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April 23, 2003 06:15 pm ET - research by amateras, Gunf

Dark Elf

Jude1004.com Lineage reports (http://lineage.jude1004.com/news/index.asp?pg=/news/view.asp&cts_id=5419) that the new class, while still unavailable, is now a choice on the character creation selection screen.

You can't actually play the new class, which is widely accepted to be Dark Elf, but you can pick its stats, which may give us some insight onto what type of character it is. Here is a summary of the existing classes and the new one:

Class STR DEX CON WIS CHA INT leftover

Prince 13 10 10 11 13 10 8

Knight 16 12 14 9 12 8 4

Mage 8 7 12 12 8 12 16

Elf 11 12 12 12 9 12 7

Dark Elf? 12 15 8 11 10 12 7

A few observations: the maximum STR is 19 (as opposed to 18 for Elf) and maximum CON is 15 (as opposed to 18 for Elf). The initial stats seem to indicate that the main attributes for this class will be STR and DEX - perhaps a well-rounded fighter with low HP? Time will tell.

Also, the description file (which was just junk before) has been updated on HK official v2.01 patch. Gunf was nice enough to email it in:

They were born to and lived their lives in darkness. One day, a much respected member of the tribes stood up as leader to challenge their beliefs and he spoke to them as follows. "This world must no longer soil our tribe with blood in meaningless wars. Using our own methods, we will defy the ones who have destroyed order in this dark world and replaced it with chaos." That challenged the core of how the tribespeople had lived up until that moment. Those who followed his ideals ended up being chased away and fled to remote regions. They set up in a location, far from other civilizations, living on the edge of light and darkness...

April 23, 2003 06:17 pm ET (#1)

ONEOFDAZZZ
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21 posts
02-03-03

the truth is coming soon then?

April 23, 2003 06:19 pm ET (#2)

Tarrasque
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18 posts
11-06-02

That's stupid. You can't have a fighter with no HP, they probably will have soft AC too.

April 23, 2003 06:25 pm ET (#3)

PebDiGaetano
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103 posts
10-12-02

nah I know they will be good at melee and also not have soft ac ^_^

possibly better at melee then most knights but do to lack of hp makes them harder to last hehe

I think good stats would be 18 dex 16 str 18 dex for hit bonus and ac and 16 str and pgs and str spell and Str ammy make them strong as knights in attack and also swing fast like normal elfs ^_^ makeing them more deadly

but then if they do nerf this class I would just put all in dex or all in str ^_^ wander if it can learn elven magic???

April 23, 2003 06:28 pm ET (#4)

cabroa-style
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45 posts
10-07-02

how much is the max in dex? maybe u can dex him up to 22

April 23, 2003 06:31 pm ET (#5)

ONEOFDAZZZ
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21 posts
02-03-03

So 8 Con this guy is going to get killed a lot, he is going to have a worst HP then the Wizards do

April 23, 2003 06:32 pm ET (#6)

megasnake
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44 posts
02-02-03

8 con is that like 250+hp at high level 40's? omg thats weak lol as a melee fighter or bow fighter alike they wont go far..... i wonder what magic and abbilities they will get to make the hp loss worth it

April 23, 2003 06:35 pm ET (#7)

xxmonicaxx
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15 posts
05-04-02

1 u dont know how much 8 con will give per lvl for the character
2 u can add a few points to the con
3 it looks to be intended to be a all around class not specializing in anything particular but having good all around stats...the int and wis look like they have possibilities too

April 23, 2003 06:51 pm ET (#8)

Epidemicz
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posts
03-02-03

8 con? omg wtf....unless they gain like super amounts of hp per level at 8 con..

Aren't dark elves supposed to be magic users as well?

April 23, 2003 07:12 pm ET (#9)

SkyLin
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82 posts
04-20-02

i think dark elves will be duel wielding so they dont need that much hp cause they will do alot more damage with two weapons and they will have dex for ac and er.
cant wait for lineage 2 saw the video with the humans dueling wielding.
im lookin forward to seeing this new class makes me actually wanna play lineage more then 30-60 minutes a day.

