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April 18, 2002 04:46 pm ET - research by amateras

Korean Test server update on 4/18

NCSoft - Korea (https://bbs.lineage.co.kr/lineage/new_announcement/pre_lineage/read.asp?ListNum=25&NoticeID=2&PageNum=1) reports the following updates made to the Korean test servers on 4/18:

Summon and tame have been changed to limit to CHA/6 monsters. However, mage and prince classes get a +1 bonus and elf class gets a +2 bonus. So, a CHA 12 mage would be able to summon/tame a maximum of 3 monsters. A CHA 11 elf would be able to also tame up to 3 monsters.
In addition, the monsters that can be summoned have changed:
Level 28: Werewolf
Level 32: Lizardman
Level 36: Ratman
Level 40: Bugbear
Level 44: Scorpion
Level 48: Skeleton Guard
Level 52: King Bugbear
A new item "mana recovery potion" has been added. This item will let you recover mana at a higher rate, based on your WIS, for 10 minutes.
Elemental resistance has been added to monsters. So, for example, a fire monster would receive less damage from a fire-based spell, but extra damage from a water-based spell.
10 new spells have been added (in addition to Greater Haste). The level 1 and 2 spells will be available from the town store. Higher level spells will be dropped by monsters based on their element. For example, fire spells will drop from Valakas area, water spells from Heine area, earth spells from Dragon Valley area and wind spells from the rest of Aden.
You cannot give items to store NPCs and scarecrows any more.

April 18, 2002 04:48 pm ET (#1)

VoLT
Loyal Fan
174 posts
12-02-01

haha bb mages.. got it up the ass again.. exept for the high lvl bb mages

April 18, 2002 04:51 pm ET (#2)

Neo
Loyal Fan
219 posts
12-05-01

Awesome update they got.
first bb mage will screw game less with "less" summoned mop and thats nice.
even im a mage myself i like the idea.
I know theres few chance to get it in USA server but it would be very nice ;)

April 18, 2002 04:59 pm ET (#3)

FrozenSoul
Loyal Fan
119 posts
10-14-01

what the hell? so 8cha mage can only summon 2 mops?

April 18, 2002 05:07 pm ET (#4)

xTICTACx
Loyal Fan
58 posts
02-20-02

i like the idea of having new MONSTERS you can summon but come on reducing the number of summoned monsters will throw everything..off.and mages will be sucky..

April 18, 2002 05:08 pm ET (#5)

SoNic
Loyal Fan
7 posts
04-17-02

chr/6 --;;;
nth to say --;

April 18, 2002 05:10 pm ET (#6)

QueenNina
Loyal Fan
197 posts
10-31-01

The cha/6 sucks but the new mop is not to bad, but it should be lvl 50 for the kbb's and not 52, hard enough to get to lvl 50, 52 for a mage is really hard.

April 18, 2002 05:30 pm ET (#7)

Luckie
Loyal Fan
151 posts
03-19-02

yea but getting from 49-50 is same as 50-51, 51-52 so it doesn't amke too much off a difference acuse once you learn how to lvl well at lvl 49 you just stay with that.

April 18, 2002 05:40 pm ET (#8)

mp3
Loyal Fan
193 posts
02-12-02

ok... i am gonna lv my mage now... before mage was only $ maker, and i leveled knight. Now i want kbb ... so imma level mage just 5 more levels -__-
1 more thing ... we better be able to heal skel guards... otherwise... ya...

April 18, 2002 06:00 pm ET (#9)

Aegir
Loyal Fan
7 posts
11-08-01

LOL so first they decrease the hp of BB's (to 250 i think), now they reduce the total number that can be summoned. ROFLMAO (Assuming the changes are adopted over here). So happy i have been leveling my knight.

April 18, 2002 06:04 pm ET (#10)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

skel guards and scorps are great because they attack from 2 cells and they are stronger than bugbears, would you like to see 30 skel guards or 30 king bugbears in the drake spot?

