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July 05, 2002 11:12 pm ET - research by IronClaw
Supreme Gladiators Tourny Guidelines and Rules

Lineage Gaming is hosting this tourny. We have decided upon the basic Guidelines and Rules for the tournament. The Guidelines and Rules will continue to be updated(modified) over the next week as we prepare for the Start of the Tournament. We will take player suggestions very seriously and will likely add/modify or clarify things before the actually start.

SIGNUPs OPEN SUNDAY JULY 7TH!! SIGNUPS WILL LAST 1 WEEK. The starting day of the tourny will be shortly after signups and will be announced soon. The tourny will last approximately 2 weeks and its based on how many team register.

IF YOU DONT READ THE RULES AND GUIDELINES dont bother trying to play in the tourny.

This is the basic layout...

REGISTRATION....
First thing you need to do is register at Lineage gaming
http://www.templargaming.com/lineage/ . Once you have registered for the forums, you can register your team using the Tourney Sign Up link in the main menu. The Signup page has only 10 slots so if you have more than 10 people in your team add the rest in the comments section. Each Team must have a team name and a team captain and you will be asked to list the team members and what server your team is on. After that has been accomplished, Lineage gaming will list your team in the forums. When the tourny begins, your team is added to the brackets and your team will be randomly matched.

Note: DO NOT ENTER THIS TOURNY UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO FOLLOW ALL THE TOURNY INSTRUCTIONS!
It is essential that all involved use the sytem we have created so that this can remain organized and be a success.

TEAMS....
There is a limit of 130 members for 1 team. Each team cannot have more than 130 lvls of combined experience. Each team has a team name and captain. In the case that a team member cannot make it to a match, the team captain can invite another player to take his place but cannot exceed the lvl cap and that substitute player must comply with all rules and guidelines. A team can only use a sub for 1 player. For instance, lets say a player is lvl 20 and cant make it to a match, so the team captain can add a sub but that sub cant be above lvl 20 nor can the captain use 2 lvl 10 players to make up for the lost team member. Further more, your sub cannot be in any other teams in the tourny. Each team can sub only 1 person so if your team is missing 2 people, your team is at a dissadvantage.

Note: You may only use 1 character and cannot be in more than 1 team!! If you are found participating in more than 1 team, its considered cheating and you will be banned from further Lineage gaming tournies and your tean may be disqualified.

MATCHES....
Once your team is registered, your team will be added to the brackets. The brackets are server specific so make sure you look in the appropriate bracket page. The bracket will show who your opponents are. At that point, you schedule your match with your opponents in the thread created for your match. Also there will be 1 judge that watches your match and ultimately declares the winning team. Before the match begins, the judge will VERIFY your linweb and make sure your team is compliant with the lvl cap. After each battle, the judge will take a screen shot for evidense showing which team won. DO NOT RESTART AFTER DEATH WAIT TO BE RESSED AFTER THE BATTLE HAS FINISHED. Then the judge will post the winning team in the forums. Each match is best of 3 battles. In other words, your team must win 2 out of 3 battles to move on in the tourny. If your team loses, you are out of the tourny but can participate in the Battle Royale at the end. If your opponent fails to show up for the match, then your team moves up in the brackets and the opponents team is disqualified.

Note: All matches are generated randomly so you cannot ask to battle a specific team.


Note: matches will take place at the Kent castle combat area outside the front gates. The battles will be limited to the sand ground area and must be in a combat area at all times during the battles. If a team member steps on the grass or leaves the combat zone during the battle, your team automatically loses that battle. So make sure not to. Also, no match can be scheduled at seige time for kent. If you are a member of the pledge that owns kent then you must leave your pledge for the duration of that match.

SCHEDULING MATCHES...
After your team has been put into the brackets you will know who your opponent is. Its is upto the captain of each team to schedule their match along with one of the judges. Each team must play their match within 48 hrs of its posting. Each match will have a thread where the captains pick a time for the match. If the 2 captains cant come up with a time to battle then the judge will pick a time that he/she feels is a compermise. Again, if your team fails to show up for the match, your team is disqualified and the other team moves up.

Note: The team captain has the most responsibility and the captain is expected to oraginze the team for matches.

BRACKETS...
Brackets are used to display the matches and see what teams are advancing and what teams lost and to whom they lost to. There is a bracket set aside for Dep server and Ken server. Make sure you look at the appropriate brackets for your team at start of tourny.

PRIZES...
The prizes are based on team entrance fee to join the tournament. The entrance fee will be collected at your first match by the judge. If your team fails to give the entrance fee to the judge, then your team is disqualified and your opponent moves up in the brackets. We are having an entrance fee for a few reasons.
1. We feel if there is something to lose , teams will be more serious about being in the tourny
2. This is a player backed tourny and we arent rich enough to support big enough prizes to attract many teams and because its player backed we feel the lineage community should be apart of the tourny in this way.
3. Combining the entrance fees to create a large pot of money is a great reason to win your matches.

Let me give you an example....If 50 teams join the tourny and the entrance fee is 20k (keep in mind this isnt alot of adena once split among the team members) the "pot" would have 1 million adena! Now that is worth fighting for!

The top 3 teams will recieve prizes(adena). Heres the breakdown...
1st place--- takes 60% and Recieves the title Supreme Gladiators
2nd place--- takes 25%
3rd place--- takes 15%

Note: All entrance fees goes directly towards prizes and the "pot" will be listed at the forums. There is NO CHANCE that your money will be used for other than the tourny.

Note: We would like input on an appropriate entrance fee. Right now we are leaning towards 20k adena per team not per individual.

RULES...
1. no coi
2. no freeze spell
3. no heal pots
4. no pledge heal spell
5. cannot exceed 130 lvls combined per team
6. must be registered on LinWeb
7. must be registered at Lineage Gaming
8. no cheating (cheaters will be disqualified and lose the entrance fee)
9. no dogs or summons
10. no res scrolls allowed during battles
11. must be respectful to others (if a team or team member is causing disruptive behavior to the match, the judge will give 1 warning to stop) If the poor behavior continues, the judge can disqualify the team.
12. You can only use 1 character and be in only 1 team. If you break this rule, your will be banned from further Lineage gaming tournies.
13. Incase of a dispute, 3 judges will vote on a majority system and a judge will then implement the decison.

