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September 25, 2002 03:04 am ET - research by amer

Monster XP formula change

A few weeks ago we noted that the September 3 update changed all the monster levels *and* the experience formula. On one hand, AC was factored out of the AC equation. On the other hand, almost every monster got a 2 level bump. If you've noticed more or less experience for the past 3 weeks, then these are the details.

So how does this all balance out? Well, it turns out that all monsters that were level 24 or below ended up giving less experience, while all monsters that were level 25 or higher ended up giving more experience. We summarize on this page:

New Monster Levels and Experience

All our data was collected through lots of hunting, math and monster color information, but we stand behind it confidently. ^^ We have also updated our monster pages to reflect the new info.

We don't have any info on: Kurtz, Necromancer, Baltuzar, Merkyor, Baphomet, Beleth, Death Knight, Ice Queen, Giant Queen Ant or the Dragons. NC said they will update their website with the correct info, but they don't have that information on some of the bosses, so we ask for your help. If you 1:1 any of the above, send us your before level (like 47.1434%) and your after level. If you can't get that level of detail, just the monster color and your level (in screenshot form please) would be greatly appreciated... and don't worry about the dragons. It's not like we hunt them for XP ^^

September 25, 2002 03:05 am ET (#1)

FrozenSoul
Loyal Fan
119 posts
10-14-01

well.. ill be gone for this o.o;

September 25, 2002 03:06 am ET (#2)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

It's been on our servers for 3+ weeks - you've already experienced it. :)

September 25, 2002 03:18 am ET (#3)

MISFIT
Loyal Fan
72 posts
05-05-02

amer...the sentance in 2nd para makes no sence

September 25, 2002 03:27 am ET (#4)

Teapot
Loyal Fan
34 posts
09-12-02

yeh lol "So how does this all balance out? Well, it turns out that all monsters that were level 25 or below ended up giving less experience, while all monsters that were level 25 or below ended up giving more experience." =)

September 25, 2002 03:28 am ET (#5)

Blahk
Loyal Fan
234 posts
02-02-02

must have been a long day

September 25, 2002 03:32 am ET (#6)

Mavelant
Loyal Fan
3 posts
09-08-02

When I successfully 1:1 fafurion, I'll send you the before and after exp :P

September 25, 2002 03:43 am ET (#7)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

yeah yeah, bunch a jokers.

September 25, 2002 08:13 am ET (#8)

Blanka
Loyal Fan
26 posts
09-18-02

is this like nc making monsters stronger cause we are now? so we play longer, bleh!

September 25, 2002 08:21 am ET (#9)

-Orim-
Loyal Fan
99 posts
09-15-02

thats stupid.. drop rates dropping.. now exp dropping... harder for newbs

September 25, 2002 09:06 am ET (#10)

Beavis
Loyal Fan
127 posts
03-31-02

id like to know how many ppl are actually starting to play every month or so. I really wonder....

September 25, 2002 10:25 am ET (#11)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

i think the xp change is to make the high lvs happy since most of them hunt lv 20+ mops

tho..it'll nerf the newbs...

i dont think more than 50 ppl (per server, except test) start to play every month

September 25, 2002 10:37 am ET (#12)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

No... it makes high level knights happy.
Now mlc 6-7 is trash for high lvl mages and princess because of their bad base ac and weps AND the ac nerf.

September 25, 2002 11:57 am ET (#13)

RTB
Loyal Fan
2 posts
04-30-02

It looks bad to me, it seems that overall we lost xp, the lower mops give alot less and the higher level mops just give a token amount more.

September 25, 2002 12:36 pm ET (#14)

Taera
LC Reporter
333 posts
01-30-02

RTB, they take our pie and give us half a cookie :)

September 25, 2002 01:38 pm ET (#15)

Dekster
Loyal Fan
23 posts
05-31-02

Other than DV/DVC and FV, all areas seem to have had a major decrease in exp. As an elf, DV/DVC are off limits (at least for solo hunts). The slight increase in exp for the higher lvl mops are no where near the decrease for the lower lvls.
NC got thier exp nerf, they stuck it to us good. They just made so complicated we couldn't immediately tell whether or not to complain about it. NC says "mission accomplished".

And what really upsets me is that for days upon days on the official Lineage boards, there were statements from NC staff denying any change took place and those that turned out to be half truths and stall tactics. They just kept asking for proof/examples that something changed.

This was very similar to me asking my 3 year old daughter if she hit her brother, she says "no, I didn't hit him", and it turns out she wasn't really lieing because she kicked him instead. Half truths all we get are half truths!!! It's good to know we have a bunch of 3 year olds running this game.

September 25, 2002 03:54 pm ET (#16)

Blanka
Loyal Fan
26 posts
09-18-02

no teara, more like they took our pie and gave us back the pastry

September 25, 2002 05:35 pm ET (#17)

Orcide
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-05-01

lol u forgot one on the new XP table... Phoenix (-100%) when fighting it :P

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