April 18, 2002 06:05 pm ET (#11)

Dlirk
LC Reporter
75 posts
01-06-02

my mage has 8 cha so +1 that is 9... so he summons 1 monster... I dun care if it is a skel guard or a kbb I'd rather have 4 bbs than 1 skel or kbb or scor...

But whatever, I'll just use my knight then cause mage would be worthless

April 18, 2002 06:09 pm ET (#12)

Dlirk
LC Reporter
75 posts
01-06-02

And furthermore why can an elf tame more monsters than a mage? Isn't a mage supposed to own them at magic. I understand for sake of gameplay elf maybe should tame more monsters but realistically a mage should be better at taming because it involves magic. Should maybe make summon and tame based on spellpower for mages and elf...

April 18, 2002 06:18 pm ET (#13)

Tweak
Loyal Fan
456 posts
10-21-01

OMG if i see a STR mage in dk morph with 30str and 2 knig bb hasted... OUCh

April 18, 2002 06:20 pm ET (#14)

sunshine
Loyal Fan
20 posts
03-10-02

notice sparts and skeles were taken out from list of mops you can summon...I dont think its a good idea to increase the char needed for summon but i do like the new mops to summon. I'll miss my bb tho T.T at least ill have skele guards soon^^

April 18, 2002 06:24 pm ET (#15)

Myshella
Loyal Fan
77 posts
03-04-02

if nc put that on summon i quit lineage...
2bb...
2 skelton guards.. and you can't heal them cause r undead.. o thx nc..
if this update arrives in us servers i think many ppl will quit..

April 18, 2002 06:27 pm ET (#16)

Pooch
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-10-01

Ohhh yeah I -really- hope this makes US servers. All those rotten cha mages with 10 bbs running around will be down to 4-5 bbs or scorps if they can somehow level those worthless chars. So sweet, I won't cry for my worthless summon mage....ahhhahahaha. This is truly going back the direction the game was meant to be played, with interaction and balance. Now summon won't necessarily mean you can hunt and succeed -everywhere- by yourself. Very very good, and the elemental spells being added is also quite handy.

April 18, 2002 06:30 pm ET (#17)

SteelEye
Loyal Fan
37 posts
12-10-01

Dlirk,

the +1 bonus means that you can tame 1 monster more than your charisma allows... So with 8 cha you would be able to tame 1 monster,and the +1 bonus makes you able to have a second one. Thats why a cha 11 elf can have 3 monsters: 1 for the 11 cha and 2 for the +2 (elf) bonus.

Guess we need to adapt to the lower number of summons, but anyway, eventually it will work out. The updated summon list is super cool, and I'm pretty sure that I won't need 4 bugbears anymore once I reach lvl 48-50 :D

April 18, 2002 06:57 pm ET (#18)

Elbryan
Loyal Fan
180 posts
01-21-02

Prince gets +1 to tame.. for dogs right? Does that mean princes can have 4 dogs? And elves 3?

April 18, 2002 07:01 pm ET (#19)

Presidouy
Loyal Fan
17 posts
04-11-02

So prince class can tame monsters there? "prince classes get a +1 bonus"

So Princes will be able to use level 5 magic at level 50? that might be crazy enough to work ^^

Presidouy

April 18, 2002 07:05 pm ET (#20)

Yabiku
Loyal Fan
59 posts
04-17-02

I agree with Myshella..if only 2 mops, i will prefer have my 4 BBs, even 3 is already sux, only 2 now o.o; it will be better to have 2 high lvl dobers and use a knight

April 18, 2002 07:07 pm ET (#21)

VenomOfWest
Loyal Fan
36 posts
11-20-01

I like this update. Too bad my account expired last week... Maybe I renew for this Spring Faire thing, or when we get DEX AC.

