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April 18, 2002 05:03 pm ET - research by amateras

new magic

Lineage Webszone (http://www.webszone.com/zboard//view.php?id=main_news&no=91) has found some details out on all the new Level 1-2 spells (they are all neutral spells):

Ice Dagger (3 MP/0 HP) (Level 1) Store Cost: 140

Wind Cutter (3 MP/0 HP) (Level 1) Store Cost: 140

Fire Arrow (3 MP/0 HP) (Level 2) Store Cost: 560

Stalagmite (3 MP/0 HP) (Level 2) Store Cost: 560

Update from Lineage Webszone (http://www.webszone.com/zboard//view.php?id=main_news&no=92)

Earth Jail (18 MP/5 HP) (Level 4)

April 18, 2002 05:06 pm ET (#1)

QueenNina
Loyal Fan
197 posts
10-31-01

Those are so cool and I can't wait to see them come to the US servers

April 18, 2002 05:08 pm ET (#2)

FrozenSoul
Loyal Fan
119 posts
10-14-01

forget e-bolt

April 18, 2002 05:12 pm ET (#3)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

It's just a bunch of colored ebolts :) Like elemental necromancers vs. dark elder.

April 18, 2002 05:15 pm ET (#4)

QueenNina
Loyal Fan
197 posts
10-31-01

Ice dagger actually looks different from what I can see and the wind cutter sure looks a whole lot different than an ebolt. But then again you might be seeing it diffenertly than me.

April 18, 2002 05:27 pm ET (#5)

dshank
Loyal Fan
34 posts
04-01-02

well, these are obviously meant to address the elemental aspects of the game as we have 4 new spells: ice(water), air, fire, earth.
I'm wondering if perhaps choosing the opposite element of a particular monster will bring more damage. For example an orc's element is Fire and so using the Ice Dagger might do more damage and then it wouldn't just be "colored e-bolts"
We'll see.

April 18, 2002 05:28 pm ET (#6)

mp3
Loyal Fan
193 posts
02-12-02

i want those spells ... so cool

April 18, 2002 05:28 pm ET (#7)

the4
Loyal Fan
20 posts
01-20-02

nci needs to learn how to run a game
mages are alwas getting updates, such as the magic resistance increase, and the mage set, and now this
if there running a game with more than one class, there shouldent be 1 update after another for the one class, if they update for mages, then after there should be an update for elves, princes OR knights
nci needs to smarten up

April 18, 2002 05:29 pm ET (#8)

Luckie
Loyal Fan
151 posts
03-19-02

Pretty.. cool will they be sold by gereng? or in stores? lolz cause i think i forgot my way around TI...hehe
hmmm wonder what those other spells like dicitgrate spear look like... o_O

April 18, 2002 05:29 pm ET (#9)

the4
Loyal Fan
20 posts
01-20-02

anyone agree?

April 18, 2002 05:34 pm ET (#10)

the4
Loyal Fan
20 posts
01-20-02

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh everyone go to http://www.webszone.com/zboard//view.php?id=main_news&no=91, and look at the taxes in kent!!!!!!!! 1400 for a res scroll >.<!!!

April 18, 2002 06:03 pm ET (#11)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

i have seen g-haste pots for 2k+ in windawood

April 18, 2002 06:08 pm ET (#12)

sikrob
Loyal Fan
98 posts
04-03-02

all updates for mages? well, after that stupid new summon rule the mages better get new spells and some mana pots. i know ill be casting a lot more spells w/o bb's. how are mages supposed to 1:1 the hard mops? the ones in werldern take long enough to kill w/ 4 bb's. not to mention dv 4,5,& 6f

April 18, 2002 06:10 pm ET (#13)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

str, dex, sof, p-g and good ac, with this i can hunt until 3f without bugbears

April 18, 2002 06:15 pm ET (#14)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Actually these are significant because of the new mop updates that korean servers got. Ice dagger should be used more on fv monsters etc etc.

April 18, 2002 06:33 pm ET (#15)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

And I agree with you mages get all the good updates. I quit playing my elf because they were always getting screwed at updates, and then they add wafer. O sorry to hard to make so it may as well not be in the game. Here knights were going to put Tsurugi back in game. O sorry it will be 2-handed. >.< Making cancel aggressive has been the best update so far. I think NCI just needs to make sure that the classes stay as balanced as possible.

