Alpines
Loyal Fan

48 posts
06-04-02

huk! just got off of Korean test server..... all i must say is wow...... they did a good job this time

December 26, 2002 03:05 am ET (#24)
SuperFreak
Loyal Fan

8 posts
09-17-02

To clear things up for people:

Names like Shelob, Uruk Hai etc. are UNIQUE to LOTR, meaning it is used in those books only, therefore NC had to make name changes due to copyright.

I dunno if Balrog is used in other things, we'll see.

December 26, 2002 03:07 am ET (#25)
SuperFreak
Loyal Fan

8 posts
09-17-02

oh and just because lindvior is level 83 doesn't mean that it is a newbie or dragon let alone killable.

December 26, 2002 04:06 am ET (#26)
Substance
Loyal Fan

186 posts
09-25-02

since ep12 is final, do we get all the spells?

December 26, 2002 04:16 am ET (#27)
M3GzX
Loyal Fan

19 posts
10-01-02

#26 Episode 12 ISNT final. there is 1 more episode then there will be a new lineage saga based around Lord British which will last till episode 18. After that there will be something else..lineage is an on going work in progress.

December 26, 2002 04:17 am ET (#28)
melanor
Loyal Fan

61 posts
10-15-02

balrog is used in many diffent things. one example that i can think of right now is a balrog is in one of the dnd settings (planescape setting i think). most of the mops that is listed as new mops being put in are from other things. but who cares if they use same name as other people do it dont matter if it isnt copyrighted

December 26, 2002 04:28 am ET (#29)
bigpeeler
Loyal Fan

129 posts
10-23-02

u kno dat balrog is gonna b a boss mop its jus da way it is... dam tootin... i mean look @ him... i thot dat Kelenis chic wuz a new female mage sprite but i guess it aint... o well did they say anythin about a new male knight sprite like how it looked in dop morph???

December 26, 2002 04:39 am ET (#30)
Engineer
Loyal Fan

16 posts
12-25-02

#27 They canceled that whole Age of British thing a long time ago. The Korean teams said there would continue to be more episodes after 12, meaning more than 1.
#28 Very good, but LOTR was into its second or third publishing by the time D&D was created. D&D borrowed alot from Tolkien.

I guess none of you knew, but J.R.R. Tolkien has names and creatures from LOTR copyrighted. That's why NCSoft had to change those names awhile back. The names (Balrog, Ugoliant, Shelob, etc.) are names that Tolkien himself created, using the elven tongue he also created for the books and the history of middle earth. Believe it or not, whether the monsters are similar to others or not, Tolkien made up nearly all the names you hear when you read LOTR.

Also, I was really hoping the Lich would be cooler. He looks like something out of a Final Fantasy game...

December 26, 2002 04:49 am ET (#31)
Cowboy
Loyal Fan

74 posts
10-02-01

balrog is from street fighter!! the boxer

December 26, 2002 04:58 am ET (#32)
flexy24k
Loyal Fan

215 posts
12-10-02

SWEET!!! I can't wait! EP12 is gonna be soooo tight!

Viva NC!!!

~K~

December 26, 2002 05:17 am ET (#33)
Toi
Loyal Fan

79 posts
09-21-02

woot we were right!!! balrog lich and gelatin cube haha :D

December 26, 2002 05:24 am ET (#34)
Toi
Loyal Fan

79 posts
09-21-02

for anyone who doesnt already know, balrog is not copyrighted, its open for anyone to use, if you played diablo 2 go to act 4 and go down the stairs from the fortress and kill things in that act, i garauntee somewhere in act 4 there are balrog's running around!

December 26, 2002 05:55 am ET (#35)
theperv
Loyal Fan

74 posts
10-11-02

Who cares if this name or that name was ripped off. Let me give balrog a new name...gorlab.

Also who cares if Tolkien created an 'elven tongue' this and unique language that.

Here's a 'tongue' for you... Cups his right hand under his left arm pit & flaps his wing to unflattering music.

December 26, 2002 06:14 am ET (#36)
Kyrrel
Loyal Fan

36 posts
10-13-02

Those of you who apparently "dont care" don't realize that its ILLEGAL, that is, if it were copyrighted, which i believe it isn't. THATs what we've been talking about, not whether or not "we care" about it being copyrighted. Just simply seeing if the names are final, or subject to change in the near future.

I'm sure after changing the Urukhai names and ungoliants and such, that NC has looked into the name Balrog this time. It's here to stay fellas.

