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December 03, 2002 07:20 pm ET - research by amateras
Korean Server observations
Lineage Playforum had a few observations about the recent updates to the live server.

First (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=2994, they noticed that many players were exploiting a bug with the /trade command and COI delay on the Korean Test server. If you type in /trade while wearing a COI, you come out of the COI with no delay at all. I'm not sure it's on the US servers (I'm guessing no), but this is posted to warn everyone about the potential abuse of this bug.

Second (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051003&kid=1618), Orim now sells the Crystal Ball component of the Level 30 Mage quest even though no level 30 quests have gone live yet. Nice pricing, huh?

December 03, 2002 07:21 pm ET (#1)
belgarion19
Loyal Fan

7 posts
02-13-02

darn those koreans...always thinking of something new

December 03, 2002 07:23 pm ET (#2)
DIVERSAL
Loyal Fan

138 posts
10-06-02

CRAP!
100k?!!??!
thats 10 canadian bucks --;

December 03, 2002 07:31 pm ET (#3)
Tweak
Loyal Fan

456 posts
10-21-01

yeha lol 100k for a spirit gem o.O

December 03, 2002 07:33 pm ET (#4)
shoyo
Loyal Fan

86 posts
04-25-02

crystal ball... not spirit gem

December 03, 2002 07:39 pm ET (#5)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

wow 100k just for the crystal ball o.o!!

December 03, 2002 07:42 pm ET (#6)
FrozenYak
Loyal Fan

125 posts
09-30-02

aw nuts..for a second there i thought that was a wind tear

December 03, 2002 07:50 pm ET (#7)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

that crystal ball looks exactly like necromancer ball.....
wish they changed the look of the necro ball back to the way it was before...
cuz it looks so ugly...>_<

oh yea....that /trade thing is true to our servers....
if u're in coi and /trade someone...it uncloaks u...
but not sure if there is a delay or not...

guessing that lvl 30 quest is soon to come......hehe

December 03, 2002 07:51 pm ET (#8)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

100k for a quest item? Like thats not a nerf ~_~
I bet orim plays a knight o_o

December 03, 2002 07:51 pm ET (#9)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

December 03, 2002 08:00 pm ET (#10)
wingzerohero
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-06-02

i bet you anything that the knight wont have to shell out 100k for his quest item... i bet not even half, i bet nothing at all, in fact, i bet all knights will get their quest item in their inventory once they start (heh)

December 03, 2002 08:02 pm ET (#11)
Rincewind
Loyal Fan

279 posts
02-12-02

LOL! Yeah Etikilam! Orim also sells knight quest items for 10a. =P

BTW, anyone know what happened to the Templar boards and when they're coming back up? o.o

December 03, 2002 08:06 pm ET (#12)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

great..another way to nerf the mages - -"...
100k for a quest item????
i really doubt the quest will be worth taking and the quest item u get at the end would worth the money u put into the quests

December 03, 2002 08:20 pm ET (#13)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Necromancer's ball looks totally different -->

December 03, 2002 08:26 pm ET (#14)
h2ombre
Loyal Fan

333 posts
02-28-02

What a cool quest..buy an item from NPC zzzz

December 03, 2002 08:43 pm ET (#15)
Meral
Loyal Fan

33 posts
09-11-02

yea for only 200k lol

December 03, 2002 08:44 pm ET (#16)
Firien
LC Reporter

93 posts
11-26-02

eh, #14 read the articles from last month's archives on the different quests and see which one is the most contorted -.-

December 03, 2002 09:35 pm ET (#17)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

ummmmmm
amer
if u ask anyone who has a necro ball now
they changed the graphics to what u see up there, that colourful crystal ball

I'll even take a screenshot of it if u want
or ask a friend who has one to take one for u

they changed it once they made the cray quest items non-transferable
strangely
we still don't even have a cray quest

December 03, 2002 09:54 pm ET (#18)
PeNTeL
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299 posts
12-11-01

http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051021&kid=3008

48 knight with 1058hp w/ belt/ammy

December 03, 2002 10:13 pm ET (#19)
NordicGlory
Loyal Fan

77 posts
05-14-02

Thank you LC and playforum! You guys telling us all how things are done is the only way to either make NC fix it or at least make sure people dont get advantages using bugs.

December 03, 2002 10:42 pm ET (#20)
Ronin
Loyal Fan

5 posts
05-27-02

lol the knight that has all them hps isnt even 18 con

December 04, 2002 12:23 am ET (#21)
UNIVERSAL
Loyal Fan

109 posts
10-05-02

cool
so expensive tho.. what if u fail the quest? u hafta pay for that stupid thing again?

December 04, 2002 12:39 am ET (#22)
Roland
Loyal Fan

23 posts
10-14-02

NERF A MAGE???? I have a lvl 19 mage and I've already made 200k in 4 days. 100k is nothing to a mage who has summon or a char mage with four dogs. Still I hate the fact that I'm a super weak knight or elf since MP regen is impossibly low. The only time I use magic is to heal and hit mops that are red. Even then I go through 6 blues per hour -.-.

December 04, 2002 01:11 am ET (#23)
sh0n
Loyal Fan

101 posts
11-28-02

#8 lol

December 04, 2002 01:18 am ET (#24)
FlyZ
Loyal Fan

791 posts
11-11-01

So now we're suppose to buy quest components to make the quest items? Why don't they just let you buy the quest item itself?....