April 18, 2002 06:52 pm ET (#16)

Presidouy
Loyal Fan
17 posts
04-11-02

actually, these new spells will help elf and prince (except earth jail :( ). the only class not getting anything from this is knights.

As a prince, I am looking forward to having a couple new spells, since I cant get anything over level 2 spells. Anyways, they look cool.

Presidouy

April 18, 2002 07:06 pm ET (#17)

DarkIntruder
Loyal Fan
51 posts
03-07-02

Those spells look cool. Wonder when US gets them.....

April 18, 2002 07:21 pm ET (#18)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Well lets see. We need something to compare by. When did korean servers get dex update? and then when did we get it? O wait sorry that comparison doesn't work...

April 18, 2002 07:30 pm ET (#19)

s1011112
Loyal Fan
75 posts
06-21-02

lol at remarkable similarity between everyone (well..not EVERYONE) here and my whiney little brother

April 18, 2002 07:32 pm ET (#20)

s1011112
Loyal Fan
75 posts
06-21-02

and i believe what amer probably meant in post #3 was that the new spells of same level do the same thing ('cept for elemental damage differences) only they just look different...-.-;

April 18, 2002 07:32 pm ET (#21)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

You refering to me tough guy?

April 18, 2002 07:34 pm ET (#22)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

I just state the facts. I could really give a damn when we see this stuff. All I care about is Cray's test. o.o

April 18, 2002 08:11 pm ET (#23)

InToTheFire
Loyal Fan
142 posts
11-27-01

does earth jail make the person/mop it is casted on stop? and what is the damage on those lvl 1 spells in reference to ebolt?

April 18, 2002 08:34 pm ET (#24)

NeoCross
Loyal Fan
139 posts
03-20-02

This is the most retarded update

Mages summon is the worst idea ever!

Mage magic sucks right now, now that elemental dammage is in, it will suck more in some ways and be better in others, I dunno about you other mages, but I only have 8 Hoy keys....

with all this elemental GARBAGE, how are we gonna be able to have enough slots?

+ the summon fix will pooch screw mages again

Tis why I'm glad about making a knight! We never get screwed because NC forgot that knights existed years ago...........................................

April 18, 2002 08:34 pm ET (#25)

PROKNIGHT
Loyal Fan
40 posts
02-20-02

i cant believe mages are complaining. Mages are jsut lazy u get more spells better summon mops. If u lvl to 52 u get dk morph and kbbs dang all u mages need to stop winning. Knights dont even get 1 handed tsu and lets not mention the dragon slayer which we will never see. All i can say to u mages is stop whinning and hunt.

April 18, 2002 08:47 pm ET (#26)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

haha yea hunt thats what we all do ^^ i like all teh updates. Besides why are you guys compaling about so much i mean u have erupt and blizzard and all other spells and i know erupt hurts and mulitple blizard and tornado hurt. All you ahve to do is learn how to use the spells effincantley ^^

April 18, 2002 09:09 pm ET (#27)

darkfighter
Loyal Fan
3 posts
03-19-02

YEAH!!!
multiple tornado hurt, if i get 3 GSA on me, i use 5 tornados and 5 g-heals while im doing that. now thats what? 300 mp

now if MR.Ramza here can tell me how i can pull off 2 such "tornado battles" one right after the other, id be very greatful.

The fact is, after one such battle, it takes me 5-7 mins whacking normal ants to get the mp back. this situation is even stupider in DV where it takes 7-8 tornadoes to end a group of mops.....well at least dv has good mp.

April 18, 2002 10:06 pm ET (#28)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

When are the spells comeing to US test...