April 18, 2002 07:08 pm ET (#22)

Amadeus
Loyal Fan
3 posts
04-17-02

I think most people reading this a jumping to a conclusion quickly. Look how summon works now.. max is cha/2 for summons. However on first cast, a mage may get 6+ summons depite the charisma limit. Summon while you have summons/tame and the mage will be restricted by charisma. The true question is: Is the first cast of summon random, or has it become a fixed number?

April 18, 2002 07:12 pm ET (#23)

Amadeus
Loyal Fan
3 posts
04-17-02

sorry...it got double posted :(

April 18, 2002 07:16 pm ET (#24)

Tueur
Loyal Fan
60 posts
04-05-02

I'm glad to see this change. It used to be that dogs were cha/2 as well, so this balances out all the classes (well, princes are screwed because of the lack of brave/wafer/wiz pot/HOM/BOE/Bracer/........).

I get tired of bb mages fireballing whole groups of mops I'm working and then running off, only to have their bb's do all the work for them.

April 18, 2002 07:18 pm ET (#25)

Tweak
Loyal Fan
456 posts
10-21-01

Level 48: Skeleton Guard

wow so ghey!!! u cant heal him and ppl will kill him for drop.....

April 18, 2002 07:18 pm ET (#26)

Whipits
Loyal Fan
93 posts
01-14-02

first off, everyone who is like yay finally those bb mages get what's coming to them, you've obviously never had one. they aren't gods like you believe. true, they make more money, but they don't get to do other things that knights/elves get to do. such as bosses, or hard area hunting. as of now classes are finally almost equal. this new update is TOO much. it's insane to think that a character that is built for magic and obviously not fighting should only have 2 helpers. think about all the 40+ mages at the moment that have worked hard to get where they are now to only get 2 bbs >.< keep in mind everyone is like well the new mops are cool. um, anyone heard of tame. as of now you can tame 4 kbbs if you wanted. or skel guards or freakin ogres for that matter. point is, this update is too extreme. also the +1 bonus to princes is for another dog genius not summon -.- think of how horrible it will be to find out that you've worked all these months/years to get a mage high enough to summon good monsters to help you hunt and now you get 2 >.< it's retarded. this will be the official death of mage on the us servers (and all others possibly) and i would be one of many upset customers.

April 18, 2002 07:37 pm ET (#27)

s1011112
Loyal Fan
75 posts
06-21-02

i wonder if this news item will have an adverse effect on the price of summon on dep o.O

April 18, 2002 07:42 pm ET (#28)

PROKNIGHT
Loyal Fan
40 posts
02-20-02

personaly i think its a good idea to lower the summon rate. There are just to many summon mages in game now. Everywhere u hunt there are tons of bbs running around. The mages dont even fight they jsut ebolt of fb and run let bbs do the work. So i think its a good idea now mages will have to work for what they get and this will force them to lvl past 48.

April 18, 2002 07:53 pm ET (#29)

Pooch
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-10-01

I have a level 46 bb mage, and I hate it. There's nothing more boring than running around ebolting things and letting them die. And BB mages can easily kill all bosses but FV bosses, what's that about? Maybe you don't know how to play mage...I can hunt any hard area with bb mage. As can most other people.

In the old days mages hunted DVC5-6 with DOGS. It's not that hard without precious BBs. And it only takes 2 weeks max to make a 40+ mage with any stats, so seriously, it's not that big of a deal. It may take longer the first time, but the second time you do it, there's very little time consumed.

This just makes it so BB mages won't make as much money...look at the upside kids. Summon book price will fall so everyone can quit whining about that. ;P

And it probably won't cap first summon either. There's a limit now, if this just tweaks tame and max limits on resummon it's a good thing. Another thing that would be amusing is tamed mops being cha/4 and summoned being cha/6...so you'd get rewarded for taming, which is harder. -.-;

April 18, 2002 07:55 pm ET (#30)

Pooch
Loyal Fan
103 posts
10-10-01

I just don't play my mage 'cause it's so bleedin' boring. *fixes the double post* da de da

April 18, 2002 07:56 pm ET (#31)

DarkIntruder
Loyal Fan
51 posts
03-07-02

This sucks!!!!