Note: There will be more rules added as needed. Its important to have defined rules to keep chaos low and functionality high. Keep in mind, this is the first tourny developed using an advanced system for Lineage so it may be a bit bumpy at first but we will continue to develope its Rules and Guidelines as we go. Also, suggestions are welcome.

BATTLE ROYALE....
After the tourny all the teams are invited to a massive team battle for the glory of Winning the title King of The Battle Royale. This final battle is event style and will likely be very choatic but it will be fun!! More details coming on this.

Have a Great time !! This is for us all as online gaming Lineage players.

July 05, 2002 11:15 pm ET (#1)
BraK
Loyal Fan

20 posts
07-05-02

I think it is a good idea...btw Anth end on Dep today?

July 05, 2002 11:20 pm ET (#2)
Tran
Loyal Fan

140 posts
06-25-02

good idea /.\? but u need to register on LinWEB /.\ and it's offline how can u join then /.\... =P

July 05, 2002 11:20 pm ET (#3)
guttermouth
Loyal Fan

68 posts
06-15-02

THAT IS ALOT OF RULES!!!! took me a while to read
and BraK u forgot to say "W00t FIRST POST'"

July 05, 2002 11:25 pm ET (#4)
BigPope
LC Admin

622 posts
01-18-02

Linweb isnt offline. Its just that they made it so we couldnt pull data from it and we dont want to update the page manualy every day. haha who would?
Also i think a team of more then 10 people is rather stupid. its so easy for a mage to end 26 level 5 chars

July 05, 2002 11:28 pm ET (#5)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Heres is the ncsoft site LinWeb https://secure.lineage-us.com/cgi-bin/linweb_menu.pl

July 05, 2002 11:34 pm ET (#6)
BraK
Loyal Fan

20 posts
07-05-02

Anyone know if the post on http://www.daysoflineage.amg.cx/ in general boards is true...about anth?

July 06, 2002 12:35 am ET (#8)
Iamaelf
Loyal Fan

94 posts
04-12-02

I assume no XP lost on death and it says no freeze spell does that mean you can para ppl

July 06, 2002 12:40 am ET (#9)
cowman
Loyal Fan

25 posts
01-26-02

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

July 06, 2002 12:42 am ET (#10)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

Sorry to burst your bubble but the 'duel arena' as you called it that's outside kent isn't combat zone......

July 06, 2002 01:02 am ET (#12)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

yes its called a normal zone outside the gates of kent castle and combat will take place there. No EXP loss there atleast for ken...if dep has EXP loss there please inform me asap. ty :)

July 06, 2002 01:17 am ET (#13)
Doomscythe
Loyal Fan

1155 posts
03-21-02

Why don't you hold battles in the Giran Arena? Is it possible?

July 06, 2002 01:23 am ET (#14)
JestRique
Loyal Fan

134 posts
05-09-02

ok heres the problems i see:

1) would 2 teams of 130 ppl fit in that combat area? i know its probably not likely that 2 teams of 130 would fight each other but it is possible.

iron gate guild has a much bigger battle area, but this is just my opinion, and you cant accidentally step outside the combat zone since it is indoors. another place is talking island or skt's combat areas, they are pretty big.

2)will these only take place during kent siege? if they arent then what will be used for the battle area? the little arena, because thats far to small.

.....

July 06, 2002 01:38 am ET (#15)
FlyZ
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791 posts
11-11-01

IronClaw: On Ken you can't hit people in normal zone and that's why it has the tag "Non-PvP". On dep, you can hit and you will lose exp along with going chao. Why not use ti dueling zone, way bigger and it's in a combat zone. There's no difference between that normal zone and other normal zones. In duel arenas, it's all combat and that's why i said it's not combat in the fenced area. You should at least do some research before determining the location of the fights.

July 06, 2002 01:49 am ET (#16)
Dathknight
Loyal Fan

97 posts
05-28-02

LOL why would it be called a dueling zone if u couldnt hit people in it on ken Flyz -.- use common sencse and why not use Kents? maybe it is easy to get to becuase TI costs 1500 adena from gludin to get to if u dont have a book mark and rotc/b-tele o.O and why they dont use TI combay area is because people can block magic from the tree or the small fenced areas -.-

July 06, 2002 02:00 am ET (#17)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

ok i just tested ken kent area and yes u can hit ppl no prob :) However the suggestions for iron gate looks very promising. And no u can not schedule a match during seige time. Also a new rule will be added...no using escape scroll during match ...if you do your considered deceased. :) We chose kent cause it very accessible...area not to small and not to big...also its close to storage and stores.

July 06, 2002 02:01 am ET (#18)
Spyder
Loyal Fan

148 posts
12-04-01

id like to see the faces on a team of 30+ lvl 4 ebolt mages when a elf uses silence magic lol
...my lvl 47 dex elf lookin for team =p

July 06, 2002 02:04 am ET (#19)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Is it true that on dep at kent area that you lose exp and go chao? If so we will use a dueling arena. The dueling arena was the first area we thought about...we will see. No worries and Im happy to see people helping work out the bumps in the system. :)

July 06, 2002 02:08 am ET (#20)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Ok as far as a cap on how many ppl on 1 team....i think we will wait to see as teams register if its even an issue. At this point....it seems highly unlikely and if 1 teams manages to pull it off...wouldnt u guys wanna see that? lmao

July 06, 2002 02:09 am ET (#21)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

IF i didn't apply my common sense, i wouldn't infer that you can't hit in normal zones because it IS ken server and you can't hit in normal. I'm not a ken server player and how am i suppose to know. And if you're too poor to shell out a b-tele or 1.5k to get there, i guess there's no point in entering the tourny because as mentioned, there'll be a entry fee per team.

July 06, 2002 02:28 am ET (#22)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

my previous post in this thread got deleted --:...huk...

okay...RECRUIT 129 ppl to create trial acc so that we can have 130 (including me) lv 1 characters to participate in this thing just to spice things up for the record! any takers?

July 06, 2002 02:36 am ET (#23)
WizSnake
Loyal Fan

260 posts
06-21-02

gigi one mage could take you all out in 5 seconds

July 06, 2002 02:46 am ET (#24)
TwistMeh
Loyal Fan

146 posts
06-17-02

This is going ot be hard to pull off. Knights will have a major advantage cause you can't attack multi-targets with spells like tornado or even fireball. Or am I wrong? If you were able to then having a team of 130 lvl 1 pp doesnt do you any good. Just 1 blizzard mage can take them out. Is blind or poison or slow allowed?