April 18, 2002 10:17 pm ET (#29)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

hm im tlaking about a seige not on mops now i know my mr is crap but still in a paticular siege that i was in almsot everyone was pumping pots after 3 mages casted 3 tornado and blizzard on us neversaw my hp fall so fast in my life ^^ but come on man my friend had summon but never used it. all u need is ure som some mops and ure g heal spell everyday he was maiking 100k he only quit because his fb hit other peeps dogs and he wasnt holding control so he went chao. He knew how to hunt jsut know what you are hubnting and you iwll do fine

April 18, 2002 10:22 pm ET (#30)

Myst1K
Loyal Fan
24 posts
04-17-02

DO THEY EVEN HURT? --;

April 18, 2002 10:39 pm ET (#31)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

the spells probaly not

April 18, 2002 10:40 pm ET (#32)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

About the 8 slot thing.
Hotkeys wouldn't be a problem since you would be only hunting at one place with a similar element. so you would only use a few spell opposed to many diff spells.

April 18, 2002 11:07 pm ET (#33)

Zandorf
Loyal Fan
9 posts
02-27-02

Ok heres what I say.
Knights quit complaining about mages. You have WAY better AC than anyone plus braves and haste to speed you along plus way more hp than mages plus you can carry alot of pots. Also not everyone uses summon to take every MOP on the screen for themself.

April 18, 2002 11:12 pm ET (#34)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

Oh i dont need to complain after this update. after this update, mages summon = 2 monsters. 4 only if they 18 chr. Mwahahahha Knights shall prevail!

April 19, 2002 12:03 am ET (#35)

elvinkind
Loyal Fan
236 posts
03-02-02

spells r ok but no dmg
should i start my knight?
they probobly get next update^^
them or princes but if u ask me
princes suck
if they got like some exp or something from there pledge killing things that would be kool but o well

April 19, 2002 12:05 am ET (#36)

elvinkind
Loyal Fan
236 posts
03-02-02

does ice thingie freeze like ice lance?
if so than it would be one of the new best spells 4 mages

April 19, 2002 12:06 am ET (#37)

elvinkind
Loyal Fan
236 posts
03-02-02

ah wut am i saying!
we probobly won't even get the spells just like dex bonus -_-

April 19, 2002 12:21 am ET (#38)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

yup, knowing nci we probally wont get it at all or get it VERY late.

April 19, 2002 12:41 am ET (#39)

Preebs
Loyal Fan
34 posts
01-10-02

I've posted it before, and I will post it again.

One of the best updates that we will never see on the US servers.

April 19, 2002 12:43 am ET (#40)

SonShadowCat
Loyal Fan
98 posts
02-02-02

almost makes me want to play on the korean servers

April 19, 2002 01:07 am ET (#41)

Spyder
Loyal Fan
148 posts
12-04-01

off topic but Amer plz wipe my LORD char, i picked the wrong class...i cant beleive you wiped :( my mage was great...

April 19, 2002 01:09 am ET (#42)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

Cha/4 would be ok with +1 extra

April 19, 2002 01:09 am ET (#43)

Alanc
Loyal Fan
167 posts
02-09-02

its like and e-bolt of every element... (not including earth jail)

April 19, 2002 02:35 am ET (#44)

Blahk
Loyal Fan
234 posts
02-02-02

I think mp pots shouldn't make the mp gain faster, should do instant mp gain, that way you can do like ramza said..and keep using fb/tornado/blizzard/(is there earth multi attack spell?) and still have enuff to heal you and ur summoned mops. Also mages will get exp faster cuz they dont have as many monsters to steal their exp. If mage pots still dont help that much..then forget everything i said.

April 19, 2002 03:27 am ET (#45)

omega
Loyal Fan
38 posts
12-01-01

that sounds cool... o has anyone noticed that the US could kill Fafurion because of his attack power. It is the weakest of all the dragons.

April 19, 2002 03:31 am ET (#46)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Umm...... These spells should be a small part of ep 11.
Ep 11 would be mostly for mages as nc stated some time ago and we would get these updates but probably at least 1 month late.
I'll be first to say that the update doesn't suck and i'm looking forward to them.

Flame on.

April 19, 2002 04:44 am ET (#47)

Li
Loyal Fan
62 posts
03-05-02

...fire arrow...
is there OTHER elemental arrows?...
fire arrows shouldnt work on fire mops now do they?.....