April 23, 2003 07:18 pm ET (#10)

IntothePain
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163 posts
11-01-02

1: what will happen to 52+ dark elf morph lol
2: will they get new magics? cause dark elf can do tornado right?
3: all classes is possible to get 18con so this class must be special
4: no dark elf party will ever kill any dragon or really strong boss
5: who shoots faster with bow dark elf or elf? 15dex start must mean they meant to use bow right?
6: will they have an evil mother tree? cause the "good" elves banished the dark elf race right?
7: if they put soft ac on possibly the lowest hp class thats so lame!!
8: why am i numbering this list?
9: why don't i stop?
10: ill stop now
11: ok im done

April 23, 2003 07:24 pm ET (#11)

Kayzum
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posts
04-23-03

Could it be a halfling? Theres low CON and average STR... but the DEX is way too high.

Im leaning towards dark elf, personally because of the dex level... ahh! I want to know!! The waiting is killing me!

April 23, 2003 07:32 pm ET (#12)

CuteLady
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64 posts
10-12-02

Well guys just because they're called Dark Elves doesn't mean they're from the same tribes of the DEs we see now. They're better, and seriously, you think there will be evil mother tree?

April 23, 2003 07:41 pm ET (#13)

flexy24k
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215 posts
12-10-02

Well, looks like ive made my decision on what my next char will be. 15 dex isnt bad as a start i guess. Still don't know where i'll put the points tho. maybe 1 dex and 6 con... Guess I have plenty of time to think about it... I think this class is meant to be well rounded. Good at everything but not great at anything... If NCI is smart this class will not have soft AC. Only one way to find out, and that's to wait and see... Finally some new fun in this game!!!

-K-

April 23, 2003 07:45 pm ET (#14)

McLeans
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137 posts
09-17-02

#10
1. The dark elf mops will stay in game, the playable characters will look different, so the morph stays...
2. Dark elf can do tornado, Death KNIGHT can do earthquake O.o
3. No shit!
4. No one will ever kill a dragon (only if NC nerfs dragons) / Dark elves prolly will be able to end bosses... (you dunno yet)
5. Right.
6. lol evil mother tree... dad tree? o.o
7. yeah!
8. Because u feel it's important.
9. Because you want more numbers.
10. Better do that.
11. Finally.

April 23, 2003 08:08 pm ET (#15)

juggalo
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53 posts
10-21-02

Everyone stop calling it a dark elf cause its a damn Rogue/Theif class...darkelf would be freakin stupid considering there is already the morph

April 23, 2003 09:12 pm ET (#16)

ZRiPTiDEZ
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60 posts
11-13-01

yea i dunno if it matters or not but it's in the same spot that the thief class was in when they had it so u could choose all 6 classes but the 2 characters weren't supported (thief/engineer) it's just to bad they didn't keep the stats the same hehe, i rolled an 18 str 18 con thief and was like, omg i want that class!

April 23, 2003 09:12 pm ET (#17)

IntothePain
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163 posts
11-01-02

=)

April 23, 2003 10:18 pm ET (#18)

Prince Drathen
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223 posts
12-04-02

I can't believe so many people think they'd add another Elf.

Thieves byatch!

April 23, 2003 10:34 pm ET (#19)

TLFmaster
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223 posts
12-02-01

Hmmm well rounded but basically bad at everything huh? That reminds me of the elf class. NC calls it "well balanced", but 12 in every stat does absolutely nothing.

April 23, 2003 10:56 pm ET (#20)

cabroa-style
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45 posts
10-07-02

perhaps...they get some pretty cool darkelf only items...
like a hell of ac , cool new weapon
maybe strong summons
whatever,
i personally dont think we ll get real looser class
btw, if u go dex 18 and rest on con ull have almost dexelf stats

April 23, 2003 11:06 pm ET (#21)

juggalo
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53 posts
10-21-02

New Class will probably hit faster than a knight and be able to use brave. This new class seems like its gonna be based on speed, but not be able to take many hits. It will probably walk faster than all the other classes. Probably a 90% chance of it having soft ac equal to a prince/elf. anyone else have any ideas post away ^^

April 23, 2003 11:32 pm ET (#22)

tamashii
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77 posts
02-03-03

lame... if it turns out to be a dark elf class... lame lame lame... what a waste... what a joke... just plain laziness on the part of NC. lame lame lame. come up with something that is more meaningful, something that doesn't already exist in the game as something we kill, something that people will want to play and not just morph into. what's the icon gonna be? a wing with sharper edges?

i am thoroughly dissappointed so far.