If this comes to US servers, leave out the CHA/6 thing and put in the mops only...

I 1:1 Tarveruses and Salamanders with BBs in Lava Land... Now I probably won't even be able to go NEAR them....

April 18, 2002 08:07 pm ET (#32)

InToTheFire
Loyal Fan
142 posts
11-27-01

hmm i wish they would just make a cap at 5 bbs that way u dont have to worry bout it

April 18, 2002 08:10 pm ET (#33)

thesimbul
Loyal Fan
39 posts
01-22-02

I think they should take out undead mops altogether with summon and replace it with something else. There are too many griefers out there who just like turning undead mops and annoying people.

I dont like the cha/6 idea at all. Time for me to buy a new computer so I can play a better game where they dont force you to play the way THEY want you to play.

Any suggestions?

April 18, 2002 08:14 pm ET (#34)

Yabiku
Loyal Fan
59 posts
04-17-02

BB mage just dun e-bolt and run
they also have to heal and haste their BBs

April 18, 2002 08:22 pm ET (#35)

Jefff
Loyal Fan
3 posts
12-13-01

5 sucks!!! thats my method of trading between accounts!!! Plese dont come to us!

April 18, 2002 08:27 pm ET (#36)

PROKNIGHT
Loyal Fan
40 posts
02-20-02

guys u have to understand nc is making game better for all. Other classes cant hunt around bb mages b/c the mage jsut ebolt and run let bb kill. And who ever said mages cant kill bosses they usually are the ones camping drakes and ebolt it so that knight cant get it b/c bbs are all around it. I think this is a very good idea and makes game more chanllegeing. People whine about things just b/c they make you have to work a little more now instead of ebolt run let bb kill now mage will actually lvl b/c they are helping to kill the mop now.

April 18, 2002 08:27 pm ET (#37)

SteelEye
Loyal Fan
37 posts
12-10-01

Its not that bad. If you want to reach lvl 50, then you will have to give up levelling with summoned/tamed mops, or it will take you forever. So seen in this context, what difference does it make if you summon 2 or 4 bugbears?
Most people are also forgetting the other updates that were put in, like the new spells and the mana regeneration potion, which will make us stronger. So in the end we will get weaker because we lose summoned/tamed mops, but on the other hand we get stronger because we have more mana and more spells. Good or bad, I'm very interested and eager to give it a try...

Also, the different mops each 4 lvls is cool, it gives mages waypoints to level. I mean, if you level a mage the first time, then you are always looking out for the next level of magic to use, for the next kind of summoned mops you get. But it stopped at lvl 40. Now this changes, we will have smaller goals to reach, and this helps a lot while levelling.

I just feel sorry for those CHA 18 mages out there ... Their other stats suck and now they are stuck with 4 bugbears instead of 9... Even if I will only be able to summon 2, I still will have plenty of hit point, spell power and mana points to compensate the lower summon rate...

April 18, 2002 08:39 pm ET (#38)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

But you also have to remember, this is Korean test, and not all Korean test updates make it to the live servers, and besides that, to USA and other servers world wide.

April 18, 2002 08:42 pm ET (#39)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

hehe i kinda like the idea elfs kinda get screwed when bb mages are all around they get our drops cause we use a bow. Why are you guys complaing so much u see that they ahve asome sort of mana potion that will let u regen mp faster you guys have been asking for it and nnow you get it and now all you guys are doing is complaing. sigh whatever i never use mage anyways cause i suck using them. Well abck to lineage laterz peeps

Ramza1818 Dep

April 18, 2002 08:43 pm ET (#40)

Solnac
Loyal Fan
113 posts
10-25-01

Ok, summoning should be absed on SP. mages aren't going out and asking the nice looking Bb to be there friends, they are creating them as there unquestioned slave. So you should summon 1/like 2 sp.