April 19, 2002 05:46 am ET (#48)

Blockbuster
Loyal Fan
6 posts
04-11-02

LOL PROKNIGHT is so funny. He's right though mages shouldn't complain cuz we would get king bbs at lvl 52. So all the lvl 52 mages can rejoice. Ummmmm oh yea only one in the world, on a korean server. Just a sec, let me go get lvl 52 so i benefit from such an update. brb

April 19, 2002 05:51 am ET (#49)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

where is the elemental shields?

April 19, 2002 07:32 am ET (#50)

ruri_kyo
Loyal Fan
6 posts
04-12-02

can elf use those magic??

April 19, 2002 07:37 am ET (#51)

Admah02
Loyal Fan
73 posts
01-13-02

lol blockbuster

April 19, 2002 07:52 am ET (#52)

Nitrogun
Loyal Fan
229 posts
03-17-02

OMG now i never can hunt DVC 6th again with 2 skel guards --.-- how do i make 5mil each week now 0.o

April 19, 2002 08:48 am ET (#53)

computerguy
Loyal Fan
113 posts
01-09-02

And for all of you people who are saying that us mages are complaining for nothing then think again.

mages where never designed for taking out multiple monsters only big tough guy. Knight can hunt for a very long time while us mages run outta mp. Erupt really badly sucks it uses alot of your mp and life and it normally doesnt kill to many things in 1 hit exept for those newb things. Then finaly summon is ok but it costs rare items and they are still pertty vunerableb (bugbears) i bet all ur kngihts could 1:1 them my level 20 knight can.us mages with out summoning and then even up to level 36 we dont even summon cause the other mops SUCK. and then of course mages only use e bolt to sick their dogs or bbs on something us mages also really want to use magic fast and hunt alot but we cant. Must of those new spells will be forgotten in a while. Every on will use then then see they arent all that good then POOF! no one uses em. You people should start compaining when we got all of the spells open for us.... Mages will start a pk spree with disintegrate hehehehehe.....im so evil.......

April 19, 2002 09:42 am ET (#54)

Sunrunner
Loyal Fan
19 posts
02-08-02

Question:
Are we ever going to use ALL these spells?
I mean, can we hot key all these spells?
What's the point? yea it's cool.. new spells and all...
but to give up my bb's for these low lvl spells? NOT!

April 19, 2002 10:53 am ET (#55)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

To Post 53.. what are you trying to say?
Too many typos that i got lost o.o

April 19, 2002 11:05 am ET (#56)

s1011112
Loyal Fan
75 posts
06-21-02

those arent the only spells that are new -.-
if that's what you're implying

April 19, 2002 11:21 am ET (#57)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Well now.... It seems our wittle mages have been spoiled. No more summoning 8 bb's and sitting back with a cappachino while they do all the work. No more camping drake. No more canceling knights then hiding behind your summoned mop. And for chirsts sakes no more earning 5000k a week with no effort. 2 bb's is all you really need anyways. And it appears that our mages will now have to concentrate a little bit on leveling. I would argue that there are only a couple of mages on Dep that know how to effectively use there magic. I don't know what that involves because I don't play mage, but if there is a mage out there that has no problem with only using 2 bb's and still levels and makes money please stand up. We would like you to give the rest of these whining spoiled mages a class entitled "How to play mage 101". As a mage you should be less reliant on your summon mops and more reliant on your latent magic abilities. Especially when higher level spells are more common. If you don't like that then go make a knight. Funny how you don't hear us knights bitch, and we never get anything....
(The previous statement was written under the assumption that this update will make it to US servers... course we all know what happens when you assume...)

"I'm not a playa I just fu@k alot"

April 19, 2002 12:22 pm ET (#58)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

hmmm, I hope my elf can use these new spells - And the new mp pots :( elf mp regain is sooooo slow...

I like the new update, only 4 types of summon kinda sucks - Tho I think it would better is it was based on your sp not lvl.... int mages should be best of all mages ;)

April 19, 2002 12:26 pm ET (#59)

SnIsGa
Loyal Fan
8 posts
12-04-01

I got a mage too, Dreamcaster, mages are the best class in the game, to make money to hunt, and elfs are being forgotten, WE NEED SOME SERIOUS SH1T NCSOFT

April 19, 2002 12:26 pm ET (#60)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

Oh btw - whoever asked if there were elemental area affect spells a news update a while ago mentioned spells like: earth jail, cone of cold, frozen cloud - The sound quite cool... I hope these new spells produce other effects like para/poison (earth jail, freezing spells?)....