July 06, 2002 02:47 am ET (#25)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

so?
i just want to have 129 ppl with me to set the record =)
doesnt mean we have to win or anything ^^

now come on! any takers?

July 06, 2002 03:05 am ET (#26)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

Blizzard doesn't target.... even in sieges.

July 06, 2002 03:05 am ET (#27)
Muppet
Loyal Fan

39 posts
11-12-01

Just morph them to some stupid monster, and kill them very very slowly... Also if there is a match 100 vs 100. How is that gonna fit in that area?

Why idnt there pledge heal spell? I dont think any mage will be able to enter to this comp, since they are no use... I am a knight and i would take another knight in my team and poor mages wont be able to do much thing if we are both on enchants, braves, etc they cant even run away 0.o Mages need some space so they can run abit do a heal and get in fight again.. In Giran this is possible, but i dont know about Kent, where you go PK for killing people >.<

Man, i've seen it. It will be a big mess.. Ask LinSpatz..

July 06, 2002 03:25 am ET (#28)
Pepper
Loyal Fan

135 posts
02-11-02

I have to pat myself on the back for having the patience to read that SUPER DUPER LONG post. However...not being negative but I predict this is going to be a lot of chaos. It's either that people find it too bothersome to follow ALL those instructions about registering on linweb, then find teams, then pick a captain, then register, then wait to be put into brackets, then have to arrange a time with the opponents/judges, then have to wait for that time and hope that ALL your team mates will be on at that time...That's like too much to worry about..for what...1mil? lol There might not even be 50 teams that will join.

And yea..That place infront of Kent...Sand area? Doesn't seem too big for me lol. What if you accidentally walked out of combat? What if you accidentally pumped a pot? What if you accidentally trigger the wrong hotkey and teleported or something...How can it be guaranteed that no other ppl will interfere? Who are the judges? How can we be sure that no favouritism is involved? How many fights will there be in a day? LOL I have too many questions...Well guess I'll stop anyway cus I won't be possibly joining cus again...it's a knight's game.

July 06, 2002 03:27 am ET (#29)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

more rules to be added....no bteles no rotc no maple wands or pine wands

Discussing heal pledge...innitial thought is that it would be an unfair advantage to those teams that arent all in same pledge. Any spell not listed in the rules is fair game. para cancel blind(keep in mind blind cant be cured by heal pot) etc...curse/poison

As far as chaos...well dont imagine everyone fighting at once...this is because ppl schedule the times for their matches. There is no plan within the tourny that all ppl are required to be at 1 location all at the same time. The organizational issues are done at the website and its layed out in a simple manner. I hope this help clarify things a bit. :) The suggestions have been excellent so far and will make the tourny better.

July 06, 2002 03:32 am ET (#30)
Pepper
Loyal Fan

135 posts
02-11-02

Then again...the tournament will be good for middle lvl people. I mean..first of all, the rich high lvls will rather spend the time hunting and lvling on their own instead of on a tournament for 650k (if the entry fee does come up to 1mil, and that's if they DO win the tourney) Secondly, most high lvls have their chars over lvl 45...So...hard to find friends, who will fit into the 130lvl cap. I guess you can have 2 lvl 52 knights...that's lv 104.

July 06, 2002 03:40 am ET (#31)
Muppet
Loyal Fan

39 posts
11-12-01

Iron you going to get in big trouble if you do these fights in that small area, where someone can go PK, lose exp for a little mistake..

Also, this is a team game right? So why not 3 players from same pledge cant have advantage on others?

July 06, 2002 03:43 am ET (#32)
ElvenHawk
Loyal Fan

39 posts
04-28-02

Ok Everyone should understand, this Tourney is not for Profit, but should be for fun!!

It seems these days that everyone wants money, or time to level.

Just spare some time in your lives to enjoy a little entertainment hosted by fellow well commited Lineage Users

July 06, 2002 03:52 am ET (#33)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Yes..this is for us all to enjoy and have fun with! The money is just a prize but being the Supreme Gladiator Team is an honor. After a few tournies, the winning teams could have a mini tourny for The All Time Champions. Listen guys and my fellow gamers, we can add alot to our lineage gaming experience and have a blast doing it. Theres no way we can make a fool proof system due to so many factors but we can get close enough and have a great time battling with our teams. ! Lets have some fun !

July 06, 2002 03:55 am ET (#34)
Arq_dude
Loyal Fan

6 posts
07-04-02

HHMMMMMMM sux that i wont be here =(

July 06, 2002 04:12 am ET (#35)
RickHunter
Loyal Fan

3 posts
07-01-02

i thought you lose exp in normal zones on ken that are in siege areas...

July 06, 2002 04:16 am ET (#36)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

only during a seige....when flags are up...you are at risk

July 06, 2002 06:44 am ET (#37)
FightDaPower
Loyal Fan

71 posts
05-23-02

what if a team member turns against his/her own team? what will happen then?

July 06, 2002 06:56 am ET (#38)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Boot player off team...bring in sub...and the bad player would be banned from further tournies. :)

July 06, 2002 06:58 am ET (#39)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Brak...i know for sure anth was ended on ken

July 06, 2002 09:12 am ET (#40)
Tissot
Loyal Fan

180 posts
06-22-02

A team consisting of 130 mages that have de-lvled from lvl 48 to 1 and still kept their Spell Power that you dont loose once u got it, WILL WIN.

130 vs 3 o.O

July 06, 2002 10:49 am ET (#41)
Underlord
Loyal Fan

78 posts
12-03-01

lvl 130 is stupid would be better to have 150 lvl cap or 100, so 2 lvl 45+ or 3 lvl 49 people can stick togheter.

July 06, 2002 11:32 am ET (#42)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

It's siege time that you DON'T lose exp. And judging fl owning kent? I can see a lot of problems trying to run it. You will lose exp and going chaos as stated in my previous post on dep.