-t

April 23, 2003 11:52 pm ET (#23)

87
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444 posts
11-28-02

it has not yet been officially labelled dark elf...
the male version of this pic is wearing a cape.... do dark elves wear capes?
i dunno...
the history does kinda lean towards a dark elf... but what if they are dark humans o.o?
of dwarves that lost weight and grew taller?
of theives.... bandits? sexy orcs? angels (nah)?
since elves are already bow users....i'm thinking maybe a rogue/theif...
the graphics are not the same as the old theif... or engineer for that matter
judging by the low con, im thinking they are meant to be fast and agile, but decently hard hitting
i think they will look dead sexy with a sword o.o maybe have a fast swing rate??

i dunno.... anything is possible
just don't mass level them (had to squeeze that in)

April 24, 2003 12:37 am ET (#24)

K-ZS-M
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925 posts
05-04-02

of course ppl will mass lvl them
will be the race to have the first lvl 52+ dark elf hehe

will probably not have elven magic
but maybe magic lvl up to lvl 7
so it can cast tornado and summon

who knows what NC is up to
we really do have to wait and see
I hope it is good stuff to come from it
either way it goes....will be my char on another server
cuz all my slots for dep r full and can't afford to delete any of them

April 24, 2003 01:11 am ET (#25)

poweredpark
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5 posts
11-24-02

With this "dark elf" you could get 12 con and 18 dex, which would just be something like a regular dex elf. (you could also go 18 dex, 16 str, but you would only have 8 con)
And if it had 18 str like a regular str elf, it would only have 8-9 con, but would have better dex (15-16).

So your choices would be a dex elf equivalent, or a weak strength elf with slightly better ac from the dex-ac bonus.

There's gotta be more to this class than meets the eye.
If it has such low con, it has to have some unique skills or some thingy like that.

April 24, 2003 01:52 am ET (#26)

Legolas4
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127 posts
05-31-02

Well, one could do 18 dex 10 con and 14 str, or 16 dex 12 con 14 str, or 15 dex 14 con 13 str, or 15 dex 12 con 14 wis, or 18 dex 10 con 14 int, or...there are many many different combinations for stats, the best one is up to you.

April 24, 2003 03:10 am ET (#27)

GrandDragon
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posts
02-11-03

Dark elf huh....... naaa i dont think so, i would agree with some other people that its going to be like a thief class.

April 24, 2003 03:51 am ET (#28)

Tissot
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180 posts
06-22-02

I r3comm3nd 18 DEX and 12 CON.

Play safe!

April 24, 2003 04:17 am ET (#29)

L
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481 posts
01-16-02

must be really good with atks o.o;

April 24, 2003 04:48 am ET (#30)

tony
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11 posts
12-02-02

"This world must no longer soil our tribe with blood in meaningless wars. Using our own methods, we will defy the ones who have destroyed order in this dark world and replaced it with chaos."

as for "own methods" i wonder what does that mean ;)

April 24, 2003 05:32 am ET (#31)

SELain
Loyal Fan
39 posts
04-06-02

What if the extremely low con meant the class and the idea that elves taught mages magic meant that this class would have all the magic that mages wish they had? I'd be glad I didn't have a mage if that was the case...

April 24, 2003 07:29 am ET (#32)

luitakshing
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posts
10-11-02

The translation was not done buy Gunf.
The english version may be done by Hong Kong Offical.
The "Darfelf-e.tbl" can be find in 2.01HK~
(PS. My gammer may be wrong >_< I come from Hong Kong)

April 24, 2003 08:07 am ET (#33)

xLondonBroilx
Loyal Fan
200 posts
10-02-01

Definitely a thief class.

April 24, 2003 08:48 am ET (#34)

kiat78
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5 posts
04-08-02

After Dark elf, what next? Dwarf Engineer?

April 24, 2003 10:41 am ET (#35)

boocob
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2 posts
05-16-03

I think a new class is a good idea. People need change for things to stay interesting. However how about something completely original. Dark elf is actually still just an elf. Also you would have to put half your points to con or die all the time so for the most part that rules out the extreme dex possiblity.