April 19, 2002 01:36 pm ET (#61)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

hey snisga...

I had a thought - I remember someone saying that class-speicfic spells were coming in. What if all these elemental attack spells (and the shields, if they ever appear) are for mage only. Wouldn't this kinda make mages able to survive better in the element areas (DV, valakas layer, heine) than other classes (such as elf and prince who can use some of the new spells).

April 19, 2002 02:35 pm ET (#62)

Mighty
Loyal Fan
34 posts
03-21-02

I agree with cruelgame. I have a dex elf and have to work my butt off w/a lvl 37 dob to make 10k an hour. This in dv, only place a lvl46 elf with bad ac can get experiance and cash. I watch mages with their 8bbs taking every mop, standing around watching, while they get all the drops. Then they get mad if I shoot one of "their" fire eggs! Ya, right! Some day, when we get dex update, the world be sorry for treating us kindly elves so bad...Muahahahahahhahahaaa!

April 19, 2002 02:38 pm ET (#63)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Yay- elf taking matters into own hands. Boo- bb mages that ebolt 5-6 mop on screen then get mad at you for "stealing". I can assure you if your bb mage is attacking more than one mop at a time I will steal it. : ) But you won't really know it's me cuz you don't really know who my knight is. muahahaha

April 19, 2002 02:39 pm ET (#64)

Mighty
Loyal Fan
34 posts
03-21-02

Amen, my human brother!

April 19, 2002 03:32 pm ET (#65)

Blockbuster
Loyal Fan
6 posts
04-11-02

People in game are always talking about how crappy and weak mages are w/o bbs. Well guess what. If this update comes then all mages are gonna be crappy and weak 24/7. Also, you never hear knights complain cuz the game is designed for a knights. If mages are supposed to be self-sufficient then NC should give them spells that do damage and MP pots.

April 19, 2002 06:56 pm ET (#66)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Mages are sufficient with the right equip and won't depend on summons or pets at all....
ruben [post #13] has my point

April 19, 2002 06:59 pm ET (#67)

Blockbuster
Loyal Fan
6 posts
04-11-02

sof, pg's and ac....in other words self-sufficient after lvl 46 or 47, gotcha.

April 19, 2002 11:13 pm ET (#68)

elvinkind
Loyal Fan
236 posts
03-02-02

ya elf do regenerate really slow and who cares about taming? i not ganna go spending 30 mp a try on trying to get a scorpion or something my god!

April 19, 2002 11:51 pm ET (#69)

ToshidinGoblinGuy
Loyal Fan
28 posts
03-21-02

I thought the level 50+ Knights learned level 1 spells...Won't they get the new level 1 Spells if this ever comes to U.S servers? if so Great for them hehe^^ and why complain over any class 0.o all class' have something over a different, may not seem fair to many but we still have things over other class' even my prince that i play on ken server has certain things over other class' for example only us and knights get 2dogs without placing more charisma which can be great at times bad for % sometimes if you hunt wrong, and i think this summon thing is going to improve certain aspects of game play such as would be horrible for a mage with 18charisma, red knight's cloak, and charisma amulet(if gotten yet) would mean that mage can summon 10 monsters, which would mean they really get alot of $ in the time they hunt if were possible and this system would be abused very badly on the dep servers such as more pking then ever if they had enough time to be just doing this, i also like the sof/20str/str spell/str ammy/pg on a mage idea sounds great i still wonder why people complain about the intelligence amulet, because a mage with 18int/sos/wis pot/int ammy would hurt when casting spells,regardless of spells, so i just say quit complaining, take the things you have in the game and learn how to truly use them to your own advantage and anyways,its only a game =P cya.bye

April 20, 2002 12:53 am ET (#70)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

I'm pretty sure I'm correct when I say this....knights regenerate MP faster than elves.