April 18, 2002 09:10 pm ET (#41)

StormTrooper
Loyal Fan
13 posts
12-11-01

Maybe NC is doing this on purpose to make ppl quit and wait for Lineage2...

April 18, 2002 09:15 pm ET (#42)

AnoxCynOdun
Loyal Fan
16 posts
01-18-02

I have mixed feelings about this.

At first glance the ability to only have 2 summon'd mops at 8CHR is kind of a bad thing, but THEN in the grand scheme of things it might not be so bad. The reason I like having 4 to 8 BBs is to kill large mops in FV, which since I run out of MP in 2 seconds is hard to do without 4 to 8 BBs, and in some cases the BBs are the ONLY way for a Mage to kill these bosses.

BUT IF our mana recharges at a higher rate due to the mana recharge pot, then we can finally play mages the way I would guess mages are intended for play. Right now 95% of the mages use 1 e-bolt and let thier BBs do all the work. OR they do as I do, they get a bow and pluck away at mops in FV, or just walk up and hit then with a staff or sword in other areas, while the BBs kill them, which is a little more "work" than using one e-bolt and running in circles. However, as I have said before, these are both dumb ways for a mage to work in a game. The mage in any game should be able to rely only on magic and nothing else, so with a fast recharge of MP, we might finally be able to play a mage that blasts everything with magic and relies less on our summon'd or tamed mops.

So in the end I think the combination of these changes will make the Mage better and more fun to play (unless the recharge rate is still really really really really really really slow even with the pots)

Cyn
AnoxCynOdun
RatClaws

April 18, 2002 09:46 pm ET (#43)

TERM
Loyal Fan
3 posts
04-18-02

I thought NCI was supposed to make it better for the players. NCI is slowly but surely ruining the game.Many have quit because of new updates.if this update was added many would quit.In real mythology mages were all powerful and could use all kinds of magic.The only way 2 mop would be any good is to summon 2 DK otherwise we should keep summon the way it is.

April 18, 2002 10:25 pm ET (#44)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

hell no man NC is not trying to make the game worse have all of you forgotten that lineage is based on hunting party's. Wich means having other players help you hunt. I know some people are thiefs and greedy but some are not i am a lvl 47 dex elf and i hunt in groups over in dv i spend less moeny on potions i gain exp even though it is slower but the other people around you are also getting the exp. i share my drops i fought a drake 1:1 and had a elf backing me up with heals since iwas low on oranges she even dropped 30 of them so i could keep on taking him on. It was the first time ever that i had so much fun we worked as a team i got a b zel from the drop and split the money with her 250k ^^.
Lineage is a game were team work is most important you do not haveto always go solo.

April 18, 2002 10:33 pm ET (#45)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

umm...... good for str mages who don't depend on summoned

I wonder how fast mana pot heals.....

April 18, 2002 10:50 pm ET (#46)

Wilas
Loyal Fan
6 posts
04-10-02

once you get level 52 around -63 ac +9 or 10 weapon lineage is over..what is the point

April 18, 2002 10:50 pm ET (#47)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

.........i don't want those stupid skeleton guards \./
why would a mage need king burbear by the time he/she is lvl 52 -_-
They should make it 3cha/monster~

April 18, 2002 11:20 pm ET (#48)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

My Mana recovery pot worked instantly refilling my mana. only 10 was missing so i dont know how much it heals. But i dont think it effects you for 10 minutes depending on your wisdom.