Kinda defeats the point of finding components to make your quest item worth your while.

December 04, 2002 01:57 am ET (#25)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

mages should have the option to beat up orim at freewill for that ball
I bet #8 is right
cancel orim
and he'll turn out to be a mean old knight

besides
if knight quest had to purchase something that is 100k....wouldn't really matter
cuz that lvl 30 knight quest item sucks
and knights wouldn't bother unless they r rich...@_@

December 04, 2002 02:00 am ET (#26)
wingzerohero
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-06-02

1)roland play dep or ken first from the start of the old days. Test does not count
2)summon is a spell that you have to be level 28 min, so you dont have it yet
3)200k by level 19 is really good... but i find it hard to believe for some reason if you started from scratch...

this is an obvious mage nerf no matter how you see it. the lvl 30 quest item is not worth 100k alone --;

December 04, 2002 02:22 am ET (#27)
GovernMent
Loyal Fan

137 posts
04-30-02

you can use summon at lvl 19 if you delvl

December 04, 2002 02:31 am ET (#28)
TeronElf
Loyal Fan

185 posts
09-21-02

Amer the thing is sold on our test server too.

December 04, 2002 03:05 am ET (#29)
theperv
Loyal Fan

74 posts
10-11-02

Wingzerohero,

Dont argue with Roland; he is either a knight or an elf.
They have no love for mages and If a mage gets a nerf he goes berserk & wet his trousers out of joy.

#1 Elf In Oren can make 200k in 5 hrs. 40k per hr. On test its 4x that amount. What he got is nothing though after test wipes.

#3 He either plays test or feeds his mage with newb items & think mages are invincible.

This crystal ball thing is another way of saying to Mages to get lost.
Knights & elves pay this much for their quest components (zip). Their quest is simple. Go find a mop & club it on its head & bring back its remains. Typical of warriors' quests. Yawn.

December 04, 2002 03:06 am ET (#30)
theperv
Loyal Fan

74 posts
10-11-02

Wingzerohero,

Dont argue with Roland; he is either a knight or an elf.
They have no love for mages and If a mage gets a nerf he goes berserk & wet his trousers out of joy.

#1 Elf In Oren can make 200k in 5 hrs. 40k per hr. On test its 4x that amount. What he got is nothing though after test wipes.

#3 He either plays test or feeds his mage with newb items & think mages are invincible.

This crystal ball thing is another way of saying to Mages to get lost.
Knights & elves pay this much for their quest components (zip). Their quest is simple. Go find a mop & club it on its head & yank its remains back to town. Typical of warriors' quests. Yawn.

December 04, 2002 03:06 am ET (#31)
theperv
Loyal Fan

74 posts
10-11-02

Wingzerohero,

Dont argue with Roland; he is either a knight or an elf.
They have no love for mages and If a mage gets a nerf he goes berserk & wet his trousers out of joy.

#1 Elf In Oren can make 200k in 5 hrs. 40k per hr. On test its 4x that amount. What he got is nothing though after test wipes.

#3 He either plays test or feeds his mage with newb items & think mages are invincible.

This crystal ball thing is another way of saying to Mages to get lost.
Knights & elves pay this much for their quest components (zip). Their quest is simple. Go find a mop & club it on its head & yank its remains back to town. Typical of warriors' quests. Yawn.

December 04, 2002 03:37 am ET (#32)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

don't forget
this is lvl 30 quest
shouldn't be that hard to make 100k by that time
besides
with my mage, I made good money
it depends on the way u hunt

December 04, 2002 05:33 am ET (#33)
Zedicus
Loyal Fan

33 posts
04-29-02

Yes the coi bug has been around since they added the first 3 sec delay. Not really a bug just a over sight. Very easy to fix too. Just check coi status during the trade() function and your golden.

December 04, 2002 11:30 am ET (#34)
AsianKing
Loyal Fan

65 posts
10-25-02

Cant we get drop, for this crystal ball?? Or we're force to buy this to finish quest. If so than Csom gonna be worth more than 100k lol

December 04, 2002 01:52 pm ET (#35)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

No way is an addition a nerf. Mages are just as they were BEFORE the level 30 quest (if one ignores the test), so no one can complain that the addition of a new OPTION is a NERF.

December 04, 2002 11:03 pm ET (#36)
Foo
Loyal Fan

43 posts
11-19-02

this is what prob gonna be -_-
Knight quest item: Scroll of Identify - 50a
Mage quest item: Crystal Ball - 100k
-_- NC ridding themselves of mages~ at least make the item drop from a mop

December 05, 2002 03:28 am ET (#37)
DarkArmada
Loyal Fan

56 posts
01-25-02

tey love mages they really do --;

December 05, 2002 04:30 am ET (#38)
stupidity
Loyal Fan

132 posts
10-19-02

Well, the mage quest gives something amazingly useful: a staff that increases mana regeneration even more than the mana potion, and probably stackable with it as well.

The knight quest gives a dinghy 2-ac shield -- one whose equivilant (large shield) you could buy for less than 1500 adena. You can't buy a mana staff, or a staff of mana regen. Believe me, NO you cannot -- at least, not at the same convenience or price range.

December 27, 2002 05:46 pm ET (#39)
elvenofpower
Loyal Fan

127 posts
11-07-02

100k!!!!!!!!!!

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