April 20, 2002 04:45 am ET (#71)

NeoCross
Loyal Fan
139 posts
03-20-02

Oh I forgot, lets all run out and grab those SOF's, PGs and STR Ammys that are laying all around Aden.... Oh I forgot, u gotta be super rich to get those...
AHEM
mages will only be self sufficient after lvl 47-48 soon

To Cruelgame: 2 bbs is all u need?
2 bbs sucks big ones ... you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
2 Dogs are 100x better than 2 bbs so basically the need for summon is again lost
"a mage you should be less reliant on your summon mops and more reliant on your latent magic abilities" -IF mages could use the so called magic u think we have infinite ammounts of like u say then I would say to hell with summon, period.
The point is, mages cant run around for 30 hours like knights just whacking shit away all night long. Mages run out of mp FAST.....

Now then, u said ". Funny how you don't hear us knights bitch, and we never get anything..." - to that I say, I am a knight and I know just as well as anyone, knights get everything lol.
We got in the beginning, ALL armors, and ALL weapons, we have BRAVES, Haste, lvl 1 spells at lvl 50, massive carrying capacity, even magic helmets. Tsurugi is 2 handed, booo friggin hooo
Does or can mage use Tsurugi? HMMMMMMMMMMM? its still a NEW weapon designed for Knights...
mages get new lvl 1 tidly dinky spells
that will overall help mages SOO much *sarcasm*
think about it...

I dunno about you, but I have always with exception of ONE time summoned 4-6 BBS
if you ppl get the impression that every single mage in lineage summons 18 freaking Bbs, u are way off, we usually work with 4......
Prince gets 3 dogs.... if those dogs are 40+, then thats way better than 4 bbs or 6...
should prince get nerfed now too? well according to your logic shown so far, HELL YES they should
in reality, no they shouldnt

Next on the menu is all you who whine about mage being in DK morph with 2 KBBs..
WELL I DUNNO ABOUT ALL OF YOU but I have never seen a lvl 50 US mage on any server, ever. That said, consider how long the servers have been open...Think about it, no mage in existance is lvl 50 or will likely get to be lvl 52 within the next couple of years, and you think theyre gonna be rolling around like PR0 soon in their DK morphs and KBBS? I gurantee that is a negative.
mages are complaining now because they are getting nerfed
Some ppl have spend their entire time using mages, the second hardest class to lvl, on getting 40+ for their BBs and now that they are there, it seems that all their work is in vane. THAT is why people complain, because they just busted their asses for months or years for NOTHING. As a knight, I know thats wrong, as a player, I know its wrong.
Would you Sir be complaining if all the sudden, 75% of all your armors and weapons were disabled for your knight? HELL YES YOU WOULD. I would, everyone would. Do you think mages would think it was fair? I doubt it, knights were made for their ability at all armors/weapons. mages for their healing and summons Elfs for their long range and item creation abilities, princes for their pledges

when u completely nerf a part of a class, it sucks, just because it makes you happier ingame doesnt make it the right thing for a company to do. I will be personally glad to take on Drakes again without 1000 bbs camping drake spawn, but on the same token, I know how much this will hurt mages and will complain with them. Scorpions are "OK", Skeleton Guards though? You cant even heal them. How is that a good update for a mage? ALL of the new spells will just be flowery updates of the same old spells with elemental differences. Didn't you read earlier about how hard they were making it for newbie mages soon? where mops build up elemental resistance as a spell is repeatedly used? well what about that lvl 5 mage trying to ebolt a WW? it used to take 3-4 hits, but now how hard will it be? 8? 10 hits? mages that young most certainly don't regen 3mp/second so they will die or teleport because what else could they do?

Nerfing a class is completely immature of NC to do to lineage and I for one am against it. Who knows how long it will be until NC decides that Knights no longer deserve all armors/weapons or Knights need not have HOM or use scrolls.
Who knows when NC will decide elfs don't deserve dogs at all since Dogs are Man's best friend, and not elfs....

Who knows? Nerfing a class to suit your fancy is immoral and no mage will be happy with it.
If this update comes through, you will all see summon go from expensive, to laying on the ground because the remaining mages will have STR instead of charisma so they can be like knights and one day after their retirements in RL, can see those fabled KBBs and DK morphs. If this update comes through, mage class will be retired.