April 18, 2002 11:35 pm ET (#49)

ZPsyMageZ
Loyal Fan
110 posts
12-01-01

DAMN!!!! I WANT PLAY KOREAN SERVERS!!!1
GRRRR WHY WE NEVER GOT THOSE NICE UPDATES HERE ><

April 18, 2002 11:40 pm ET (#50)

slasho
Loyal Fan
66 posts
04-04-02

oops did not mean to post plz delete this amer

April 18, 2002 11:42 pm ET (#51)

slasho
Loyal Fan
66 posts
04-04-02

Some people may think this will balence the game better because mages are so powerful with bb but the truth is it does not help balence the game. Just look at most mages they have low hp low str low char low dex but often high mp. If anything this would unbalence game more because people wont want to play as mages anymore. Also without bb a mage is weak especially in dv except for the mages who raised other stats higher than normal helpful mage ones. If NC is smart they will not add this update but of course we dont even know if they even planned to add this so for right now players should just be quiet and see what happens. oh yeah i like the new rules they should surely help good job amer or who ever thought of it.

ooh cool 50th post

April 18, 2002 11:44 pm ET (#52)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

I don't understand why there is "3. Please postin English." Does that mean don't post any "english" words that aren't in the dictionary?

April 19, 2002 12:25 am ET (#53)

SolidSoul
Loyal Fan
47 posts
02-17-02

THIS IS SUCH A GAY UPDATE...

April 19, 2002 12:28 am ET (#54)

SolidSoul
Loyal Fan
47 posts
02-17-02

If this comes to US LIVE servers you can expect I will not be playing any longer. If someone wants to summon scorpions go tame them ... dont take away the best part of the game, BUGBEAR SUMMON MAGES. I've played summon mages my whole time in lineage, since beta and this is the dumbest update I have ever seen. I really do believe they are trying to get us to quit and play Lineage 2 or they are just going to kill themselves as a company. I wont say anymore because it is just on KOREAN TEST but this is just my opinion.

April 19, 2002 12:45 am ET (#55)

dabman
Loyal Fan
244 posts
10-22-01

Guys don't forget about the NEW MANA POTS? You'll have plenty of extra mp to kill monsters yourself, not with some dumb summoned monster! Don't worry about this. I'm sure they will work it out fine. I don't remember any "gay" updates being added, I think NC Korea is making some radical changes which could improve Lineage a lot.

April 19, 2002 01:01 am ET (#56)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

FREAK!!! Thats a bad update... WAHHHHH Summon Skel Guard???? Stupid... can't heal them... Cha/6 ???? RIDICULOUS!!

April 19, 2002 01:16 am ET (#57)

YuGi
Loyal Fan
159 posts
02-19-02

>.<~~scropion is weaker than BBs~

April 19, 2002 01:27 am ET (#58)

Blockbuster
Loyal Fan
6 posts
04-11-02

Lame. Mages can go tame 2 king bb right now. Giving lvl 52 mages king bbs is no reward.

April 19, 2002 01:41 am ET (#59)

Lostheaven
Loyal Fan
185 posts
10-06-01

You can still get 3 to 4 mops with summon , I don't know about high char mages , but 8 char can get 3 to 4 mops still , if this update comes.

April 19, 2002 02:26 am ET (#60)

Blahk
Loyal Fan
234 posts
02-02-02

ummm you can heal spars and skels, so what makes you think you couldn't heal skel guard, also..all u knights are so biased. I think its a bad update.....maybe if mages got +2 instead of +1..it wouldn't be so bad because i'd rather have 3 skele guards that 4 bb's. mana pots are cool and new spells look sweet too. I hope they put in disintegrate and meteor strike and all those other spells because when they do i'm coming back to lineage

April 19, 2002 03:28 am ET (#61)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

"I've played summon mages my whole time in lineage, since beta and this is the dumbest update I have ever seen." From #54..
Maybe you should try other variations of mage that don't depend on summon

April 19, 2002 03:35 am ET (#62)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

yea there is mana pots alright
another liability for mages, it heals about 50 mp
and SEE how much it's gonna be o.o
1k each? 2k each? ~

April 19, 2002 04:06 am ET (#63)

OneSelf
Loyal Fan
13 posts
11-19-01

once again nci shows u that this is a knights game, beef up the knight but nerf everyone else. geez

April 19, 2002 04:20 am ET (#64)

Dlirk
LC Reporter
75 posts
01-06-02

Skel guards undead and small, so now when Knight tries to pk you he can instantly kill your summon after drakes or bosses because most knight have rapier. With BBs they do not take a 1d20 extra damage and only do 1d6 dmg normally.