July 06, 2002 12:55 pm ET (#43)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

...r u guys BLIND? u better come with a lv 1 character on dep and see it for yourself!
every time there's a kent siege, the following pledge will go chao because they kill ppl OUTSIDE siege zone AS THEY RUN FROM SIEGE ZONE:
firstlove (castle owning pledge)
lovefirst (firstlove house pledge)
souloflineage (sub pledge)
lineageofsoul (sub pledge)
pirates (brother pledge, whatever they call it)
siegepirates (sub pledge of pirates)
chinglangbang (firstlove elf pledge)

July 06, 2002 03:08 pm ET (#44)
DarKpLayeR
Loyal Fan

13 posts
06-28-02

yo gigi i got lv 4 mage o_o

July 06, 2002 03:08 pm ET (#45)
Tense
Loyal Fan

22 posts
01-28-02

Well, the idea isn't bad... There is no fun in Lineage anymore, so you shouldn't waste your time with this. Another problem is outside people messing it up (which I would do for sure) because it seems the ONLY fun in Lineage is bothering other people.
Not enough people are going to want to pay for this "event" for it to be worth doing.
Needs more organization, and if it's not well advertised it won't be a popular event. Although a lot of people do come to this website, I am sure most people won't even consider it.
The next time you do something like this, use your own pot of money to start, and then have an entrace fee. Use your own pot of 1500k and then have a 50k entrance fee per team so it is a bigger attraction, hence a more successful event.
If you need help just ask ;P

Hi Pepper

July 06, 2002 03:20 pm ET (#46)
Dathknight
Loyal Fan

97 posts
05-28-02

gigi u forgot DOM o.o

July 06, 2002 03:32 pm ET (#47)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

1.5 mil pot o.o....... They said they aren't that rich o.o

July 06, 2002 05:02 pm ET (#48)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

I die in sieges....

I lose exp....

we'll all lose exp if we lose.....

wouldn't that suck....?

shouldn't they use like the combat zone in TI......

July 06, 2002 05:37 pm ET (#49)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

yea dom too - -:...
ppl complain not using the one in ti because they "can" afford the entrance fee (which is 20k per team) but "can't" afford the ship ticket/tele to ti $$ - -:
tho i wonder...why they still have those wars in ti? hehe

July 06, 2002 07:01 pm ET (#50)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

If you dont like the idea then dont play. If you dont have a helpful suggestion dont say anything. We have already recieved several teams. We dont come into a situation trying to make it fail. We come into a situation and look for ways for it to succeed. If you actually READ the guidelines you would realize that it is organized. For dep we wont being using kent. Some of you make claims here that arent accurate. Flyz, Tense, and others plz look to solve potential issues and be a positive impact for us all as gamers. If you cant do that, plz dont disrupt us who will enjoy the tourny. We at Templar Gaming have held dozens of tournies for other games and have experience. We do realize that Lineage is a challenge but in no way is it not possible. So plz be a positive force and not a negative force. ty :)

July 06, 2002 07:04 pm ET (#51)
ElvenHawk
Loyal Fan

39 posts
04-28-02

How come all the whinner's post all the pure crap on the message boards?

You don't seem to realize there is more to life than Lineage, but still can have some fun with it.....

the fact is if you want to participate you will have to pay a certain amount
and if you are good enough to be one of the top teams you are guaranteed more than you paid for.

But the only problem is that you whine about every single thing that happins you you, most people don't give one half a @$&* about you, this is for everyone out there who is willing to enjoy themselves

Now do your best to support everyone in their well dedicated time to this player operated event!!


July 06, 2002 08:05 pm ET (#52)
SilverRaven
Loyal Fan

1 posts
06-29-02

will i lose exp if i die in tourny? and why u hamper mage with no freeze? thats like telling knight he cant use tsu,only dwarvish short sword^^

July 06, 2002 09:00 pm ET (#53)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

no exp loss in the tourny :) We decided against freeze because there isnt a way for knights to cancel it...we dont want the tourny to be inbalanced so we r trying to make it as far as the game can be. :)

July 06, 2002 09:27 pm ET (#54)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Update...
Response...
1. all things not listed in the rules can be used including dice dagger
2. about the team exp thing over a 2 week period and the chance those players may incease in lvls....this is a great question and we will need to discuss it further.
3. no freeze but any spell not listed is ok to use
4. no chance an item can drop in a non combat zone for ken. As for dep we may need to use an arena. We will see.


Heres some new rules to be added
1. no bteles or escape scrolls
2. no pine or maple wands
3. no rotc
4. no teleport spell
5. no wand of blink

Please continue to add suggestions...we still have plenty of time to solve issues. ty

Note: the entrance fee has not been verified. We used 20k as an example. We will have a poll set up later today at Lineage gaming on the entrance fee. Range 10k-100k per team...We will go with the majority. Personally I would like to see it at 50k but its upto u all.

July 06, 2002 09:34 pm ET (#55)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

any takers on joining for a 130 lv 1 characters (using trial accounts) to set up the record?

July 06, 2002 10:10 pm ET (#56)
Underlord
Loyal Fan

78 posts
12-03-01

Who here even thinks of participating ?

July 06, 2002 10:44 pm ET (#57)
DontSuckOut
Loyal Fan

67 posts
02-15-02

I think this is a great idea. Its too bad I dont play anymore because i would join the tourny for sure. Im wondering who is in charge of this thing. I know IronClaw has some part in this but who else is part of it? You seem to have a real problem there. This thing is going to take 2 weeks and so that means a team cant lvl for those 2 weeks. That doesnt sound too good. I know its a great idea and its going to be real fun but I dunno if people will want to sacrifice 2 weeks of lvling their chars. What is this templar gaming thing and whats the web site for it? Is it a lineage web site? Sorry i ask so many questions I just wondering how this stuff all works and whose in charge. For all those people that are going to take part in this tourny, dont be cheap skates. 100k enterance fee per team. Now thats what i call a big pot. Dont be cheap people. The more money you dish out to enterance fee the more money you have a chance of winning.
anyways keep up the good work whoever is in charge. Hope you got all the problems solved soon. peace out =)
KEN #1

July 06, 2002 11:02 pm ET (#58)
FlyZ
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I was merely trying to help by saying the area you specified isn't combat zone and you will go chao and lose items along with exp. You answered me "yes its called a normal zone outside the gates of kent castle and combat will take place there." I think i would know if it was a normal zone and that's why i said you would lose items and exp. I suggested to use the ti duel zone since it has a decent size. And yet i mentioned to you first about the kent 'duel zone' and i'm not trying to help solve the issue? I pointed out that fact and you shot me down with that. umm k

July 06, 2002 11:24 pm ET (#59)
brandon
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i dont know if this was answered or not, but is there gonna be a tournament on test?

