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April 25, 2002 04:10 pm ET - research by Melantus
Veteran Questions: Part III

Lawful and Chaotic while using spells, this question was asked a while back, not sure if ull payed attention.
Only heal spells are affected by alignment.

Why cant my lvl 45 mage hit some chars I thought MR was a % of dam taken away from the original damage, but it has come to my attention that some spells miss (erupt, para, ebolt, tornado).
Characters can avoid spell damage based upon their ER (ER is explained next)

What exactly is ER and how does it factor in?
ER is your percentage chance to avoid a ranged attack. This includes spells and arrows. If you avoid a ranged attack you will take no damage from it. It will not affect melee attacks. ER (Evade Rating) is determined based upon class, level, and current dexterity. There is no random gain in ER at level up time. Knights have the best ER.

Is the damage you receive from monsters proportional to the lvl at all. (not counting er ac or dex just lvl). Example if I had a –50AC, 10ER knight at level 40 and a –50AC ER10, level 30 knight would I receive the same damage from a mop or does level also matter (or is it just my eyes that sees my hp drop faster because of less hp).
A player’s level does not factor in to damage received from monsters. That is determined by other means.

Where do drops go after your bugbears are full?
They disappear from the game.

Does ghast still drop summon?
Yes.

True/False: when you shoot an arrow at an enemy, the amount of damage inflicted is based upon the enchantment of the weapon, the type of arrow, and your DEX.
False. Also includes any damage bonuses to the bow, but not the bows base damage. Also if the opponent has other special attributes that damage a weapon used against them, then it will reduce the damage by half.

True/False: When you swing or shoot at an enemy, the probability of you landing that hit is based Only on this list: your dex, your level, enemy ER and enemy AC.
False. It is also based upon weapon enchantment (a 6 weapon has a 3 to hit), and weapon hit bonuses, and your strength. It is also based upon your encumberance level. If you are less encumbered, you have a better chance to hit.

True/False: When you cast damage inflicting spells at an enemy, you will always hit (even if the damage inflicted is zero) and the amount of damage inflicted is based ONLY on this list: your SP, enemy MR.
False. The target can evade the spell based upon their ER.

Is the damage/hit formulas for PvP the same as for killing monsters?
Monsters do not have ER.

Is the difference in HP between one mage with 19 CON and 16 INT versus a mage with 16 CON and 18 INT made up in the difference between each mage’s spellpower?
Higher CON will give the mage higher hitpoints, higher INT will allow the mage to do higher spell damage. The effect of spell power on spell damage differs per spell. There is no fixed increase in damage based on spell power.

Does De-levelling and re-levelling have a negative impact on a roll? Is there a pre-determined range for this scenario or is it completely random?
It’s random. You could potentially lose more when de-levelling, because the same type of calculation is made when de-levelling.

April 25, 2002 04:18 pm ET (#1)
Carrington
Loyal Fan

133 posts
10-08-01

Its nice to see they are actually taking the time to answer these question. It really starts to fill in the blanks many ppl see when they play lineage.

Carrington

April 25, 2002 04:22 pm ET (#2)
DarkFlameX
Loyal Fan

22 posts
03-04-02

Yes i've been dumbfounded(I USED A BIG WORD MOMMY) for most os the er/sp ratings and spell for a while too.

April 25, 2002 05:42 pm ET (#3)
hannibaln3
Loyal Fan

3 posts
01-13-02

i just wanna know
1)Will we get Dex ac bonus
2)1 handed surugi
3)How much extra dmg is str for melee weapons

April 25, 2002 05:49 pm ET (#4)
Akvavit
Loyal Fan

23 posts
01-15-02

Huh. Monsters have no ER? Interesting, since I never see them taking damage when I cast a tornado spell on them. So does a player's alignment have any bearing on the damage that a spell inflicts, as has been said numerous times in the game? (E.g. the aforementioned tornado spell)

Hannibal, Mel mentioned that the Dex bonus has been implemented in the US Servers, according to his post in the "Rumors" thread before this one. My question is will NC re-implement the MR bonus that was on US Test for a brief period?

Thanks,
Akvavit

April 25, 2002 06:12 pm ET (#5)
vinsanity
Loyal Fan

15 posts
04-20-02

This Strange..

April 25, 2002 06:19 pm ET (#6)
Arlington
Loyal Fan

9 posts
03-08-02

re Akvavit

The only part missing is the AC part. Which by the way is the only part i care about. I would bet most people feel the way I do.

April 25, 2002 06:45 pm ET (#7)
nihiliumdefence
Loyal Fan

51 posts
03-21-02

heh, some of these i cant understand... maybe cause i ust woke up. ENGRISH PLWEASE!!! lmao.

April 25, 2002 06:57 pm ET (#8)
xanth
Loyal Fan

11 posts
12-06-01

WHoa whoa whoa wait a second...Anyone catch the part on bows?

True/False: when you shoot an arrow at an enemy, the amount of damage inflicted is based upon the enchantment of the weapon, the type of arrow, and your DEX.

False. Also includes any damage bonuses to the bow, !!but not the bows base damage!!. Also if the opponent has other special attributes that damage a weapon used against them, then it will reduce the damage by half.

Then what the hell is the Yumi good for?! 3/3+3 accounts for nothing? Might as well use a friggin hunter's bow if that's true. Mel please clarify that.

April 25, 2002 07:15 pm ET (#9)
Scaleb
Loyal Fan

224 posts
10-24-01

+3 accounts for something: 'Also includes any damage bonuses to the bow'

I supose 3/3 bit if for 1:1...?? Like when skeles archers hit you with their hands in stead of the bow when you 1:1 them.

