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April 24, 2002 05:17 pm ET - research by Briel
HK - Antharas Blessed by GM
Here is a link to the latest Antharas video from HKLineage.com:

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antharas_blessed_by_gm.zip (8904k)

Briel, the webmaster of HKlineage.com, wanted to share his experiences:


The reason that I posted these video is showing the evidence that Antharas is unbeatable due to the stupid hidden setting. According to the GM interview in one Hong Kong magazine, GM said that Antharas will hide whenever it got low HP, so you must do a very high damage at the last hit (similar to spartoi). However they set the HP for hiding too high (I guess it is around 500-1000HP!) so that it is impossible for us to beat him before he hidden even we have whole screen of people. The only way to beat him is waiting the NPC server laggy (which is impossible in US and Hong Kong).

Also, our dragon slayers are very unhappy with the Hong Kong Officials. The Hidden Antharas 2+3+2 (Part 2) video was made on 7-April. Afterwards I send a complaint letter (with the URL to the video) to NC - Korea, saying that the Hong Kong Antharas is unbeatable since it always hides. On 10-April, the Hong Kong officials posted an announcement, saying that they have never altered the Antharas setting ever. They said they have compared the setting of dragons between HK, JP and TW and KR servers, saying that the HK dragons have never changed from the beginning. Also, one of the GM in HK Test Server says that the Antharas will only hide 5 times, afterwards he will not hide again. (We do not 100% believe this, but it worth a try). Therefore on the next day (11-April), our dragon slayers tried to fight Antharas again. We find that the officials are cheating us! They just made the Antharas much stronger than before. You can see a huge differences between the Antharas in hidden_antharas_2.zip and antharas_blessed_by_gm.zip. We are unhappy because the offcials are telling lies. If they made the Antharas stronger, they should tell us in their announcement so that we won't waste our time, level and adena to fight Antharas.

Our dragon slayers have spent over 50 million adena for potions, 200+hrs for planning and 100+hrs for just discussing on phone! We also dropped from Lv48 to Lv38. We were very angry, if the offcials do not want the dragons getting killed, they should simply take it out from the game instead of wasting our efforts.

April 24, 2002 05:24 pm ET (#1)
Jaire
Loyal Fan

74 posts
02-12-02

Weeeeee!!! My first post EVER!!!!!! If Anth in the US is even remotely similar, this is a very bad bad thing. He serves no point what so ever.
Hopefully some retribution gets done for the HK players that got the shaft.

April 24, 2002 05:37 pm ET (#2)
hannibaln3
Loyal Fan

3 posts
01-13-02

link dont work for me

April 24, 2002 05:38 pm ET (#3)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Sorry, give it 5 minutes. I'm uploading it now.

April 24, 2002 05:40 pm ET (#4)
cruelgame
LC Reporter

290 posts
04-04-02

Mel? Have you guys injected our Anth with Steroids too?

April 24, 2002 05:42 pm ET (#5)
Scaleb
Loyal Fan

224 posts
10-24-01

Ouch - HK gm's possibly more obtuse and non-transparent than our GM's.
Is faf killable on their servers like ours? And if one dragon is killable why not the others, surely there is no point in having one killable dragon and on invicible one - They all drop similar things....

Also are the US dragons as strong as the HK and Korean ones?

April 24, 2002 05:49 pm ET (#6)
aupairKing
Loyal Fan

320 posts
03-11-02

I don't understand such a policy, what wuld be the point of making your player base, which happens to be your income base, MAD! That would be like putting for sale signs on items in a store that you know are not in the inventory. How stupid can NCSoft be getting? I mean seriously!! Some times I think NCSoft execs went to the Enron school of business management.

April 24, 2002 06:18 pm ET (#7)
ImYurHuklBry
Loyal Fan

119 posts
11-16-01

yah, that is pretty harsh stuff, with the exception of having a set of elves with them, they seemed to do everything else right in that vid.

April 24, 2002 06:18 pm ET (#8)
Yabiku
Loyal Fan

59 posts
04-17-02

Bah, HK GM said bullshit, this is very angry to see "one of the GM in HK Test Server says that the Antharas will only hide 5 times, afterwards he will not hide again. " this is totally BullShit, this is 100% not true my PLedge in Dep sever has tried to killed Anthrars he total hide 10times, really 10times, we spend more than 2hrs at dvc7 and at last we give up since he only know how to hide in the Ground, many of our Knights has die more than 50times.. i agree Anthrars is impossible for us to beat..