July 07, 2002 12:36 am ET (#60)
DontSuckOut
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Im not in charge or anything but from the way they speak it sounds like its only for ken and dep servers. IronClaw neer mentioned test server. Only ken and dep but i could be wrong.

July 07, 2002 12:40 am ET (#61)
IronClaw
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ty Flyz...yes your questions have helped alot. We think the best spot for the matches will be in skt at the scarecrow training ground. If you havent checked it out lately plz do...It has area for judges and an area for each team to start. Theres no exp loss there or weapon drops there. You cant lose lawfull there at least for ken...I need info for Dep on this.

This tourny will only be held on ken and dep...next tourny we will hold on all three. :)

We have several ppl helping organize the tourny and we are looking for a few dep server volunteers and yes there already is several teams that have sign up and sign ups dont even officially start til tomorrow. lol

We will formally have a responce to the issue about lvl gains during the tournament. It would be ridiculous to not lvl for 2 weeks so we have a few ideas at this point but not perfect yet however I know theres a simple answer just need a bit more time. Suggestions are welcome. :)

July 07, 2002 12:41 am ET (#62)
Pepper
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02-11-02

Ok I guess IronClaw has everything under control so..ya...good luck with the tourney..I'll watch if I have the time =)
And Hi Tense babo -_- Mystyk was asking bout you so I told him you were looking for him o.O

July 07, 2002 12:50 am ET (#63)
Vail
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02-27-02

IronClaw, do you remember the Lineage Tournaments? Or does anyone, for that matter? In the case of those, they even had GMs helping out, and chaos ensued. The Supreme Gladiator thing isn't going to work out, and if it does, it's going to take hours, and it will frustrate the hell out of everyone.

July 07, 2002 01:11 am ET (#64)
Tense
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IronClaw, it's called constructive criticism....I said it is a good idea, and I never said it was disorganized....I simply stated it needs more organization because you are making bad moves by allowing people to sign up for a tournament that still has quirky rules. If someone plans on doing something, and you change the rules after they have signed up before the tournament they will most likely withdraw from the tournament. This is what i mean by more organization. I am in no way trying to take fun out, just give things time ask for the suggestions on rules before you begin advertising.

Another thing, the 1500k pot is just a major attraction for other people to come along and play. It seems this would make it unfair by attracting 52+ players but could easily be solved by allowing only one 52+ player on a team.

If you really want this to be succesful, then don't restrict certain spells. You say a knight has no way to cancel freezing spells, but that would be his own fault for not having an mr set, or a mage on his team to cancel. Why make it so easy for knights, and leave mages almost completely out of the tournament. If you restrict spells, as if they aren't fair (which they aren't) then restrict swords too, that do incredible damage.

The only "fair" rules are:
Level limit (which should really be 150).
One level 50+ player per team.
No more then 5 players on a team.

Everything else is part of the game, and should be treated like it is.

Pepper o.o email me at JVIaynard@aol.com and tell mystyk, theebonhand, and yourvlover to email me also..... I don't have this unfortunate abombination of a game installed on my junk box computer....I think i'm movin to toronto when I finish highschool...I hope it's heavily populated....

July 07, 2002 01:38 am ET (#65)
Zandorf
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02-27-02

As always mages will have to be held back to help everyone's favorite character the knight. First NC says this spell or that spell would be an imbalance to the game and wont put it in. Then Nc says wow a mages -45 AC shouldn't provide the same protection as a knight's -45 AC. Now Templar gaming is saying mages cant use a freeze spell in this tourny? Ironclaw You do know that frozen ppl cant recieve damage unless they are para first right? Anyway, make it fair, or at least possible, for a mage to enter and mages may come. If not, expect a tourny for supreme knight instead of supreme gladiator.

July 07, 2002 01:47 am ET (#66)
IronClaw
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Ty Tense...that post was constructive.

We chose 130 lvls because it is an awkward number. Being awkward, it will create more strategy and allow some lower lvl players to join on a team that needs to fill some lvls. As far as a have only 1 lvl 50 player per team, we dont feel that is to big a prob. There arent to many lvl 50+ players and out of them, I would doubt that all would be in the tourny. Also, whos to say 2 lvl 50 chars and a lvl 30 char would have an unfair advantage. I see your point on freeze but feel that is still is to far of an advantage and there is plenty of spells available to be extremely affective. Theres no doubt that the mage can play a major role in a team for the tourny.

The type of rules that may be added during the week will not be huge changes. People that are playing in the tourny are playing because its a good way to try something new and have some fun. The structure is in place and if we feel we dont have things fully squared away, we can always wait til monday to open sign ups. At this point its all a go to open sign ups tomorrow.

Vail..plz read the scheduling a match area. I see no reason why ppl would need to spend more than 30-60 mins per match and each team plays 1 match every 48 hrs assuming they win their first match. This was never designed to interfere in regular game time in any significant amount. :)

July 07, 2002 02:03 am ET (#67)
Tense
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Freeze does not give mages a major advantage. If the knight sees a mage on the opposing team they can switch to an mr set. having 60%+ mr will significantly reduce the risk of being paralyzed or frozen to almost none at all. If the person does not have an mr set they should avoid the mage at their own risk and if they get hit by freeze spell wait it out for the duration.

People need strategy. With the rules you have now it will be all knight on knight. If you decide to keep it the way you are, then a good idea would be to make separate tournaments for separate classes.

By spreading out the fights for each team, one fight per 48 hours you are guaranteed an unsuccesful "event" because people will lose interest.

July 07, 2002 02:16 am ET (#68)
TLFmaster
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You don't lose anything at SKT training ground, but I think being able to hit the scarecrow without CTRl could be a problem.....