April 19, 2002 04:42 am ET (#65)

Li
Loyal Fan
62 posts
03-05-02

well...lineage is now a knight's game...
when dex update come...everyone will beef up elf instead of knight..- -"..
-71ac anyone?

April 19, 2002 07:13 am ET (#66)

SteelEye
Loyal Fan
37 posts
12-10-01

Lostheaven, how do you calculate 4 summoned mops for 8 cha?

And all those others complaining: did you ever try to hunt without your bugbears? IT IS MIGHTY FUN, feeling the thrill again of not knowing if you are going to make it or not...

April 19, 2002 08:29 am ET (#67)

Shanea
Loyal Fan
9 posts
10-22-01

This new update sure doesn't make me want to start playing lineage again. NCI is going in the wrong direction.

April 19, 2002 09:57 am ET (#68)

Nitrogun
Loyal Fan
229 posts
03-17-02

LOL those mana pots gonna ruin the game.... my pledge will be able to take out 3x fafuraion in 1 hour i bet.... we are just depending on MP from the mages.... thats all.... so more MP more FAF hunts -----> Economie ruined!!!

April 19, 2002 10:04 am ET (#69)

kwiver
Loyal Fan
106 posts
04-07-02

u guys are so stupid READ u only want to make tons of money by doin nuttin now ur wiz has to do more things and its cry cry bah u get amna pots and stuff so stfu

April 19, 2002 10:50 am ET (#70)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

Hmmm it would be better for mages to get cha/3 and none of that +1/+2 tame bonus.... tho' I like the change in mops based on your lvl - But it'd be better if based on your int ;) make people play pure mages...

Tho' I like the tame +2 bonus for elves, cus I play one - But's hit hard to tame anything better than a werewolf without using all my mp :(

April 19, 2002 10:56 am ET (#71)

phil
Loyal Fan
147 posts
04-05-02

Ok, People, this is on KOREAN SERVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~!!!! Do you know what level US mages will be b4 it acually comes to US servers? IF it does? Pretty high is the right answer and when you are lev 50+ it doesnt matter if you can summon 10 BBs. All you will need is SOF, str spell, PG, and str mage.

BUT who cares because it Korean update, We never get those.

April 19, 2002 11:09 am ET (#72)

Pepper
Loyal Fan
135 posts
02-11-02

Sigh* People whine so much. I mean, every update favours a class and not the other..then u start to hear complaints and approvals...I personally think it's a good thing that they are finally doing something to bb mages. Seriously, if you have played bb mages for all your life here in lineage, you dun know what hardship the other classes are going thru. (Not that i'm saying mage is easy, but heck, it is easy) All the spell books have gone down in price. And..if you say you like your mage just because it makes you money, but isn't that wut lineage is about? Money, Stuffs, Level. Admit that bb mage is having the easiest hunting experience...even if you dun agree to me, I proved it to myself...My mage (the FIRST time i've ever really lvl a mage) will be 45 in less than 3 weeks (Yes, i hunted with bbs cus i want the money too)...so dun tell me mages are hard.

April 19, 2002 11:19 am ET (#73)

IronBlade Dragon
Loyal Fan
135 posts
10-13-01

I am a bb-mage, and I think this change is going to be terrific! Do it now NCI!

April 19, 2002 12:56 pm ET (#74)

DragonBreath
Loyal Fan
10 posts
03-12-02

This suxx...if they have to change the number of summons to change the monsters...then dont change at all!

April 19, 2002 01:30 pm ET (#75)

Tueur
Loyal Fan
60 posts
04-05-02

4 dogs for princes? o.o I can't wait! I have three level 25 dogs right now, and the thought of four auto-hasted dobs has my mouth watering!!!!!!!!!! Now I REALLY hope we get this update!