April 24, 2002 06:35 pm ET (#9)
asianwarrior
Loyal Fan

20 posts
02-09-02

Hmmmm..... If this happen in US server(if GM lie to us) can we sue them? since we are paying for the game anyway. Hmmm....... Hearing this make me really mad. GM really abuse their power. people spend their time and effort for nothing due to some lies and Bullshit. >.< kakak good thing I quit!!!!!! Wonder wut the big guy(the one who own ncsoft) think when they found out many people quit cause of these stupid GMs. Hmmm... mabe they know but they dun care.... 0.o then i would wonder what is going on? o.o

April 24, 2002 06:53 pm ET (#10)
sunshine
Loyal Fan

20 posts
03-10-02

thats messed up

April 24, 2002 06:55 pm ET (#11)
Elbryan
Loyal Fan

180 posts
01-21-02

He took WAAAAY too long to hide. It also seems like this Antharas wasn't faster than a knight on haste+brave like ours is...

April 24, 2002 07:08 pm ET (#12)
TheQuickWind
Loyal Fan

145 posts
04-15-02

Ok thats Pure Bull shit ! It make me so mad. Knowing that, thats going on.
It like when we get lag from the sever .. And all I ever want is a sorry but they will never say anything. !!!! AHHH!!!!!!! \./ OH !! OH ya !!
But they will ban you !! FOR GETTING MAD !!!!! AHHH!!!! EERRRR !!!

April 24, 2002 07:19 pm ET (#13)
IronMage
Loyal Fan

55 posts
04-24-02

Will is that u Quick?

April 24, 2002 07:27 pm ET (#14)
kingslei
Loyal Fan

146 posts
01-04-02

This is highly unfiar to HK players and wish that HK lin must have some kinda regulation followed ~~~ the time not cheating.

April 24, 2002 08:06 pm ET (#15)
Myst1K
Loyal Fan

24 posts
04-17-02

did u guys see how many pots they had on the floor??? it was like 100 piles of clears and about 50-100 in each pile.... dang.. dragon killed them so fast too... last time it wasnt that bad and only like 5knights went

April 24, 2002 08:54 pm ET (#16)
asianwarrior
Loyal Fan

20 posts
02-09-02

AARGGG.........and again can some one check if we can sue US GM for some thing like that if it happen here? plz

April 24, 2002 09:33 pm ET (#17)
Tanathos
Loyal Fan

16 posts
04-20-02

Lineage is beggining to suck!
Nerfing,GM abuse,lack of events,pointless updates,and the list goes on...
Don't make Lineage another UO please.

April 24, 2002 09:51 pm ET (#18)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

Man i feel bad for the HK Dragon Slayers.... What a waste of money....
And ya Elbryan is right... Our Antharas is much faster than the one on the HK server.

April 24, 2002 10:39 pm ET (#19)
The Shadow
Loyal Fan

16 posts
04-24-02

Well, i been playing lineage for 4 months now, and ya know what? Everytime the make a new change to the game, it seems to be for the worst. I am beginning to suspect some of these things are being done to prolong the game and drain more monthly fees from us. I have had it up to here with software companies lately. Its one thing to pay a flat fee for game software, then find out you dont like it. But if someone is paying you $15/month to play, you damn well better listen to your customer base, be considerate and treat players with respect. Most annoying is the threatening messages u get saying you will be "severly punished" for violation of any rules. Jeeesh, we know what the rules are, and i dont see a need to be reminded every 20 mins about behavior. In my opinion, the way it stands now, lineage has great potential, but at this stage, its just another 3rd rate game. And for them to think that lineage 2 will be awesome when lineage 1 isnt even finished is total ignorance. Unfortunately at this date, there arent many mmorpg's for the mac platform, although a few are soon to be released. I will just bide my time on lineage until something better comes out.

April 24, 2002 11:14 pm ET (#20)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

that really pisses me off ><

April 24, 2002 11:40 pm ET (#21)
ChillMaster
Loyal Fan

69 posts
03-03-02

Corruption hinders over it all

April 24, 2002 11:42 pm ET (#22)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

ok i jsut watched the video wtf was that! last video anthras was alot weaker and hid alot moer now he dosent hide till end!!! those knights were proba;ly doing more damage then before wth! Someone better look into this! i am totally pissed off!!

April 25, 2002 12:08 am ET (#23)
DumbPig
Loyal Fan

54 posts
02-28-02

ha ha ha they must have change anthras's hp from 6500 to 10000 something -.-
if US sever's anthras is like this i bet that pl will only go to 7f to take a ss FOREVER!
y NC make dragon so hard to kill and make us players lose sooooo much money time on it......
PS: amer can u tell me what all the GMs,monitors, amdin do?a little something about their job -.-
DumbPig
(-oo-)

April 25, 2002 12:46 am ET (#24)
h2ombre
Loyal Fan

333 posts
02-28-02

yea, changed it to 10k hp and -90ac. This is why we need to know how many hp the mop we are fighting has left. That will never happen though. All of the updates make the game harder and hinder playing ability. Hell would freeze before NC gave us something to make hunting easier.