July 07, 2002 02:29 am ET (#69)
IronClaw
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I just tested it...the scare crows are an obstacle but the disadvantage of them are the same for both teams. TI just seems to small. Players need a way to move and utilize the space or run cause their butts r getting kicked. lol Im thinking a 5 man team...see if there is a powerfull 3 man team vs a moderate 5 man team the 5 man team will 2 ppl that can attack or heal untouched. We will see. hehe ;)

July 07, 2002 02:31 am ET (#70)
brandon
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03-31-02

ironclaw collects the entry fee and disappears =P j/k sounds awesome, looking forward to it

July 07, 2002 04:17 am ET (#71)
Cwata
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07-04-02

i haven't played in a month, but tourney sounds unfair. Sound good. Thing is knights aren't limited on stuff they could use. They got braves and tsu, and rap. Mages got nothin. And their major tactic of freeze is out. A hasted/braved knight can knock down a mage pretty fast lol. only chance a mage has is freeze for defense

July 07, 2002 04:18 am ET (#72)
Cwata
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second note. Anyone in DragonCrusade or knows Aerin the princess. Tell her i am coming back soon. My email is Cwata16@msn.com if you can tell her that plz :)

July 07, 2002 05:19 am ET (#73)
FuTyOu
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#38, after lvl 10, you can't de-lvl anymore..
And if you're going for 32-33 lvl 4 mages, bring greens and it's over
even if they do 2-3 dmg a hit, they could take out a guy pretty easy.
Thats if fireball and all those "big time" mage spells aren't useable

July 07, 2002 06:58 am ET (#74)
IRA
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07-07-02

I thought that exactly for this kind of events was that they made giran arena for. it will be nice if the tourney took place in there. (havent play in a while
if im saying something stupid im sorry :) )

July 07, 2002 07:04 am ET (#75)
IRA
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07-07-02

I also would like to suggest that the matches werent only in one place. it would be easier if all the castle-fightzones, arenas, and reasonable big duel areas would be enabled to use them, and easier to schedule too, just a litle chatting between team captains and they can meet any place in aden.

July 07, 2002 08:40 am ET (#76)
TwistMeh
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I dunno about the 30 lvl 4 mage thing, just stand behind a scarecrow and the ebot is no use. Plus a lvl 4 mage have about what 30hp? But it might work, tho, I WANA SEE IT ^^.
Iron, you will need to limit lvl in the 2 weeks to at most 1-2 lvls, cause I can lvl from 1-30+ in that time, heck I can lvl from 1-20 in a day. Be very careful on that rule.
I do think braves and wafers should be out. Mages have nothing of the kind and in the game have summons to compensate, which you do not allow.
Any rules on morphing?
Will this take place before or after EP 11? If you mean to have it before, but NC puts it out, will anything change?
If all spells except freeze is allowed does that mean invisibility is allowed? If anyone has it, if so, how would you know the difference.
TI shouldnt be ruled out, anyone above lvl 10 should be able to get there, and anyone under lvl 10 can go with a escape to SI.
Maybe some prizes for runner up teams? 10k for 1st runner up, and 5k for second? Silver and bronze shouldnt be left out. Just for show at least.
AND SOMEONE SAVE FIREWORKS AND POPPERS FOR THE PRIZE DAY. MAKE THE OLYMPICS LOOK LIKE A 5 YEAR OLD'S BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!

July 07, 2002 12:27 pm ET (#77)
FlyZ
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The top 3 teams will recieve prizes(adena). Heres the breakdown...
1st place--- takes 60% and Recieves the title Supreme Gladiators
2nd place--- takes 25%
3rd place--- takes 15%

You should read the rules more carefully.

I would have to agree on the weapon restriction. A str knight on a +8 tsu would do upwards of 30 damage a hit and what can a mage do to counter it? Freeze spell only lasts 30 seconds and the person doesn't take any damage at all.

July 07, 2002 04:35 pm ET (#78)
DontSuckOut
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02-15-02

Guys you really gotta stop complaining about this mage thing. For so long in lineage all i've heard is a bunch of whiners who say that knights get everything and mages get squat. Well its not true. Why would you want to freeze in this tourny anyways? Wouldnt paralyse be MUCH more affective since you can still attack him when hes para? And you still have erupt and fb and blind and poison and e-bolt and heal and tornado and cancel and weapon break and all those other spells. Every spell I named there can be really affective in this tourny and im sure theres more that I forgot. Knights cant use those spells so how can you say that its not fair? You say knights get to use braves and greens but you get to cancel him. You say knights get to use good swords like tsu but you get to weapon break him. I dont see why you guys keep saying its unfair like little cry baby's just cause you cant use freeze.

July 07, 2002 04:37 pm ET (#79)
MegaMan
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06-26-02

its stupid to have low lvl people like if you had 13 lvl 10 people agains. a lvl 40 mage or lower alone can defeat them ezz. oh yea if you tp fomr arena or die can you be resed if your team mate is dead

July 07, 2002 04:37 pm ET (#80)
DontSuckOut
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02-15-02

MAKE 100K ENTERANCE FEE PER TEAM!!!!!!!!!!! if 50 teams join 5mil is a much better than 1.5mil =)

July 07, 2002 07:27 pm ET (#81)
Yeildarb
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01-19-02

Re; [General]

WARNING: This post contains assumptions.

The winning team will be a lvl 50 and two lvl 40's (the lvl 50 a knight, the others both elves or elf+mage team, or even all knights). The pot was mentioned about 1 million in adena ("Now that is worth fighting for!"). If won, the 60% (for the first place team) would become 600k for the team, or 200k per person. Now honestly, I don't think anyone would really think 200k worth-while (and the majority will have more than 3 people/team. The pot between even 1st Place isn't enough to coax them to put their 20k in, lowering the pot even more). They could make that much hunting instead of wasting time with the tourney. Make it 100k/team like DontSuckOut suggested.

July 07, 2002 10:09 pm ET (#82)
IronClaw
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Cwata...Ill tell Aerin

#74 Ty IRA We have SKT as the default area for matches. We arent opposed to teams using other areas as long as both teams agree and the judge agrees. I see no reason why that couldnt work.