Oh isn't the DEX spell kinda useless if all it does is help you avoid arrows? I thought it reduced hp taken by successful hits :/

April 25, 2002 08:02 pm ET (#10)
ChillMaster
Loyal Fan

69 posts
03-03-02

what they mean knights have best ER???? >.< dex elves have highest ER being they have the highest dex. your telling me a knight with 12 dex is gonna have a better ER then a 18/9 dex elf plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

April 25, 2002 08:15 pm ET (#11)
Melantus
NC Staff

6 posts
12-04-01

Yes, basically. The damage is from the arrow, and from the enchantment and bonuses on the bow.

April 25, 2002 08:27 pm ET (#12)
Reece
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50 posts
01-14-02

I never knew that lower weight meant a higher chance to hit...awesome.

April 26, 2002 12:54 am ET (#14)
overkill
Loyal Fan

15 posts
01-24-02

mel, please clarify on this.. because it is a bit confusing:

True/False: When you swing or shoot at an enemy, the probability of you landing that hit is based Only on this list: your dex, your level, <b>ENEMY ER</B> and enemy AC.
False. It is <b>also</b> based upon weapon enchantment (a 6 weapon has a 3 to hit), and weapon hit bonuses, and your strength. It is also based upon your encumberance level. If you are less encumbered, you have a better chance to hit.

True/False: When you cast damage inflicting spells at an enemy, you will always hit (even if the damage inflicted is zero) and the amount of damage inflicted is based ONLY on this list: your SP, enemy MR.
False. The target can evade the spell based upon their ER.

Is the damage/hit formulas for PvP the same as for killing monsters?
Monsters do not have ER.

If monsters dont have ER, then why did you say/imply they did in the aforementioned question?


April 26, 2002 01:33 am ET (#15)
DemonGeist
Loyal Fan

69 posts
03-22-02

he didnt imply it, it's just included in the listing of wat affects it. say you pk with a bow for instance.

April 26, 2002 01:58 am ET (#16)
ImYurHuklBry
Loyal Fan

119 posts
11-16-01

Man oh man, well at least we know why elves are as weak as they are. Thanks for letting us know, now we can safely say they are the most nerfed class in Lineage. I think I'll go delete my lvl 48 dex elf and make a knight instead, at least he'll get to use the weapons I give him to their actual potential.

April 26, 2002 02:16 am ET (#17)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

omg that is so much crap! base damage from bow should still be used!! Why not!! damnit! gr >< so basically my lvl 47 dex elf with my +7yumi si basicaly useless cause my yumi 3/3damage dosent even exist what kinda of crap is that! I v e worked so hard on him and only to find my yumi is almsot useless bah!

April 26, 2002 04:49 am ET (#18)
SELain
Loyal Fan

39 posts
04-06-02

Man, that Yumi must've cost a lot.... Nice trophy I guess :)

April 26, 2002 05:36 am ET (#19)
NoLuCK
Loyal Fan

76 posts
03-21-02

The damage of an arrow works together with the bow.. a bow with 3/3 and arrow with 6/6 would mean the normal damage of the bow+arrow is 9/9. Then all stat bonuses and enchant bonuses are added to the damage.. I think mel just got confused.. did you read the first question?

"Lawful and Chaotic while using spells, this question was asked a while back, not sure if ull payed attention. "

Sure confused me..

April 26, 2002 05:39 am ET (#20)
L
Loyal Fan

481 posts
01-16-02

it does sounds stupid for knight ER higher than elf -_-
but i have no elf o.o the calculation has to be fixed since.... it's non-sence

April 26, 2002 05:42 am ET (#21)
NoLuCK
Loyal Fan

76 posts
03-21-02

Actually.. the post about str not affecting damage of the bow/arrow seems wrong too. Because.. If I str up - it sure affects damage..

I am guessing the bow and arrow damage could be calculated in 2 parts.. The bow follows normal rules for weapon when calculating damage. The arrows part of the damage uses only dex and not str. But - who knows? :/

April 26, 2002 06:30 am ET (#22)
Mort
Loyal Fan

34 posts
11-15-01

"True/False: When you swing or shoot at an enemy, the probability of you landing that hit is based Only on this list: your dex, your level, enemy ER and enemy AC.

False. It is also based upon weapon enchantment (a 6 weapon has a 3 to hit), and weapon hit bonuses, and your strength. It is also based upon your encumbrance level. If you are less encumbered, you have a better chance to hit."

Less encumbered ? What does that mean exactly, does this mean that if your say 20% weight you have a better chance to hit a monster than when you are 60% weight ?

OR does the less encumbered factor only come in when you go over the 50% mark and your overweight ?

"Yes, basically. The damage is from the arrow, and from the enchantment and bonuses on the bow."

So say you have a +6 Yumi (3/3+6), does this mean that the damage dealt by the bow is only based on the type of arrow used and the +6 bonus on the bow ? What happens to the +3 dmg that the bow comes with ?

Please clarify Mel.

April 26, 2002 08:44 am ET (#23)
Scaleb
Loyal Fan

224 posts
10-24-01

'The damage is from the arrow, and from the enchantment and *bonuses* on the bow.'

The yumi's +3damage is included in the dmg calculations I think ;)
I have a feeling the 3/3 part of the yumi may come in when you melee a monster....

It's interesting that Mel says your str affects your hit roll... so this work for bows too?

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