December 26, 2002 08:17 am ET (#37)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

there was a balrog in Half Life o.o'

December 26, 2002 08:24 am ET (#38)
Yoshiki
Loyal Fan

667 posts
12-13-02

Elfs and orcs, are from nordic mithology, u know Thor,Odin etc..,that exist thousands of years before crist.
Balrog, hmm i dont know, maybe the name its not copyrighted but using Balrog to name a burning demon from the underground...well..not very wise.
Anyway good new mops ^_^

December 26, 2002 08:59 am ET (#39)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

This is somewhat off topic, but I've heard a rumor that ep 12 comes with an increase in the lev req for DK poly -- 55. Anyone got any info on that?

December 26, 2002 09:00 am ET (#40)
rapiersux
Loyal Fan

7 posts
03-10-02

gelatin cube's gonna be very tough cause it has the critical attacks like hitting with dice daggers

December 26, 2002 09:59 am ET (#41)
Elric
Loyal Fan

337 posts
10-29-02

i cant wait for it >.<!!

December 26, 2002 10:01 am ET (#42)
Yoshiki
Loyal Fan

667 posts
12-13-02

Why i always have 14 posts 0_0
Lol new castle means more delincuence, lots of bandits -_-

December 26, 2002 10:33 am ET (#43)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

many names come from myths and such
if it is an unique name and game company created
then yes, it would be copyrighting
but if it is from some old old book of ancient stories
so that is y many names r similar when it comes to monsters
don't understand y ppl always compare to other games
the name always comes from something older and such

the bosses r so hard....
it seems...
can't wait

December 26, 2002 10:56 am ET (#44)
Necromancers
Loyal Fan

76 posts
12-01-02

isn't that Gelatin Cube call Gelatinous Cube? i found that name on the Nue's Lineage

December 26, 2002 11:43 am ET (#45)
Orcide
Loyal Fan

162 posts
10-05-01

Balrog, demon, lucifer, lord of the underworld...

call him what u like, its still a cool monster and I WANT TO END IT !!!!

December 26, 2002 12:36 pm ET (#46)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

Balrogs and balrons (and any other alteration of those names) are usually used for elder or highlevel demons, lotr borrowed it from mythology, jesus christ you fanboys are almost fanatical when it comes to this stuff. Tolkien ripped off a ton of these things from history and myths and twisted them to work for the stories. Infact, if you look at any game or movie, you will see most things are taken from an already existing sources like mythology or history. Weither it be names of ships, weapons, people, or monsters.

December 26, 2002 01:17 pm ET (#47)
nanjinho
Loyal Fan

0 posts
12-23-02

this is crazy...
there lvl are extreamly high -.-;;
i hope they drop something good...

December 26, 2002 01:35 pm ET (#48)
SkeleMage
Loyal Fan

86 posts
10-12-02

cool ... i want ep 12 now !! why is 1st post always deleted ....

December 26, 2002 03:21 pm ET (#49)
Steelavenger
Loyal Fan

posts
10-25-02

balrog= LOTR Lich= MAgicTg , What kinda of fool is that? o yea i dunno ... LINEAGE IS BASED ON D&D MYTHOLOGY MORONS STOP TALKING ABOUT COPIRIGHTS ¬_¬
Thanx NCI for make this game better with a lot of new UltraCool monsters , stupid newbies talking a bout a newbie monsters .. sure they arent , Lindvior is a Dragon , hes level is weak but sure he got a strong attack who ends 30 players in a row ( enjoy it!!!!!!!!! ) Lich .. uhmm the blood brother of dk in a mage? OMG PLEAAAASE PLEAASEEEE !!!! , balrog.. umm The father of the demon ???? Please !!!!! PLEASEEEEEE!!!!! XD the bandits ... hopefully good exp sure and dopelgangers ... anywone wanna free maples form doppelgangers ? i want em ! And the church ... no one dreamed about a free exp after die at lvl 49 ???? i DREAMED IN IT!!!!!!!!!! and now i believe in :D
I see a new pk time in ep12 , good newbie drops kekeke , WEAK PLAYERS ENDED BE ME !!!!!!

STEELAvENGER.

December 26, 2002 04:19 pm ET (#50)
OriginalPrincess
Loyal Fan

1 posts
12-26-02

December 26, 2002 05:33 pm ET (#51)
Frozendevil
Loyal Fan

24 posts
03-01-02

whats the ip for korean test? o.0

December 26, 2002 07:48 pm ET (#52)
wickedliquids
Loyal Fan

32 posts
10-11-02

I thought the Arachnaevils came off the last Harry Potter movie - no?

December 26, 2002 07:53 pm ET (#53)
Mailan
Loyal Fan

79 posts
10-13-02

You cant get onto korean test unless you have a korean lineage account. Likewise, you cant get a korean account unless you have a korean social security number. You cant get a korean social security number unless you live in korea. therefore, you cannot play on ANY korean server unless you live in korea, or have a friend(s) who can make you an account

December 29, 2002 02:26 am ET (#54)
1andon1i
Loyal Fan

12 posts
10-17-02

i hate clowns theyre always evil lich = clown

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