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June 18, 2002 10:56 pm ET - research by Yammie

Lineage inspires MMORPG development

A Lineage pioneer, Yammie, which we all know and love, is destined to write a game some day. Maybe you want to help?

http://www.rpgplanet.com/lineage/game1.shtm

June 18, 2002 11:09 pm ET (#1)

LPC
Loyal Fan
21 posts
04-06-02

cool ~

June 18, 2002 11:11 pm ET (#2)

SouLz
Loyal Fan
1 posts
06-18-02

hehe Yammie.. this is XFantasyX here if u still remember me.. ^^ let me be GM for that game if thats possible heh, i know you can do it!

June 18, 2002 11:42 pm ET (#7)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

lol, im sure everyone would like to be a GM.

June 18, 2002 11:42 pm ET (#8)

sam12345
Loyal Fan
27 posts
07-01-02

amer respond to this soon plz

June 18, 2002 11:55 pm ET (#9)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

Respond to what soon?

June 18, 2002 11:56 pm ET (#10)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

thats what i was thinking.

June 19, 2002 12:20 am ET (#11)

sam12345
Loyal Fan
27 posts
07-01-02

yay! u responded!

June 19, 2002 12:20 am ET (#12)

Luckie
Loyal Fan
151 posts
03-19-02

o.O Yammie making a game lolz.... Good Luck Yammie ^_^... make something like a dragon slayer quest in it since NC wont bring it bak for us.. >_<*

June 19, 2002 12:27 am ET (#13)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

o.O.... gm meee lol
Time for some home brewed canadian gaming.

June 19, 2002 12:40 am ET (#14)

PeNTeL
Loyal Fan
299 posts
12-11-01

keke i wanna be gm too O.o c-emp = babo o.o

June 19, 2002 01:19 am ET (#15)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

Since im a programmer, I emailed him about a job( If I fit his requirements) :)

June 19, 2002 02:04 am ET (#16)

Dogzilla
Loyal Fan
26 posts
04-07-02

http://www.worldforge.org/

June 19, 2002 02:16 am ET (#17)

AbidingArdor
Loyal Fan
37 posts
12-06-01

Little kids have so much ambition, but it dose not match up to his talents...

Making a game takes 50-100 people doing each part to make a whole...anyway how are you so sure that you will be graduating in 5 years and jump into making a game right away?

Unless you are from a rich family you need money to start this kind of stuff...iam not being negative, iam just not being positive about this. ^_^

June 19, 2002 02:30 am ET (#18)

Pepper
Loyal Fan
135 posts
02-11-02

I'll not be a GM..I'll be a Monitor! - -
Anyways...I'm sure it's good to plan ahead o.O wow u're graduating next year? Same here...yet I have no plans for the future whatsoever - -
Would be glad to help if any help is needed hehe
Good luck babo o.o
-And you still owe me a b-banana-

C-emp = Babo
B-indy = Babo
B-Pep = Best of babos ohhhhhhh o.o

June 19, 2002 02:59 am ET (#19)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

AbidingArdor: i have that all covered. dont worry. i realize what it takes to make a game like lineage.

Pepper: i graduated this year actually

June 19, 2002 03:22 am ET (#20)

GodSlayer
Loyal Fan
18 posts
02-22-02

lol gooooo Yammie

June 19, 2002 03:39 am ET (#21)

InToTheFire
Loyal Fan
142 posts
11-27-01

i have sent my e-mail already!!

June 19, 2002 04:44 am ET (#22)

QueenNina
Loyal Fan
197 posts
10-31-01

Yammie I emailed you about an important subject and I would love to hear back from you if you're intrested. I would love to help if I can. 5 years, I should be out of college for two years by then and working for Adobe if my Dad's best friend is still working there. Hes 35 and is planning to retire early.

*have to get back to studying!!!*

June 19, 2002 04:45 am ET (#23)

QueenNina
Loyal Fan
197 posts
10-31-01

Blueberry email me at QueenNina@onebox.com. I would love to hear about you game too and would love to talk to you about an important subject concerning a few cool things. Later.

June 19, 2002 04:54 am ET (#24)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

hm the link dosent work for me amer

June 19, 2002 08:43 am ET (#25)

Orcide
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-05-01

i will email yammie about this later, when more info will be revealed, if so i might be able to contact european game sites and make alot of attention to this game and maybe able to host a server (would be quite easy in denmark to do --;)

but as of now, with no info whatsoever, it would be impossible.

June 19, 2002 10:27 am ET (#26)

Cogency
Loyal Fan
64 posts
12-05-01

hahahahahah @ sam12345 respond to this soon. lol!!!!