#75 Ty TwistMeh You have touched upon a very difficult issue and that being what to do about the lvl cap and people lvling throughout the tourny. We have a solution similar to your suggestion. Each team will be required to PROJECT how many lvls they may gain when signups open so that at start of tourny they meet the lvl requirement cap of 130 lvls. Also, we dont expect ppl not to lvl throughout the tourny so we are adding a lvl cap cushion. A team will be able to gain upto 10 more lvls after the first round. So to simplify...When signups start Project your lvl increase so your team is not above 130 lvls at start of tourny. Secondly, after the first round is over, you can lvl but your team cannot be above 140 lvls combined. This seems to be the most realistic way to solve this issue.
Morph is fine.
No tames(new rule)
On the Ep 11 issue...It seems likely that the update will occur during the tourny or before. When or if this happens, we may need to modify/add some rules.
Or simply not allow those update spells to be used in this tourny and then allow the update spells etc in next tourny.
No Invisibility Spell (new rule)
I must thank you TwistMeh, your post had some great suggestions and questions.

When or if you die during a match, you stay dead until the match is over. Then you get ressed. If you tele out of the match during battle, you are considered dead.

Entrance fee is not set at 20k per team...that was simply a suggestion. Personally, Id like to see it at 50k per team. Divided up between a team the cost is relatively low. Infact, its likely far cheaper than the cost of an avg seige and if you fight well, you may profit handsomely. :) I have a poll up for the entrance fee at the tourny site but it seems to be not working. Ill have it fixed shortly.

Now...About Signups...We will delay them until monday latest tuesday and we will have a revised rules list and instructions along with the formal opening of the signups in the news.

As for how long we expect the tourny to last...We think 2 weeks is the absolute longest it could last. Its more likely it will last around 6-7 days. At the close of sign ups, we will know exactly how long it will last and exactly how large the pot is. We are extremely close now, so start organizing your teams and get rdy. You may also want to test out strategies to get your team rdy. :)

July 07, 2002 10:11 pm ET (#83)
Aeon
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Hahahahah!!! I can't wait to see the chaos!

July 07, 2002 10:21 pm ET (#84)
IronClaw
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05-30-02

If you are imagining seeing hoards of ppl waiting for the matches, you may be dissapointed. There wont be any hoards. Each match is scheduled independently and to watch those matches you would need to know when and where each one was. This isnt an "event" as many percieve things that occur in lineage. This is a tournament similar to the structure of playoffs leading to world championships!.

July 07, 2002 11:01 pm ET (#85)
MegaMan
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06-26-02

you npcs should put an event when there are kurtz and black knights.

July 07, 2002 11:14 pm ET (#86)
FlyZ
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DontSuckOut: Tornado doesn't hit unless you're at war and it takes your hp away. The last thing you want is your hp going down in a tourny and you already have low base hp. Erupting someone to death is certainly asking for death.

July 07, 2002 11:24 pm ET (#87)
Cwata
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07-04-02

I was just thinking, But there could be two tourney's. Another one could have a larger fee and be a one on one thing. Little less strict on rules. Same ones, but don't limit the mages on spells as much. atleast give them summon. So they will have a chance lol. You could make a one on one tourney or maybe a last man standing thing. But just thought it would be fun to see some of the top players go at it.
Oh and TY Ironclaw, it's really hard to reach people in game when you stop lol. I hope to be back in less then a month. Miss my in-game friends.

July 07, 2002 11:36 pm ET (#88)
Cwata
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Also you could make it fairer to keep it class seperated then you would have best Mage, Knight, Prince, and Elf. That would be as far as the prize money go, but then you could have Those four battle together just to see who wins. Just some suggestions

July 07, 2002 11:53 pm ET (#89)
TwistMeh
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For the person who suggest w-b, para, blind and all that. By the time a mage get close enough to cast those he's gotten hit by the "hasted and braved" knight. I dont know if you've been hit by a hasted and braved knight b4, but you BETTER hope the spell works cause you cannot walk out of the attack easily. The only curse I can remember off the top of my head that's long ranged is slow, and that's been kinda hard for me to cast on MOPs.
If the update comes out will you allow the elf tele port spell? The on where you can tele ne, where you can walk to, on the screen? Prolly not, right?
What happens when there is sabotage, ex. friend of other team joins your and messes up your fight. It's quite easy, all they have to do is tele out of the match or even stand ther doing nothing. If it's a 3:3 match you are pretty much screwed. Are rematches available for those situations?
Are duel times schedualed or do we have some sort of choice. People gotta be at places at weird times, it just happens.

July 08, 2002 01:30 am ET (#90)
Etikilam
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02-12-02

Invisibilty spell should be allowed. When someone casts it, it makes a neat swiish sound and the caster does a casting animation. Theres no mistaking it with someone using a coi. That spell can be countered by ALL CLASSES. Princes, mages, and elves can cast detect. Knights can too with hom's. Its casting cost is ridiculously high, any mage using any spell besides slow, cancle, and heal is asking for death...

July 08, 2002 02:59 am ET (#91)
ElvenHawk
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04-28-02

OK #88 I brought up that question to IronClaw, that is exactly like using teleport spell, or b-tel
so it would be considered out of the rules to do so from my understanding

July 08, 2002 03:14 am ET (#92)
LazyProdigy
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03-17-02

Hi, this is lazyProdigy. I made a level 4 mage and a level 4 knight by delting my mage and elf. I have -65 ac on knight and -59 on mage and a lot of equipment. I also have a level 49 knight that i could use as well. If anyone would like to invite me or join a my team just post here

July 08, 2002 03:22 am ET (#93)
Cwata
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07-04-02

lazy what server you play on?

July 08, 2002 06:01 am ET (#94)
IronClaw
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05-30-02

Cwata...The idea to have a tourny for each class to battle to see who is the mightiest could be done in a future tourny. Con vs Con Dex vs Dex Str vs Str we can look into that. :)

#88 Ty TwistMeh There is a rule for ppl who disrupt(in main post). As for a rematch...judges can call for a rematch if there is interfere...its judges call.
Yes-team captains schedule the matches in a special thread for them at the forums. (its nicely laid out)

#89 Ty Etikilam Wow I almost thought we could allow it based on what you said but there is still one reason why we cant. Judges must be able to see all players to make sure they dont cheat. Example..mage goes invisible takes heal pots...or mage leaves duel area. Great thinking though.

Concerning the freeze spell issue...its a tough call...since this is the first tourny its hard to say how it would be. I just think its the kinda spell that can be abused especially since the teams are small. Losing 1 member to a spell will greatly affect a team. Im just not convinced. Ill try to think of a way it can be used but restricted at the same time. Suggestions are welcome. At this time the spell is out.