Notice I won't complain about Dex/Ac because it is a good fair update effecting all classes and PENALIZING NONE. If knight has some dex, he will get SOME ac, its not like KNights LOSE ac is it? No because Knights arent being nerfed.
The only bad thing that I KNOW is with Tsurugi being a 2hs and thats not being nerfed as we were lucky to get it at all.

If you wanna nerf mages, increase Mgem usage or mp requirement
NC Will most certainly lose customers if they decide to start nerfing classes in and out of updates.

Complain and Flame whatever u want but realize that the world doesnt revolve around you and someone elses hard work is going down the tube.

April 20, 2002 04:46 am ET (#72)

NeoCross
Loyal Fan
139 posts
03-20-02

*looks back over his last post*
wow could I please win some sort of ranting award please? hehe

AND TO ADMIN OF THIS BOARD

if you would simply put mop sizes in the monsters section like I asked 8 zillion times, I wouldn't be here chatting I'd be ingame hunting.

April 20, 2002 05:47 am ET (#73)

Ramza
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722 posts
01-11-02

Neo man u need to kinda otne it down do you think nc korea hasnt thought of this stuff. They are not trying to make mage any harder or "nerf" them as you have said. Hvae you forgotten Som is out and a mana potion is comming? My friend was a lvl 45 mage and hated summon all he used was a dog and made money no problem he was strong as hell so i dont know what you are talking about. if you dont like that they are going to do with the mages paly a knight or a elf or maybe even a prince you have your own choices to make. I for one like this upcomming update once it reaches US shores (if it does). If you still dont like it there are many games for you to try out.

April 20, 2002 04:23 pm ET (#74)

NeoCross
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139 posts
03-20-02

The point is I DO play knight, I dont even have a mage, but I can see a nerfing when it comes. So your friend plays mage without summon, it doesn't mean lots of others play with it and specifically for the reason of summon. SOM is fine, but it drains very slow and for a high lvl to get good experience, it would have to drain ALOT faster. Mana pot is not instant mp gain, its just fast regen, that won't help in the middle of battle when mages need to use up their mp to stay alive. lvl 45 mage, does he use SOF and PG and STR and Str ammy? because thats the only way a mage CAN be strong as hell, my woman hits me with her +6 SLS or +6 SOM and most oftenly misses, when she does hit, its not much hp gone, and she's lvl 45, I'm 27 *account deleted to NC's stupidity*
Without all the items that cost a fortune in adena, mages CANT be strong without using attack spells, and those most oftenly drain mages FAST.
Anyone can make a lot of money with dogs if they are used correctly, I personally used to take a couple of dogs to the desert and hunt for hours without wasting a single pot, bring in 40-50k each time I did it, using a KNIGHT.
Then I come here and see people complain that mages make too much money.
Mages do the same thing that knights do, except their dogs (BBs) are in a greater number and they cant collect.. They either hit and run like knights do, or hit and hit while pets help, LIKE KNIGHTS do. For everyone who complains that Mages just hit and run and thats all they do, that is THEIR Business, you can do the same, no matter what class you are. As a Knight, you are better suited for it ANYWAY with braves, same as Elf. your Point I think is to make all mages like knights.
That is a mistake in my opinion, if people wanted knight like mages, theyd make elf/knight/prince. Mage is and will always be for summon, ruining it is plain and simply a mistake.

April 22, 2002 03:50 am ET (#75)

ToshidinGoblinGuy
Loyal Fan
28 posts
03-21-02

Neo this is only a game big deal about the company changing it,is it actually going to effect our lives,i think not be angry if you want over a game but do not spam things with complaints over what you disaprove of, because plain and simple none of us that are reading this have any power over nc interactive so i say send your complaints to the company not a post section so just think about it cya.bye

April 22, 2002 08:39 am ET (#76)

Akvavit
Loyal Fan
23 posts
01-15-02

Wow! On a totally different note... Wind Cutter spell! Will it have have residual damage due to lingering smell? Will it do double damage to fire elemental MOPs, since they will ignite the spell and cause Blue Flame? Will it create a bubble spell similar to Faf's?

Enquiring minds want to know!

August 25, 2002 07:18 am ET (#77)

Doomscythe
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1155 posts
03-21-02

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SPELLS!! SO COOL!

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