Nice yammie... hope u keep the game run longer then the site.... ;)

June 19, 2002 10:59 am ET (#27)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

its does not take a hundred people to make a game mind you -.-
Unless you are a programmer or designer or someone else related to PC game making, you know nothing

June 19, 2002 11:55 am ET (#28)

Protocol
Loyal Fan
271 posts
03-26-02

congratz yammie for finding your new goal...... jus dont' get the same staff NC has -.- we all would like to see this game and know more about it >.<

June 19, 2002 12:03 pm ET (#29)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

he should get people that play lineage to help out with the programming and designing

June 19, 2002 12:39 pm ET (#30)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

re: hope u keep the game run longer then the site

i only gave up on the site because i stopped playing lineage. so dont think of me as a quitter

June 19, 2002 12:50 pm ET (#31)

aupairKing
Loyal Fan
320 posts
03-11-02

Yammie,
I am interested in helping with this new MMORPG also. I have been researching and concepting the same idea for months now and I will have to say that IT WILL take many many Man hours to Analyze, Conceptualize, gathering your requiremnts, building functuional specs., Story-boarding, and creating project plans and schedules and at this point you have not even coded anything yet. Their is the AI and the Engine to be used and possibly created anew. There are many hundreds of hours of good graphics rendering and music making. There is the coding and testing and documentation that will need to be done. It is a huge undertaking to make a well rounded and nicely concieved program.

And anyone who tells you differently is a FOOL! I have 7 years of development experience and I do not believe I can even now fully grasp an over all picture of what is needed for a game of this concept

June 19, 2002 01:11 pm ET (#32)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

I did not say it wouldnt take long. Did I say that? Did I say it would be easy? No, I simply said a hundred people are not needed.

June 19, 2002 01:43 pm ET (#33)

aupairKing
Loyal Fan
320 posts
03-11-02

Yammie, one of the books you will probably read in college is called 'The Mythical Man-Month' it is good reading and not a huge book, very small actualy. Some of the writings and essays in it will give you some insite into the management of a software application and the many 100s of Man-hours often needed.

I also believe this book is where the concept and rationale came about that pointed out that upwards of 80% of all applications created by software Engineers are failures these days. The statement goes on to say that if Building Engineers had the same sucess rate, would you be willing to drive over a bridge today?

June 19, 2002 02:22 pm ET (#34)

speedlab
Loyal Fan
124 posts
11-27-01

Good luck Yammie! are you aiming for a MUD? 2D? 3D?

It doesn't take 100's of people, example: Dominus Online ;)

If they can do it, anyone can!

June 19, 2002 06:00 pm ET (#35)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

aupairKing: i'll be sure to check out that book if i see it.

speedlab: i'll post a Q&A on the site. today if i get time or sunday because i'll be busy between those times.

btw, 80 emails so far!

June 19, 2002 06:12 pm ET (#36)

BlueMasK
Loyal Fan
110 posts
11-07-01

"I already have a lot of the game worked out, with plenty more to do. I would start making the game sometime this year if I knew how to program, but I don't know how to yet so I can't."

I want to make game too but i know i'm not that smart to understand or able to learn the computer programming that well.

June 19, 2002 07:08 pm ET (#37)

chipersoft
Loyal Fan
11 posts
06-11-02

I cant think of any game that has that large of a development team, or any program for that matter... There arent even that many people on the Windows dev team. Now if you count graphics artists and all the other people who dont actually program, the number goes up, but still not that high. The best games available are written by less then 10 people.

However, that is not to say that writting a game is easy, infact game programming is the hardest code to put out because theres so many logical algorythms to consider. A MMORPG is twice as hard because you have to write both the client and the server. I find the fact that lineage works at all quite amazing.

Good luck to you Yammie, but since you have no experience with code, dont get too excited. As it stands right now, the odds of your ideas making it to a fully functional game are about 1,000 to one. There are a lot of variables when writing a program as complex as a MMORPG.

June 19, 2002 07:33 pm ET (#38)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

chipersoft: i know programming can be hard, but i am pretty sure i will be able to handle it. ive always done good in school, getting 70s even if i dont pay attention or do work (talking about grade 12 advanced courses). and programming is something i have a lot of interest in, so i think i will do well.

June 20, 2002 12:40 am ET (#39)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

also an FYI; NC Korea has about 45 people on their team. and im positive they didnt have that many when they started.

June 20, 2002 12:46 am ET (#40)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

all you need is dedicated people who love to program and play games

June 20, 2002 03:30 am ET (#41)

QueenNina
Loyal Fan
197 posts
10-31-01

Heya Yammie, check your email my friend and get back to me. I'm really intrested in you thoughts about what I wrote. By the way, most developement teams for games average between 10 to 25 people.

June 20, 2002 10:09 am ET (#42)

Aeon
LC Reporter
56 posts
04-25-02

Yammie don't listen to the nay-sayers. -.- I think it's very cool that you know what you want to do and have set a goal. A lot of people your age can't even think that far ahead. I say go for it! It won't be an easy task but if U really want to do it, you will. Best of luck to you~ (Will be e-mailing you soon...)

-Aeon

June 20, 2002 11:44 am ET (#43)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

i'll get around to answering the emails and posing up a Q&A soon. i've got close to 100 emails now. also i might not be able to do it until sunday because ive got my grad, but that will give ppl a chance to email me and get their questions answered.

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