April 24, 2003 11:13 am ET (#36)

AsianKing
Loyal Fan
65 posts
10-25-02

Are they goin to put in another character?? it be kool if we have 6 character to play and I can open another account to play all 6 character :]

April 24, 2003 12:01 pm ET (#37)

cristha02
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141 posts
03-31-02

i hope we will get a 4th slot now -_- coz u can choice at 5 chars then and can only have 3? that will suck -_-

April 24, 2003 04:11 pm ET (#38)

Haleft
Loyal Fan
53 posts
10-18-02

omg NC must give us more character slots than 3...
if dark elf shoot fast as the actual dark elf morph,all 50+ elves will cry in agony zzz

April 24, 2003 06:04 pm ET (#39)

Ramza
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722 posts
01-11-02

i actualy like hte idea of a new class looks like ill ebe joining very shortly once i can affored my isp at my new apartment :D

April 24, 2003 06:22 pm ET (#40)

KooPsTa
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posts
10-14-02

i really hope we get a new char slot

April 24, 2003 07:30 pm ET (#41)

w00tage
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43 posts
11-21-02

wonder what new class specific gear it will get

April 24, 2003 10:37 pm ET (#42)

ruffarrows
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23 posts
03-11-03

hmmm all i want to know is if they can use elven magic...=)

April 24, 2003 10:50 pm ET (#43)

bigpeeler
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129 posts
10-23-02

i don like the way their stats r set out... like how they have 10 cha instead of 9 which meanz instead of jus wasting 3 points their now wasting 4... and how they have 12 str which meanz its like puttin ur last point on str if u got a dex elf... and y 11 wis instead of 12... i mean i don want them 2 b jus like normal elve's but all they really did wuz get a normal elf and mess his stats up a bit... i wunder wut their "thing" will b... like how knight'z thing is melee, wiz is magik and elf is balance... wutz da dark elf gonna do...

im kinda happy i quit lineage for a bit now so i kno i didnt waste all my time on my normal elf lol

im soooo goin DE... but i still hate da stats

April 25, 2003 12:39 am ET (#44)

Genesis
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19 posts
07-21-03

Male char is wearing cape probly ranger class and you run around SKT in circles
to lvl o.o

April 25, 2003 01:28 am ET (#45)

pirooz
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13 posts
02-20-03

haha genesis thats a good one lolol
and i say it no god damn elf so shut up ppl. it will be some other bull shit character that nc will make. just lets wait and see

April 25, 2003 07:19 am ET (#46)

LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan
81 posts
04-15-02

everybody moaning about the crappy con..but u dont know how much hp/lvl it can get
also maybe this class is more oriented to to party/pledge hunts than solo hunts....it would be more like a support class than a solo class......

also stop saying..."if its DE then its stupid because the of the DE morph at lvl 52"
EVEN if it was a DE....it would still need to morph to not get annoyed by mops and the best bow morph is and will still be DE
also dont expect to c the new abilities once the class is out....remember how long it took to c elf and prince magic ...

April 25, 2003 08:00 am ET (#47)

TheCollector
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351 posts
09-07-02

gah! here i thought the fact that a normal elf had to waste 3 points because their minimum cha is 9, and here they screwed the dark elf (if it is indeed dark elf) by giving it a base of 10! >.<

now most of the elven magics right now are support spells with the exception of a few... so if it is dark elves they would have their own versions, if it followed the whole elemental system. their versions, of course, being curses and attack spells.

isnt tornado a lvl 7 spell? maybe dark elves will learn the human magics line every 7 levels with a max of lvl 7 magic o.O *ramble ramble*

April 25, 2003 11:35 am ET (#48)

Dazaran
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3 posts
12-03-02

They said before that the new class would have a big impact on sieges and what would have a bigger impact and fit in w/ the medieval fantasy setting better than an Assassin? Imagine someone walking up behind you and popping several Dice Daggers on you in rapid succession. Possibly the Dark Elf will get the critical hit while keeping the Dice Dagger.