April 25, 2002 01:22 am ET (#25)
SkyLin
Loyal Fan

82 posts
04-20-02

the last one i saw they had like 30 mages ebolting so that may have been a difference but it does seem to be harder. btw how does that guy fight antha with out even clicking on him he has his mouse on the sword and u can see that he is still beating on antha i just would like to know i don twant the program or anything but it is weird to me that he is fixing his sword and still beating antha. am i the only one who noticed that? anyways hk players got screwed once again by antha and now this time by the gm's and staff over at hk. the hk players have nice tactics. the first one i saw they had a pretty good tactic and now its even better.

April 25, 2002 02:07 am ET (#26)
Vail
Loyal Fan

260 posts
02-27-02

Antharas has been killed a couple times before on the Dep Server. Was it before he burrowed or something?

April 25, 2002 02:41 am ET (#27)
nihiliumdefence
Loyal Fan

51 posts
03-21-02

NO ONE EVER LISTENS TO ME!!!! WHAT THE GM SAID, I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS ABOUT KILLING ANTHARUS!!! BUT NO ONE LISTENS.. GRRRRRRRRRR

-=o\

April 25, 2002 02:42 am ET (#28)
TOOL
Loyal Fan

162 posts
10-28-01

Keke you can sue nc for a couple of things... one is false advertisement. In the IRreport or whatever it says we have Quality GameMasters and 24hour in game support....well do we???no...look at the report in the news archive in Feburary 2002

April 25, 2002 05:02 am ET (#29)
h2ombre
Loyal Fan

333 posts
02-28-02

Nice observation SkyLin. It's not a program. It's very much part of the game. :)

April 25, 2002 12:34 pm ET (#30)
metroid05
Loyal Fan

68 posts
02-07-02

Holy Flying Fudge-Sickles What kinda fudging crap is this?
This Antharas looked like he had 10 time the health the other one did.
Damn Gms they take our money and time just for this bul**** amusement for them.
This really flippin pees me off Why make an invincible Dragon? I mean what's the point of calling lineage a GAME if you can't beat a mop? Damn you Gms
Man Amer i wished you'd allow me to swear!!!!That way i can really express my self through words!!!! GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

April 25, 2002 04:17 pm ET (#31)
CocaCola
Loyal Fan

2 posts
04-19-02

HK GM dunno much in lineage , the GM in US server is much more responsible
the HK GMs are only good at cheating players, playing the players
only 3 words can be used to describe NCGamania , "on lung 9"

April 25, 2002 05:38 pm ET (#32)
shoyo
Loyal Fan

86 posts
04-25-02

chinese dudes aren't good at managing a mmorpg... -.- it's a shame for our chinese nations.... there are too much example that can prove chinese only cares about making money from an online game, but not care about players who play the game.... examples will be like : jyonline, fantasyforyou (hero), hk server lineage -.-, stoneage, ..... etc etc... *sigh*

April 26, 2002 12:10 am ET (#33)
Lordz
Loyal Fan

1 posts
04-23-02

Firstly, glad to see Vail again O.o!!!! I am lordofknight / ElvenLord....lol...

I am recently playing on HK Dep server. There are no dragons killed by users in Dep Server... Those dragons are too strong...unbeatable.../ . \
I have tried to use an 48lev 24 Dex Elf(enchant and Boe) who using +7HunterBow to hit EarthDragon,however, the result is poor.... How can I just can hit it 4 out of 10...??

Reply to Shoyo, Chinese and Western culture are different...Beside concerning about the players' feeling, earning money is more important... As a HK server player, I won't blame the GMs and NCSoft. Dun you know that, HK ppls just keep using slang to shout at GMs...and Gm just ban those players from chatting...Un-like US server(some of my friends still playing US server), GM will ban those players acc...(my friend has experienced the ban)

So...I just dunno why HK server GMs dun let us kill Dragon(s)...No matter we kill the dragons...we are just still a normal player...we won't morph to God after we have killed dragon T_T

April 26, 2002 07:46 am ET (#34)
Chimaera
Loyal Fan

7 posts
04-10-02

i agree wif post #29, that perhaps someone will be able to tell us
what exactly do GMs do in the game (besides the obvious ~ banning/warning)

its tough even to get support in-game, GMs never heed ur call for help/ to whisper them. its like making a futile prayer to some absent god for some divine intervention ~.~

last time i checked my monthly bills i remember being charged for this great (dis)service...T_T

April 27, 2002 02:07 pm ET (#35)
Isidur
Loyal Fan

11 posts
04-26-02

Ouches that must of hurt...alot!

April 28, 2002 04:55 am ET (#36)
Litmus
Loyal Fan

8 posts
04-24-02

-.-;;;;;
one comment....
US GM....i...i mean all the lineage player in us server ......believes in u..
we KNOW that u r the best!
GO!!! ONE AND ONLY! US! GM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(^^;; dont say anything about this post....i know -.-;;;)

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