April 19, 2002 02:00 pm ET (#76)

overkill
Loyal Fan
15 posts
01-24-02

I think a good update for mage @ lvl 52 instead of kbb... 1 drake :)

April 19, 2002 02:01 pm ET (#77)

overkill
Loyal Fan
15 posts
01-24-02

you also have to remember that tame costs 2 gems, and you usually fail the first attempt, so it would cost more gems then a summon... (i still dont know why they made tame 2 gems, so friggin lame, needs to be 1 gem again)

April 19, 2002 03:04 pm ET (#78)

pinewood
Loyal Fan
1 posts
04-19-02

this is great news at last theres something being done to the bb mage esp the ones with 8+ bbs. i'm an elf and i have been playing for 2 months and already the bbmages are a sore. i think this is way to serious to put on the mage they will be so weak. can't we keep the no. mobs summon fixed to 2-4 mops at whatever cha then i think it won't be so bad for mages.

April 19, 2002 05:25 pm ET (#79)

satan
Loyal Fan
32 posts
01-29-02

i hope this update wont come to US...
the (undead) skel at lvl 48 sux, and the cha/6 realla really sux...

April 19, 2002 07:27 pm ET (#80)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

It shouldn't be called "bb mage" anymore. More like "summoning mage" or just "summoner".

April 20, 2002 02:29 am ET (#81)

Lostheaven
Loyal Fan
185 posts
10-06-01

SteelEye if there is randomness in Summon which there should be still after this update you can break that randomness. Its very possible for 8 char mage to get 8 or 9 mops right now.
Just tame a mop , a BB from the Big WL and then summon you get randomness +1, sometimes it doesn't work and you get 3. But often times you get upwards of 6.

April 20, 2002 03:50 am ET (#82)

maffy
Loyal Fan
11 posts
04-13-02

ok ppl,
if you really think mages sux then play another class
elf aint that great and i still play it ^^
and besides, dont we all complain about SOMETHING in every class?
aw man, elf doesnt have much hp and cant get drops cuz they use bow
aw man, knight get so poor cuz they get hit a lot and use potions
aw man, prince gets such low hp and/or str
aw man, mage gets less monster now.
get over it! every class gets it disadvantages!

April 20, 2002 05:49 am ET (#83)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

yeah i agree maffy stop compaling and just enjoy the game as it is ^^.

April 20, 2002 06:40 pm ET (#84)

vinsanity
Loyal Fan
15 posts
04-20-02

I can't belive this update is only in Korean SeverT.T Now all the good UpDates are in Korean sever.T.T

May 23, 2002 03:01 pm ET (#85)

Phyrexian
Loyal Fan
36 posts
05-16-02

Now its time for: PHYREXIA's SPEECH!!! (gotta make it quick, almost 5th period)
Bad bad bad NC. BAD!!! I am a lvl 39 mage, my first one, and i am eager to summon. but it seems your gonna screw me before i even getta try! plse, for the love of all things sacred, don't restrict me to 2 BBs >.< and PLSE don't put scorpions in the game...PLSE!!!! I am really enjoying lineage. (akilae on dep) It is so fun. so please don't ruin this for me. Summon is something that is meant for fun and money. Not so fun with 2 scorps T.T i will PAY you not to publish this update on the U.S. servers. really. i will. (i have 5 mins left ^_^) sure, ppl say BB mages get in their way....that statement is reversable... maybe YOU get in THEIR way O.o Maybe they are tryin to make money, but you keep hangin around em. well, theres the bell, gotta hurry. NC, don't do it.

May 23, 2002 04:04 pm ET (#86)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

Phyrexian:
Level 40 is still Bugbears and Level 44 is Skeleton Guards. They already removed Scorpions.

August 25, 2002 07:18 am ET (#87)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT SCORPIONS!

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