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September 27, 2002 08:18 pm ET - research by NC - Austin
Monster Guide updated
NC updated their monster guide with the new levels of all their monsters, and also some updated stat information. We haven't corrected our monster guide for the new stats (we did do the levels, which you can still see on the New XP page).

So, here is a list of everything that has changed from LC's current guide to the NC guide released today. Now keep in mind some of the changes are OUR mistake, and not actually a change to the monster.

  • Acaleph: AC -1 to 2, HP 135 to 50, MP 0 to 5, align -20 to -8
  • Arachnevil Elder: lawful -20 to -23
  • Aste: MP 0 to 10, align 5 to -28
  • Baphomet: HP 800 to 1600, AC -50 to -65,
  • Beleth: HP 850 to 1700, AC -51 to -56
  • Black Knight: Element none to Earth
  • Blob: align -5 to -15
  • Bugbear: HP 280 to 250, MP 19 to 30, align -23 to -25
  • Cerberus: MP 17 to 60
  • Cockatrice: MP 25 to 250
  • Crustacean: HP 570 to 450, MP 0 to 30,
  • Death Knight: HP 990 to 1900, AC -52 to -67,
  • Demon: HP 800 to 2200, AC -42 to -68, align -100 to -150
  • Drake: AC -33 to -48
  • Elder: MP 400 to 60
  • Elekkadom: HP 450 to 350
  • Ettin: HP 600 to 500
  • Fire Warrior: MP 15 to 20
  • Floating Eye: HP 20 to 40, MP 5 to 30, align -10 to -8,
  • Ghast: MP 17 to 30
  • Ghost (Red): HP 80 to 120, AC -1 to -45
  • Giant Ant Queen: HP 2500 to 3500, AC -30 to -65
  • Hobgoblin: MP 5 to 30
  • Ice Queen: AC -50 to -65
  • Ifrit: HP 700 to 1100,
  • Imp Elder: HP 40 to 100, MP 30 to 50, align -8 to -10, element Earth to none
  • Kobold: MP 45 to 15
  • Lizardman: MP 15 to 10
  • Lycanthrope: MP 16 to 60
  • Merman: align -10 to +5
  • Ogre: align -36 to -34
  • Orc Guard: HP 250 to 150, AC -15 to -3, align -18 to -16
  • Orc Scout: HP 150 to 90, MP 50 to 15, align -16 to -12
  • Owlbear: AC 10 to -6
  • Phoenix: HP 700 to 2100, AC -48 to -63
  • Ratman: MP 0 to 10
  • Shark: HP 135 to 230, AC -1 to -9
  • Silhouette: AC -16 to -18
  • Slime: AC -10 to 10
  • Succubus: HP 200 to 400
  • Troglodyte: align 10 to -10
  • Yeti: element Water to none

We'll update our monster guide within the next 12 hours. ^^

September 27, 2002 08:26 pm ET (#1)
Linny
Loyal Fan

166 posts
05-01-02

cool, good to know when something change, if only they can make that ever times they modify something

September 27, 2002 08:31 pm ET (#2)
questions
Loyal Fan

17 posts
06-19-02

succubus:hp 200 to 400..........
Time to tame her, hehe

September 27, 2002 08:48 pm ET (#3)
chilton
Loyal Fan

28 posts
06-12-02

when were the monsters updated tho? these have been in effect for a while haven't they but NC finally decided to release the info?

September 27, 2002 08:53 pm ET (#4)
WhoKnowsWho
Loyal Fan

3 posts
09-17-02

Damn DVC just got harder :) but nice ettins easier too... this change is so wierd. At least some mops got more MP (I am a mage).

No we see why phoenix been SO hard to kill lately.

September 27, 2002 09:07 pm ET (#5)
smckilla
Loyal Fan

27 posts
03-29-02

Some of those changes suck. Going to be alot harder to kill any of the bosses now. No wonder Demon became unbearable.

September 27, 2002 09:37 pm ET (#6)
Wilhelm
Loyal Fan

88 posts
07-02-02

Those bosses certainly got tougher. Demon is going to take a strong team now and Phoenix and Ant Queen have become like the dragons, almost unkillable except by an army. Drakes will be harder to hit now. Time to get out my mailbreaker against them now.

September 27, 2002 09:55 pm ET (#7)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

Errr, thier guide hasnt been updated in AGES, some of those changes have been present for awhile...

September 27, 2002 10:31 pm ET (#8)
XCollicoX
Loyal Fan

131 posts
04-20-02

WOWA! DK is way harder now. I don't think we should've posted on the boards that beleth was easy...

September 27, 2002 10:53 pm ET (#9)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

bosses r suppose to be HARD.....

I'm pretty sure these stats have been in the game for awhile as well....

September 27, 2002 11:08 pm ET (#10)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

cerberus have always had more than 13 mp :\ (i know because i hunted them to lvl from 40 to 48 ^_^)

September 27, 2002 11:08 pm ET (#11)
DrunkenKnight
Loyal Fan

81 posts
04-25-02

can anyone solo a pheonix, death knight, demon, ant queen now? hmmm...and what about beleth and baphomet are they still soloable?

September 27, 2002 11:09 pm ET (#12)
recamel
Loyal Fan

51 posts
04-12-02

this changes are not in the game now right?
well i hope that they gonna drop alot better now

September 28, 2002 01:41 am ET (#13)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

drunken,I dun think anyone has been able to solo any of the bosses since they made them stronger 4-5 months ago (with the exception of the phoenix )

September 28, 2002 02:08 am ET (#14)
Brute Squad
Loyal Fan

10 posts
07-09-02

I soloed Bapho a few weeks ago. He's a lot tougher than he was before (3 months ago) I used 180 or so condensed clears and a +8 m-b with -56ac and 2 Ring of Earth. Took quite a while. Good luck to others. Also if anyone had definate spawn times for bapho please post them.

