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October 16, 2002 04:46 pm ET - research by amateras
10/16 - Korean Test server update
The following publishes were made to the Korean test servers on 10/16:

  1. You cannot shoot arrows from the cliffs in Forgotten Island any more.
  2. Drop rate of Ancient Scroll have been increased.
  3. Restarting from a town coliseum will now put you back in town.

October 16, 2002 04:53 pm ET (#2)
HellKat
Loyal Fan

75 posts
06-20-02

1. That sucks. I thought all new cliff areas from FV update on will have the firing down/up ability? Bad move. FI = Knight only.

2. Great, for Knights. See #1.

3. Uh, shouldn't that have been obvious before publish?

October 16, 2002 05:06 pm ET (#3)
VoLT
Loyal Fan

174 posts
12-02-01

yes.. elf cant shoot when not on cliff...............

October 16, 2002 06:09 pm ET (#4)
OgreBane
Loyal Fan

8 posts
10-10-02

...how does that make sense.
so if I shoot off of an empty cliff in r/l an invisible barrier pops up? o.0 That is not right.

October 16, 2002 06:17 pm ET (#5)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

that sucks i hope many knights die in forgotten island then if i cant shoot down/up i hope mops can rofl.ALL knights go to Forgottenisland and die while i go to fv all mops mine.

October 16, 2002 06:26 pm ET (#6)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

its just for forgotten island because ppl would get free kills

October 16, 2002 06:36 pm ET (#7)
TheCollector
Loyal Fan

351 posts
09-07-02

DAMN IT :( i wanted to do the cliff thing too i remember the whole 1 knight 2 elf parties on FI -_- damnitall

October 16, 2002 06:46 pm ET (#8)
Substance
Loyal Fan

186 posts
09-25-02

Yammie, can we save game now in baboage?

October 16, 2002 06:48 pm ET (#9)
Nitrogun
Loyal Fan

229 posts
03-17-02

WE WANT FORGOTTEN ISLAND!!!! ^^ and we want more ancient scrolls ^^

October 16, 2002 07:00 pm ET (#10)
Yammie
Loyal Fan

213 posts
11-14-01

ppl still play that?

October 16, 2002 08:07 pm ET (#11)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

just because it came on korean test doesn't mean we'll get it.

October 16, 2002 08:37 pm ET (#12)
shoyo
Loyal Fan

86 posts
04-25-02

hhahahahahaha. now fi becomes anohter knight only place. very few place for elf no place for prince n mage.. nice work nci~~~ nice work~~

o yeah ammmmmmmmmmmmmmmerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............. comic............... update............................ no.........................

October 16, 2002 08:54 pm ET (#13)
Dlirk
LC Reporter

75 posts
01-06-02

What does this "ancient scroll" do exactly?

October 16, 2002 08:56 pm ET (#14)
HellKat
Loyal Fan

75 posts
06-20-02

Dlirk, Ancient scrolls unlock the items found on FI.

Taera, We'll get 'em. Why? 'Cause they're nerfs.

October 16, 2002 08:59 pm ET (#15)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

HellKat, believe it or not, NC employees dont get a bonus for every complaint mail they make an American send in.

October 16, 2002 09:07 pm ET (#16)
Dlirk
LC Reporter

75 posts
01-06-02

So if you were to find Ancient armor or something you'd need to use an ancient scroll on it to wear it?
Can someone explain the system to me.

October 16, 2002 09:08 pm ET (#17)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

ancient items are "sealed"...meaning you can't see their stats or wear them until you "unseal" them with an ancient scroll. It's NC's little joke on us...giving us a -12 ac armor that we just stare at ;)

October 16, 2002 09:12 pm ET (#18)
Dlirk
LC Reporter

75 posts
01-06-02

and I'd bet somehow that once they're unsealed you can't + them huh

October 16, 2002 09:12 pm ET (#19)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

no, you can't...cept for the crossbow. And the crossbow is *one handed*...GOOD for elves!

October 16, 2002 09:19 pm ET (#20)
HellKat
Loyal Fan

75 posts
06-20-02

No Taera, I don't think they do either, but rest assured, we will get the same FI as Korea. These updates are nerfs, plain and simple. NCI wants people to hunt in groups. FI requires this. So early reports showed us the knight and two elf squads were successfully hunting FI. Beautiful team work. Now it's been decided that this combination is too powerful and the elves must lose the only natural adtvatage left, shooting from cliffs. The nerf has struck. So the end result? Knight will have no use for the elf. They will best benefit from hunting BK style, while the elves and mages watch from the shoreline or stay at home washing dishes and tending the garden,

October 16, 2002 09:21 pm ET (#21)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

I don't know about you, but I've never washed no dishes nor tended a garden. I take my SOF and go out and FIGHT.
As for a natural advantage, I believe it was an unfair one. Why should elves be able to kill without getting hit?
And we don't always get korea's updates....they have lots of things in that we don't, and we have some they don't I am sure..

October 16, 2002 09:21 pm ET (#22)
HellKat
Loyal Fan

75 posts
06-20-02

*They* refers to NC employees recieving a bonus, not the post by Taera right above mine. Just want to clarify that.

October 16, 2002 09:24 pm ET (#23)
HellKat
Loyal Fan

75 posts
06-20-02

"As for a natural advantage, I believe it was an unfair one. Why should elves be able to kill without getting hit?"

Jeez, arrows fly through the air. They go up and down and all over the place. If I say that mages should be able to e-bolt off a cliff, would you feel better? 'Cause I really think they should be able to do that too.