Dark Elf will likely have hit points equal to a Dex Elf -1 point per lvl due to the 8 con. You'd only want to add 1 or 2 points to Con to get rid of the -1. You don't get bonus HPs til 16 Con so no reason to throw many points into Con.

I'll bet they get spells the same as Elves w/ the exception of only having one elemental line, that being Shadow, after all what do you find between light and dark?

April 25, 2003 12:15 pm ET (#49)

LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan
81 posts
04-15-02

Dazaran nice one there ...i totally forgot about the con being only -1 hp/lvl for a dex elf
and its true that the "dark elf" class could be an assassin because of their high str/dex but low hp....i have never seen an assassin last long in a combat....usually they hit and disapear and the stats exactly show that

i think that "dark elves" would have lvl 5/6 normal magic and lvl 3 elf magic BUT also a spell groupe of magic where there could be tornado in the list (if they r really dark elves of course)

otherwise if there will be a shadow/dark elemental line...i think it would be based on buffs like +x dmg,+x hit and some kind of invisibility (in caves cant be seen when using the spell)

April 25, 2003 01:49 pm ET (#50)

Dazaran
Loyal Fan
3 posts
12-03-02

Actually I was thinking something like as an example lvl 40 Shadow spell; Shadow Walk a silhouette-like morph, hard to see and aggressive action pulls you out. Another one would be lvl 30 Shadow spell; Disguise 'morph' into Elf/Mage/Knight/Prince, this would allow Dark Elves to make use of Elven Forest.

I doubt they'd have Tornado or Invisibility, they were run off by the other Dark Elves and likely would have lost some of their lore in rush to escape and later the fight to survive w/o the amenities they were accustomed to. They would become assassins in order to exact revenge upon the tribes that defeated them.

April 25, 2003 05:55 pm ET (#51)

Epidemicz
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posts
03-02-03

can you say hype?

April 27, 2003 12:20 pm ET (#52)

DragonMaster
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21 posts
02-08-03

iam goin with assasin/rouge..considerin thieves sometimes travel in pacts..and to hunt with their low con the would need to travel among people.and i like the idea about the shadow spell..that would b cool 2. but then again the old sayin..theirs no honor amonst thieves ;).but ya a thief would b a really cool edition to the game...in sieges alls u see is a shadow, it scuries away..ask a mage to detect and nothin happens..then u look behind u and u see ur king get attacked by a mysterious dark cloak...ur king drops to the ground in a puddle of blood and the mysterios black cloak juss disapears!!!muhahahaha that would be awsome!!!!*Droowls*!!!!!!!!!I WANT!

April 27, 2003 08:18 pm ET (#53)

NeOnRaVe
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29 posts
12-10-02

the lineage 2 version of de may give you a hint on whats to come.........

Originally, the Brown Elves used to be one of the Elven tribes.
They came to be called Dark Elves after they learned to use the
forbidden black magic and committed the heinous crime of
slaughtering all the Tree Elves. An elder of the Tree Elves cast a
curse upon them before his death. As a result, they cannot be
active under bright light. However, after a long period of study,
they were able to overcome the curse by using magical power.
They live underground or in a dark forest. Compared to other
Elves, their life span is shorter but they have a high
reproductive rate.

Appearance
Overall, their appearance is similar to that of Elves. But they have
a very dark skin color that seems to melt into thedarkness of night.
Since they have a more liberal attitudetowards sex than other races,
they tend to wear clothingthat seems to be too explicit to a Humans'
sensibility.

History
Brown Elves were of a higher class among Elves.
However, they ended up playing with black magic,
the forbidden force. They were deceived by
Humans' dark schemes and slaughtered all the Tree
Elves who used to be their brothers of the forest.
Then a curse was cast upon them turning them
into Dark Elves. The history of Dark Elves after
that is smeared with blood from endless
war with Elves.

Basic Class
Dark Fighter
"�Be quiet."
Dark fighter is a swift attack warrior whose main weapon is fast body movement. While confronting them, if you get distracted even for a moment, your windpipe may be penetrated by the cold blade of a sword.

Dark Mage
"By the authority of the great Gran Kain!"
Dark Elves specialize in performing black magic, and enjoy using the powerful attack magic that can exterminate their enemies instantly. Their innate magic capability is superior to that of Elves.

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