BruteSquad

Level 47 Str Knight - Test Server

September 28, 2002 03:26 am ET (#15)
Dying Star
Loyal Fan

1 posts
09-06-02

All bosses have high ac now... that means mail breaker? and mail breaker means less dmg than usual weapons. Also bosses got more hp now. So i think ppl r not going to boss hunt as much now ;(

September 28, 2002 03:28 am ET (#16)
Darkweave
Loyal Fan

20 posts
04-18-02

About time they posted the changes its been like forever....................

It's sad that the game's official web site is so damn slow................

That's why I come here :P

September 28, 2002 04:07 am ET (#17)
TheCollector
Loyal Fan

351 posts
09-07-02

whoever asked how long these changes been in well, wasnt it like sept 3 or whenever ppl noticed lvl differences in mop? if not, i did notice that mermen cost me lawful to kill during event.

September 28, 2002 05:36 am ET (#18)
Whipits
Loyal Fan

93 posts
01-14-02

i know that bosses in games are supposed to be hard and that for a brief period of time we went on a boss killing frenzy but not it's like nc is making it impossible or at least completely not worth it to hunt them. major bosses (dragons, beleth/bapho) were the main guys now are insane to kill. beleth and bapho can be killed but it's a pain and dragons are sitting pretty right now. regular bosses (phoenix, demon, ice queen, ant queen) have become almost impossible to kill at least alone. when phoenix was first released it could be killed alone barely now it's like 20-30 ppl have difficulty killing it. even normal to easy bosses (dk, ifrit, necromancer, caspa and friends among others) those were the best to hunt. all of them were killable alone and gave good drops. not the easiest but definately not the hardest. dk was best killed by mage at one point (member those days?) now somehow dk has become invincible, ifrit is a MAJOR pain in the ass and never comes around, necro like dissapeared and caspa drops suck. is any boss worth the effort and manpower now to kill? all of them require more than one person and once you get 5 or so splitting the drops (if that even happens) isn't worth it. dragon hunts are impossbile and everyone dies, then in the unlikely event that one dies, it's the cheap asses who run around taking drops or get that last hit in who benefit. drakes are the same way, they've always been kinda hard because so many ppl hunted them. now it's worse so i don't even bother. wait 1-2 hours or more for double drake and get nada is a big waste of time. in short, pfffffffffft!

September 28, 2002 06:08 am ET (#19)
Etikilam
Loyal Fan

381 posts
02-12-02

Brute Squad, i was talkin bout main servers, test server doesnt count :P

September 28, 2002 11:28 am ET (#20)
Alexei
Loyal Fan

34 posts
09-11-02

Ifrit never comes around Whipits...just wait till im out of pots and low on HP and he will rear his ugly head
~^

September 28, 2002 12:40 pm ET (#21)
Darkweave
Loyal Fan

20 posts
04-18-02

The some of the critters have been changed for months, at least in the mana point category anyway. I've always gotten tons o mana from Cerebus and floating eyes.............

September 28, 2002 01:24 pm ET (#22)
Na1rbPipeline
Loyal Fan

17 posts
09-23-02

gosh the last time i played bapho was simple,, now its like u need 5 guys to kill it,, so iv'e heard

September 28, 2002 03:29 pm ET (#23)
BlackBow
Loyal Fan

39 posts
06-12-02

Whipits: Ifrit will allways be there on time, you just have to know where to be =P.

Also most of the underwater mops got and mp boost, mages can probably solo there now with a sof/som combo and not use many pots.

September 28, 2002 03:32 pm ET (#24)
ENDU
Loyal Fan

4 posts
09-17-02

SO NOW WE HAVE UPDATE ON MOP POWER CAN WE HAVE THE SAHYAS BOW TO COMPETE?
+6 AND +7 YUMI IS LOSING GROUND EVEN WITH MITH ARROWS!

September 28, 2002 10:27 pm ET (#25)
LineagePRO
Loyal Fan

22 posts
09-28-02

That does mean that exp charts will be updated to right....?~.~

September 29, 2002 12:20 am ET (#26)
Kandy
Loyal Fan

90 posts
10-20-01

(#17)
Merman and Mermaids always used to make you lose lawful points ^^
Perhaps because they are little people? --;

September 29, 2002 01:09 am ET (#27)
DumbPig
Loyal Fan

54 posts
02-28-02

i think that if NC want DK bapho those bosses hard to hunt...instead of making them so unbearable.......couldn't they just give some kind of mop that comes with DK and just make it a group hunt instead of everyone running away from it?

September 29, 2002 10:56 pm ET (#28)
Fangar
LC Reporter

125 posts
06-05-02

I don't know what people are talking about. These changes have been in the game for many months now. If you remember back when Oren came out bosses were strengthed for the 3rd time. As for these mop corrections, they are mostly that corrections. Most have also been in effect for a while now.

NC has finally got off their butts and updated their guide. It has been a long long while since we say any changes there...

Just be happy we have (hopefully) accurate information.

September 30, 2002 12:30 am ET (#29)
Tornado
Loyal Fan

43 posts
09-08-02

wtf r they doing to the boss's its gonna be like a DRAGON now \./

September 30, 2002 03:11 am ET (#30)
ZPsyMageZ
Loyal Fan

110 posts
12-01-01

2200 hp on demon??? --;;;;;;;;;;

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