October 16, 2002 09:29 pm ET (#24)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

I believe they can, but I have never tried. I don't believe in the chicken way out.

October 16, 2002 09:32 pm ET (#25)
shoyo
Loyal Fan

86 posts
04-25-02

tarea... -.- fi mosnters are very strong... if an elf went there and try to take the beat..... they will die very very fast cos
1. they don't ahve shield
2. they don't have hp
3. they dont' move as fast as knights

note that a dark elf on fi hit a lvl 50 knight with -60 at 50 to 100 damage eachhit...... elf arn't suppose to get hit a lot.... and how they can manage do that? shot from cliff... but looks like now nci are trying to force bowing elf to become tankers like knights..... man... staffs in nci must have some special bond with knights

October 16, 2002 09:33 pm ET (#26)
k_gorgor
Loyal Fan

37 posts
09-08-02

1. That sucks. I thought all new cliff areas from FV update on will have the firing down/up ability? Bad move. FI = Knight only.

2. Great, for Knights. See #1.

3. Uh, shouldn't that have been obvious before publish?
tarea... -.- fi mosnters are very strong... if an elf went there and try to take the beat..... they will die very very fast cos
1. they don't ahve shield
2. they don't have hp
3. they dont' move as fast as knights

note that a dark elf on fi hit a lvl 50 knight with -60 at 50 to 100 damage eachhit...... elf arn't suppose to get hit a lot.... and how they can manage do that? shot from cliff... but looks like now nci are trying to force bowing elf to become tankers like knights..... man... staffs in nci must have some special bond with knights

October 16, 2002 09:33 pm ET (#27)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

knock knock..DE would hit an elf anyway..they shoot arrows too.
And use a sword if you want a shield.
And elves have more HP then mages.
And elves move faster then mages, and at least as fast as an unbraved knight.

October 16, 2002 09:43 pm ET (#28)
Rincewind
Loyal Fan

279 posts
02-12-02

Amer, new Vet Question answers are up. o.o

October 16, 2002 09:47 pm ET (#29)
Alexei
Loyal Fan

34 posts
09-11-02

Hmm..This cliff thing has me vexed...
If you are shotting DOWN from the cliff that should be entirely reasonable...
But,if you are shooting UP to the top of a cliff, the mop better be near the edge or it shouldn't be possible to hit it with the lip of the cliff wall obstructing you, unless you are far from the edge but then that may be to hard for some to figure out
~^

October 16, 2002 09:48 pm ET (#30)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

Or unless you shoot high and let it drop down ;) but that takes skillz

October 16, 2002 09:51 pm ET (#31)
shoyo
Loyal Fan

86 posts
04-25-02

knock knock..DE would hit an elf anyway..they shoot arrows too.
And use a sword if you want a shield.
And elves have more HP then mages.
And elves move faster then mages, and at least as fast as an unbraved knight.

... .dont you even talk about mages... there is still a little place for elf to stand in fi ..... but here is no place for a mage to survive in there...... use som to hit mop for mp? chop chop they are chopped into meatballs....

o yeah. de can still hit elf.. but i just use de to show an expample... i believe other mops on fi will not be weaker than de........ then what will poor elfs do? -.-

October 16, 2002 09:53 pm ET (#32)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

I am a mage and I don't plan to be chopped up :) Get some guts!

October 16, 2002 10:35 pm ET (#33)
EX-CON
Loyal Fan

597 posts
03-19-02

fine ill go there to cancel ppl weeeee~
i dont want to go there anyways boo i rather have fv to myself Dep drops so low anyways just got bdai from tauv 1hr ago drops still sucks
i like how korea does the drop system drops go on floor and only killer or first hitter can pick up and noone can touch for some amount of time but of course NC likes how knights come and hit what i hit and they get drops cause NC loves knight. Too bad i cant play korea server i join that so fast forget NC us.

October 17, 2002 01:18 am ET (#34)
Substance
Loyal Fan

186 posts
09-25-02

Amer..why u delete my msg....i just want to kno when do we get FI..>.<

October 17, 2002 02:07 am ET (#35)
Luckie
Loyal Fan

151 posts
03-19-02

...
why increase ancient scroll -.- the items suppose to be rare why not leave them >_<
o.o cant shoot off cliff stupid -.- elves = no good in FI

October 17, 2002 02:20 am ET (#36)
mp34567
Loyal Fan

89 posts
06-28-02

LOL deal with it (#1), mages have. Dont you think its silly that mages cant shoot ebolts from cliffs? Or that their spells have ranges? Nc does things for a reason..and thats to create 'balance'...

October 17, 2002 05:37 am ET (#37)
NeoCross
Loyal Fan

139 posts
03-20-02

balance = Lineage: The Knight Pledge

October 17, 2002 07:31 am ET (#38)
redpig
Loyal Fan

283 posts
10-15-02

lineage: a knight's tale

but remember
this place is suppose to b a party hunt place
if elves can camp at the edges of the cliff and shot things off the cliff while his frds watches his back,coi stay down there to pick up drops, then it's too easy
also this does some bad for all classes,cuz it's not just elves that can't shot off cliffs,it wouldn't b so easy to camp a cliff with a whole party of scout morph ppl with bows

this should b a hard place,NC won't let u on or off it so easy~_~

October 18, 2002 07:27 pm ET (#39)
PebDiGaetano
Loyal Fan

103 posts
10-12-02

NC has wet dreams of the knights they created that is why they babys knights.


oh look at the cute little knight *(NC support staff runs to bathroom for a few minutes)*

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