We are Sooooooo close get rdy! We will open a forum up tomorrow for ppl looking to make teams. That should help you guys get rdy a bit.
Good Night cya tomorrow :)


July 08, 2002 07:54 am ET (#95)
Ramada
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Finally got to the end of the thread...lol Ok...several things here:

1. On Ken, IronClaw has asked me to be Head Judge. As most of you know me, (Ramada) you know that I'm an impartial person and extremely fair minded.

2. My Pledge, InfinityCircle, and ZTemptressZ's Pledge, ShadowForce did some combat play at SKT, you DON'T lose experience or lawful there. So it's the ideal location as the Arena in Giran's still not available.

3. At the end of the play, we did a battle royal, and StrayMage won it. So, with proper strategy, it's possible for a Mage to do well in this tourney.

4. Sorry IronClaw, but I tend to agree with the general consensus about Freeze. Para/Freeze is a very important tool for a mage.

5. All judges will be folks that I personally know to be honest and fairminded. Favoritism will NOT be allowed.

The thing to remember over all folks is this will be a fun experience for all that participate! We all agree we don't get enough events here, so this is OUR chance to give the people at NC a clue....<<grin>>

Oh, and Aerin's on vacation, so chances are you'll be back when she returns...lol\

Ramada, Prince InfinityCircle
Alitar, Wis/Con Mage

July 08, 2002 10:39 am ET (#96)
FlyZ
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Having a team without all knights is a handicap. If there weren't for freeze, you wouldn't even get close to that knight to even do any curse on him, getting close to a knight on a mage is asking for a death wish. Freeze only temporary disables the person for 30 sec and it's necessary for the mage's survival. I've tested damage on my mage last night and the results are quite intresting... The knight averaged 25.8 damage on 11 hits dealing 284 total damage. That's on my str mage and it has that amount of hp. To remotely do a good success rate on a knight, you would need an int mage but those don't have much hp. 11 hits on a knight goes by quickly and you'll be lying on the ground very early in the match.

July 08, 2002 01:02 pm ET (#97)
Tense
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Why do you have to look for a way to restrict freeze? I said it before and I'll say it again....I know a 2 knights could team with a mage that uses a wisdom has sos and is 18 int and they could freeze 2 people so the 2 knights on his team could 2 on 1 each person 1 at a time, but thats the knights fault for not using some mr items.

1: Mages should be able to heal (themselves)
2: Mages should be able to use Freeze
3: Mages should be able to use every spell (excluding heal pledge, and invisibility)

I don't understand, why do mages have to be so watered down? You make the rules as if mages have unlimited mana. There is no reason for you to be so stubborn IronClaw, people are trying to make it so your "event" won't suck, which is obviously your intention.

If you seriosuly want to make this interesting, then do this:

1: 160 max level team consisting of 4 members.
2: 1 Member of each class (Knight, Mage, Elf, Prince)
3: No healing potions.
4: Fight to the death, teleporting counts as death.
5: Mages cannot heal teammates, only themselves.
6: No coi, mapling opponents.
7: Pine wands are allowed.
8: Exiting the arena counts as death.
9: Backstabbing your team calls for a rematch, and you are banned from playing.
10: 100k entrance fee in advance.
11: NO crying/whining.
12: Fights go on as long as they have to.
13: Disconnects/lag will not effect judgement of the match.
14: NO rematches without a logical reason.
15: If you miss your match, your team can get a scrubstitute of the same level or lower to fight for you. You cannot use the same scrubstitute twice.
16: If you pre-register for the tournament, do NOT level if it will effect the level restrictions.
17: One fight at a time.
18: Higher stages of the bracket will not be played until the present bracket is finished.
19: Breaking of rules will result in tournament ban.
20: Have fun!

July 08, 2002 05:33 pm ET (#98)
Arkaine
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tense if you limit the amount of players on a team it ruins the event cuz thats part of the strategy is to figure out what a team should consist of so your first two rules would make it suck otherwise those seem like fair rules

July 08, 2002 05:47 pm ET (#99)
gigi
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05-01-02

actually arkaine...
a prince/ss is part of the handicapp unless u have a high lv one with good ac and weap
if u cant deal with it, make a lv 1 prince/ss and make all ur other team members strong as hell =P

July 08, 2002 07:51 pm ET (#100)
RickHunter
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How about freeze but no paralyze? it should be one or the other not both. That way they dont take damage adn it gives mages time to drain/regen mp or cast other curses.

July 08, 2002 08:35 pm ET (#101)
Arkaine
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okay gigi but then it should be a min of 1 of each class then what ever else you want. I would still disagree with 4 being the limit to a team

July 08, 2002 09:47 pm ET (#102)
gigi
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05-01-02

okay arkaine..
the 4 being the limit should be taken out
but the lv 160 limit tense suggested would limit the numbers of characters anyway, where as usually 4 would be sufficient as you'll have:
lv 47 knight
lv 48 elf
lv 32 mage
lv 1 prince/ss
which is already 128 lv already, and then 160 - 128 = 32
so you can have at max another 32 lv to spend with the rest o.o
so...you'll have around 4 or 5 - -:...but not too many either even with the 160 lv cap tense suggested

July 08, 2002 09:49 pm ET (#103)
gigi
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641 posts
05-01-02

oh yea amer bigpope or whoever's the staff reading the thread/forum
on the main site i see "3 comments" in this thread link...
maybe it's a bug - -^..it was "1 comment" earlier so maybe you should look at it

July 09, 2002 01:38 am ET (#104)
LazyProdigy
Loyal Fan

22 posts
03-17-02

I AM LAZYPRODIGY. hey i still have 25 mil worth of items if anyone wants post here and join my team for the items. I am quitting after this.

July 09, 2002 04:01 am ET (#105)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

Ok Freeze is in :)
Tomorrow Ill try to finish up the revised guidelines and we will open the sign ups officially!

July 09, 2002 05:57 pm ET (#106)
Cwata
Loyal Fan

51 posts
07-04-02

Lazy what server you on, i am planning on coming back soon

July 09, 2002 08:25 pm ET (#107)
IronClaw
Loyal Fan

41 posts
05-30-02

sIGN UPS OPEN

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