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September 11, 2002 06:15 pm ET - research by Kaerid, Ruben, amer

Experience Formula revealed.

[updated]
Before the September 2 publish, our experience formula looked like this:


L = Level
A = AC
XP = L * L + 1
if monster's level was 9+, then +50 XP
if AC was less than or equal to 0, then +7-A
if AC was less than or equal to -2, then another +7-A

So Lycanthrope which was level 16, AC -4 would be:
XP = 16 * (16+1) = 272
+50 for being level 9+
+11 for being AC<=0
+11 for being AX<=-2
for a total of 329

Through a long board post where Ruben, Kaerid, and I were working with Melantus to figure out what is going on, we came to the conclusion that the XP formula is now simply:


XP = (L * L) + 1

This matches all the Lineage Playforum data perfectly. The XP reduction we are seeing is that the AC does not contribute to the XP any more. Initially, we had another set of formulas, but it turns out that NC has increased the level of many monsters, while not changing their strength, which led us on a wild goose chase. That's good news (more levels, same strength = more XP!). However, the removal of AC as a factor is kind of a bummer.

We have already updated the monster guides with the new formula. We are also waiting for NC to announce the level changes they have made, so once they publish that, we will update the monster's levels too.

I am working on a "New XP" summary page with all the old levels, new levels, old XP, new XP and % change so we can get the big picture of changes. Click on the link above to see it.

September 11, 2002 06:17 pm ET (#1)

killah
Loyal Fan
77 posts
09-08-02

wow...cool...math in lineage o.o FIRST POST

September 11, 2002 06:18 pm ET (#2)

killah
Loyal Fan
77 posts
09-08-02

i hate u peachy

September 11, 2002 06:21 pm ET (#3)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

em..can u make the formula fonts bigger?..
it's kinda small for my eyes - -:...

September 11, 2002 06:23 pm ET (#4)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

yeah it is but damn math wiz are scary..you guys know alot....imago hide in my corner now =\

September 11, 2002 06:23 pm ET (#5)

killah
Loyal Fan
77 posts
09-08-02

yeah i dont even understand them...:P

September 11, 2002 06:28 pm ET (#6)

cristha02
Loyal Fan
141 posts
03-31-02

I hate maths :P hehe but good job guys finding this out

September 11, 2002 06:35 pm ET (#8)

bash023
Loyal Fan
5 posts
09-06-02

MY MATH

(+7 Yummi) + (MOPS) = Drops

lol

September 11, 2002 06:42 pm ET (#9)

xLondonBroilx
Loyal Fan
200 posts
10-02-01

Kaerid, in the third line you have
XP = L * L + 1

then later for the lycanthrope example you have
XP = 16 * (16 + 1) = 272

You have to change one of them around (because of the order of operation). Either the first one should be
XP = L * (L+1)

or the second should be
XP = (16 * 16) + 1 = 257

September 11, 2002 06:42 pm ET (#10)

Kaerid
LC Reporter
46 posts
09-06-02

rotfl - i like your math bash!!!!

September 11, 2002 06:44 pm ET (#11)

Kaerid
LC Reporter
46 posts
09-06-02

amer needs to change that it should be (16 * 16) + 1 = 257
the first one could be written as (L^2) + 1 or (L * L) + 1, but it is right without parens because order of operations is correct.

September 11, 2002 06:49 pm ET (#12)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

arrr..... math in a game......
i hate it -.-;
my simple mind can't funtion with those calculation
soo.... just go attack and kill ^_^:
as long as it's a strong monster
it's exp must be okay~

September 11, 2002 06:54 pm ET (#13)

Myshella
Loyal Fan
77 posts
03-04-02

thats good or baD? XD

September 11, 2002 06:56 pm ET (#14)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

i love math. but heavy mathmaticians (terrible spelling probably) can be very paranoid, especially if they are big into statistics and probabilities, like "in the world, a person dies on average every 'n' seconds" and they spend the rest of their lives counting... 1,2,3...'n' YAY it wasnt me this time! 1,2,3...'n'...... ^^

September 11, 2002 07:11 pm ET (#15)

Blaatje
Loyal Fan
89 posts
10-26-01

well amer i can tell you for sure
drakes have lvled a lil they are lvl 48 now
ya thats right lvl 48:) tested with lvl 47 elf 49 knight and a lvl 50 knight
they are blue to the first elf and the knight and are green to the lvl 50 knight since its 2 lvls higher then mop = green it means our drakes hurt so much more becuass nc made them lvl 3 times :(
no more 1:1 a drake with reds

September 11, 2002 07:15 pm ET (#16)

ruben
Loyal Fan
355 posts
10-07-01

1,2,3... *arg* damn, it was me :\

off topic: NC will NOT reveal the deathmatch score formula :(

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Customer (Rub�n Gonz�lez) 09/11/2002 11:34 AM
"2. The score # is based upon how active a participant is while in the arena."
is there any formula? (if a player kills 100 goblins will he get a better score than someone who kills 99 taurverus?)

Response (Chrissy) 09/11/2002 03:17 PM
I'm sorry, but this is not something that we can elaborate on with any further detail.
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on topic again: how did the "if AC was less than or equal to 0, then +7-A" work?
+7 - 27 = -20 exp? or -7 + 27 = +20 exp? (cerberus example)

September 11, 2002 07:21 pm ET (#17)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

Well, for cerberus it is 7 - AC = 7 - -20 = 7 + 20 = +27

September 11, 2002 07:50 pm ET (#18)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

Stop it please!!!! i dont go to school anymore i thought i was done with all of the math classes!!!! ahh my brain hurts ima go read a book now So there =P

September 11, 2002 08:55 pm ET (#19)

Etikilam
Loyal Fan
381 posts
02-12-02

See, your math teacher told ya it had every day uses o_O

September 11, 2002 09:42 pm ET (#20)

Meral
Loyal Fan
33 posts
09-11-02

oh my god help me its math

September 11, 2002 10:28 pm ET (#21)

Underlord
Loyal Fan
78 posts
12-03-01

it's some sort of nerf of the exp :-)
only for the monsters that got 2 3 lvls added , for those you get more exp :-)

to ruben #18:
dm score : nc is lazy and all so best guess is the real exp you gain in dm in pure points(not%) but the real points you gain in there that's your score ^^

September 12, 2002 01:52 am ET (#22)

Vail
Loyal Fan
260 posts
02-27-02

Amer, how come you don't make Ruben a Member of LC staff?

When I posted about the monsters, I was alot more intrested in the drop frequencies in general...Can't really go wrong with the Level and Exp, etc.
For example, Silhouette still has Old Belt of Soul as a purple, whcih is no frequency. I'm assuming it's actually Red, since no matter how many I kill, I never get one.

September 12, 2002 02:57 am ET (#23)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

Sigh same here vail perhaps both of our luck really suxs =[

September 12, 2002 03:53 am ET (#24)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

Vail: Ruben has never shown any interest in being part of LC. As for the drop frequencies, that information isn't just sitting at our feet. We have to collect it - I'm not sure what you're asking.. I said we are working on it, and that it takes time. Are you just saying that we're not doing it fast enough for you?

Meaningless posts will be deleted. You don't have to post on *every* article. ^^

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